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Hi I'm new to the site, i had read a lot post about upgrading roms from different companys, i read people describe how good the a2dp quilty is, but the problems comes, i first upgraded the rom to T-Mobile , then i found there are a high pitch nosie, at first, i though it was just my earphone, after i changed it, it still the same, then i upgrade to the QTEK rom, the nosie still comes, the nosie comes as the singer start to sing!!! it makes my so dizzy, i had try to link my BT to my PC, but they sound much different! no nosie plus clearer sound!
the second problem is that when a phone call-in, the ringtone goes via BT rather than built-in speaker???
the third problem is if you set ur BT as both hands free/set and wireless stero, during a connected phone call, if you press any button on the dial pad, all the sound will gone, but the phone is still connected, i found this problem when i using my voice mail?!
also after i update to the non-O2 rom, my phone is no longer accept any MMS, i already config all the setting from O2, is just that i don't have my MMS acount appear on my mail box. i also try the .cab setting file too!
My A2DP BT is i-Tech S35
ROM Version: 1.30.77WWE (QTEK)
Radio Version: 1.09.00 (QTEK)
ExtROM Version: 1.13.188 WWE (O2)
Many Thanks!!!
Was it just me than having this problem???
- I've not the first problem.
- I've the second problem
- I never experienced third problem
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=46540
Click on the above link , download the file and run it on your phone, do not alter any of the options, just click next on everything it will fix your MMS problem
thx a ur advice coff... but it still doesn't work, plus i starting to think that the nosie might cause by my s35, due to the campasility.. (sorry can't spell)
Hi MicmiC901,
Yes, it probably is something "locally" with your phone/headset/area/etc, since I also have same experience as asci, meaning;
1. NO, don't have that problem
2. YES, I have same issue (to me this is actually OK, since when headset is connected, I WANT it to only ring in the headset)
3. NO, never experienced this problem
I use the latest Qtek ROM with AKU2 and A2DP, but have never experienced that high-frequent-noise-issue you mention with any other of the A2DP ROMs on my JasJar (TMobile Germany ROM, a custom-ROM from the forums).
so RonnyGydar, which bt headset u using @ the moment? i just try with my friends logitech bt headphone, it get worse than my i.tech, sound get Stuttering , so i think i better change a new bt, would u recommand moto ht-820?
Hi MicmiC901,
Sorry the veeery slow response...but now I have even one more BT Stereo headset...so then you get the "bonus" of even more info in my reply!
I have 3 BT Stereo Headsets, and here is a short summary of experience of them all.
HP BT Stereo Headphones (same HW as the Logitech ones as I understand).
Sound is good, clear, OK bass. Nothing exceptional, but I was very pleased with them. Sound could be a bit higher at the highest volume...if you plan to use then in noisy environments...but not really an issue...since they are quite loud.
Motorola HS820
Soundwise (clarity and bass) very simmilar to the HP ones...can't point my finger on any differences. But they seem actually a little less loud than the HP ones...so with these I struggeled to hear Podcasts when I sat on a bus going through tunnels. The HP headphones are slightly louder, I think.
Bonus of these are the excellent batterylife and miniUSB plug...plus the HP ones do not have a microphone, so the HP ones are only for music. So I would easily chose the Motorola's before the HP headphones.
One minus for me with the Motorola's are that they hurt my ears after a couple of hours of use. ...that at lack of "powerfull" bass, got me to look at the i-Tech BluePRO's...
i-Tech BluePRO
These have very good bass (and they sure look like they should have it too...pretty big earmufflers...with these, you look like you are working at a construction site or something, but the clarity of the sound is actually worse than HP and Motorola...they sound a bit fuzzy.
...but I still use these all the time...mainly for two reasons. One is the excellent bass (I like to listen to techno and trance...and then bass is important, the other is that they isolate outside sounds (due to the enormous padding), so I can have the sound as low as I prefer...and STILL hear all my music without disturbance from other sounds in the environment (like sitting on the bus in a tunnel, or at a noise Gym).
It also seems that there is quite a bit difference in how the different manufacturers implement BT profiles.
