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O2 RELEASE ROM UPGRADE FOR XDA2S

I have been sent a link from O2 Data Support for downloading the new XDA2s ROM upgrade, which apparently will fix the Bluetooth problems.
The link is...
http://www.sourceo2.com/O2_Developers/Devices/O2_Xda_II/XdaIIs_launchROM.htm
Haven't done anything with it yet, but thought you guys might like to know...
regards,
Guy

Hmm I wonder if I can use this update on my O2 Xda2s.
I got it in Malasyia.
Noel

I installed it on my UK XDA 2s, I will report back later.

In the PDF it's saying that this version is only for devices sold by O² UK or O² Ireland... Not sure if I should give it a go on my version..
Noel

I think I might wait and see what others say about this before I install it myself. So many that have it already say it is great but then you hear others say it has caused problems.

That post is the launch rom, not an upgrade. LMAO It is intended for people who attempt to flash the XDA IIs with a different vendors rom and screw it up.
Mike

Nope, its not, click the link. O2 are obviously just too lazy to create a new page for a new rom!
Nigel

HAHA you are correct!!! LMAO oh well. :shock: :lol:

Hi..have installed the update..and have encountered several problems...was wondering if anyone could help me.
I hate the fact that the clock has disappeared from the top right so whe u are using applications its no longer visible. Is there any way of bring it back?
Also now when you click the o2 at the top it dosn't give the active connections anymore. Therefore whats the quickest way to disconnect the gprs? and is there any way of bringing that back to how it used to be?
I have also had to reset my phone more often that I had to before.
Was wondering if anyone had encountered the same problems and how to resolve them.
Thanks so much...

Bit the bullet and upgraded last night, wifi still works and as I use Corporate mode I don't get any issues with 02 active, icons or clocks. All seems normal, so far!

Have to agree with Dave. I finally bit the bullet and installed the update last night. Don't like the new O2 active and put the clock straight back with the registry key.
Other than the missing clock and poor O2 Active software which I never use anyway no real problems. Tom Tom still works fine with my Bluetooth GPS receiver. WIFI still works fine with WPA security and everything locked down on the access point.
Still receive SMS notification and its nice that you're not limited to 70 char when using ' in sms text messages now!
All ok.

har5ha:
Just get the old O2 active back. To to this, head to the xda-dev FTP site, find the old O2 XDA IIs extended rom, pull it, find the file install.ARM.CAB (O2 active)
Sync/backup yr stuff then hard reset the XDA IIs, and let it do its stuff. When leave it to install the extended rom, but be ready to soft reset it when you get asked the 'corporate/personal' question (you'll have to watch the screen since there is a timeout). Once it reboots, copy install.ARM.CAB to the machine, and execute it. It will soft reset yr device at the end.
I use 2 things from O2 active, the battery plugin and the O2 icon to kill connections. Shame billy did not think to include a disconnect dialogue as well really (he put on in for vpn).
There might be a way to install old over new, dunno. I tried and it locks loads of files (even if you prevent it from loading).
Nigel

thanks Nigel...I ended up installing gb soft for the disconnect button.
So its ok...still getting loads of crashing. I think am going to reinstall it and then use corporate mode..hopefully it will crash less!

can I get an update on xda iis rom update
Hi all, I'm still new to this whole thing but reading and researching all I can. Don't have an xda iis as of yet, but on the high streets waiting list. I like the phone and in one way, can't wait, but don't want problems when I get it, especially at the price. Can anyone on o2 that has purchased their phone from o2 let me know how you are getting on...problems...ect, before and after the update.? To be honest, I'm a bit afraid to bite the bullet and get one right now due to what I'm hearing...especially since I'm not very computer smart. I do understand that it depends a lot on the manufacturer of the phone but if I had problems like I'm hearing about it would really do my head in...(no patience). Thanks

Well I love my phone to bits...had issues with the update but now that I have hard reset it and put it corporate mode its not freezing anymore.
But you have to remember its a pocket pc...like a pc..will need to be reset every so often...I was resetting mine of average once a day. It just takes a minute.
There are some negative points..but the positive outweighs the negative I think. My old pda was palm os (clie) and this is windows which is really good! As well as the fact that it has a phone built in too!

