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WM6 and Linux - Bluetooth issue

I am trying to get my laptop running linux to use my hermes as a modem over bluetooth. So far I am not succeeding, I have paired the phone and the laptop, but no services show up to share. I have sent files over bluetooth to the laptop and that is just fine.
Has anyone else done this? I really don't want to change my laptop back to windows just so I can surf the net using my phone.
Thanks

What distribution of linux and what window manager do you use?
And does the file transfer work both ways? (to the phone and from it).
I might help you a little

Using Ubuntu - Edgy Eft and Gnome.
I don't have a way for files to be sent from the latop, I am using the blue tooth file sharing program - which seems to be one way only.

I did this a long time ago, so I might have forgot something, but let's give it a try.
First check if you have a rfcomm device in /dev/, there should be something like rfcomm0.
And this is there if you have edited and paired your phone correctly!
(you should add your device to /etc/bluetooth/rfcomm.conf)
Try Gnome-PPP, it's a very good program for dialup rutines ^^
Code:
sudo apt-get install gnome-ppp
The gnome-ppp should be run in root mode because rfcomm device has no privileges, or then you could just chmod it.
But anyways, I've made a script for myself to turn on BT and start gnome-ppp, to run it with root privileges with the following command
Code:
gksudo -u root gnome-ppp
after that you see a window with username password etc.
press setup and put in the following config..
Setup
Now we need a init string! I have no idea what is your provider and what init string is needed for it.
In the Setup window press Init Strings...
And in the first place you set the string.
With Saunalahti as a provider I have a init string of:
AT+CGDCONT=1,"IP","internet.saunalahti"
notice that internet.saunalahti is the APN name for my providers internet gprs connections! So replace this with yours, or then contact your provider and ask for that info
Now back to the first window.
My ISP doesn't require any username but you can't connect without them so put in whatever you like for example
username: none and password: none
or
if you need username and password for your providers GPRS, then add them here
For the phonenumber set the number: *99#
Nothing else, that should be it then if I got it all and remember correct
Then just connect (notice that on TyTN there isn't any "connecting to GPRS" popups when you use a PPP from linux).

in WM6, the phone internet sharing no longer behaves like a modem. not sure how to get it working with Linux

joej said:
in WM6, the phone internet sharing no longer behaves like a modem. not sure how to get it working with Linux
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what do you mean, the "Wireless Modem" program that you can find in the Programs folder?
I never used that, there's no need of it.
In fact, don't use it, propably wont work with it.

StewartG said:
I am trying to get my laptop running linux to use my hermes as a modem over bluetooth. So far I am not succeeding, I have paired the phone and the laptop, but no services show up to share. I have sent files over bluetooth to the laptop and that is just fine.
Has anyone else done this? I really don't want to change my laptop back to windows just so I can surf the net using my phone.
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I've been successfully using my Wizard and Hermes as BT modems for GPRS/EDGE/UMTS connections, but only with WM5 (check out my tutorial here: http://klamstwo.org/evad/archives/20 ). After upgrading Hermes to WM6 I am no longer able to create rfcomm device, and I don't know why.
However, it is still possible to use GPRS/UMTS connection under Linux! I've managed to get it working through Bluetooth PAN profile. I'm planning to write some kind of tutorial on my blog pretty soon, but in meanwhile have a look here: http://bluez.sourceforge.net/contrib/HOWTO-PAN - this HOWTO describes quite comprehensively BT PAN usage under Linux.
Basically, you need to set up Internet Sharing via BT on your Hermes, and then connect from your Linux using pand daemon. Check out HOWTO, give it a try, if nothings comes up - feel free to ask here. Good luck.
Btw, my distro is FC6.

gvoima said:
what do you mean, the "Wireless Modem" program that you can find in the Programs folder?
I never used that, there's no need of it.
In fact, don't use it, propably wont work with it.
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In WM5 it didn't work even with Windows (or I didn't know how to set it up properly). WM6 brings completely new Internet Sharing application which is accessible from Linux without big problems via Bluetooth PAN profile - check out my post above.
I'm planning to try connecting to internet through Hermes/WM6 via USB cable. I guess it's just a matter of installing some usb-driver. It's worth to try, as UMTS/HSDPA connection together with BT drains battery really (I mean REALLY) fast, and also - USB cable offers higher speeds than BT...