My Motorola and i-Tech BluePRO have problems with "Pause/Resume"-button on headset when used with my JasJar (Pause works, but not resume...or opposite...not sure which it was, dont have the headsets with me today)...but the HP ones does not (I tested them a couple of times, and the HP headphones worked all the time)!?
Re-connection after a time without use seems also to vary a bit. The Motorola I can turn off/on the headset, and they reconnect automatically to my JasJar. The i-Tech BluePRO's I must choose re-connect in "Bluetooth settings" on my JasJar every time I want to use them.
The "famous" "lag-issue" everybody experiences I experience with all my headphones in some situations...and it does not seem any better or worse among the headsets. It seems to also be affected by general radio disturbance, since I have a lot of problems with lag at work, but no problems at all at the Gym (which is good for me...since that is the place I am most happy with having my wireless headphones), and some issues at home.
Hope this was of any help!
actually i have the problem micmic is talking about.. it happened when i upgraded my wiz to a newer rom to get the a2dp function. eventually i do not have a bt.stereo -headset yet.. (coming in about 2 weeks) but i have the issues with the sound. it's almost like a bad bitrate or something? ..wierd it is since i remains even if i downgrade my rom. =/
Hi epluribus and MicmiC901,
Is the "stuttering" you both mentioning the same as I call "occational lag"?
IF it is...it you should certainly not have it when you do the following test;
1. Reset your JasJar/Universal (to clean memmory completely)
2. Started listening to music over headset with...
3. The Universal lying on the desk in front of you completely still 50cm from your face
4. You sitting completely still
5. No WiFi on close to you.
...this test is completely overkill...but if it STILL stutters in that "controlled scenario"...well then it must be something different with your Universal or headset HW. Cause I can walk around with my JasJar (also in areas I know there are 5-6 WiFi connections active...like my appartment), and even put the JasJar on the table and walk 5-10 meters away from it...and have no or at least nothing more than an "occational stutter"/"lag".
It seems to be two major factors affecting this "stuttering"/"lag" (from my experiences at least...I have used A2DP a lot with my Universal...couple of hours every day);
1. Universal struggling outputting(RAM/CPU...or both!?)
One help here is to apply the registry "A2DP priority" fix (found it in the forums here).
Another is to close all programs before using it (I usually do not do this...I usually only do it in hindsight when I get the problem).
2. Signal between Universal and headset struggling (obstructions between Universal and headset, WiFi nearby, so forth)
I for example get this problem if I put my Universal in my trouser pocket (I know, I must have big pockets, and walk around, I get stuttering/lag occationally. If I then take it out, and hold it in my hand farily still when I walk...no stuttering. I have found, that when I walk, it is OK to have it in my backpack/rugsack...then for some reason it very rearly stutters...so I usually do that.
But when I walk of the bus at work, and walk into the "campus" of my workplace, which is cramped with radiotransmitters (is norways largest Telecom company)...I get a lot of stuttering, and need to take it out of backpack, and hold it in my hand, at it gets a lot better.
In short: A2DP with the Universal works, but is sensitive to disturbance/obstructions/moving around...and to make it worse, it is also sometimes dependant of the Universal itself struggling with CPU/RAM.
I have BTW had the exact same problems before with Qtek2020 and Qtek9090 (which I got hold of some "A2DP patches", when I had those devices). ...but I really had a LOT more stuttering with those two...so much so, that I never used A2DP with them on a daily basis.
...so it can seem that HTC is getting slightly better on each new device...?
Hope this info can be of some use!
...but it might not...if my assumption at the beginning here is wrong, and your "stuttering"-issue is something completely different than the "lag"-issue I talk about!?
Hi there,
I hope i am posting in the right category, if not, mods pls move it.
I have a HTC p3300 loaded with B&B4.1 ( Thanks tom & pof!) and paired with my first ever bluetooth headset ( SE hbh-ds980). I received numerous complains from the party other end stating they can barely hear me ( voice comes out soft and low). If i move the mic literally close to the mouth,, then it gets better. If I speak directly i.e no bluetooth ( phone builtin mic) they can hear me fine. I made sure both the volume controls ( incall and speaker volume ) are set at max and even played with Mic AGC setting and still no luck.
