[Q] HD-port vs diamond 2.00? - Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV ROM Development

Ive seen a lot of developments on the first page pertaining to ported HD rom and the new diamond 2.00. For those who have experienced with both (I'm comfortable with 1.93 at the moment), which version seems to be better in terms of usability, stability and performance?
Thanks

I just flashed the 2.0 AFK WWE rom
and WOW, it blows the doors off of 1.9. been using it for a few hours now. haven't found any bugs/glitches. everything i've tested so far seems to work but have not installed anything other than advanced config.
no experience with touch HD port but i don't know how it could be faster than this

i'm using PistonRipper's lite 2.00 rom. It's great, it's stable, it's fast (manila is definitely faster than HD)
i've also tried Ct's 6.1 rom with HD manila but it isn't as responsive as the 2.00 rom (try pressing the Home button, on the 2.00 rom it's almost instant, on the HD you still have a small lag)

used a few hd till i moved to pistonrippers 2.00. wow! wee faster, and way more stable!

I tested several versions of both but still not happy, after a few days all start to give smal issues, like not ringing incoming call or alarm not working.
between both; HD roms look nice.

Where is the pistonrippers ROM? I can't seem to find it...

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3024339&postcount=149

Best ROM?
Obviously, the best ROM is the one that suits your needs the best and the one you happen to like the best. Having said that, in answer to your question... I've tried about six different ROM's in as many days, some with ported HD Manila's, some with v1.97, some v2.0
In my opinion, for pure stability, speed, memory management, usability and everything working / displaying as it should - you can't beat Pistonrippers' version of the stock v2.00 test ROM... this is what it does to my face even now

Isn't the 2.00 still a beta? I'm waiting for the official release to try it out
Anyone hazard a guess on when that might be?
Good to know that there are people in HTC working on it even 6 months after the release.... (though this conversely means they weren't quite ready when they released it)

Beta?
butterdori said:
Isn't the 2.00 still a beta? I'm waiting for the official release to try it out
Anyone hazard a guess on when that might be?
Good to know that there are people in HTC working on it even 6 months after the release.... (though this conversely means they weren't quite ready when they released it)
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Whether the v2.0 is a beta or not doesn't matter. It blows the socks of HTC's previously released ROM's... and in my opinion, a lot of the cooked ROM's as well. I wouldn't hold your breath waiting for HTC to slap a new ROM in your lap!

2.00
this beat's any hd ported rom hands .....IMO
trust me.....i have tried them all

friends,, what about duttys 3.6b vs 2.00? what do u say about?

Just tried 2.00 and Duttys 3.6b.. I went back to Duttys. Very stable and had the tools i use. Very close run thing.

yozgatg said:
i'm using PistonRipper's lite 2.00 rom. It's great, it's stable, it's fast (manila is definitely faster than HD)
i've also tried Ct's 6.1 rom with HD manila but it isn't as responsive as the 2.00 rom (try pressing the Home button, on the 2.00 rom it's almost instant, on the HD you still have a small lag)
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My version 6 ROMs are all with the 2.00 base which is very stable and fast, the only diffrence is the manila. I have to agree the latest manila from the 2.00 ROM is very fast but it doesn't have stock like the ported HD manila....and I use it

Duttys 3.6b is as fast as 2.00, I played with 2.00 for a week and went back to duttys as there were a few things about 2.00 i wasnt happy with.

thank you for the helpful replies, guys! With so many good ROMs out there, I don't know which one to use next! THEY'RE ALLL GOOODDD!!!

lude219 said:
thank you for the helpful replies, guys! With so many good ROMs out there, I don't know which one to use next! THEY'RE ALLL GOOODDD!!!
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yeah thats the point! they are all good but some of them hit your needs better than others just choose one if you dun like it just pick up another one im sure you ll find the best for your eneds. for my needs i think udK Syrius HD R0 - Quartz Build 20759.1.4.2 is the best it got some parts portet from the hd and i think for a beta its much better than everything i ve tried yet
cheers

is there a source documenting the changes from 1.93 to 2.0? are there new features or only bug fixes? is there any information if htc will enhance the contacts app or the messaging app? this are the two main areas wm is lacking usability compared to other phone devices.

