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O2 ROM Update!!

Hey guys. Just got a PDF that says 28 February 2005 XDAIIs Upgrade INstructions. & release notes.
ROM version 1.31.139
Radio version 1.06
Think we get it on CD on the 28th!! Can't wait. hopefully fix a few bugs!!

Can I ask where you got the PDF?
Also, do you know how its going to be despatched?
Cheers

Blackberry
Does the XDAIIs upgrade include a Blackberry client?

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Just thingking you might want to share that pdf file with us. Upload it, please......

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Hi
Aye, ditto on the upload request please!! Not seen anything on O2's website, my xda or sourceo2. I sure hope they intend to make it available as a download on the same date rather than keep non corporate users waiting.
Nigel

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Hi
I assume that they mean the help+faq section and theres nought in there currently. Cant find anything on source o2 either. The XDAIIs launch rom has been in the wrong place on sourceo2 for over 2 months !!!! (they uploaded the wrong rom at first - XDAII launch rom - and hosed loads of peoples IIs machines)
Silly buggers
Nigel

According to Tekguru it is not out until March 1st but will be in production units from next week

Hmmm.. Wonder why the radio version is 1.06 but not 1.06.02

I Got my IIs last week and it come shipped with this rom already
didnt think to check it, been messin with it that much lol

here is the updated bluetoth patch for all to share, sorted out my probs with bt200 headset

Bit disappointing that the BT build is still 3500, they sent that to us bout a month ago & it fixed next to nothing.
We've even made them pay for a couple of car kits to be replaced when the "compatible bt products" list proved to be garbage.
The most annoying thing for me is still the mic level/quality with the phone, this is obviously software related as it works ok with voice recording, skype & even works better wen on speakerphone. Any sign of this improving?

iggywig said:
ok here it is.. Not sure of the legality but what the hey...
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tried to download the pdf file (Xda_IIs_131139_upgrade.pdf), but nothing happen. how can i download this file?

Evening ladies and gents!
Right, I'm this close to buying a 2s, but what is the liklihood of it ever geeting Blackberry connect?
I'm stunned by the short sightedness of o2 in this respect. It is the perfect device to use as a BB replacement, but the put the client on the xda II instead?
Smartner/xmail whatever just aren't viable alternatives I'm afraid, and I suspect that this will be the case for many people.
Cheers

Looks like O2 now have the thing on their upgrade web site. And two days early as well! Go grab it all from here.

No mention of Blackberry though. Only major update is for bluetooth.

True, but given the crappy quality of my HS850's connection I am hopping this will be the biz for my use, at least.

Strange Rom used in Singapore
My Singapore IIs has the below rom. Does anyone know why the ExtROM Version of my current rom is "newer" then the lastest update from O2? Is there is huge difference between Radio Ver. 1.02 and 1.06? Thank you so much if anyone is know enought to help.
ROM Ver:1.31.00WWE
ROM DATE:12/13/04
Radio Version:1.02.00
Protocol Version:1337.32
ExtROM Version:1.31.920WWE

Hmmm, I tried applying the update. Now the O2 Icon is over in the right of the screen and I cannot pull down the list of connections when I tap on it. Anyone know of a way to move it back to the old position?

My XDA iis nearly went out the freakin window! Or NO AUDIO !

Aghhhhh,
I nearly turned my xda iis in to a bloody frisbe and launched it from
a high window today!
This thing is about as much use as a brick! Especially when you answer the phone and start shouting hello, hello - only to have to hang up and do a bloody soft reset of the phone.
This usuallly happens about 4 times a week to me, it can happen on outgoing calls too! The user at the other end reports they can only just hear me but I hear nothing.
I called 02 but of course they have never heard about this problem! Said I would have to take it in to a o2 shop for repair, repair! I'd like to see
them repair it!
After 3 repair attempts I am eligable for a new phone they said?
Anyway, has anybody found a fix for this. I'm running with all the 02 crap disabled, corporate user I think I chose when I reset it.
ROM 1.31.00 WWE
Radio 1.06.00
protocol 1337.38
ExtROM 1.31.139.WWE
When I got this phone I thought the wi-fi would be useful but the received signal level is a joke!
Please help!
thanks
D

