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Radio signal strength on automatic

My question is why My hermes Tytn picks up the weakest signal at this moment, that is the '3G' signal which is only 1 bar. If i switch to 'G' i get 4 bars instantly.
I have flashed the radio roms already went from 1.40.30 to 1.38.01...anyone thought about making my hermes just picking up the strongest signal automatically regardless if i want to use my UMTS connection?
bandswitch is not really an option right, bc i want my phone just picking op the strongest network at all times.
Its quite ridiculous that my phone picks up the weakest eg 1 bar '3G' instead of 4 bars of 'G' in my opinion especially when im in a phone conversation.
Any comments are welcome.
Regards,
Chiwah
btw new black touch rom is nice...only dunno if its a mon-tue-wedn etc on my today screen.

i have the same problem, although this thread should be moved to "hermes" or "hermes upgrade" forum instead of wm6 forum.
but if anyone has a solution to how to fix it that would be most welcomed by me aswell. (right now I always use gsm network)

Try to update radio to 1.41, it will solve your problem
I have same experience, it is solved after i updated the radio to 1.41. It is noticed that radio !.43 encountered same problems as 1.38 or 1.40. It always pick up the weaker signal such as 3G instead of steady GSM. For the radio 1.41 it always pick up the strongest signal, it will pick up GSM autuomatically if 3G signal is weak.

Or.....
Or you can just search for a great little program called band switch. this program creates a little icon at the bottom of your screen allowing you to switch band on the fly with the click of a button. it is free and was developed by someone in the community. just do a search for it.

I think you will find that the device when in auto (in common with all 3g devices) is set to choose 3g if its available - and thus it will choose 3g if it can get a signal. Personally I prefer 3g (even with one bar) to gsm as it means I can talk and receive emails at the same time.
But I am aware that some hermes users on some networks seem to have some 3g issues with low signal (ie it thinks there's a 3g signal but actually voice and data have trouble getting through).

I agree. The phone will deliberatly attempt to use a 3G signal whenever available. As long as you can send and receive calls, it seems to me that is a desired feature.
Now, if only they would expand 3G into more of my state...

Signal loss when moving...

I have recently changed to wm6, and changed radio rom.
I now have a problem with my signal.
When I start up my signal is great.
If I drive around for a while I get a no signal icon and "no signal" message.
If I manually switch a band to any variation I get the signal back.
I have changed roms, radio roms and varied all the settings but I still get this problem.
Anyone have any ideas ?

Signal drop
trettear said:
I have recently changed to wm6, and changed radio rom.
I now have a problem with my signal.
When I start up my signal is great.
If I drive around for a while I get a no signal icon and "no signal" message.
If I manually switch a band to any variation I get the signal back.
I have changed roms, radio roms and varied all the settings but I still get this problem.
Anyone have any ideas ?
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Hmmm let me guess Cingular customer??

what radio are you using??? if you are in the US, try using 1.40 radio, im using that one and its great, but i am on T-Mobile US...if you are on the UK 3G band, then try 1.43

I'm in South Africa... Not Cingular...tried 1.40... no change to the problem though

Have you tried going back to the radio you were previously using before this happened?

david.dupuis said:
Hmmm let me guess Cingular customer??
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Thats pretty f***ed up. I have Cingular and dont have a problem. Signal all depends on what Radio you have.

trettear said:
I'm in South Africa... Not Cingular...tried 1.40... no change to the problem though
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There are several more radio versions after 1.40 you should read up and see what radon would work best in South africa.

I was using wm5 with 1.3? but others in SA are using 1.40 with no problems.

Hi guys!
I recently upgraded to WM6, but left my radio at 1.40.
I am having BIG BIG problems.
All of a sudden, I could have 5 dropped calls in two minutes.
I notice that whenever the phone goes into "3G", signal strength drops (sometimes to one bar), and it's terrible.
I am not sure if there is a way to disable 3G, and remain in EDGE, or if I should try to get my hands on 1.43 or even 1.41.
What's strange is that when I went from WM5 to WM6, I did NOT upgrade the radio.
I'm on Rogers in Montreal.
It's beyond horrendous!

Signal Reception Question

I have noticed in the past few weeks that my signal reception has gotten worse. Places where I usually get 3G and HSPDA, now I only get Edge. It's seldom I get 3G anymore anywhere.
I am currently using K's ROM v1.30b. I tried a bunch of different radios as well, but no affect.
I am wondering is there something that can cause the signal to drop like that? Is it ROM dependent?
BTW, I'm on at&t in the midwest.

No one knows what can cause this?