gdp2000 said:
is there a source documenting the changes from 1.93 to 2.0? are there new features or only bug fixes? is there any information if htc will enhance the contacts app or the messaging app? this are the two main areas wm is lacking usability compared to other phone devices.
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first of all, the speed of the 2.00 rom, its a lot faster and with the last manilla, its faster then any other diamond rom I tried, including the hd port..
it even comes close to the htc blackstone (HD), it reacts just as fast..
about the enhancements:
I found out that you can slide the email messages like in the touchflo3d with this rom..
if you click on a envelope in tf3d it opens the email,then you can slide to the following email by sliding to the left or right, never noticed this before? is it new in 2.00 rom ?

I'm not sure I have even tried 2.0
Does anyone know if Duttys V3.3 is based on a 1.9x or 2.0?

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What is the fastest ROM?

Hi!
What is the fastest ROM for the ARTEMIS?
Is the "ARTEMIS Vanilla 2.0 WWE ROM" or the "ARTEMIS Touch 2.1 WM6 WWE" faster?
Full version or lite version?
Has anybody done a comparison?
bye
Nelix123
well
be the first to campare them
Hi. I find the fastest for me is the HTC P3300 official ROM. I have tried several of these roms here and this and the official O2 rom was the fastest on my Orbit. I am running TomTom6.30 on it and it comes up in like 20 secs from cold all the time. The buttons are responsive and don't have to wait around for them to load. I had not noticed anything adverse with this Rom. Hope it helps.
Meschle Vanilla 2.0
I can definately say meschle's vanilla 2.0 is the fastest rom out there... try it you'll be amazed!
ARTEMIS Vanilla 2.0 WWE ROM is faster then Touch. IMHO
i have artemis 2.2 touch and is very good
@ most of you above: how can you state the speed of different ROMs when you have tested them after each other in stead of next to each other?
I've tried half a dozen different ROMs, but I can't really say which one is the fastest. I have my thoughts off course, but I can't compare them next to each other.
@ TS: if you want to test this, try to install the same programs on eacht ROM (apart from the ones who came with the ROM), and use a stopwatch to measure the time it takes to do some things (for instance open \windows folder, start up TomTom, make the touch cube go round 3 times). Maybe you can find/use a PocketPC benchmark tool to automate some things for you?
I've tried many ROMs for my Artemis. I can simply say meschle's Vanilla 2.0 is the fastest I've seen.
PAQman said:
I've tried many ROMs for my Artemis. I can simply say meschle's Vanilla 2.0 is the fastest I've seen.
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You know, my problem with the Vanilla ROM is that there is no
- AudioManager (eats half of memory than WMP),
- Voice Recorder,
- X-Button / Task Manager,
- Big button dialer (3 buttons in one row, instead of 4)
- HTC Home plugin (OK, it's not necessary if you have Spb Mobile Shell)
on board, if I understood well from the Vanilla 2.0 thread.
I've just mentioned the progs which I'd like to have and all go to Widows folder, causing a remarkable slowdown of the system. So, this is my dilemma: if I clothe a Vanilla with all those programs I loose its speed, the main advantage of the rom.
That's why I'm still hesitating which rom to try, while using the official WM6...
ady_uaic said:
i have artemis 2.2 touch and is very good
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Artemis 2.2 Touch?
When was it released?
I think Touch 2.1 is the latest, isn´t it?
ChiefmasterB said:
Artemis 2.2 Touch?
When was it released?
I think Touch 2.1 is the latest, isn´t it?
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fracoon's artemis 2.2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332008
Ah, ok ... thx.
Was bit confused about the name
Hi!
And thanks for all the information!
One more question:
What do you think and what is your experience, respectively?
What ROM is faster: Vanilla 2.0 (CE OS 5.2.1921 (Build 18125.0.7.0) or original German (CE OS 5.2.1620 (Build 18125.0.4.2)
Or does it make no difference?
Nelix123

