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Dear All,
first of all....HELLO! I've just registered myself on the forum.
Yesterday I bought the HTC P3600 (Trinity, I think), english version (I suppose it's called wwe). I want to install a cooked ITALIAN ROM, but I read I'm losing the guarantee if I'll do it.
Somebody tell me there is a software that can allow me to re-install the original ROM and avoid the guarantee losing.
Is this right? can someone give me more info?
Thanks in advance for your reply and sorry for my english
Best regards
You can always go back to an original HTC rom, as long as you don't brick your device.
In order to prevent that, you should install a Hard-SPL (board search, iirc its a sticky) which is a replacement bootloader that allows flashing any Rom after bricking.
Have fun playing around with your new P3600.
ZakMcRofl said:
You can always go back to an original HTC rom, as long as you don't brick your device.
In order to prevent that, you should install a Hard-SPL (board search, iirc its a sticky) which is a replacement bootloader that allows flashing any Rom after bricking.
Have fun playing around with your new P3600.
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So if I install first the Hard-SPL I can install a COOKED ITALIAN ROM and after I can go back the original HTC ROM and I'll not lose my guarantee???
If I brick, how can I de-brick the HTC?
Thanks for the quickly reply
Best regards
You should try reading the WIKI and also check www.trinityguides.info
Helloo there.
Your phone is probably cid locked, that means, that u can install only original htc rom-wm5. wm6 doesnt exist for htc trinity.
If u have cid unlocked, u can flash any rom with the RUU (rom update utility) , which is in the package with the rom.
Otherwise i prefer for my cid locked trinity that:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293632
U loose warranty if u send the broken pda on service with the custom rom installed on it. So, before u send it, flash the original rom over and it will be ok.
The problem could be, if the lcd goes bad, than its hard to reinstall the original rom. i know u understand.
badguy999 said:
Helloo there.
Your phone is probably cid locked, that means, that u can install only original htc rom-wm5. wm6 doesnt exist for htc trinity.
If u have cid unlocked, u can flash any rom with the RUU (rom update utility) , which is in the package with the rom.
Otherwise i prefer for my cid locked trinity that:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293632
U loose warranty if u send the broken pda on service with the custom rom installed on it. So, before u send it, flash the original rom over and it will be ok.
The problem could be, if the lcd goes bad, than its hard to reinstall the original rom. i know u understand.
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Thanks for your answer. I installed the SPL-1.20 and I updated my Radio version (1.46.00.11------is it good?). Now I can install every unofficial ROM and in any case I can go back (how?).
Is it right?
Best regards
Hi,
Does HTC release their own updated ROMs for the Diamond???
If so where can I find them and how do I update the device (does HTC have instructions on the web)??? Also what is the latest ROM version (I think I have 1.37.0 WWE), my phone came from Hong Kong...
Thanks,
NW
NightWolf88 said:
Hi,
Does HTC release their own updated ROMs for the Diamond???
If so where can I find them and how do I update the device (does HTC have instructions on the web)??? Also what is the latest ROM version (I think I have 1.37.0 WWE), my phone came from Hong Kong...
Thanks,
NW
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Try reading the rules here before posting!
Also, get familiar to using forum search and also google search.
oh no...
not someone who and use the search button
i have tried the search function!
i cannot find a concrete answer as to if htc has actually got a download page with the roms or if we need to use the rom 1.93... and this hard spl program...
fyi when searching i found many ppl asking the same qus as me yet there was no answer other than a few wasteful people saynting use the search function... if u do know the answer dont be Arrogant and say use search - the onlynthing u are doing is wasting ppls time and increasing ur post count. i asked for some help if u dont have anything useful to add dont post...
thanks
www.htc.com - E-club
It's in your phone manual as well.
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www.htc.com - E-club
It's in your phone manual as well.
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HTC e-club doesn't have roms for diamond - not on Hong Kong where I login anyway.
Thanks for the reply Riel/Tim, I have been to that page and enter in my SN and register but when I go to my device nothing comes up... I cannot see the Diamond listed under software downloads either..? I log into world wide...
Thanks for the reply, I have been to that page and enter in my SN and register but when I go to my device nothing comes up as well... SO I'd say HTC havent release any ROM device updates... SO how do you guys get the exe for the diamond v1.93???
Also to install the 1.93 ROM posted by Tom do I need to install HardSPL on my phone..? Because it looks like that package will work with no need to install any SPL, its just an exe that runs through a wizard... What way/how does the HardSPL versions here prevent me from bricking the phone? How do I find the SPL version that is currently on my phone and can I revert back to the original SPL/remove hard CID so I dont void warranty..?