Unless you have handled your device badly then it sounds like a transmitter issue. What radio version are you using? Also go into: start>system>phone>band
tell us what settings are selected.
The reception and etc....is attributed to the radio stack version, nothing else.

mrvanx said:
Unless you have handled your device badly then it sounds like a transmitter issue. What radio version are you using? Also go into: start>system>phone>band
tell us what settings are selected.
The reception and etc....is attributed to the radio stack version, nothing else.
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Thank you for your reply. I've used the following radios:
1.47, 1.48, 1.50, 1.54 all with approximately the same results. Meaning mostly Edge network everywhere and very very rarely 3G. Whereas it was 3G mostly before.
My settings are :
Select your network type: GSM (Should this be Auto?)
Select your GSM/UTMS band: Auto

Dont forget that sometimes the problem can be on AT&T's end...
The tower by my work has occasionally gone screwey for a day and all I can get is EDGE, or sometimes 3G with only 1 or 2 bars before switching to another tower on EDGE (normally full bars).
It's happened 4 times in the last year, each lasting only one day.
Go to a friends house or somewhere else and see if 3G comes back. If so then it might just be your local tower, esp. since you have tried so many radios without a difference.
EDIT: just read the above post..
Network type MUST be Auto or WCMDA for 3G to function!!

anubus12 said:
Thank you for your reply. I've used the following radios:
1.47, 1.48, 1.50, 1.54 all with approximately the same results. Meaning mostly Edge network everywhere and very very rarely 3G. Whereas it was 3G mostly before.
My settings are :
Select your network type: GSM (Should this be Auto?)
Select your GSM/UTMS band: Auto
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Your troubles as shown in the post above this one....your mode is set to GSM....hence why your device will not work on UMTS/3G unless the mode is set to WCDMA or auto.

new radio causing 3g/hsdpa connection problems

I don't know if there are more of you having problems with 3g and hsdpa after flashing the new radio update.
My connection type only accepts gprs after the flash. When i dial *#*#INFO#*#* and choose information and tap the ping test, i can only see that gprs is connected.
With the older radio's i always had a hsdpa connection.
This is the radio i'm using: 32.41.00.32U_5.08.00.04
Roms are different roms with the same issue:
-Defrost 2.0a
-DJDroid v1.0r1
-Adams OpenDesire 1.5 and 1.6 prerelease.
All roms in combination with this radio are causing problems with my 3g connection.

Maybe if you specify the ROM and the Radio versions you are using, someone can help you....

RiodaITA said:
Maybe if you specify the ROM and the Radio versions you are using, someone can help you....
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edited the first post.

dutch Hi / KPN... no difference at all.. 3g works fine, speedtest still showing 950kbps

Open desire 1.5, h3g data connection is HSDPA, with latest radio.

Well i only see the gprs icon, no 3g or hsdpa here. Speedtests give me 0.01mbit down and 0.02mbit upload speeds.

I just found 2 more simcards.
1 kpn
2 t-mobile
both the same thing, no more than 0.02 mbit up and down. . .
Maybe i have to try flashing a older radio back.

peewster said:
I just found 2 more simcards.
1 kpn
2 t-mobile
both the same thing, no more than 0.02 mbit up and down. . .
Maybe i have to try flashing a older radio back.
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No problem with the radio (got 3.4 mbgit this morning), and I'm on dutch vodafone.

Ok, so maybe my phone is just broken....

peewster said:
Ok, so maybe my phone is just broken....
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Maybe vodafone 3G broadcast thingie (dunno) is broken in your area?

Yeah mine dropped to 2G All the time so I flash the Android 2.2 HTC sense Rom and pushed it to wcdma only. Works, I think it's an issue with the radio for T-Mobile UK customers
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

abats said:
Maybe vodafone 3G broadcast thingie (dunno) is broken in your area?
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No because he tried kpn and T-mobile as well.

I've always had 3G issues on mine regardless of radio so I'm putting it down to being orange. New radio for me seems better tho, I get H alot more so things work fine!
Maybe the flash didn't take...

I flashed Dj Droid 1.0 r1 today with new radio and ive not shown Hdspa since. I did a speed test and it showed 1.9 - 2Mb, which is good for where i am. I did the ping test and it came back saying Hdspa so i think with me its just the icon thats not changing.

2.2 unless patched will only display 3G icon for both 3G and H. I doubt HTC have put that patch in...

And found another vodafone card (vodafone dongle)
Lets try

I have the same problem with H only getting 3g signal, since I started using 32... radio. So its defiantly not network related.

Ok tested my vodafone dongle, and same issue (from laptop), so there must be something wrong with the vodafone network.
Pffieuw

I have same problem with last radio with ROM Six O'clock AM, Open Desire, AOSP, DjRoid and AOSPDesire_1.2.2.