Hi all.
Can you please post some more feedback on this rom.
How is the BT stability?
Range?
Crackling noise?
License Expired troubbles?
I know its Build 3500, but maybe something else in this rom makes a difference.
How about the problem with sound dissapering when you answer a call.
Any troubbles here? This is really a pain in the (_!_)

Running the New Rom for a couple of days now and it seems much better than the launch Rom, The O2 active stuff is just as pants as usual so remove that and the "Connections" exe from Windows\startup.
Best thing is that it's stopped the annoying bug of the GPRS settings being screwed up when you enable/disable Wi-Fi.
Recommend it myself

Password
Anybody knows the password for this rom

PDA2K Upgrade
Hi, Can this rom replace the i mate rom on the 2K.& If so will it then be sim locked to O2? as I want to use an O2 pay as you go, & T-mobile sim
many thanks in advance............

Xda_IIs_v131139_upgrade.exe Update

Hi guys,
Recently installed the latest ROM offered by O2 onto my XDA2s, having firstly been incredibly frustrated that I'd lost all my txt messages and installed applications, I have since found that the phone locks up almost daily now - it particularly seems to be whenever switching the phone on/off with the topright power button - at which stage it'll just freeze.
Sometimes when making a call, I'll dial the number, and when ringing starts, switch the phone display off so as to save batteries, when doing the same since the ROM update, the phone seems to hang.
VERY frustrated, anyone any ideas, or experiencing the same?
Another question, with Bluetooth Audio, is there any way to stream a telephone call through my PC via a bluetooth link allowing me to chat/hear through the PC instead of the phone?
And finally, does anyone else find the Network Connections settings on the PocketPC OS incredibly stupid, confusing and impossible to accurately setup for Internet access through Wireless/Bluetooth??
Cheers, Ash

this may help
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=18350
follow the above thread. I found by doing what it said about removing o2 active stuff I havent had to soft reset since..
I would also add that I have also upgraded to radio rom 1.12.00 and Blue tooth 3900 (shortly after so not certain it was due just to that but likely)
If I can be any help at all PM me and I will try and assist maybe talk on instant messenger..
But I must repeat it hasnt locked since the above and the battery life seems much much greater.... for instance I left it on from 6pm last night until 7am this morning and it appeared to loose only 10% battery including making a couple of calls..
I would do it again with and uk xda2s
Hope that helps
as for the rest of your questions no idea LOL
Stay happy

Thanks for your reply, I did install the upgrade in Corporate mode having read that thread first, but its still installed all the O2 Active stuff - so should I now remove the bits from my Startup folder that relate to O2?
Also, I now cannot find any easy way to disconnect GPRS once its connected????

yep
I would get rid of the active bits as said.. to disconnect gprs simply press and hold the red hang up button
I will look again at your posts and answer anything else I can.. dont know if you have noticed but this site is slow so sorry for the delay in replying
have you upgraded the radio rom and BT version?????
stay happy

did you enter a corporate code when setting up in corporate mode?
0506 i belive
stay happy

Ahhhhh, I thought Corporate Code was for the screen password lock or something, so I just entered my usual code - should I rewrite the rom upgrade again, or can I run the setup program separately on the XDA to enter the 0506 code??
I'm currently running...
Rom V: 1.31.00 WWE
Rom Date: 12/13/04
Radio V: 1.06.00
Protocol: 1337.38
ExtRomV: 1.31.139 WWE
Is that the latest? got from the official O2 website.
Thanks also for the GPRS disconnect, that helps, shame it doesn't tell you, hehe!

you should just be able to do a hard reset and put it into corporate mode. do a backup first though..
The versions you are running are the latest from O2 I think.... however you can find the ones I am using on this forum... I have found them much better and if you are going to do a hard reset you might want to do them first....
anything else just shout..
stay happy

Yeah but if you back up then you are backing up the O2 active stuff as well. When you do a hard reset and choose corporate ok. But when you use backup restore the O2 active gets restored. I use Sprite as backup and i can't see offhand how to backup everything EXCEPT the O2 active stuff so that it won't reinstall on a restore. I've manually put back all my progs etc and then backed up so O2 Active won't come back.
I have to say that the latest O2 Rom update using the personal rather than corporate mode is a disaster. My phone was locking up every day. I was getting really p***** off with it. Now I have got shot of the O2 active stuff everything works fine.