At first i thought i bought a knock-off ds980. But here's a kicker though, when i paired it with my backup phone ( nokia 6230b) and tried calling them. They can hear me loud and clear ( almost eqvt to w/o bluetooth).
So i am guessing it has to do something my HTC phone now. For the life of me , I cannot find any mic related settings in wm6 besides the mic AGC. So here I am asking this humble community if there's any registry tweaks that can be made to boost the microphone? I would be grateful to any1 who comes up with a solution. I am not even sure what to do now..get rid of the ds980 or not
I have the same problem with Bluetrek X2 HF, I guess this may be problem with some part of Artemis HW, because it is'n ROM dependent. I have tride this HF with HTC original ROM, BB3.7, BB4, BB4.1, Meschles ROMs and now using Fracoons beta2, but this problem stil remains...
you are right, its independent of the ROM.. I believe it has something to do with the bluetooth stack on our artemis.
Anyways, i am in the process of selling mine. Now should I try another DS980 or go for the DS970?
Where can you control the volume of the mic on the TP2 ?
My phone is completely mute (I can hear people but they don't hear me)and though I suspect a Hardware defect (I flashed 2 ROMs and have the same problem) but I would like to play with the microphone settings just in case...
I know when I ran across that problem on the Kaiser ROMs I flashed, it was usually due to an incompatible radio. Try a different radio than the one you're using. It took me several times to find a good radio for a couple of the more Popular ROMs.
One thing I've noticed is ROM flashes can be a real trial and error process to get a good mix of speed, functionality and battery life between the ROM and Radio.
Just my $.02 on the subject...
mmh maybe... But I didnt flash anyhting new, the issue on the Mic happened overnight on a ROM I have had for already quite a while
Anyway: anybody can explain me where I can control the microphone sound level ?
I tried flashing a new Radio. The sound worked once for one call
And then doing a second call --> not working anymore
Seems that if I take off my SIM card and put it back it also works for one call and then fails again. That is very weird. Could be a hardware issue but I ma surprised it works at least once
I flashed different ROMs and radios and still have the issue (Anyway the problem occured while I had been on the same ROM for already a while so I would have been surprised if it came from it)
I start to be tired with HTC's quality... It's not the first time an HTC dies on me (That said it's probably the smae with otehr phoen makers, many of my friends had to ahve their iPhone replaced)
Aaahh it's going to take Expansys 2 months again before I can have a phone
Anybody with similar problems ?
Must be the mic
A bluetooth headset works...
Hi all
One minor issue a few people have noted with the Desire is the low default volume. I particularly notice this on the 3.5mm out - when plugged into my car I have to have the stereo seriously cranked to get a decent volume.
None of the ROMs currently floating around have mentioned that they've increased the default or maximum volumes - I recall this being possible from the G1, does anyone know if it is for the Desire? If so, which ROMs have it implemented?
Cheers
Phil
Have you tried downloaing "Volume Control" from the App Market?
There's a few apps called Volume Control:
http://www.androlib.com/android.application.com-roy-volumecontrol-Aqmj.aspx
http://www.androlib.com/android.application.com-android-trystania-volumecontrol-jptq.aspx
http://www.androlib.com/android.application.vol-qwmn.aspx
http://www.androlib.com/android.application.com-revsodev-volumecontrol-zFqC.aspx
I tried the first one and it showed my media and system volume already at the maximum. Was it one of the others?
Cheers
Phil
The volume cant be adusted for the desire at the moment mate;(
JD
Boooooooooo
Cheers for the info though. I'll just keep cranking the stereo and freaking myself out if I switch to CD
Have you tryed louder volume hack ?
Louder Volume Hacks works fine for me, at least with my bluetooth headset
I was under the impression only the T-Mobile ROM had its volume reduced due to some EU regulations and people who flashed the stock ROM had much improved volume. Why wouldn't the cooked ROMs also have standard levels?
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I was under the impression only the T-Mobile ROM had its volume reduced due to some EU regulations and people who flashed the stock ROM had much improved volume. Why wouldn't the cooked ROMs also have standard levels?
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I wish! I have an unlocked Desire i bought offline that also has low volume playback. It's a real pain!
I've fixed it
DJGibbon said:
Hi all
One minor issue a few people have noted with the Desire is the low default volume. I particularly notice this on the 3.5mm out - when plugged into my car I have to have the stereo seriously cranked to get a decent volume.
