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Hi everybody
I have the main question - what are the main advantages of WM6.1 comparing to WM6.0.
Is WM6.1 worth enought for change if we says about so many mystakes in it?
Sorry fo my english.
Bigfoot
I'm interested too, and what about Battery usage & Speed (memory usage) ?
thanks
There´s quite a few threads with the same question and the answer is usually the same....Try the roms out.
To me is kind of rude when someone says"this one is better than that one" or stuff like that,because these rom cooks are using their time just for us and they don´t deserve those comparisons.....so like I said give different roms a shot and compare yourself.
bigfoot said:
Hi everybody
I have the main question - what are the main advantages of WM6.1 comparing to WM6.0.
Is WM6.1 worth enought for change if we says about so many mystakes in it?
Sorry fo my english.
Bigfoot
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WM 6.1. can be managed from System Center Mobile Device Center (see http://www.microsoft.com/systemcenter/mobile/default.mspx). Thta's a big advantage for the large compagnies
The bluetooth pairing doesn't need the password 0000 toggled in.
Memory & battery usage are still the same.
Going back to WM6
bigfoot said:
Hi everybody
I have the main question - what are the main advantages of WM6.1 comparing to WM6.0.
Is WM6.1 worth enought for change if we says about so many mystakes in it?
Sorry fo my english.
Bigfoot
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After many efforts to work with WM6.1 and with my apps I finally gave up: for the indevidual (and not companies) there still many bugs comparing to the stable WM6: annoying soft-reset, many apps are well integraded with WM6.1 etc.
Sorry, but I do not see how WM6.1 is better than WM6.
but are any of the roms real 6.1...or just lookie likey?????
i have been using PDAVIET 3.08.61.29WWE and it is excellent. I have many apps loaded and have not encountered a single problem. This rom is blazing fast and supports everything i have thrown at. 6.1 has been perfect for me i dont have any problems as i read. i literally install 1 to 2 apps per day and not a single issue. before this i was using FInixNOver WM6.1 and same thing not a single problem.
in fact, i was looking for WM6.1 because i wanted a new GUI ... but microsoft appears to be as same as always ... just sells us old **** that hadn't changed since Windows Mobile 2003 ... poorly unacceptable ... like microsoft ... like always ... i'm just fed up with theses poors OSs, i hope the iPhone2 will get out soon, i will sell my trinity as soon as i can and get this really GOOD device !
there will never be improvements on WM from microsoft for a long time, everyone will have to wait until at least 1 year before seeing the first devices coming with WM7, so i prefer going to a brand that do good human-machine interfaces, and the iPhone is doing really good !
why would we have to stay to WM ?! the iPhone do the Exchange Sync ... i just don't understand anymore microsoft ...
Question about pocket excell and word
I red somewhere that WM 6.1 pocket word and excell documents are in PC full format and for WM6.0 this format is only pocket. Is that true?
To Simkand
Hi
Iphone ? ha ha ha ha
It's so buggy and you need itunes to use it .......
If you want another interface, try ifonz or another one available here
I use now WM6.1 on 3 devices : a trinity, a blue angel and a smartphone : so far so good
And I am not a big fan of Bill !
iPhone
I bought two 8 Gig iPhones the first day they came out. One for myself, and one for my wife. The very next day, I returned mine (10% return charge).
My wife loves it because it's VERY simple to use, and you cannot mess things up easily. But for me, you have to HACK the PISS out of it to get it to do ANYTHING! It's network is dog slow, no MMS, no GPS, no SD slot, no programs to install, (untill I hacked it), it crashes more often than my WM6 devices, JOBS Locks it down every chance he gets, iTunes SUCKS and crashes Windows! I will admit, the screen and the multi-touch is impressive! It makes a GREAT iPod, but a usable communications tool, it's not.
Even with all the hacks on it, it still does not compare to WM6. WM has litterally thousands of software programs you can use freely for just about anything. I'm sure in time, the iPhone will get closer, but for now, not for me.
My biggest pet peeve was the fact that my appointments would not show up on the main screen when I first turn it on. That's something I insist on with my WM phone.