Nice to know, i'm using WM5 atm, waiting the official WM6 release from sweden (I live in finland and tried to contact finnish HTC regarding that matter), then I might look into it more.

eva_d said:
I've been successfully using my Wizard and Hermes as BT modems for GPRS/EDGE/UMTS connections, but only with WM5 (check out my tutorial here: http://klamstwo.org/evad/archives/20 ). After upgrading Hermes to WM6 I am no longer able to create rfcomm device, and I don't know why.
However, it is still possible to use GPRS/UMTS connection under Linux! I've managed to get it working through Bluetooth PAN profile. I'm planning to write some kind of tutorial on my blog pretty soon, but in meanwhile have a look here: http://bluez.sourceforge.net/contrib/HOWTO-PAN - this HOWTO describes quite comprehensively BT PAN usage under Linux.
Basically, you need to set up Internet Sharing via BT on your Hermes, and then connect from your Linux using pand daemon. Check out HOWTO, give it a try, if nothings comes up - feel free to ask here. Good luck.
Btw, my distro is FC6.
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I see your point now, I upgraded to a new ROM and AKU, now the wireless modem is gone and I cannot connect to a rfcomm device anymore. But there is the Internet Sharing application, I'm going to try your tutorial in a moment

What about USB modem?
eva_d said:
[...]I'm planning to try connecting to internet through Hermes/WM6 via USB cable. I guess it's just a matter of installing some usb-driver. It's worth to try, as UMTS/HSDPA connection together with BT drains battery really (I mean REALLY) fast, and also - USB cable offers higher speeds than BT...
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Hi all,
It's my first post on this forum. But I'm looking forward to finding a way to use my HTC Wizard has a USB modem...
I've seen on another forum that configuring this device as an USB modem can be quite easy done on Windows. So it would be nice to have this working for Linux

joej said:
in WM6, the phone internet sharing no longer behaves like a modem. not sure how to get it working with Linux
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You can get it working as modem the same way you could do it in WM5 - using the "internet sharing " application.
The problem described here is that when you do
$ sdptool browse <bluetooth_mac_address>
you see no services.
I have the same problem with ubuntu.
When I browse the services of another phone - a nokia for example - I see all of them .
However I had this problem with ubuntu even before upgrading to WM6.
So it seems the problem is in the bluez version delivered with ubuntu.
What I am going to try the next few days is to uninstall the ubuntu release of bluez and build the source code and install.
I had an issue with synce also with ubuntu - not working. So I downloaded synce 's sources and everything works now.

deyanmf said:
You can get it working as modem the same way you could do it in WM5 - using the "internet sharing " application.
The problem described here is that when you do
$ sdptool browse <bluetooth_mac_address>
you see no services.
I have the same problem with ubuntu.
When I browse the services of another phone - a nokia for example - I see all of them .
However I had this problem with ubuntu even before upgrading to WM6.
So it seems the problem is in the bluez version delivered with ubuntu.
What I am going to try the next few days is to uninstall the ubuntu release of bluez and build the source code and install.
I had an issue with synce also with ubuntu - not working. So I downloaded synce 's sources and everything works now.
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This is mainly because the connection method has changed in WM6.
In WM5 it was done via DUN (Dialup Networking Profile). WM6 Internet Connection Sharing does not utilise or advertise this profile when in place, but sets up a PUNU (Personal Area Network) profile, basically turning the Hermes into a router with dhcp services.
I followed the referenced howto and was able to get my laptop running FC6 connected to the Hermes and auto-assigning an IP address. Unfortunately, though, the connection was not stable and disconnects not long after it was established.
I'll have another read at the howto as I've noticed persistent connection flags that should force reconnection, however if I'm connected to the Company VPN, then I suspect that will continually drop also.
Can anyone post any success stories and configuration/command output that they used to create a stable connection?
Ta
Darren

numanoids said:
Can anyone post any success stories and configuration/command output that they used to create a stable connection?
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Check out my solution: http://klamstwo.org/evad/archives/40
It actually works stable, however I have never used single connection for more than like 30-60 minutes, yet - I guess.
Btw, works also with Fedora 7.

Share GPS onto a laptop from XDA Orbit?

As the title. I had a search but didn't find anything so was wondering if it was possible to use the gps built into my XDA orbit with autoroute on my laptop?
Thanks in advance!