None of the ROMs currently floating around have mentioned that they've increased the default or maximum volumes - I recall this being possible from the G1, does anyone know if it is for the Desire? If so, which ROMs have it implemented?
Cheers
Phil
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My stock T-Mobile ROM had this problem (UK). Sounded awful on line-out from the headphone socket. The vanilla HTC rom doesn't suffer from this problem - it's fine. You'll need to make a goldcard and flash your device.
If the Vanilla ROM doesn't have the low volume problem then how about the Pays and other ROMs?
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If the Vanilla ROM doesn't have the low volume problem then how about the Pays and other ROMs?
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I have just moved from Touch HD to the HTC Desire I was supprised about low the level of sound output comparing the the HD.
Any hint to solve this will be more than welcome
Isn't it the Kernel that cause the problem like the Nexus ?!
landwomble said:
My stock T-Mobile ROM had this problem (UK). Sounded awful on line-out from the headphone socket. The vanilla HTC rom doesn't suffer from this problem - it's fine. You'll need to make a goldcard and flash your device.
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Cheers for the heads-up Señor Womble. If I'm going to flash, I'll probably root at the same time - I guess if it's just a T-Mobile thing then all the rooted roms will be based off stock and be louder too?
Should find out this weekend
i had the tmobile rom. the volume was very low. but even the generic HTC roms have the same problem. no improvement yet all. its waste of time flasing with a generic rom.
is there something like winmo registry to increase it output volume? or we need to wait for HTC?
Could always buy a headphone amp for £10. I have a Fiio E5, works very well.
Its true most mp3's or fm radio are in quite low volume. However I have some mp3's that play real loud. Believe me - I am a musician and I know what is loud - but these few tracks I cant play on full Desire volume without hurting my ears!
I use Sennheiser headphones and all the mp3's are from CD's converted in Itunes with same settings.
It looks like some tracks are not affected by the volume limit of Desire...
i had the tmobile rom. the volume was very low. but even the generic HTC roms have the same problem. no improvement yet all. its waste of time flasing with a generic rom.
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I would have to strongly disagree there. My experience is that it was 100% the fault of the T-Mobile ROM and the generic unbranded Virgin ROM solved my volume issues, as well as an issue I was having with my SD card.
Sorry, double post.
My opinion is that the bluetooth audio quality on the HTC Desire is terrible!
When playing music, in most of the tracks I hear clicking/crackling noise when some frequency/dB/something else is reached.
To illustrate what I mean, I have uploaded an audio fragment in which you can hear a similar noise.
Download fragment (MP3) Warning! it's drum n bass
You can hear the sound at the very beginning and at around 6 seconds (and at the end). As if a tweeter (speaker for higher frequencies) get overloaded.
I don't know if it is related to the phone's hardware, (radio) firmware or the Android OS. I've tried different music players, radio firmwares and custom roms. I also enabled an equalizer for bt audio using DSPManager. Unfortunately, nothing helped
edit: Using current versions of DeFoST or OpenDesire (and maybe others), the bt sound quality is how it should be! Fixed for me, but I hope an update from HTC will do the same.
Btw, this crackling/clicking is not only related to the HTC Desire, I have heard it on more (non-android) phones that were connected to my bt audio setup (in car). Unfortunately I haven't been able to test other Android phones, but my old Nokia N82 and SE K800i always sounded clear.
My guess is that it's just a non-controllable system setting of Android to solve the problem, but I don't know where (config/settings files?) to search for BT audio settings.
Any ideas?
That's the typical audio quality of a mediocre A2DP device: give a try at a Sony Ericsson MW-600 headset, you'll see what an Hi-Fi Bluetooth device is.
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That's the typical audio quality of a mediocre A2DP device: give a try at a Sony Ericsson MW-600 headset, you'll see what an Hi-Fi Bluetooth device is.
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I'm running Defrost rom now and the sound quality is perfect, how it should be! So, it's not related to the audio device, or the default settings/drivers of the Desire are "too good" for my audio device (Pioneer BT unit @ car audio), which I think is not the case, since I also had this noise on my Logitech Pure-Fi.