If you want a great TOY with a fantastic screen, then it's fine.
i think differences are only little.. part of it is the sms system. 6.1 transform sms system into some kind of a chat window. well this is quite good considering it is easier to read the history messages
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in fact, i was looking for WM6.1 because i wanted a new GUI ...
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Why not trying the new SPB Mobile Shell 2.0?
I am very happy with this.
I apologize for getting side tracked.
iPhone does have a great GUI, it's just locked down making it hard to modify, at least for now.
You are right, WM 6.1 GUI is basically the same. Thanks Bill!
WM 6.1 adds the threaded SMS as mentioned before. It IS slower, but I prefer this layout.
The task manager now shows a LOT more information including running processes, memory consumption, & CPU consumption.
I'm not having any of the problems reported by other users (ie: program incompatibilities, crashes, bluetooth, activesync, etc...), so it's MUCH quicker running on my phone.
Bluetooth is Much more reliable, and simple to hook up (0000 is automatic).
Browsing in File Explorer is Much Quicker.
It might just be me, but my speaker phone seems a bit louder.
Managed Programs as mentioned by Stingray66.
Wireless Lan seems to have less trouble for me. Stays connected without having to set it up constantly.
Just my experiences.
6.1 is perfect for my Trinity, RAM memory avalaible about 25 Mb, A2DP is perfect and direct, without password, multitasking in best way.-
I don´t like the easy touch interface, but in fact, with SPB pocket plus interface is working perfect and with your own custom interface.-
I can see youtube and flash videos, no problem with video and audio files and 100% compatible with Corecodec media player.-
In my own opinion is the best OS for my trinity.-
Thanks Landy.-
cecrops said:
i have been using PDAVIET 3.08.61.29WWE and it is excellent. I have many apps loaded and have not encountered a single problem. This rom is blazing fast and supports everything i have thrown at. 6.1 has been perfect for me i dont have any problems as i read. i literally install 1 to 2 apps per day and not a single issue. before this i was using FInixNOver WM6.1 and same thing not a single problem.
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I agree and .NET 3.5 can be added too. With the tool of Modaco (.NET Configuration) it's possible to switch between .NET versions and even configure the version for each application.
simkard said:
in fact, i was looking for WM6.1 because i wanted a new GUI ... but microsoft appears to be as same as always ... just sells us old **** that hadn't changed since Windows Mobile 2003 ... poorly unacceptable ... like microsoft ... like always ... i'm just fed up with theses poors OSs, i hope the iPhone2 will get out soon, i will sell my trinity as soon as i can and get this really GOOD device !
there will never be improvements on WM from microsoft for a long time, everyone will have to wait until at least 1 year before seeing the first devices coming with WM7, so i prefer going to a brand that do good human-machine interfaces, and the iPhone is doing really good !
why would we have to stay to WM ?! the iPhone do the Exchange Sync ... i just don't understand anymore microsoft ...
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Microsoft Mobile NOOB, too much alcohol or just talking bull****?
Ignore this guy ....
bigfoot said:
I red somewhere that WM 6.1 pocket word and excell documents are in PC full format and for WM6.0 this format is only pocket. Is that true?
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No, WM6 can have integrated Office 6.1 too.
mbon said:
i think differences are only little.. part of it is the sms system. 6.1 transform sms system into some kind of a chat window. well this is quite good considering it is easier to read the history messages
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Yep, threaded SMS ... another advantage of WM 6.1
Hi.
What are you all talking about. There is no official WM6.1 for Trinity, all this ROM - is home made. This is just vinaigrette, mess of different ROM, as well as WM6.
hi
is there a vanilla wm 6.1 rom ?
searched but couldnt find one
In my oppinion, WM_6.1_v.3.0-L is the most vanilla out there, and it's extremely stable. That's why I use it. You can add what you need after Flashing this one. NO HOME, NO TOUCHFLO, etc... I love it!
I've added my own calculator, media player, etc....