The best ROM for Artemis to install - opinions

Hi,
Looking for a new ROM to be installed on my XDA Orbit I though that it would be great to inform all of forum users which one is the best in our opinions. We are testing it a lot, finding bugs and choosing the best one.
Please give to all of us your opinion on the following ROMs using grades from 1-5 (5 - the best one):
- Artemis Touch 3.01 WM6 WWE ROM, 5.2.1921 SDHC Full, Lite)
Artemis Touch 3.01 WM6 WWE ROM, 5.2.1921 SDHC Vanila)
- Black & Blue v4.3
- O2 Premium 2.0 WM6 WWE ROM, 5.2.1921 SDHC (Full & Lite)
I'm using Meschle's Touch 3.01 Full with Cube.. I'd rate it 4 out of 5
- O2 Premium 2.0 WM6 WWE ROM, 5.2.1921 SDHC (Full & Lite)
well, i think Touch 3.01 Full with Cube is the best so far.. with rating 4/5
BEST ROM so far
The Meschle Rom (full) is for me the most stable / fastest / best composition one
Bepe Rom build 0.53
O2 premium 2.0
I am using O2 premium 2.0 - rate 4/5
before I used O2 premium plus 1.0 - rating 5/5 - more stable
I do not know about Toutch 3.1- never tested, but curious..
regards
I'm using Meschle's Touch 3.01 Full with Cube 4/5
AlexTM said:
I am using O2 premium 2.0 - rate 4/5
before I used O2 premium plus 1.0 - rating 5/5 - more stable
I do not know about Toutch 3.1- never tested, but curious..
regards
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Same here. 1.0 drained more memory and was a tad slower but it was more stable as it was.
2.0 is pretty stable too but every now and then you have to reset it because some random issue appears. Usually something small but annoying like, internet won't connect or something. Other than that, it's the best ROM yet for me.
Touch 3.0 was not stable enough for me but I really liked it visually.
Meschle o2 premium 2
Best rom to be run on artemis
Vanilla 2.0 (5\5)
Totally agree about Meschle's Touch 3.01 Full with Cube. I'd rate it as 4.5 out of 5.
really great rom, super fast and stable. Thank again!
I have tried a lot, but nothing was as stable and sophisticated as Bepes 0.53 Full (incl. Cube)
Especially if you use TomTom there's nothing better than flash it with your ROM!
4.5 out of 5 (because of storage running full)
peterkling said:
I have tried a lot, but nothing was as stable and sophisticated as Bepes 0.53 Full (incl. Cube)
Especially if you use TomTom there's nothing better than flash it with your ROM!
4.5 out of 5 (because of storage running full)
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It was very tempting for me to try it, but, reading the thread of Bepe's rom, I'm afraid of the memory leak! It's one of the biggest disadvantage for me if a rom 'eats' the free RAM memory. I know, every ROM does it, even the official, but -according to some forum mates- Bepe's ROM eats a lot and quickly.
Any comment?
Fist had Mischele's TF 3.1, Excellent one, then O2 premium Latest was release. Liked the colourful icons and TF screens. Equally impressed. Both are equally good.
Both ROM were very stable on mine. Maybe my P3300 was 'virgin' before it was flashed with those 2 cooked ROMs.
Thanks to Mischele
ctibor said:
It was very tempting for me to try it, but, reading the thread of Bepe's rom, I'm afraid of the memory leak! It's one of the biggest disadvantage for me if a rom 'eats' the free RAM memory. I know, every ROM does it, even the official, but -according to some forum mates- Bepe's ROM eats a lot and quickly.
Any comment?
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Just because TomTom is in the RAM you can imagine those 20MB are missing, BUT also these 20MB free in your data storage.
This does not matter too much. I have to reset every second/third day to get the Memory back - and this doesn't make much difference to any other ROM (including the original) - just try it!
If you do not use TomTom there is absolutely no disadvantage that has not been solved so far!
Tip: OxiosMemory.PocketPC.CAB (Hibernate) helps a bit
B&B 4.1
I've gone "back" to B&B 4.1 as I personally find it the most stable version. I have customised a lot of the screens to a black vista theme and am very happy without SDHC support as my card is only 2GB!
best rom
for me is Vanilla rom v1 (56MB storage/ 27MB free ram) with gsm 02.93.90 + install SDHC driver.
This rom is without TouchFLO and work correct sbp phonesuite and IM+.
Artemis touch 2.1. I´ve problems with later WM6 version and the use of the phone -sometimes it doesn´t let me to use the PHONE unless I make a softreset-
Ok form my experience Meshcle's newest rom is fast and stable and overall a good rom.
B&B is also good but out-dated now that meschle's rom has come out.
Despite this, i switched back to B&B4.3 simply due to the fact that it LOOKS a lot better.
In my opinion, Meschle and Tom and should wortk together and produce a SUPER rom that has all the good features in meshle's and tom's roms witout any of the bad features.
oh yh and meshcle needs advice on how to make his rom's look better because if they did look better i'd use them.