Have a look at Fransons GPS Gate, it will do exactly what you want try this page for a starter for ten http://franson.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3968 - Mike

Thanks Mike!

gps2blue does the job too and is freeware. As the title says it works over bluetooth.

I'd been using gps2blue (which is freeware) in all my PDA+GPS (current HTC X7500 and previous Mitac Mio A701) works great.
You can... 1) Use the PDA as external GPS for a laptop/UMPC/desktop PC connecting the PDA using BT or USB cable. I use cable most of the times. 2) You can track the PDA possition at home PC. This means you can travel with the PDA and sending thru Internet the live position to be recorded in the home PC.
I was one of the beta testers.
Just give it a try: http://users.skynet.be/hofinger/GPS2Blue.html
Best Regards
mahjong

Using Artemis as an external GPS

Hey guys,
I'm sorry if this question has already been posted, but I searched and couldn't find anything.
My question is this, I have a NOkia E65 with a Navigator application, and I wanted to use my HTC P3300 as an External GPS via Bluetooth. Is that possible to do ? I've been fiddling around with the GPSGate app, but so far no such luck.
Thanks for your help

How far do you get through the set-up guide on this page http://franson.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3968
It works fine on my Artemis - Mike

Hi,
I was able to get it working through Activesync. At first connect your computer through activesync via Bluetooth. Then configure your GPSgate to connect through Activesync, then you can see your Artemis is now able to work as a external GPS receiver.

Tether Dash to Another Phone (TM506)?

OK, this may be a bit naive, especially since T-Mo is rumored to stop tethering on the TM506 in later updates (heaven forbid SIM provisioning), but I would like to tether the Dash to the TM506, like a PC, via BT and only have data on the TM506. I really love my Dash for now and the TM506 has HSPDA 3.5G. Can this be done? Can any additional WM6 software accomplish this?

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GJSmith3rd said:
OK, this may be a bit naive, especially since T-Mo is rumored to stop tethering on the TM506 in later updates (heaven forbid SIM provisioning), but I would like to tether the Dash to the TM506, like a PC, via BT and only have data on the TM506. I really love my Dash for now and the TM506 has HSPDA 3.5G. Can this be done? Can any additional WM6 software accomplish this?
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Find my thread on Bluetooth Dun, it has the software you need, just install it on your T-Mobile Dash to the main memory. If you cannot find it get back with me...........!

Thanks for the quick reply and advice.
I'll search your threads to find the DUN Posts and post back in a few days. So I quess the Dash can dial to T-Mo 3G using the TM506 modem via BT. Great!
I just wonder if there is a way to configure DUN without it eating minutes. Previously, when I set up connection teaming on a laptop with the Dash and a Samsung T409 using DUN, minutes on my plan began to mysteriously get used.
Is it possible to use T-Mo DUN without eating minutes off your plan?

That Sony Phone Is Now In T-Mobile Stores
GJSmith3rd said:
Thanks for the quick reply and advice.
I'll search your threads to find the DUN Posts and post back in a few days. So I quess the Dash can dial to T-Mo 3G using the TM506 modem via BT. Great!
I just wonder if there is a way to configure DUN without it eating minutes. Previously, when I set up connection teaming on a laptop with the Dash and a Samsung T409 using DUN, minutes on my plan began to mysteriously get used.
Is it possible to use T-Mo DUN without eating minutes off your plan?
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That's a beautiful little Sony phone, I saw it in the T-Mobile store yesterday. I believe it will work, if you cannot find the software, I will PM you a link to the BT dunn software a little bit later. I got to find it also, but I have it.........!

I found it
Look for a PM in the next 10 minutes.........!

The BlueTooth Dunn File
Below is the BT dunn file, install it to the main memory, you still will need the configuration set up.........!

Technology said:
Below is the BT dunn file, install it to the main memory, you still will need the configuration set up.........!
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Thanks, I still have it in my downloads from the last time you helped me. I didn't really need it then because my modded Dash had BT DUN enable for PC to Dash modem. Hope it works for Dash to TM506 modem.
Update: I installed the app to main memory but I don't see a program link or folder in program files. I'm guessing something went wrong but the install was reported as successful.