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In my oppinion, WM_6.1_v.3.0-L is the most vanilla out there, and it's extremely stable. That's why I use it. You can add what you need after Flashing this one. NO HOME, NO TOUCHFLO, etc... I love it!
I've added my own calculator, media player, etc....
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thanks for the answer !!! and not flaming
No problem. There's a big difference between "what's your favorite?" and "is there a vanilla rom?". I'd love to see an even MORE vanilla rom cooked, but have not seen one yet. I would like to cook my own, but have not been able to understand it yet. Still trying. If i accomplish it, I will definately post it.
I'd like to see a stripped down version of JUST the WM 6.1 OS just like Microsoft made it. NO extras. That way when updated add-ons come up, you can uninstall and reinstall updates. ie: HTC Home, Cube, Network Wizard, X-Button, etc... And you don't have to disable the things you don't want but still have them consuming space on your device. ie: HTC Home, Cube, etc...
Like I say, WM_6.1_v.3.0-L is about as close as I've been able to find so far, and it's stable.
Good luck!
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No problem. There's a big difference between "what's your favorite?" and "is there a vanilla rom?". I'd love to see an even MORE vanilla rom cooked, but have not seen one yet. I would like to cook my own, but have not been able to understand it yet. Still trying. If i accomplish it, I will definately post it.
I'd like to see a stripped down version of JUST the WM 6.1 OS just like Microsoft made it. NO extras. That way when updated add-ons come up, you can uninstall and reinstall updates. ie: HTC Home, Cube, Network Wizard, X-Button, etc... And you don't have to disable the things you don't want but still have them consuming space on your device. ie: HTC Home, Cube, etc...
Like I say, WM_6.1_v.3.0-L is about as close as I've been able to find so far, and it's stable.
Good luck!
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Try SL Mary 6.1 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=369917
Why don't cook a ROM with TOUCHFLO2D? Our Diamond could be faster!
Yeah this sounds like a good idea! I would personally prefer a blazing fugging fast 1.93 2D ROM than a sluggish 1.93 3D ROM... (Black Diamond theme of course )
i agree with you...
i use a ROM without TF3d (french Diamondstone rom) and i install Opal version of TF2d (found on this forum) and it work very fine, much faster tan the 3d version
maybe someone can try to cook this way.
it looks good on your device? since its qvga... or did someone edit it to work on vga?
o yar a faster diamond
just what i need..
the 3d is nice and all.. but after a while.. gets tired looking at it.. and besides the 2d version aint that bad...
and the analog clock is so much cooler...
Is there a VGA Version out?? I thought only for QVGA devices
I think 3d is fast enough and great for day-to-day usability?
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I think 3d is fast enough and great for day-to-day usability?
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Not with every Rom, so 2d is much faster.
RideTheTube said:
Is there a VGA Version out?? I thought only for QVGA devices
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Here's a VGA version. It's uncluding some bugs, but enough to try it.
You need to install the TFLO 2D version 0.9 or older!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=429224
You can edit the xml file and the images to customize.
I'm using it about 3 days.
avers said:
Here's a VGA version. It's uncluding some bugs, but enough to try it.
You need to install the TFLO 2D version 0.9 or older!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=429224
You can edit the xml file and the images to customize.
I'm using it about 3 days.
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thanks a lot bro!
It would be great to have ROM with TF2D! it will result in much faster diamond, extra stogare and memory.
hope one of our great developers will work on it.
cheers.
Faster perhaps. More boring and a step backwards, definitely! With so many super-quick ROMS for tf3d (Swift, Swtos etc), why would anyone want to do this? Too much time on your hands? ;-)
simcarloc said:
Faster perhaps. More boring and a step backwards, definitely! With so many super-quick ROMS for tf3d (Swift, Swtos etc), why would anyone want to do this? Too much time on your hands? ;-)
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Because different people have different preference. Some prefer snappy performance before eyecandy, tf2d over tf3d, windows xp over vista...
While the new cooked ROMs definetly are faster than stock, the same cooked ROM with tf2d instead would be even faster while offering the same functionality.
The ultimate ROM!
losdrivare said:
Because different people have different preference. Some prefer snappy performance before eyecandy, tf2d over tf3d, windows xp over vista...