Hi
Here are the instructions I got form Brian at O2 data Support. Back up to PC rather than storage card and restore from there. Here goes:
Workaround - setup a 'Corporate' install that doesn't include the Active
User Interface
Before starting insure important data is saved by syncing to Outlook on your
PC if needed (do not use backup/restore)
* Hard reset.
* Near the end of the custom applications auto-install you will be
given a choice of "Corporate" or "Personal". You should choose "Corporate".
Note: you will only have approx 5 seconds to choose this option, after which
the 'Personal' option will be automatically selected
* You will be asked for a pin. Enter 0506 (that's zero five zero
six) and tap Finish
* You will see the message "Welcome corporate user, O2 Active won't
be installed". Your device is now ready and you will have everything except
the Active User Interface.
Important: the mobile web, WAP and mms settings WILL still be preset.
Hope this helps
Regards
Chris

XDA IIs Software and Bluetooth Headset

I've recently purchased an XDA IIs (unlocked and used on Vodaphone). Overall very impressed but I am having some annoying problems that I'm hoping for advice on (my collegue has also purchased one and is having similar problems, so I don't think it a hardware problem)
The XDA has just the standard O2 software apps installed and I have upgraded to ROM 1.31.00 WWE (from my-xda.com a few days ago), its say radio version is 1.06.00
Problems:
1) Very unreliable software, I quite frequently (several times a day) have to press the reset button. I seem to have the most recent version from O2. I see some comments on the forum about disabling O2 Active software?
2) I'm using a Bluetooth headset (Jabra BT250), this worked well with my previous phone a Nokia 6310i. Specifically:
- When I receive an incoming call it rings on the headset, if I answer by pressing the button on the headset in generally (but not always) answers with the headset connected as I need. But if I answer by pressing the answer button on the phone (hard button or pop-up menu button) the headset isn't connected and its a struggle to get it to connect mid call. However if I make outgoing calls in nearly always uses the headset correctly. Very annoying an inconsistent behaviour. I'd rather not use a different headset as I like the Jabra and the problems seem to be due to the XDA as it worked fine on the 6310i
- The range is hopeless, people say its very hard to hear me if the XDA is more than a couple of feet away, even turning my head so the Jabra and XDA are on opposite sides degrades the quality badly, I didn't think my head was that thick! With the 6310i I could be at least 10 feet away
- The volume, even at maximum, is too low, especially in a noisy environement like a car. It's much less than with the 6310i on exactly the same BT 250
I hope there are some fixes for this. I think the XDA is a great, really useful all in one device, but the poor relaibility and terrible bluetooth headset support are really spoiling it for me
Regards
Mike

Hi...
I just ordered my XDA IIs..hehe..selling my PDA2k now..love the black color..
Hehe..anyway, my PDA2k was using the BT 3500 drivers and i have the same problem as yours occasionally.
Most of the time, when i answer from the unit (not the BT headset's button), the caller can barely hear my voice.
However if i use the BT headest's button, it was fine...
I was using the Jabra BT250 also..but sold it to get the Motorola HS850..
Both are giving me the same problems...
I've read on several threads where poeple are successful in using the BT 3900 patch (sorry of i'm wrong)..but my PDA2k does not work with the patch..the screen turns garbage n messed up..had to hard reset it
I love this unit..canlive around with its current problems..hehe..hopefully it gets fixed.
Cheers!

The BT problems described above appear fairly common amoung xdaIIs users. Based on my research on this, there are a few things listed below that can help. Listed in order of ease to do. Start with 1 and progress to 5 if you are feeling brave :? or wait for 6!
1. (EASY) Keep your add on "Today Plugins" to an absolute minimum: I have found that SBP Pocket Plus to be particularly troubelsome and had to uninstall it.
2. (NOT TOO DIFICULT) Disable O2 Active: O2 advised me that the xda2s is more stable in "corporate mode" with O2 Active disabled. To do this you will need to back up your device data to your PC and then do a hard reset. As the device boots up and starts to go through the configuration process, you will be prompted to choose "corporate mode". You only have about 5 seconds to say "yes" before the configuration continues and installs personal mode. Select 'yes' and you will be prompted for a code. Enter 0506 (that's zero five zero
six) and tap Finish. You will see the message "Welcome corporate user, O2 Active won't be installed". Your device is now ready and you will have everything except the Active User Interface.
3. (MORE DIFFICULT) Upgrade your BT Stack from BT Build 3500 to BT 3900. Details on how to do this are provide in the companion wiki-developers forum
4. (A LITTLE SCARY) Upgrade your Radio Stack to 1.10 and your BT Stack to Build 3900. If you want to upgrade the radio stack at all, WIKI folks recommend upgrading the radio stack first and then the BT Stack.
5. (MORE SCARY!) Upgrade your BT and Radio Stack AND your ROM. WIKI have posted 1.40, which it seems can be used in conjunction with the existing extended ROM on the O2 XDA 2s. Not for the feint hearted, although the instruction they post for this are pretty comprehensive I must say.
I "talked" to one xda2s user who had gone through to step 5 and most of his issues had been resolved. I am at number 2 right now... Thinking of going to 3,4,and 5, but probably waiting for 6.........
6...?......ah yes...., wait for O2 to post the next full ROM update... :wink:
Hope that helps
Regards
Chris