@ngel said:
That's the typical audio quality of a mediocre A2DP device: give a try at a Sony Ericsson MW-600 headset, you'll see what an Hi-Fi Bluetooth device is.
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Actually I recently owned this headsert but the quality of the sound was still terrible. I thought it was a problem with the headset at first, but that is not the case. I returned it and bought a Jabra BT3030 and the problem still persists. Anyone know if this is actually a problem with the phone or is it software related? I can add that I don't hear these noises when streaming audio through e.g. the youtube app, only mp3 and it doesn't matter which player I use (I've tried loads).
I have the jabra dogtags, audio playback sounds exactly the same as when my headphones are plugged in direct (tested it several times, culd not tell the difference), except that I have a louder volume via the jabra, which is all good as I listen to drum and bass also. Mabey device fault?
It is software related. Using current DeFroST or OpenDesire roms (and maybe others), bluetooth audio is great
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I have the jabra dogtags, audio playback sounds exactly the same as when my headphones are plugged in direct (tested it several times, culd not tell the difference), except that I have a louder volume via the jabra, which is all good as I listen to drum and bass also. Mabey device fault?
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well if it would've been device fault you'd think that I'd hear that noise through youtube streams as well.
But yeah as tutti-frutti stated it might be a software issue, which points me towards a root. But since I'd rather not root atm, anyone knows any other solution?
Might try a hard reset first and hope for the best. I will get back to you on that .
Thank you so much for describing my problem!!
I am currently downloading OpenDesire. Just in case that it does not work, where do i find DeFost??? I can't find it on the Market.
Thanks again!
I have Samsung Epic 4g.
nope Desire's Bluetooth audio quality is good in fact Awesome..!!
-May be the problem is not with the phone, its with Bluetooth head set you are using.
-My suggestion is to use Nokia or Motorola A2DP Stereo head phones
-I'm using Motorola motorkr S9 hd ,,,its awesome..!!
-Try this ,,it might work
harish.awe said:
nope Desire's Bluetooth audio quality is good in fact Awesome..!!
-May be the problem is not with the phone, its with Bluetooth head set you are using.
-My suggestion is to use Nokia or Motorola A2DP Stereo head phones
-I'm using Motorola motorkr S9 hd ,,,its awesome..!!
-Try this ,,it might work
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For me, it is an issue with my car, not headphones.
A little UP!
Having the same issues with a Nokia BH-504 headset. Music quality is poor with every Sense ROM (original, rooted, Sense HD, whatever), sound like the tweeters are overloaded.
Definetly not a problem with the headset, it sound perfect with HTC Legend.
Tried to switch to non-Sense ROM (DeFrost, OpenDesire, etc.). The quality is perfect, but music play stops every 1-2 minutes for a second. Very irritating. Anyone experienced this? Is this a problem with my Desire, should I send it for warranty? (Don't want to send without enough evidence, don't wanna be without a phone for weeks...)
Okay, update: Tested the new Gingerbread AOSP and still having these stops at 2-3 minutes. Very strange...
Anyone any idea? Can I debug the bluetooth transfer somehow? Logcat didn't really show anything... Can it be a fault of the phone?
Chapell said:
Anyone any idea? Can I debug the bluetooth transfer somehow? Logcat didn't really show anything... Can it be a fault of the phone?
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You need an sd r/w-buffer fix in kernel to stop that. I don't know if it comes with any senseless rom though. Maybe you could try the lite version of baadnewz hd rom.
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You need an sd r/w-buffer fix in kernel to stop that. I don't know if it comes with any senseless rom though. Maybe you could try the lite version of baadnewz hd rom.
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Thanks, I'll look into it. But if that's the problem, it would affect music playback with wired headphones too, isn't it?
And with Sense ROMs I have the overloaded tweeter-like problem, but no stutters. With non-Sense ROMs I have beautiful audio quality but music stops for a second randomly.
Update: Checked Aura ROM with sdfix, no problem with stuttering, but still the overloaded high-frequency problem. Meanwhile I checked that this SD fix is available only for Sense ROMs because it's HTC's hacking, the AOSP versions have no SD problems.
Oh, good lord! I was nearly to believe that I'm some sort of audiophile!