While the new cooked ROMs definetly are faster than stock, the same cooked ROM with tf2d instead would be even faster while offering the same functionality.
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I agree completely! With that kind of speed (like with the tf2d) this ui would be an IPhone killer...
The only thing I am wondering about is, that nobody (as far as I have seen) yet inlcuded a proper SMS (only) Tool (like in iContacts, but without the contacts), because the WM5 version is indiscribably bad..
To bring it to a point (and I hope this is not too far off this topic): Why has nobody yet created a rom that comes standard with S2U2 installed and something like iContact (which directly replaces all the WM5 contacts and the links i.e. from tf3d / tf2d) and a Programs/settings views like in iPhonez(but only that part not the whole iPhonez, we want a killer, not a copy!). and last but not least something like a proper touch-fileexplorer like resco explorer2008(i simply mean the size of the file entries and a little revamping of the original fileexplorer, maybe there is one already?)
If a ROM like that would be put together well (and one of these capable cooks are able to include these tools much deeper and better than when a user installs them into the ROM) we could finally beat the iPhone! (I know its not about beating the iphone, but fact is that the diamond has one nice tf3d tool on top of the same old WM5 which in its original rom is slaggishly slow and is then supposed to beat the well thought through iPhone?? Of course not! there is no alternative that brings the same quality of UI - YET, BUT:
All these great programmers that took their time to create good apps (like iPhonez, iContact, ThumpCal, S2U2, etc..) if (and I know it probably is a challenge to get their agreement to put their stuff in a rom) this would be put togethere into one well made rom, the diamond would be unbeatable!!!!!!
Then get this ROM a bit known as the iphone-killer and this will be picked up in the public a bit more.. finally it could turn out that all these nice programmers get a big bunch of money so that their stuff or a version of it will be used as a permanent part of a stock rom and we all are happy because we will have the best phone ever, made by the people for the people! WHAT A VISION! and its realistic, too! Let's go and use the synergy of all the great cooks and developers and create the SUPER-ROM!!!!
I am ready to pay good developer 50USD to include the existing tools into a personalized ROM, just to have something that prooves the idea and convince the guys to give their permission. (and also to have that myself! )
So who wants the ultimate ROM!!
avers can u give us all the edited files of the tf2d vga u are using ? thanks
avers said:
Here's a VGA version. It's uncluding some bugs, but enough to try it.
You need to install the TFLO 2D version 0.9 or older!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=429224
You can edit the xml file and the images to customize.
I'm using it about 3 days.
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Where can I find this VGA skin (the one in the attached thumnail)
Thank you
I am a bit of a newb to the hermes and was wondering what is the best/most stable rom for wm6.?? (I'm on orange UK by the way)
Would appreciate any opinions and links to the roms.
I have spent ages reading through various posts but keep getting lost/confused.
I have done the hard spl upgrade and have a sd card ready for the upgrade. Now it's the big question of which rom.
Would like one that is ready to go with most of the basics already there rather than one of the really lite ones I think, but not sure which would be best ?
I probably should say it's an M3100
Thanks in advance....steve
Which one that is best for you, might not be the one that is best for someone else. Each cook has their own style.
Try several, I would suggest CRC's, Tai's, Josh's, or kareme's
You really will have to try several to see what fits you best.
I have not tried any of the 6.5 roms out, mainly because it seems there are still bugs to be worked out.
Don't bother with WM6
There's not really that significant a jump from WM5 - and you can get an official WM6 ROM!
IMHO 6.1 is the way to go, for now...
Spoiler Alert!!
Umm.. I've been trying the WM 6.5 Version XXX76 from Tai... I am mighty impressed... I thot it'd need lots of ram to keep 6.5 running.. this is fast man... 6.5 though there are no paradigm shifts from 5,6 or 6.1... even the beta seems better that 6.1...
currently my rnaking would be
1. 6.5 ( I am liking waht I am seeing.. this is the speed king... 76 fro TAI is stable as any other ROM)
2. 6 (faster... than most of the other Versions and not plain as 5
3. 6.1 (lots of fixes on this but slow.. slow...slow)
WARNING!!:
once you go 6.5 u can't go back!!
joshkoss said:
WARNING!!:
once you go 6.5 u can't go back!!