The BT problems described above appear fairly common amoung xdaIIs users. Based on my research on this, there are a few things listed below that can help. Listed in order of ease to do. Start with 1 and progress to 5 if you are feeling brave :? or wait for 6!
1. (EASY) Keep your add on "Today Plugins" to an absolute minimum: I have found that SBP Pocket Plus to be particularly troubelsome and had to uninstall it.
2. (NOT TOO DIFICULT) Disable O2 Active: O2 advised me that the xda2s is more stable in "corporate mode" with O2 Active disabled. To do this you will need to back up your device data to your PC and then do a hard reset. As the device boots up and starts to go through the configuration process, you will be prompted to choose "corporate mode". You only have about 5 seconds to say "yes" before the configuration continues and installs personal mode. Select 'yes' and you will be prompted for a code. Enter 0506 (that's zero five zero
six) and tap Finish. You will see the message "Welcome corporate user, O2 Active won't be installed". Your device is now ready and you will have everything except the Active User Interface.
3. (MORE DIFFICULT) Upgrade your BT Stack from BT Build 3500 to BT 3900. Details on how to do this are provide in the companion wiki-developers forum
4. (A LITTLE SCARY) Upgrade your Radio Stack to 1.10 and your BT Stack to Build 3900. If you want to upgrade the radio stack at all, WIKI folks recommend upgrading the radio stack first and then the BT Stack.
5. (MORE SCARY!) Upgrade your BT and Radio Stack AND your ROM. WIKI have posted 1.40, which it seems can be used in conjunction with the existing extended ROM on the O2 XDA 2s. Not for the feint hearted, although the instruction they post for this are pretty comprehensive I must say.
I "talked" to one xda2s user who had gone through to step 5 and most of his issues had been resolved. I am at number 2 right now... Thinking of going to 3,4,and 5, but probably waiting for 6.........
6...?......ah yes...., wait for O2 to post the next full ROM update... :wink:
Hope that helps
Regards
Chris

Chris
Thanks for this. I changed to Corporate mode 6 days ago and its only had one crash, compared to before 5-6 times PER DAY!
Any idea when O2 are meant to be offering the next ROM update (are we talking weeks or months)?
Regards
Mike

I can't not see the 5 seconds page for selecting "corporate mode" when i do a hard reset.
I do hard reset by press on/off button + press on reset button.

Hi Mike
Well, it is supposed to be the end of April, so my guess is that it will be weeks, rather than months at this point. Also, the 1.40 ROM posted on wiki is a WWE version, so maybe this is a 'bootleg' version of what is to come from O2... only a guess on my part here...not really sure of it's origin...
Regards
Chris

Hi MR2046
What device and what ROM version do you have loaded?
Regards
Chris

Hi cbrow51,
I use O2 XDAIIs
ROM : 1.31.00 WWE
Radio : 1.02.00
Protocal : 1337.32
ExtROM : 1.31.920 WWE
Thanks
2046

Hi MR2046
The option to select corporate mode comes up close to the end of the install after you do the hard reset. You only get about 5 seconds to say 'yes' and then enter the code, before personal mode continues and installs the O2 Active stuff.
I see from your info that you have the older radio ROM (Current 02 version is 1.06) and a different extended ROM (I have 1.31.139WWE)... Not sure if the difference in extended ROM would cause you not to get this option or not...
I would try hardresetting again and see if you get the corp mode option. if you don't, then you might want to download the latest ROM from the O2 web site.
Hope this helps
Chris

Thanks a lot
But the O2 asia website did not update anything. There is only a small patch for BT upgrade.
BTW, which O2 website you meant?

BT sync and internet access
Hi all,
what about Bt sync/internet access? does anyone manage to do it ? i do not use a headset but i am trying for some weeks to get connected to my desktop via BT - with no results... i upgraded to 3900 just today but it did not help .
the manual of the device is not helpful for doing so...

which O2 Website
Hi MR2406
ah! that probably explains it. Sounds like you have the O2 Asia ROM then, correct?
I am using the UK ROM from the UK O2 web site. I am not sure if you would be able to download the UK ROM to your device, which I assume is of Asian origin..? O2 UK state that you should only download their ROM if your device meets certain criteria. Take a look on the site and check compatibility before downloading / installing.
From the very rudimentary understanding that I have from looking through the wiki site, its possible that you might get some kind of country and or operator code errors if you install the UK rom on your device. That said, there are detailed instructions on how to correct these errors also.
If I were you, I would look through all the materials on wiki, check the O2 site in UK and then decide on the best approach.
Hope that helps
Regards
Chris

O2 XDA IIs, unleashed.