XDA 2s Corp User Mode
I am running the same version of the software as you, in corp user mode. Have a few freeze up issues similar to what you describe, but not asw bad by the sound of it.. When you reset and chose corporate user mode, did you enter a 4 digit code..? If not, it probaly did not install corp user mode properly. Can you remember entering the code? Also, do you have any Today Plugins running?? Pocket Plus and Battery bar are particulary problematical. Keep you today screen plugins to a minimum I am running with just phoneAlarm and Alarm today form PocketMax, which appear pretty stable and really improve the alarm and notification functions a lot.
Aside form this ROM in Corp User Mode,You have 3 basic options using the resources on the wiki-xdadevelopers site
1. Upgrade the Radio and Bluetooth stack to later versions Rad 1.10 and BT 3900
2. Upgrade the ROM to 1.40
3. Cook a new extended ROM
All of the above require that you do a good bit of reading in the wiki site before starting and some bravery
As for me, I am going to continue with the O2 ROM in corp mode for now, o2 should have a ROM update out soon, which will hopefully be more stable
Hop this helps
Regards
Chris

XDA 2s Corp User Mode
I am running the same version of the software as you, in corp user mode. Have a few freeze up issues similar to what you describe, but not asw bad by the sound of it.. When you reset and chose corporate user mode, did you enter a 4 digit code..? If not, it probaly did not install corp user mode properly. Can you remember entering the code? Also, do you have any Today Plugins running?? Pocket Plus and Battery bar are particulary problematical. Keep you today screen plugins to a minimum I am running with just phoneAlarm and Alarm today form PocketMax, which appear pretty stable and really improve the alarm and notification functions a lot.
Aside form this ROM in Corp User Mode,You have 3 basic options using the resources on the wiki-xdadevelopers site
1. Upgrade the Radio and Bluetooth stack to later versions Rad 1.10 and BT 3900
2. Upgrade the ROM to 1.40
3. Cook a new extended ROM
All of the above require that you do a good bit of reading in the wiki site before starting and some bravery
As for me, I am going to continue with the O2 ROM in corp mode for now, o2 should have a ROM update out soon, which will hopefully be more stable
Hop this helps
Regards
Chris

i used to have the same problem when i was using the same version on my sx66. ever since i upgraded to 1.40.00 wwe (with radio 1.12.00) the problem never came back.
so i guess this porblem has something to do with the radio version ... try upgrading the radio.

Re: XDA 2s Corp User Mode
cbrow51 said:
I am running the same version of the software as you, in corp user mode. Have a few freeze up issues similar to what you describe, but not asw bad by the sound of it.. When you reset and chose corporate user mode, did you enter a 4 digit code..? If not, it probaly did not install corp user mode properly. Can you remember entering the code? Also, do you have any Today Plugins running?? Pocket Plus and Battery bar are particulary problematical. Keep you today screen plugins to a minimum I am running with just phoneAlarm and Alarm today form PocketMax, which appear pretty stable and really improve the alarm and notification functions a lot.
Aside form this ROM in Corp User Mode,You have 3 basic options using the resources on the wiki-xdadevelopers site
1. Upgrade the Radio and Bluetooth stack to later versions Rad 1.10 and BT 3900
2. Upgrade the ROM to 1.40
3. Cook a new extended ROM
All of the above require that you do a good bit of reading in the wiki site before starting and some bravery
As for me, I am going to continue with the O2 ROM in corp mode for now, o2 should have a ROM update out soon, which will hopefully be more stable
Hop this helps
Regards
Chris
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Hi Chris,
thanks for reply.
Yes I'm pretty sure I entered 4 digit code, I've non of the silly 02 add on
stuff which I had before, and it does not lock up totally like it used to.
However I still get the no audio problem, which is baaaad.
Can I safely upgrade to 1.40 as you mention? Where can I find details of this procedure to read?
thanks
D

Upgrading To 1.40
Hi Dirky
Here is the link to wiki
 wiki.xda-developers.com
upgrading this way is not as straight forward as a regular ROM upgrade though... you have to pick the components (ROM, Radio Stack, Bluetooth Stack etc),you need and the run some procs to get relevant device info on operator and country codes off your device... Read the 'Getting Started' section and 'blue angel for beginners' many have done it, but its not simple if you have not done it before... instructions are good and forum help is always there.. personally I have not got frustrated enough to attempt it, although I have come close a couple of times Start with the Radio upgrade alone. that may fix it for you.
Best of Luck
Regards
Chris

Orange UK Only - What's Best Radio with WM6?