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What do you mean? I tried 6.5, didn't like it and flashed 6.1. Without any problems.
joshkoss said:
WARNING!!:
once you go 6.5 u can't go back!!
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thanks josh... for your warning...
There are 2 new 6.5 ROMs worth trying
I just bought a 8525 for $125 USD. It's awesome. I first settled on one of Schap's ROMS - Schaps_WM6Pro_Hermes_4.31_WWE_Full.
It was really nice but now it is sadly behind the times. There are 2 new 6.5 ROMs worth trying:
1 21189_Lite_V9_Update1
2 21193_Lite_V10
I installed the 1st and stopped there because it is so awesome. The Hermes no longer has to hide in the shadows of all the new $600 Pda/phones out there.
One thing about 6.5 is that there is no "programs" section per se in the titanium feature(?). So I went to a SPBplus4 Today Screen.
It's much more convenient for accessing fexplorer and task mgr.I did do an auto hide on the tabs and minimized the icons so it would look like one of the newer phones. Appreciate all the hard work everyone put in.
My ROM request (if anyone's interested) is for a full featured 6.5 -something like K's ROM with TAI's finesse dominating - BUT without IE or OFFICE or WM built in. I am surprised all the great cooks include these. I have found Skyfire, TCPMP work great and I don't need Office at all.
And the START MENU sections on the 6.5 should go directly to the same categories as before except more like :
Programs, SYSTEM Settings, Connection Settings, Personal Settings, TODAY settings, TOOLS (regedit, fexplore, taskmgr), GAMES, PICTURES, VIDEOS, MUSIC, AND the option to add or customize your own AND be able to have it show before Programs, and stay there after a SR!
I am a newbie but I know what I want. Thanks again to all the cooks for making carrying a phone everywhere exciting and useful and for showing the big companies how to really do it. They keep putting out these improved ROMs (performance-wise) but they have no idea what to do with them.
Jupiter and Titan from AZ USA.
I am also trying to figure out how to automatically add my apps from the SD card after a HR. Autorun or something like that. Anyone know of a thread that shows a newbie how to do it?
bailey7 said:
I am also trying to figure out how to automatically add my apps from the SD card after a HR. Autorun or something like that. Anyone know of a thread that shows a newbie how to do it?
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Here you go: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=366337
I am still using binky11 as it was 5 or six month,,so stable,,,,
I love manilla2d, but it is not stable until right now
thanks
Try Josh M2D ROM..
Its nice, fast and stable
thanks JOsh
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What do you mean? I tried 6.5, didn't like it and flashed 6.1. Without any problems.
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once you go 6.5 u can't go back!!
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Yes Josh what do you mean?? i've also downgrade back to WM 6.
I've tried your WM 6.5 Its great but for now im looking forward for the hybrid rom.
I personally like Tai_SW's 21109 rom. It seems to be really stable though that could be because its a hybrid WM6.1/WM6.5 rom.
Have 2 Hermes, on my main I use 21109 but test others on my "spare"...
I don't tend to like the Hex or titanium roms as the RAM is low and storage space seems to abot 45Mb or less while I use about 50 Mb for the apps I like. I need to have as much RAM as possible too so I don't end up with system freezes when I run a REALLY RAM hungry app.
Cheers...
binky11 is the most stable ever, but it will be the perfect rom when manill2d them inside.
PERFECT
thanks
Tai_SW's wm6.1 lite roms are superb, fast, stable, & lot's of free memory!!
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Yes Josh what do you mean?? i've also downgrade back to WM 6.
I've tried your WM 6.5 Its great but for now im looking forward for the hybrid rom.
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Josh meant that WM6.5 is great and once you've tried it, you don't want to back to 6.1 anymore
I use DarkWinter2 from Josh and it works fine for me.