Hello people
I just got a new XDA IIs from O2.
This thread will hopefully serve purpose to all other new users of the XDA IIs as well.
I just got it and wondering how I can get the best of it like all you lot. You all seem to know quite a lot about it.
Here are the details I managed to pull out from it.
ROM version: 1.31.00 WWE
ROM date: 12/03/04
Radio version: 1.06.00
Protocol version: 1337.38
ExROM versiom: 1.31.139 WWE
Windows Mobile 2003 SE
Version: 4.21.1088 (Build 14132)
Processor Intel(R) PXA263
Bluetooth for Windows CE
BT-PPC/PE Version 1.0.0 Build 3500
I beleive I need to update this to the latest of whatever is out there. I dont know what good they would do to the PDA either.
From reading some of the posts here on the forum, I managed to find out about Battery Pack Pro v2 and ewallet. These are the only 2 software I installed. Oh yes, I got hold of serial keys for both of these so anyone who needs the serials, your problem is solved. Just sent me a msg.
Futhermore, I have installed the GPRS monitor which I cant find much use of.
Other software:
Skype
Macromedia flash player
FonixVoiceDial
I have beebn browsing on the GPRS alot as well, I would apreciate confirmation that GPRS on o2 is free.
I was wondering how to upgrade the windows media player 9.
As you all can see, I just got it and trying to get the most of it. Any help would be apreciated. All the newbies check the thread as much as possible, someone is bound to help.
I just purchased a backup copy of tomtom 5 from ebay for a few quid (not original apparently). He is shipping it soon. The guy claims its unlocked etc. I hope I can make it work. Any advice?
I will purchase an SD card and bluetooth receiver soon for tomtom. Anything I need to know before I do ?
I was wondering what games I can put on it as well. I can come up with so many questions. I have been looking at other posts as well. For instance, fixing the camera drivers for better picture quality and playing an MP3 as a ringtone. These threds are started where the problem arises rather than how to do it from scratch, so a bit lost there.
I am just looking for some free advice. God bless.

First off ditch the O2 rubbish that came with the phone ( the active interface) it will reduce the number of times it crashes - hard reset then when prompted select Corporate user and enter 0506 as the key. As for TT5 it works fine with my O2XDAII2 but NOT with bluetooth GPS - I use bluetooth for my headset and found it terminated the GPS when I hang up from a call - now using a wired GPS and BT headset its all fine. As for MP3 as a ringtone put it on the PDA nav to it in file explorer tap and hold then from the pop up box select "set as ringtone" - works fine for me. You do have the latest firmware / OS as far as O2 is concerned, others can comment if this is any good or not. One other tip if when you make a call or answer an inbound there is no one there - i.e. you can't hear anyone, select bluetooth on then off and re-make the call - don't know why it does this as its real anoying - Finally had two bills from O2 since I got my XDA and neither had any charge pertainin to the use of GPRS, and I was using it but not too much as I use WIFI its quicker and free in my local pub!! mike

Hey and thanks for responding.
So you reckon a hard reset wout fix the crashes eh, I'll have to try that, just that I installed a lot of stuff on this and would need to purchase an SD card to do all the backup. All in good time though.
I tried out what you said about navigating to the MP3 file and then holding down choosing SET AS RINGTONE thing, there is no such option on my set. Maybe some sort of driver needs to be installed?
Thanks for the tip for the GPS wired set. I will definitely go for that. I am using the Nokia bluetooth headset, do you think I should switch to Jabra BT250?
Can anyone comment on the ROM updates?
What is Radio? What does that mean?