Could I please be so greedy as to have a Orange-UK only thread?
I am been reading and searching in earnest to see what other peoples experiences are with the various Radio ROMs. It seems most people are happy with 1.38.00.10, although seems to be a few instances of people sticking with older versions because of battery life/drop outs/data freezes. But I am unable to establish what other people are experiencing in the UK on Orange's network.
I am well familiar with the Radio ROM 1.38 + WM6 - good or bad? thread, but not many people in there commenting on Orange UK.
If you are on Orange UK, please can you share you experiences here?
My own experience has been thus.
Before upgrading to WM6, was on stock M3100, which had Radio 1.06 I beleive. This worked flawlessy with push email (Exch 2003), and never had any problems at all with it. This was also the case when I upgraded to LVSW 20070315, leaving Radio Rom as was.
Then I upgraded to Black 2.0 last week, and did the Radio to 1.34 with it. I didnt notice any problems at first, or rather didnt take much notice of not getting email notifications whilst at work. But on Friday I realised the Data connections were freezing.
I have tried going to 1.38.00.10, to 1.35, back to 1.06, even 1.27. Have also tried going back to LVSW 20070315, and am now on LVSW 20070408
I have narrowed it all down to the "common" problem in swicthing between GSM and 3G. At home I seem to be between 3 transmitters, and swicthing is common. Hence the problems I was having Friday.
The Excellent commmgrpro has helped here. Also Bandswitch.
Anyway, with Phone set to GSM only I have no problems. Odd thing is, driving to Sheffield and back yesterday (dont mention the football!!), with phoen set to Auto, I had no problems at all.
Yet at home, and at work, on auto the data connection freezes.
So.... Whats everyone else using on Orange?

i've been using rom 3.23.0.2 with radio 1.38.00.10 on a spv m3100. this device is been freezing like you described in your post, thing is, it's become unuseable since you have to reboot after the freeze and it happens almost continiously... driving me insane.
if anyone knows of a way how to get back wm5, i'd appreciate it!
freben

When I upgraded a while ago I was wondering the same thing. The only negatives re 1.38 at the time seemed to come from orange UK customers so I went for the 1.27 radio and it seems fine.
Have not yet stepped up further, and at the moment, see no reason to.
Especially as I can even get the H now and then. (If it aint broke...)

@Phil, I've "gone black" (v 2.0) with Radio 1.38.00.10 - only since Saturday, so it may be too early to tell. I've got a push email account with Mail2Web, which I don't tend to use that regularly - it's good for aggregating lots of mail stuff when I go away on business, but my data package ain't up to much (don't get me started ) so I only switch it on when required.
Since installing the new ROM/Radio/SPL, my M3100 seems to be much better than it was prior to the update. I've reinstalled all my apps (apart from PPCProfilesPRO - I'll do that tonight) and the phone seems really stable - no more random lockups when taking it off charge and only a couple of "slowdowns" when ending calls, or if Activesync'ing....can't really complain if I'm honest
I'll keep an eye on things - and maybe switch on the Exchange push email for a couple of days - and I'll post again if the situation changes.
Cheers,
Mark.
PS - Message for @freben; read MrVanx's guide on downgrading to WM5 - see THIS POST for details of how to find it.