It's a bit strange, normally when i am in the living room a always had 3g or hsdpa. Now i only have gprs until i go upstairs, when i'm at the top floor it shows me the hsdpa icon, and a speed test of +/- 1.5/2Mbit down and up.
So there changed something. Maybe Vodafone messed up their signal or there's something different with the new radio. . .

[Q] Data connection problems

Hi,
I have some data connection problems since the first day i bought my DHD.
The phone reception signal bar are always changing even when i am not moving at all.
It can generally move from H to 3G a few times, then go to E and then G, in a few seconds.
it always moves, my internet connection is very slow.
It's as if the radio was always trying to renegociate the method of communication (GPRS, 3G, etc) with the operator's antenna
When i am in a phone call, i got disconnected sometimes or the sound stop during a few seconds (the time the radio switch from 3G/H to E/G i guess)
When i disable WCDMA from the settings i get a quite stable sound during my phones calls (maybe because the phone no more tries to negociate). But for Internet... it's just slow.
I tried a few ROMs, and their respectives radio rom (the one with the IRL branded in the ROM) i sometimes thought it was better but always it's still too unuseable.
I tried my SIM card in an iphone 3GS and i am usually in Edge (sometimes 3G) but when its 3G i can surf quickly during hours (if i don't move). This is not the case with the DHD.
btw i am on the french carrier SFR
If any of u had any clues i would really appreciate your help.
Thanks you

what rom are you using and what radio and ril................... now what radio are you on now

OP already stated he tried numerous ROMS and their cooresponding radios. Sounds like the signal is that degraded that any radio/ril combination will not help.

Thanks for your replies.
As said i tried many ones with their respective recommanded radio.
I am actually trying Radio_12.62.60.27_26.13.04.19_M with Android Revolution HD 4G_6.1.1 with no sense script.
Are there tests i could do to identify if its a hardware problem (like standing in front of an antenna and running some special tool maybe)
Btw, i also tried :
-RCMix3D_Runny_v1.3 but does work with internet pass through (wich is really important since i can't use internet from my phone carrier...)
-niarkMIUI-3.9.1
-LeeDrOiD_HD_V4.0.0-SE-3.0-BETA with Radio_12.54.60.25_26.09.04.11_M2
-cm_ace_full-203 with my stock radio ROM
-virtuous_unity-v2.37.0 with i don't remember wich one...
P.S : i would be Glad to test any ROM / Radio combinaison you would suggest me.
Thanks by advance for your attention

if you tried all those roms and diffident radios seems like its more like a hardware or provider issue does it happen off different towers or maybe you can go to one of the stores and try the phone at the store with yours at the same time?

Thank for the advice indeed i need to try this.
Do you know what i need to revert back for the tech not to tell the waranty is over since i have flashed my phone ?
Does i need to reflash the recovery etc? is there some tutorial in this subject because if i go to the store with my custom rom i guess i won't get too much help :/

Don't even take out your phone, your going to say your just looking, don't show anyone your phone, they won't even know what to look for, just test your phone to the one at the store, make sure apn's match. But if you return your phone you'll need to ruu back to stock. You can search easy s-on
Sent from my Inspire 4G using XDA App

What happens if you manually select 3G only, or 2G only from the settings menu? Does it just lose signal, or stays strong?

Hi
If i select 3G only
I first get no reception (as if when switching from 2G to 3G the radio had to restart)
Then the 3G signal appear strong, decrease slowly in less than 30 seconds, and after all, it seems quite stable.
The bandwidth is good i am downloading fastly
(i am commenting in real time)
Still no deconnection.
I will try it during the whole day and tell how it is behaving.
umm during a few seconds, there were no indicator (no 3G or H), just 3 bars.
It then restarted in H with 1 bar (i am not moving at all)
What will happen if i have no 3G in my area ? I won't be able to receve a phone call ?
Thanks

elfrancesco said:
Hi
If i select 3G only
I first get no reception (as if when switching from 2G to 3G the radio had to restart)
Then the 3G signal appear strong, decrease slowly in less than 30 seconds, and after all, it seems quite stable.
The bandwidth is good i am downloading fastly
(i am commenting in real time)
Still no deconnection.
I will try it during the whole day and tell how it is behaving.
umm during a few seconds, there were no indicator (no 3G or H), just 3 bars.
It then restarted in H with 1 bar (i am not moving at all)
What will happen if i have no 3G in my area ? I won't be able to receve a phone call ?
Thanks
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If you force it to 3G only, and you move out of 3G area, then you should either get a no signal indicator, or if you have roaming enabled, you would get the roaming indicator. I'm curious now because as you said you aren't moving, and it's still changing. That shouldn't happen. Hmmm