Alitech,
Have a read through this first:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blueangel

Thanks for the link. I have checked it out. I will take it slow with the updates, dont want to muck up you know.
You seem to have all the latest Roms installed. Well done.

alitech said:
Can anyone comment on the ROM updates?
What is Radio? What does that mean?
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radio is the software that turns the pda into a mobile fone, also functions the bluetooth, tho i am led to beleive that, so someone correct me if i am wrong,
you are on o2's rom of 1.31.00 WWE, you seriously need to upgrade, but not on an o2 rom, i would suggest an upgrade to 1.40, but only if you dont mind playing with it, cos first timers tend to need help after they cannot get it to startup again, lol, many a time i have helped people after this, lol, but imate 1.40 is a good rom, which i use and it is as stable as it is ever going to get, there is no o2 rubbish, altho i did like it, it is pointless when it creates more harm than good. bluetooth will work better, but only for sending files and so on..... as it will upgrade to BT 3900. oh and wm10 which is an added bonus,
i have heard on the other hand that people have had problems with this rom, but so far, ive had it about 2-3 months now, and its never given me a problem!!!..so best to read wiki and browse the forums for 1.40 rom questions.
if you decide to upgrade to a better rom, and need help, just ask us on here and we will be happy to help.... or pm me and i sort you out.....
joey. 8)

Thanks for your offer joey. I will definitely send you a pm once i have read all that needs to be read. I will check out everything in detail.
I dont think any other phone compares to these customizable mofos. We rule.

I have found the O2 interface makes the IIs very unstable. There are threads that give details of how to remove it, but I have attached a text file giving the sequence. This does not need a hard reset at any stage, so you can keep all the software you have already loaded.
If you do at any time need to hard reset the O2 interface is automatically reloaded and so you will need to go through this process again.

missing attachment from last post

Give up here is the text instead!
O2 Active GUI removal
O2 seems to have been trying to make it more difficult to remove it this time, but once you get it cleared out the unit operates a lot faster.
1) Remove "connection.exe" in the "Windows/startup/ folder
2) Remove "xpdr_02" in the Windows/fonts/ folder
3) soft reset
4) Unistall "O2 Active UI"- note this will fail, but it gets rid of some items
5) Soft reset
6) Either from your PC, using ActiveSync or on the XDA IIs using file explorer, remove the entire "Mobile Solutions" folder from the windows/ folder.
7) Unistall "O2 Active UI" again - which again will fail, should this time advise program removed but again will indicate some items not removed
8) Remove the entire "ms" folder from the windows/ folder which should now be empty.
9) Soft reset
10) Check "remove programme" in settings to make sure that o2 active UI no longer appears in the list
11) Clear at last, well not quite. There is still a registry entry lurking that can be removed using "remover" or similar.

Which is Better O2 XDA EXEC ROM, iMATE JASJAR or QTEK 9000

Can someone please share their experience.
I am interrested to know how the devices perform in the Corporate install of the O2 and the JasJar.

Having used both I would recommend the o2 Exec ROM, I've ended up reverting back to this due to stability issues with the Imate ROM. Both ROM's will need registry hacks, go with the o2 one running in corporate mode.

The corporate with the code 0506?
Is the pocket MSN there on that configuration?
Which one is the most generic config?

a18041967 said:
Having used both I would recommend the o2 Exec ROM, I've ended up reverting back to this due to stability issues with the Imate ROM. Both ROM's will need registry hacks, go with the o2 one running in corporate mode.
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Is it possible to flash a Jasjar with the O2 ROM? If so will I lose anything?

skearon said:
a18041967 said:
Having used both I would recommend the o2 Exec ROM, I've ended up reverting back to this due to stability issues with the Imate ROM. Both ROM's will need registry hacks, go with the o2 one running in corporate mode.
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Is it possible to flash a Jasjar with the O2 ROM? If so will I lose anything?
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Yes,you can flash any ROM to your Jasjar , you will lose your setting email..etc,others same as new.

I have just loaded my MDA PRO with the O2 ROM, and tryed all the possible installs (basic, Corporate with code 0506 and personal)
Only the Corporate one is really customisation free. I have myself bypassed the extended_ROM so now I have run only one cab the Default_Enable_VT_RTPlugin_0727_2_signed.CAB which is responcible for the video call. Strangely enough I have the same scin in the dialer as I had in the JasJar ROM...
Also as mentioned by... that by O2 ROM the splash screen is not installed it is not true, as right after the upgrade to the O2 ROM and the reset you see the O2 splash screen, which is untill now the nicest looking splash screen.
What I can say after 2 hours of using the O2 ROM is the following:
1. The amount of free program memory after reset is the same as by JasJar ROM.
2. The device is at least twice as fast as with the JasJar ROM.
Conclusion for now I am much happier with the O2 ROM. Much more stable and responsive.