MrVanx kindly provides a guide here: http://www.mrvanx.myzen.co.uk/hermes_guide/Downgrade/
Do please read very carefully before trying it

Yep...1.27 for me. No real radio problems to report.
Spent a couple of weeks with WMXL 2.0 and the last two weeks with Black 2.0. Both work fine with Orange with 3g (inc HSDPA) and voice. Direct push/web/pop email all fine.
One freeze this morning (first one in two weeks) but dont know if it was radio or os or an app?
Can;t compare with other radios but simply can say am happy with 1.27 (hence why I havent tried 1.38 etc)

Having no problems with set up in sig.
had the freezing with the stock set up.
Could/should we be more scientific here and use one of the many web2.0 survey sites to do a ROM/OS survey to find the right mix?
with a little effort we could then find the most reliable Radio ROM and view by Country/OS/carrier/etc.
just a suggestion..

Mark Crouch said:
but my data package ain't up to much (don't get me started ) so I only switch it on when required.
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@Mark,
try Orange World Browsing, 8ukp for unlimited data access 24/7
Give O a call on 150 and then the billing option, 4
Orange World Browsing is what is what the O rep told me it was listed as. I think one of the key points is the cost, it’s 6.81 exc VAT or 8 inc VAT, that’s the way to check you have the right package.
And you need to be on a 35ukp per month tarif or more to get it.
apologies for off topic post!!

(I was told it was Orange World Unlimited)

unwired4 said:
(I was told it was Orange World Unlimited)
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My bill confirms it as Orange World Browsing -although I too thought it was OWU.
Not sure if it is still so hard to get as it once was.

Sheep_Head - Well, I am definetely up for using a survey site - any recommendations?
I gave re-flashed my phone back to Black 2.0. Seems to be what most people are using here (IMHO). Have tried Radio 1.27, 1.38.00, and right back to 1.07.
With a totally clean device (i.e. straight after flashing), setting up the orangeinternet connection manually, the thing just wont connect to 3G. Only when I have Band set to GSM will it connect.
Jeez!
I am now in the process of going back to an Orange WM5 rom, to see if it makes any difference, (albeit the Romanian one, so will have to reset the internet connection).
Getting mildly frustrated now.

OK, I'm now back to Orange Radio version, and Orange WM5 -(Romanian!)
Entered Orange Internet settings. And have gained nothing. COnnects via GSM, but not via 3G.
Grrrrrr....
Spoke to Orange CS - no reported 3G problems in my area (well, what about me???).
What's the panel's opinion on sending a phone back to O with OliPro's bootloader on it? (well, and the Romanian Rom, but they prob wouldnt spot that).
I have insurance etc, so would get a replacement in advance....

philg2000 said:
OK, I'm now back to Orange Radio version, and Orange WM5 -(Romanian!)
Entered Orange Internet settings. And have gained nothing. COnnects via GSM, but not via 3G.
Grrrrrr....
Spoke to Orange CS - no reported 3G problems in my area (well, what about me???).
What's the panel's opinion on sending a phone back to O with OliPro's bootloader on it? (well, and the Romanian Rom, but they prob wouldnt spot that).
I have insurance etc, so would get a replacement in advance....
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dude as a last ditch attempt can you try out flashing LVSWs latest ROM?? Make sure your settings are good and post the results?? (it wont take long)

Hey guys - mega useful thread.
I 'thought' I had solved all of my woes and was feeling bloody smug with myself as I thought I had managed to keep the stupid questions down to a minimum. After reading this obviously not .
I am running Black v2.0 (happily) and the rest of the handset is as per my sig block but I have removed spb pocketbooks and replaced it with shell. I thought it was all working correctly but I am suffering the same connectivity issues as yourself (gprs and not 3G).
Also - and I have read the threads but still not working (was going to try again after a re-re-re build I still have no VM notifications.
Anything I can help with or test let me know and I will do what I can.
Bezman.

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Also - and I have read the threads but still not working (was going to try again after a re-re-re build I still have no VM notifications.
Bezman.
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I have just tested the voicemail fix again since my reinstall and the certificates cab plus installing the sms dll has always worked for me.
Are you having any specific issues with it?