Which ROM are you using?

Please choose the most usable ROM...
If there is any critical ROM that i didn't mention please let me know...
This is an additionally thread to imperator74's
I thought that a poll could be a good idea..
Im using the original that came with the phone because I dont really know alot about them
I have tested almost every rom you mention but my last and more for my taste is the O2 Premium 2.0 WM6 WWE ROM, 5.2.1921 SDHC .
I have tried a few cooked ROMs from the forum. But now Im back to Original HTC ROM
Vanilla 2.0
I loved trying all cooked ROMs, wished to have the last one (3.01) but it was very buggy, so I am back to vanilla 2.0 cuz it is very table, fast, smooth, nd lovely.
I may try flashing back to an original one, then retry the 3.01 to see if it is better, and let yall know about.
I'm using B&B 4.3 fastest, stable, with nice icons,look it very pro, i like it.thanks TOMCODON
After having been trying O2 Premium 2.0 WM6 WWE ROM, 5.2.1921 SDHC Full for 2 weeks I found a bug that causes hangs on if somebody wants to call me.
Today decided to change to Artemis Touch full with cube. I hope I will not change it for a long time
MoonRiver2007 said:
I'm using B&B 4.3 fastest, stable, with nice icons,look it very pro, i like it.thanks TOMCODON
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Me too!
I was quite mistrustful on cooked ROMs but finally tried B&B 4.3, about 2 weeks ago and I've stick to it so far. It has only minor glitches, like every rom has some... E.g. somtimes it doesn't send an SMS, saying that "the Phone is not ready, wait 15 sec..." and only soft reset helps. But it happened only twice during 2 weeks.
Antoher issue quite important for me is the memory leak. The B&B 4.3 performs quite well in that sense, after a whole day of usage it's around 17-18 M free RAM (from 24 after soft reset). I think it's reasonable, but if somebody knows a rom with minor memory leak, please, tell me!
So, I voted for B&B 4.3.

Choice of Cooked ROM

Hi All,
I'm trying to find a ROM that's tweaked to have beter performance without giving up the standard user interface on my Diamond. Can anyone tell me what the best choice of ROM is and what the major differences are between the ROM's?
I want a ROM with TF3D, Google Maps and Youtube etc.
I use Dutty's V1.4. It's fast, reliable and has all the apps in you mention http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=411707.
V1.5 is due very soon, so it might be worth waiting for that as it fixes a YouTube bug
The problem with ROMs (official and cooked) is that not a single one of them is without bugs. I find this quite annoying actually because all I want is a rock solid ROM...but it's not out there.
andy2111 said:
I use Dutty's V1.4. It's fast, reliable and has all the apps in you mention http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=411707.
V1.5 is due very soon, so it might be worth waiting for that as it fixes a YouTube bug
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This is a popular choice of ROM...
An well worth a donation for all the effects the Man puts in to providing these
Dutty For Me
im going to v1.4 when i get home today
Panoshas 0.8 is my poison.
Dutty's ROM's sure deserves credit, really. I love the man...
Windoze9t8 said:
This is a popular choice of ROM...
An well worth a donation for all the effects the Man puts in to providing these
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Agreed, which is why I've already donated to Diamond Project and Dutty
Best ive tried was the athena 0.8 from panosha.
Was the most stable, and with a good battery life.
But switched to my own, only removed the useless apps and apllied a lot of the tools which i use.
90% of the cooked roms have lots of bugs, useless tools, or else.