As I am using Jasjar and after your comments I am considering moving to o2 could you tell me how you configured your Jasjar? Specifically, I am using my jasjar without the extended rom except for the video dialler and the bluetooth patch. It is generally running well except for the need to hard reset once in a while. When comparing with the O2 were you also using Jasjar without extenstion?
Thanks, apap

Having used both ROMs, I think they're essentially the same ROM with a few minor branding cosmetic mods... The two ROMs are only dated 2 wks apart and doubt there are any major differences.
To be honest, I couldn't find any performance gain or loose using either one of them and the O2 ROM seem to be slightly smaller in size (maybe due to the additional Imate games/themes etc?) So after going Imate ROM with O2 extended ROM, I went back to all O2 ROM..

I have a Jasjar. Due to the machine freezing occassionally on arrival of a new SMS I would like to give the O2 ROM a try.
I shall be obliged if someone can tell me that when I have installed the O2 ROM and would like to go back to the i-mate ROM would this be possible. What is the procedure to revert from O2 ROM back to the I-mate ROM.
I will appreciate your help
Regards

OK boys and girls...
I have tryed the O2 ROM the whole day yesterday and last night late reverted to JasJar ROM. Reason: maybe I did something wrong but in corporate install of the O2 ROM with the code 0506 but I had no pdf reader which is unfortunately a crucial software for me. I have tried to install it from the cabs of the O2 ROM and from JasJar ROM but it would not work. Of course the solution might be to get a cracked version. But that fact pissed me off so much that I have loudly cursed O2 and reverted to JasJar.
Observations: I have noticed that O2 ROM has more program memory when you reset the device but once you use the thing the amount of program ROM is the same as in JasJar. So the fact that just after the soft reset there is more ROM is actually not interresting. I also found that in the O2 ROM there is a problem with the start menu opening up first time after a soft reset (If you soft reset the device and then for the first time click on start it takes 10-13 seconds to open it up) and this issue was the biggest issue for me to change to O2 ROM. Pocket MSN seemed to work faster and is more responsive on the O2 and maybe overal performance is a little notch better then JasJar. The Bootup Splash screen on the O2 is much nicer then on JasJar it is really sharp and cool
Conclusions: If you like experimenting try out the O2 ROM because you get to see also (if you try out the Personal install) how badly an operator can F*** up the device, it is beyond my understanding but it is hideous their Launch software, the screen looks like a battle field and I get dizzy looking at it, the task manager which it installs is such a crap only due to a fact that once you close all the progs with the task manager the task manager is still running so to close it too you have to go to settings ->system->memory and close it from there. I can understand that the task manager which you can use from your today screen has to be running in order to work but this task manager you have to start by going to programs and starting it manually, It is comepletely beyond me what is the purpose of such a task manger, but hey maybe I am STUPID ???
The battery icon moved next to the start I can understand the handyness of this, but the O2 icon which does not do anything is also comepletely beyond my understanding. Plus when changing the screen orientation the battery and the O2 icons suddenly get a darker background and it looks like it hangs, but it only looks like it the device does not hang, but it is still an ugly sight to see...
If you opt for the Corporate install with the 0506 code I think you are fine the machine performs as it should, and is very stable, no O2 annoyances and no O2 **** to be seen apart from a couple of icons in the Programs. One of them is the O2 install which I beleive supposed to allow you to change your install type, without making a hard reset, but of course it only works in one direction, meaning that if you have a corporate install with the code 0506 and you want to change to standard or to personal it will work but if you are running the standard and want to go back to corporate or if you are runnning the Personal (full featuer O2) and want to change to standard it will not work. After playing around with that I have found that my simmanager and enroller icons dissapeared, but I was able to get it back by running one of the cabs. it was different with the pdf reader, since I need one I have decided to run that O2 install type thingy and chose first standard install which did not bring the pdf back, and then I have chosen the personal install which would mean that I should have now everything on it , the pdf icon was there but alais the pdf did not work I kept on getting an error.
One more thing when you install the CORP version the dialer skin is the same as by the JasJar so I beleive that that is the generic skin, since the O2 Dialer skin is very vague the buttons are beautiful, but have to much light in them so it is difficult to see the letters
SO I am back to JasJar ROM and I beleive will stick to it for a while.
The progs I run :
TT5.1
Resco Explorer
Skype 1.2 beta
Backgammon
Total commander
All installed on the storage card
I hope this not too boring and helps folks here.

srmz said:
I have a Jasjar. Due to the machine freezing occassionally on arrival of a new SMS I would like to give the O2 ROM a try.
I shall be obliged if someone can tell me that when I have installed the O2 ROM and would like to go back to the i-mate ROM would this be possible. What is the procedure to revert from O2 ROM back to the I-mate ROM.
I will appreciate your help
Regards
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I have done it and reverted back to the JasJasr rom no problems and I have an MDA PRO, so I am even further way from home.
Follow this thread to learn what are the procedures for upgrading:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=29354&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
Good luck

The Exec ROM (basic and Corporate) do not suffer from a buggy Messaging app on the JJ ROM. The JJ ROM can cause the JJ to freeze on SMS notification and can crash when receiving emails over UMTS.