I'm using Plantronics 903 with my Desire and sound quality is just OK (I'm using SENSE ROM, will try OpenDesire in a bit). However, I cannot say I was expecting more.
What funny is happened today: I paired my 903 with PC today - sound quality was nearly same like my Desire, then I noticed someting in Bluetooth Setting Panel of PC. There was a combo box which labeled as "Audio Quality" and it was at the "Low" setting. I switched it "High Quality" and reconnected the device and voila! The sound has been thousands of times better!
Now I'm wondering if such a switch is also available in Desire? Maybe not obvious, but a Kernel variable perhaps? Damn that I don't know a sh** about programming these devices :'(
EDIT : Funny - I think that setting was not of PC's, but Headset's! It's quite well right now! And I didn't even try OpenDesire yet!
Chapell said:
A little UP!
Having the same issues with a Nokia BH-504 headset. Music quality is poor with every Sense ROM (original, rooted, Sense HD, whatever), sound like the tweeters are overloaded.
Definetly not a problem with the headset, it sound perfect with HTC Legend.
Tried to switch to non-Sense ROM (DeFrost, OpenDesire, etc.). The quality is perfect, but music play stops every 1-2 minutes for a second. Very irritating. Anyone experienced this? Is this a problem with my Desire, should I send it for warranty? (Don't want to send without enough evidence, don't wanna be without a phone for weeks...)
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I have similar sound issues on non-sense roms. I believe it's mostly to do with range is just not quite as good as with sense based roms. I haven't had time to really figure out why yet.
Okay, so they replaced my Nokia BH-504 headset with a new one, still the same issue with Desire Sense ROMs but Legend Sense is still good. So it's not an issue with the headset (well, could be a general incompatibility problem, but I don't think so) Will check my laptop and a Gingerbread ROM on the Desire. Okay, conclusion after further tests with the replaced headset:
with Desire Sense ROMs: horrible quality in the high frequencies with every MP3.
with Desire non-Sense ROMs (OpenDesire, Gingerbred, etc): Good quality, but music play stops for a secons every 1-2 minutes.
with HP TouchSmart TM2 notebook: Quality problem AND music sutter BOTH
with HTC Legend original Froyo ROM: No problem
with Sony Ericsson X8: No problem
with HTC Touch HD: Quality problem
The headset has been replaced with a new one, same errors occur.
I have no idea what's wrong. I can't believe 2 phone's and a notebook's Bluetooth chip is faulty. So this could be an incompatiblity, hooray for great Bluetooth standard specification I should try a Nokia BH-905 and a Sennheiser MM400, will try them after buy (in the store!) and hand them immediately back if there will be a problem with them
Chapell, I have the same problem as you, with the Nokia BH-504 headset. So far the headset works great with the stock ROM, LeeDroid ROMs or just about any Froyo ROM. Gingerbread-based ROMs or Cyanogen nightlies, or any of the AdamG's Oxygen ROMS, on the other hand, they all have the same issue - every 90 seconds or so there is a glitch, the audio stream skips for half a second or so - very, very annoying keeps you from getting in the mood.
My observations: it is not SD card related, youtube video with the audio part streamd through the bluetooth headset also skips (also tried an SD read-ahead zip patch - no change); also, the glitch doesn't manifest using wired headphones; it has nothing to do with CPU spikes (the music player and the BT connection were the only open applications after a fresh ROM install); it has nothing to do with WiFi being on or off; it has nothing to do with 3G/2G network being active or not, or the GPS; using a different radio also doesn't help (scenario - radio X used with N.S.A. ROM -> no glitch; the same radio used with Oxygen 2.0 RC7 -> glitch)...
My guess - as noobish as it may be - is that this issue is related to some kind of buffering in the streaming process - I compared a few bluetooth configuration files in various ROMs, but couldn't figure any setting related to buffering or such.
If anyone could help, I would be very grateful!
Thanks for the info. If I understand correctly, you had no problems with BH-504 using Sense ROMs. So no high frequency distortion, nothing. This means that my phone is definetly faulty
However it seems the non-Sense skips are not unique for me. Strange, no one uses a BT headset with non-Sense ROMs or it could be a problem only with the BH-504?