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GJSmith3rd said:
Thanks, I still have it in my downloads from the last time you helped me. I didn't really need it then because my modded Dash had BT DUN enable for PC to Dash modem. Hope it works for Dash to TM506 modem.
Update: I installed the app to main memory but I don't see a program link or folder in program files. I'm guessing something went wrong but the install was reported as successful.
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Nothing is wrong, it's there, you will not see anything, but it will work, pair the devices. Let me know how things work out for you....!

Sorry, Techhology but I still can't figure this out. The Bluetooth services of the TM506 only list Input Device and Serial Port. Give me a few more pointers. Thanks.

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GJSmith3rd said:
Sorry, Techhology but I still can't figure this out. The Bluetooth services of the TM506 only list Input Device and Serial Port. Give me a few more pointers. Thanks.
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Print a picture of what you are working with on the Sony TM506, I would love to make this work. Another thing did you get the 2 devices paried.......?

Yes the devices are paired. The TM506 sees these services on the Dash: Object Push, File Transfer, Audio Remote Control and target. The Dash sees these services on the TM506: Input Device and Serial Port.
It appears that the SE PC Suite connects to the TM506 through BT serial port. You can also use BT dial-up networking directly instead of BT serial port.
If it were possible to have the Dash use the BT serial port on the TM506, like the SE PC Suite, then it might work. But I can't find any function in the Dash to do this.
I was also successful in connecting two PC's to the TM506 via BT. One via BT DUN and the other via BT PAN. The PC's had internet but the connections seemed very slow.

Do You Have 3g On The Sony TM506
GJSmith3rd said:
Yes the devices are paired. The TM506 sees these services on the Dash: Object Push, File Transfer, Audio Remote Control and target. The Dash sees these services on the TM506: Input Device and Serial Port.
It appears that the SE PC Suite connects to the TM506 through BT serial port. You can also use BT dial-up networking directly instead of BT serial port.
If it were possible to have the Dash use the BT serial port on the TM506, like the SE PC Suite, then it might work. But I can't find any function in the Dash to do this.
I was also successful in connecting two PC's to the TM506 via BT. One via BT DUN and the other via BT PAN. The PC's had internet but the connections seemed very slow.
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Ok, you will not see anything the Dash but the BT dunn file are there. Do you have a BT set up on the TM506?

Somthing tells me this would have been easier with a PPC instead on a Smartphone. GRIN
I can use DUN from a PC to both the TM506 and the Dash just fine. But I can't seem to figure out how to use DUN from the Dash to the TM506.
Many BT profile features on the TM506 are not visible to the Dash. Especially DUN and PAN. The BT serial port is visible but theres no application on the Dash to take advantage of this like the SE PC Suite does.
I've attached a picture of the BT services provided by the TM506 to a PC using the Widcomm BT stack.
Looks like the picture is too small. I'll try to post a better one.

Larger Photo of TM506 BT service to a PC with Widcomm BT Stack. The SE PC Suite uses the Serial Port to connect. Use can also use Dial-Up directly. In the photo I was using PAN - notice the green connected icon.

Passthrough internet on the vogue

Hey everybody...
i been trying to get this to work
i want to passthrough internet to my vogue
bt all the guides i find are using activesync
and i have windows mobile device center
soo there guides don't apply to me..
could someone please help me???

jdm4life said:
Hey everybody...
i been trying to get this to work
i want to passthrough internet to my vogue
bt all the guides i find are using activesync
and i have windows mobile device center
soo there guides don't apply to me..
could someone please help me???
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What exactly are you trying to accomplish?
1. Setting up a BT PAN
2. Tether your Vogue to your laptop meaning share it's data connection.

jadesse said:
What exactly are you trying to accomplish?
1. Setting up a BT PAN
2. Tether your Vogue to your laptop meaning share it's data connection.
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im trying to set up a bluetooth pan.. to send internet from my pc to my fone

I don't think that htere is currently anyway to set up a BT Pan. MS BT Stack does not support it. I believe it is an option with some of the Widcomm BT stacks that I have seen.

jadesse said:
I don't think that htere is currently anyway to set up a BT Pan. MS BT Stack does not support it. I believe it is an option with some of the Widcomm BT stacks that I have seen.
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just use the widcomm stack (which you should be doing already anyways, microsoft stack blows) pair your phone with the computer, go into the internet sharing and set it to bluetooth then connect to your phone using the access point option from the computer and there ya go, internet.