PDAViet DVH_V27... I have tried other ROMS - some of them really nice, but there was always something, which made me to go back to DVH_V27.. too bad this guy does not cook for hermes anymore..
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Josh meant that WM6.5 is great and once you've tried it, you don't want to back to 6.1 anymore
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Not neccesary. I tried one day 6.5 Josh rom (GS or else edition), but it was lagging, so I re-flased it the same day. Now I'm using Josh V15 colored 3G and is wonderful
Hello all!
I am just coming off of using a Tilt for 3 years, and finally it died. In my opinion, it was the best phone I ever owned. I had high expectations for this new tilt2, but alas - when it arrived, I was dismayed at all of the crapware, levels of junk, and the lack of ability to control what icons I see on the start menu (which looks like someone vomited icons all over the screen - no organization to them at all - I have to dig 3 menus deep just to find file explorer, and FORGET about the wireless manager! It's hopeless!
Why oh why have they taken away the customization that made WM great?
On my old Tilt, I simply ran the stock rom, and did the reset to avoid all the att crapware, for a plain vanilla WM5 device. I then ran Kaisertweak, and HTC Home customizer. It ran whatever apps I threw at it, and ran them well.
My only complaint would be that compared to the iphone, the apps look and feel clunkier, but as I said, they worked very well, so who cares? Even the freeware Opera browser worked well, if inferior to Safari - but not terrible.
Is there any way to make this one look and act like that? What I wouldnt give for it to run WM5, I swear...
I have owned: Casiopea e150, dell x3, dell x5, royaltech PPC w/ gps, Eten M600, Glofiish X500, ATT 8125, ATT tilt, Iphone 2g, Iphone 3g, and now this.
I am not afraid of tweaking, although I dislike 'cooked' roms - Id rather fix a clean factory release.
Of all of those, the (old) Tilt was my woobee. I might just see if I can find another one somewhere. I like the new screen, and the fact it can play xvid movies without a recode, but damn...is it worth it? I'm afraid to put any software on this thing, because I might never find it again!
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Hello all!
I am just coming off of using a Tilt for 3 years, and finally it died. In my opinion, it was the best phone I ever owned. I had high expectations for this new tilt2, but alas - when it arrived, I was dismayed at all of the crapware, levels of junk, and the lack of ability to control what icons I see on the start menu (which looks like someone vomited icons all over the screen - no organization to them at all - I have to dig 3 menus deep just to find file explorer, and FORGET about the wireless manager! It's hopeless!
Why oh why have they taken away the customization that made WM great?
On my old Tilt, I simply ran the stock rom, and did the reset to avoid all the att crapware, for a plain vanilla WM5 device. I then ran Kaisertweak, and HTC Home customizer. It ran whatever apps I threw at it, and ran them well.
My only complaint would be that compared to the iphone, the apps look and feel clunkier, but as I said, they worked very well, so who cares? Even the freeware Opera browser worked well, if inferior to Safari - but not terrible.
Is there any way to make this one look and act like that? What I wouldnt give for it to run WM5, I swear...
I have owned: Casiopea e150, dell x3, dell x5, royaltech PPC w/ gps, Eten M600, Glofiish X500, ATT 8125, ATT tilt, Iphone 2g, Iphone 3g, and now this.
I am not afraid of tweaking, although I dislike 'cooked' roms - Id rather fix a clean factory release.
Of all of those, the (old) Tilt was my woobee. I might just see if I can find another one somewhere. I like the new screen, and the fact it can play xvid movies without a recode, but damn...is it worth it? I'm afraid to put any software on this thing, because I might never find it again!
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Best advice I can offer sense you dont really want a cooked rom is to grab a Program like Total commander and remove the icons you dont want and rearrange it anyway you would like
How about this: can someone point me to a plain vanilla WM6.1 (if that will work) or a WM6.5 ROM and maybe a few device driver cabs?
Oh, and by the way - I hate the 70's flipdown clock. I wish I could at choose how that looks. My god...the WM developers have now painted themselves into a corner!