CrazyC,
I am struggling with the whole copying over of the .dll file in the widows directory. Like I said I have done a search of the wiki on VM notifications etc and followed the directions. I have attempted using Activesync but keep getting a response saying that the destination is in use. I have tried directly on the handset (not expecting it to work) and it doesn't and finally I tried by using Total Commander. Still no joy. I will keep going with it though as I was thinking about building again from fresh anyways, and then attempting the vm notification from clean.
Gonna wait out for black v2.5 before I do that however.
Cheers for getting back to me though!
Bezman.

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dude as a last ditch attempt can you try out flashing LVSWs latest ROM?? Make sure your settings are good and post the results?? (it wont take long)
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Hmmm... I dont think that will achieve anything. I have had the latest LVSW ROM on there a while bad, with the same problem.
I'd really like to hear from anyone who has returned a flashed M3100 to Orange.

wberesford said:
CrazyC,
I am struggling with the whole copying over of the .dll file in the widows directory. Like I said I have done a search of the wiki on VM notifications etc and followed the directions.
Bezman.
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The only way I have done this recently is using Resco File Explorer. You need to go into the Options menu to ensure you can see all files, then copy the sms_providers.dll into the \Windows directory. It warns you, but if you say yes it lets it happen. I have done this numerous times (have flashed my phone about 10 times recently!) without any problems!

wberesford said:
CrazyC,
I am struggling with the whole copying over of the .dll file in the widows directory. Like I said I have done a search of the wiki on VM notifications etc and followed the directions. I have attempted using Activesync but keep getting a response saying that the destination is in use. I have tried directly on the handset (not expecting it to work) and it doesn't and finally I tried by using Total Commander. Still no joy. I will keep going with it though as I was thinking about building again from fresh anyways, and then attempting the vm notification from clean.
Gonna wait out for black v2.5 before I do that however.
Cheers for getting back to me though!
Bezman.
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First few times I did this, it just copied OK with the file explorer. Most recently tho it gave me the same error - so I went to the zip file on my ppc and told it to extract directly to the windows folder, said yes to overwrite and it did. Maybe worth a try. (install the certs first incase it makes a difference.)

SMS Providers CAB
To make my life easier I put the sms_providers.dll from WM5 into a CAB. To install make sure you've installed the sdk certificates (http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=35814&d=1174572298) first and then install this cab - a soft reset is requested at the end of installation and is required.
I've tested this on the latest LVSW ROM and it works perfectly, hopefully will overcome peoples issues with copying this file.

No phone service and Radio Roms

hi all I've just updated my O2 xda exec using the WWE MW6.1 19174 build DarkForce rom release: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=365335
Intially the update didn't take, so i had to use the mtty utility to enable me to re do the update, I attempted it again and this time it worked fine.
The problem I now face is that I can connect via wireless, bluetooth etc and it is very quick, but I can't seem to get any service signal! on the screen it comes up with 3G and then it looks for O2 service but it can't find it. I've set everything to UK and set the time and date correctly, phone service wise everything is on auto, although I have tried it manually.
I have the 1.15.00 radio rom and wondered if this may be the problem; to be honest I'm not really sure what the radio rom does. Would this have any effect on my phone service signal and would updating to a more recent version help, if so where can they be downloaded?
I also have a Nokia N73 and the O2 sim works fine in that, so I know the sim is ok.
regards Lee

darkan9el said:
hi all I've just updated my O2 xda exec using the WWE MW6.1 19174 build DarkForce rom release: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=365335
Intially the update didn't take, so i had to use the mtty utility to enable me to re do the update, I attempted it again and this time it worked fine.
The problem I now face is that I can connect via wireless, bluetooth etc and it is very quick, but I can't seem to get any service signal! on the screen it comes up with 3G and then it looks for O2 service but it can't find it. I've set everything to UK and set the time and date correctly, phone service wise everything is on auto, although I have tried it manually.
I have the 1.15.00 radio rom and wondered if this may be the problem; to be honest I'm not really sure what the radio rom does. Would this have any effect on my phone service signal and would updating to a more recent version help, if so where can they be downloaded?
I also have a Nokia N73 and the O2 sim works fine in that, so I know the sim is ok.
regards Lee
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Same here... any sugestions?
thanks