You mean the imate email app ?? or the bult in functionality. Because I do not have those symptoms. and I have received only today already about 12 sms messages.
About receiving the e-mail overUMTS: I use exchange active sync over UMTS and works like a charm without any problems...Maybe it freezes when using pop mail or imap? What is your configuration ?
And once again by the "buggy messaging app" you mean the imate e-mail??

Can someone confirm the presence of MSN and PDF inthe O2 Corporate mode ????
Thanx

Jasjar or O2?
I have also been wondering whether to try O2. Overall, after many trials I am quite satisfied with Jasjar. I have not installed extended rom except for bluetooth patch and smardialer cabs. I am running: pocketinformant, magicbutton, repligo, netfront 3.3, resco explorer, pocket mechanic, microsoft voice command. I have done a number of recommended register tweaks. I have also updated the radio to 1.04.
Speed is good.
Remaining problems: Once in a while I need to soft reset to overcome freezes. My main problem now is that I cannot install new programs or updates, nor can I remove programs.
It would be useful to find out how others are dealing with these problems and whether thos running O2 corporate are confronting similar problems.
Should I switch to O2 corporate? There seem to be conflicting views on the matter.
thanks, apap

Churchill:
You wrote a few things about Extended ROMs, Code 0506 (for o2 Corp. mode?), and about bypassing the extended ROMs.
Also there was a mention of bluetooth and radio Cabs...
I would be obliged if you could elaborate and explain them to me.
I have the o2 Exec and would like to experiemnt with the corp. mode since I find that in personal mode it freezes up all too often (not enough memory I guess...) but I wouldn't like to loose essential functionality by changing my ROM.
Thanks in advance

Well I am right now updating my MDA PRo from JasJar Rom to O2 ROM, since I still think the O2 ROM was a notch faster in the corporate mode.
I would not advice you to bypass the extended rom install as I found that some things do not work properly like the sim manager and pdf.
You are fine with the Corporate mode since it is the cleanest of all options including the JasJar.
Also Pocket MSN is more responsive in the O2 corporate mode, then with JasJar ROM.
So just go ahead and do a hard reset and choose corporate mode with the code 0506.
By the Way as I have already mentioned earlier the Boot splash screen of O2 is the best till now. Funny is that I was called by T-Mobile representative a couple of days ago and asked what I think about the MDA PRO. I have told him that MDA PRO with t-mobile customization is history by me and I am running JasJar. He warned me that if something happens to my device they can not help me now since there is no t-mobile rom available to flash it with (I do not understand that where is the release rom? did they loose it or something?) but I am still eligible for my 2 year warranty. He also asked why I have switched to JasJar, I have told him that the t-mobile customisation is crap and that the device was slow and unstable. He confirmed that and also saysd that this is exactly the reason why he is contacting me, since they aparently received a threat from one of the major consumer organisations in the netherlands. So he sayd that they are verifying the isue with the users and it does not look good since everybody complains. So hopefully t-mobile will release new rom soon...
Funny is that I have mentioned to him that I hate the hideous colors and boot splash screen of t-mobile rom, his answere was that the boot splash screen they are extremely proud of since it took a long time to come up with the design.... DUDE how long can it take to come up with something so hideous?
Anyhow....
P.S. I let you guys know how is my MDA PRo with O2 ROM

Adobe acrobat reader is available freely from the adobe site, in the same way as their readers always are:
http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readerforppc.html
HTH

The O2 Exec has OS 1.13.48, which has a memory leak bug. Commontime mNotes synchronization cannot free the memory after use, so a 3rd consecutive sync empties out all remaining RAM. This was resolved in OS version 1.13.53, which is on the Jasjar.
Yes, the Exec ROM seems a tad faster, but at least for me the memory leak is decisive for the Jasjar ROM.

Jasjar or O2?
Wiz, have you reverted to Jasjar? Also, I do not quite understand the memory leak problem. Does this mean that there is a danger of losing note information? Finally, any suggestions on how to resolve the inability to add new programs? Does this problem occur only with Jasjar?
Thanks, apap