*grumble grumble*
Subterran-
I think you may be overreacting a bit. I don't understand, with all of your device experience, why you aren't willing to find a cooked ROM that suits your needs and just slap it on there.
I tried the stock HTC ROM from here, http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Rhodium/Shipped_Roms, and found it to be a good alternative.
There are programs to change the interface, i.e. SPB Mobile Shell, which will let you get rid of what seems to be your biggest complaint.. There are programs to do just about anything you want it to do.
Oh, I also had a Tilt1 (Tytn II) and this one is an improvement over it, though it was a very good device.
subterran said:
Oh, and by the way - I hate the 70's flipdown clock. I wish I could at choose how that looks. My god...the WM developers have now painted themselves into a corner!
*grumble grumble*
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I think that clock is all HTC's doing. I would like some different options for clocks and some of the cooked ones are good.
subterran said:
Hello all!
I am just coming off of using a Tilt for 3 years, and finally it died. In my opinion, it was the best phone I ever owned. I had high expectations for this new tilt2, but alas - when it arrived, I was dismayed at all of the crapware, levels of junk, and the lack of ability to control what icons I see on the start menu (which looks like someone vomited icons all over the screen - no organization to them at all - I have to dig 3 menus deep just to find file explorer, and FORGET about the wireless manager! It's hopeless!
Why oh why have they taken away the customization that made WM great?
On my old Tilt, I simply ran the stock rom, and did the reset to avoid all the att crapware, for a plain vanilla WM5 device. I then ran Kaisertweak, and HTC Home customizer. It ran whatever apps I threw at it, and ran them well.
My only complaint would be that compared to the iphone, the apps look and feel clunkier, but as I said, they worked very well, so who cares? Even the freeware Opera browser worked well, if inferior to Safari - but not terrible.
Is there any way to make this one look and act like that? What I wouldnt give for it to run WM5, I swear...
I have owned: Casiopea e150, dell x3, dell x5, royaltech PPC w/ gps, Eten M600, Glofiish X500, ATT 8125, ATT tilt, Iphone 2g, Iphone 3g, and now this.
I am not afraid of tweaking, although I dislike 'cooked' roms - Id rather fix a clean factory release.
Of all of those, the (old) Tilt was my woobee. I might just see if I can find another one somewhere. I like the new screen, and the fact it can play xvid movies without a recode, but damn...is it worth it? I'm afraid to put any software on this thing, because I might never find it again!
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remove these files http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=UninstallingTilt2Software
Get Crud Scraper, it does it for you. Great app.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=587637&highlight=crud+scraper
All better! Thanks all!
OK - yes I must admit, I was overreacting. I jumped out and grabbed the very capable SPD mobile shell, and that took care of me being completely lost because of the worlds nuttiest start menu (!)
Here is my complete load, in case anyone is interested:
Stock 6.5 ATT ROM
Install .net 3.5 so I can use:
Crudscraper (Awesome way to clean the bloatware out, thanks!)
SPB Mobile Shell (this completely bypasses the default start menu / home - good riddance!)
1% Increment Battery Driver
K-Battery (a slick, freeware battery meter that looks great)
Memory Map Weather Radar
Vito Audionotes MP3 recorder
National Geographic Pocket Topo
Odyssey Mobile Navigator
Backcountry Navigator
TCPMP Player (Orb looks ver nice!)
WMWifirouter
Resco Regedit
Phoenix Studio
Then just customize SPB like I want it, and BAM - POW! How you like me now!
I REALLY like the mount-as-disc feature for accessing the microsd. About time! I am much happier with this phone.
Thanks XDA!
Looks like you're settled on Mobile Shell. If you ever feel like using the default start menu, I use JWMD Icon Changer to sort the icons, make folders, and (obviously) change icons. As another mentioned, you can use Total Commander to move the icons.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=567080
I found these alternate TouchFlo 3D clock on these forums.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=526466
Haven't tried them on my Tilt2 yet, but likely will soon.
Also HD Tweak (works just fine on Tilt2 despite being intended for Touch HD) and Advanced Config are great places to start tweaking settings.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=452505
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=418151
And this thread is invaluable: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=524655