Hi I contacted O2 yesterday afternoon and asked if my xda exec had been blocked? apparently O2 had blocked the imei number, and was supposed to have unblocked it!
I think i need to explain why...
Once upon a time... I went shopping to asda and stupidly left my xda at the checkout, the next person along had their shopping packed because they were on crutches, the packer assumed the xda was hers so they also packed my xda in with the girls shopping. 3 minutes later I came in feeling sick because i'd lost my xda, only to be told no-one had seen it. I cursed the thief and I resigned myself to having lost it. I thought quickly and realised I was near enough to have an upgrade so i contacted O2 and got an N73, phew! that was close. Approx 2 days later I received a phone call on my home phone; the lady who had my phone packed in her shopping had found it after unpacking but had to wait to unpack the shopping as she was having a kitchen fitted - I could have kissed her, it restored my faith in people. In between all that I told O2 to block the phone because as far as I was concerned some git had stolen it. After getting it back I asked them to unblock it which they said they had done. but again in the meantime i had gotten used to the N73 and the xda had just been put to one side.
After the N73 novelty had worn off I went to my xda and upgraded it and put my sim in and that's where the story begins...

change radio rom.
I have a jasjar 1.13 radio with working all wm5 but not working with all wm6. I can no find 1.15 in ftp, wiki or smw else. 1.18 radio working with wm6.
Try and find a working radio rom.

My tytn freezes and does not read the sim

hello,
i've a big problem on my TYTN, when i turn on my phone,
it crash, After a few seconds, and it don't read my new SIM...
i've update my OS at the WM6, it can create some problems?
Can you help me???

sure, no problem, but you could help yourself first by being a little bit more specific, what rom, radio, etc

yes, shure
the ROM version is :3.54.258.2
DATA ROM:7/6/7
EXTROM: 3.54.258.102
I do not know the radio version, because here is no written information in the device, where i found it????
tnx

i'm gonna suggest the simplest thing first, try putting a different sim in and see if it works, and try putting ur sim into a different phone too

I've just put an other sim in to my Tytn but it don't work...
but if i put my sim in a other phone, the sim work...

Your radio version will be in 'Device Information' in settings, but more important than what version it is would be have you changed the radio at all?
I have the same problem on 1 of my 2 Hermes and I'm going to retire it from using the radio at all and take the sim out and just call it a PDA.
I think it's happened (in my case anyway) because because I upgraded my radio into the 1.54.xx.xx series and from there it's never been the same. Downgraded to the last radio Orange gave out which is 1.30.00.01. Not helped much but the damage is done I thnk.
In other threads, people who know more about the internal workings of a Hermes have theorised that for some people those 1.54.xx.xx radio versions may actually damage your radio and flashing back to a prev version may not help - or at least not repair it (may at least stop further worsening). In my case this is exactly how it's panned out. Occasionally I get a couple of days of good use from it but then (usually it sems when I need to call someone in a hurry) it either gives me 'operation failed' for the call or the sim status becomes unknown and no radio at all is possible until SR, sometimes HR.
The other Hermes never had radio upgrades, just OS, and that's how it's staying.

chunkymonkey said:
Your radio version will be in 'Device Information' in settings, but more important than what version it is would be have you changed the radio at all?
I have the same problem on 1 of my 2 Hermes and I'm going to retire it from using the radio at all and take the sim out and just call it a PDA.
I think it's happened (in my case anyway) because because I upgraded my radio into the 1.54.xx.xx series and from there it's never been the same. Downgraded to the last radio Orange gave out which is 1.30.00.01. Not helped much but the damage is done I thnk.
In other threads, people who know more about the internal workings of a Hermes have theorised that for some people those 1.54.xx.xx radio versions may actually damage your radio and flashing back to a prev version may not help - or at least not repair it (may at least stop further worsening). In my case this is exactly how it's panned out. Occasionally I get a couple of days of good use from it but then (usually it sems when I need to call someone in a hurry) it either gives me 'operation failed' for the call or the sim status becomes unknown and no radio at all is possible until SR, sometimes HR.
The other Hermes never had radio upgrades, just OS, and that's how it's staying.
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Youve checked it for bad blocks?