Searching for a stable 6.1 ROM without Sense

Hi guys out there!
I am searching for a stable 6.1 ROM with basic functionality without Sense because i want to use SPB Mobile Shell.
I really searched hard, but was not able to find something fitting for me.
Maybe something like Gen.Y 5.5 without Sense. Because i like UC thing.
Hope someone can help me.
Greetz
bobschi said:
Hi guys out there!
I am searching for a stable 6.1 ROM with basic functionality without Sense because i want to use SPB Mobile Shell.
I really searched hard, but was not able to find something fitting for me.
Maybe something like Gen.Y 5.5 without Sense. Because i like UC thing.
Hope someone can help me.
Greetz
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ok i have made my own rom using 21057sys and removing some unnecessory atuff and adding my own reg but it is still wm6.1 and with touch flow if u want it i will upload it for u buddy
bobschi said:
Hi guys out there!
I am searching for a stable 6.1 ROM with basic functionality without Sense because i want to use SPB Mobile Shell.
I really searched hard, but was not able to find something fitting for me.
Maybe something like Gen.Y 5.5 without Sense. Because i like UC thing.
Hope someone can help me.
Greetz
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just grab 5.5 kitchen and do some experiment with it
etoy said:
just grab 5.5 kitchen and do some experiment with it
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i tried a bit yesterday. maybe i'll give it another try at weekend.
thx and greetz
or you could try panosha lite roms
they're old by now, but they lack SENSE - maybe it's worth a shot?
why not just download the official rom and disable sense?
pegasus123 said:
why not just download the official rom and disable sense?
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cause they are not tweaked and do not have uc.
The DIA Duit v1.7 is the best after I tried most of other ROMS, everything works smoothly except the Internet search cannot pass the query to the Opera 10.
.....my opinion tested many rom...
1) dia duit 1,7.
2) min 74 Y2
I was testing atleast 10 ROMs but i am settled with MEMO 2.5.5.1 (they still improving it)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=649841
a worth trying this
You should try Cloudyfa's Rom
http://rapidshare.com/files/261693573/Diamond_Cloudy_1.3.zip
My opinion , i have tested like 50 rom's or so
2.11 Gen.Y wwe
Very stable , all is workind (except video call) by defalut (no patches or others)
Consumes 77 of your memory .
2) min 74 Y2 - This one I reckon it's probably the best only if you use European languages. I tried to install the chinese keyboard input onto the EzInput 2.1 and it failed to show in the keyboard option list. Dia Duit uses the basic one, so I just install EzInput 2.0 and it works with the chinese keyboard.
thangkls said:
You should try Cloudyfa's Rom
http://rapidshare.com/files/261693573/Diamond_Cloudy_1.3.zip
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....also very simply and good rom....
try shak's 4.30, rock solid, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=462455
bobschi said:
Hi guys out there!
I am searching for a stable 6.1 ROM with basic functionality without Sense because i want to use SPB Mobile Shell.
I really searched hard, but was not able to find something fitting for me.
Maybe something like Gen.Y 5.5 without Sense. Because i like UC thing.
Hope someone can help me.
Greetz
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try NATALY 2.7.1 - is fast and stable. just try it...
Chriss33 said:
try NATALY 2.7.1 - is fast and stable. just try it...
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I agree... Nataly project is now near to be a myth, it's inventor was a real genius
anyway the basic kitchens are all the same, what's make difference is above all the approach, if you need a very fast/light rom you have no choice: go for a WM6.1 + classic manila (like I did many months ago), our weak & oldish diamond haven't enough ram to manage the "modern circus"
suiller said:
I agree... Nataly project is now near to be a myth, it's inventor was a real genius
anyway the basic kitchens are all the same, what's make difference is above all the approach, if you need a very fast/light rom you have no choice: go for a WM6.1 + classic manila (like I did many months ago), our weak & oldish diamond haven't enough ram to manage the "modern circus"
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Hi Suiller,
I have watched in your repository and you have many versions. Which version is the newest with the classic manila 1.2 installed by default?
I will try it.
Thanks!
suiller said:
I agree... Nataly project is now near to be a myth, it's inventor was a real genius
anyway the basic kitchens are all the same, what's make difference is above all the approach, if you need a very fast/light rom you have no choice: go for a WM6.1 + classic manila (like I did many months ago), our weak & oldish diamond haven't enough ram to manage the "modern circus"
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...in test nataly,but tired for change rom everyweek...but dia duit is good rom,but diamond have hw limited, ram is very important for best performance...
Try Energy Rom (Titanium) works great.

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