Tim what ROM are you using on your Diamond and how did you install it???
Also does the ROM posted by Tom have the Radio ROM (I think its 1.00.25.5 inc in the package guessing by the file name?) let me use Quad band network?
HTC does release the updates, but not on their site. Only to their resellers I believe.
Yes, it is essential to install hard SPL on your phone for any ROM you want to try. I am using walshieau's Elite 3.0 ROM 9 (which is very quick). This is what I did to install it:
1) Flash hard SPL signed version (which will hard reset your phone, so backup using PIM backup from pocketpcfreewares.com)
2) Flash the ROM of your choice
After this I decided to update the Radio to version .05
In order to do this I needed to first flash with UNsigned hard SPL, then flash the radio using CustomRUU. Now I have support for Telstra's NextG 850Mhz.
NightWolf88: check your PM and you can contact me by phone and I may be able to explain in more detail.
Thanks very much for the help Tim!!! Thanks to all the other people doing great work on these forums!!
Ok so from what I have read so far ( I posted this in the 1.93 ROM thread as well - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2416200&posted=1#post2416200) I just need some of my noobish questions answered, dont want to ruin my lovely Diamond :
From what I have read:
1. Backup device - Is there any way I can backup the ROM which is currently on my device (1.37.00.0 WWE)???
2. Upgrade to HardSPL signed as this is a signed ROM- download this file http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=400402 extract, run the .exe file... Follow the RomUpdateUtility.exe (RUU) wizard - SPL will flash and then with any luck get a message saying complete - job is done.
What does "1. do not try to use this SSPL to flash anything else other than an SPL file. it explicitly blocks other flashes anyway. SSPL is *never* a good way to flash OS images" mean... So can I not use this to update the device OS ROM to 1.93. in this thread??? I assume SSPL = Signed Second Program Loader..?
Do I need to use this unsigned version..? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=400950 - It has overwrite protection..?
Finally - use volume down & soft reset to see that SPL/bootloader has installed/flashed correctly... Then to SAFELY get out of the bootloader softreset again...?
3. Upgrade the OS ROM using the .exe file in post 1 of this thread...
So I download the exe connect my device via active sync then follow the rest of the steps in the RUU.exe wizard, it will give me a progress bar on both the PC and the Diamond, the Diamond will then softreset with the new rom all installed..?
Questions:
Can someone please confirm the above method is correct to install the ROM on this page?
Does the Radio also update itself to 1.00.25.05 when running the exe in the post #1??? I.e. will I get quad band radio support???
Do I need the signed or unsigned SPL what is the best to use???
How do I dump the ROM that is currently on my device to PC/whats the best program? Do I need to do this for warranty etc or if I dont like the new ROM..?
To restore to original SPL I go to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2324829&postcount=39 grab my stock SPL and then use the unsigned SPL RUU exe? What is SSPL-manual used for???
Also in the post by cmonex (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2324829&postcount=39) he says "if you have signed hardspl, just go ahead and flash with normal RUU process (no overwrite protection in that one, as it is already only accepting htchackers signed files, there was no need for that)."
What is the normal RUU process???
If I use the signed SPL I can just use the RUU.exe that comes with that and copy the stock SPL to replace the .nbh file in the signed Hard-SPL folder and everything should run fine? No need to worry with the unsigned Hard-SPL version right?
As stupid as it may sound I still don’t get all this SPL/SSPL/Hard-SPL stuff, what is on the phone originally? and what changes with hard-spl download packages??? I assume SPL is a boot loader like BIOS on the “PC” or EFI on Intel-Apple Macs..? What is the difference between the stock SPL/bootloader on the phone and signed/unsigned hard-SPL that some of the guys here have made?
Thanks once again ,
NW
NightWolf88 said:
Thanks for the reply Riel/Tim, I have been to that page and enter in my SN and register but when I go to my device nothing comes up... I cannot see the Diamond listed under software downloads either..? I log into world wide...
Thanks for the reply, I have been to that page and enter in my SN and register but when I go to my device nothing comes up as well... SO I'd say HTC haven't release any ROM device updates... SO how do you guys get the exe for the diamond v1.93???
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Same problem here!
Yes, I did use the search function but didn't find what I was looking for.
That being said, I have registered my Diamond on e-Club. (It's a French Orange one, so I used a hack I found on another forum to correctly register by changing "HT825" to "HT826" in the SN.) However, I don't see anything for the diamond available for download under "Phone Software Updates" and "Other Downloads."
So my question is: does HTC offer certain downloads only to certain SN?
The answer might have been already posted somewhere; if so please redirect me (and NightWolf88) to the correct thread if you know it!
Thanks
PS: NightWolf88, check out www.modmydiamond.info if you haven't already: it's a fantastic tutorial that will most likely answer most of your questions regarding the fine art of ROM flashing and restoring.
Yeah I have checked that page, great site.
From what I have read there are no HTC e-club updates for the Diamond yet, only updates going to resellers... I also emailed HTC Tech support - I got this reply:
Thank you for choosing hTC. Please note that there's no new rom for HTC Touch Diamond at the moment. We recommend you to visit our hTC HK website for the latest information as below
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I wish that HTC would pull there finger out and release an official ROM.
After putting an Official Rom update on the e-club site but then taking it down pretty quickly, it seems strange they haven't released one yet.
Im holding out for an Official Rom, but I think i will just give in and flash a cooked rom in the end.
Gonna try flashing the Radio first as I havent got an issue with the Rom itself, just with the signal behaving very erratically!
Will see.
Great site tho xda devs and also the modmydiamond one to, some invaluable info on both of them.
Thanks everyone on here.
On my SN and registration I definatedly got provided with a new rom.
It is 1.37 in my case, in Dutch.
See attachment of screenshot of the Site:
Riel said:
On my SN and registration I definatedly got provided with a new rom.
It is 1.37 in my case, in Dutch.
See attachment of screenshot of the Site:
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Yeah it seems that only device SNs that shipped with <1.37 have an update, there is no offical release of 1.93 which is (from what I have read) better than 1.37, but 1.37 was alot better than the 34s and 35s if you do a search around the net alot of reviewers got sent these ROMs which fixed initial lag issues...
I want to put 1.93 on my device, wanted offical htc release but I'm just going to use the one posted here...
Any one hjelp me with the ROM update???
NightWolf88 said:
Thanks very much for the help Tim!!! Thanks to all the other people doing great work on these forums!!
Ok so from what I have read so far ( I posted this in the 1.93 ROM thread as well - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2416200&posted=1#post2416200) I just need some of my noobish questions answered, dont want to ruin my lovely Diamond :
From what I have read:
1. Backup device - Is there any way I can backup the ROM which is currently on my device (1.37.00.0 WWE)???
2. Upgrade to HardSPL signed as this is a signed ROM- download this file http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=400402 extract, run the .exe file... Follow the RomUpdateUtility.exe (RUU) wizard - SPL will flash and then with any luck get a message saying complete - job is done.
What does "1. do not try to use this SSPL to flash anything else other than an SPL file. it explicitly blocks other flashes anyway. SSPL is *never* a good way to flash OS images" mean... So can I not use this to update the device OS ROM to 1.93. in this thread??? I assume SSPL = Signed Second Program Loader..?
Do I need to use this unsigned version..? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=400950 - It has overwrite protection..?
Finally - use volume down & soft reset to see that SPL/bootloader has installed/flashed correctly... Then to SAFELY get out of the bootloader softreset again...?
3. Upgrade the OS ROM using the .exe file in post 1 of this thread...
So I download the exe connect my device via active sync then follow the rest of the steps in the RUU.exe wizard, it will give me a progress bar on both the PC and the Diamond, the Diamond will then softreset with the new rom all installed..?
Questions:
Can someone please confirm the above method is correct to install the ROM on this page?
Does the Radio also update itself to 1.00.25.05 when running the exe in the post #1??? I.e. will I get quad band radio support???
Do I need the signed or unsigned SPL what is the best to use???
How do I dump the ROM that is currently on my device to PC/whats the best program? Do I need to do this for warranty etc or if I dont like the new ROM..?
To restore to original SPL I go to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2324829&postcount=39 grab my stock SPL and then use the unsigned SPL RUU exe? What is SSPL-manual used for???
Also in the post by cmonex (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2324829&postcount=39) he says "if you have signed hardspl, just go ahead and flash with normal RUU process (no overwrite protection in that one, as it is already only accepting htchackers signed files, there was no need for that)."
What is the normal RUU process???
If I use the signed SPL I can just use the RUU.exe that comes with that and copy the stock SPL to replace the .nbh file in the signed Hard-SPL folder and everything should run fine? No need to worry with the unsigned Hard-SPL version right?
As stupid as it may sound I still don’t get all this SPL/SSPL/Hard-SPL stuff, what is on the phone originally? and what changes with hard-spl download packages??? I assume SPL is a boot loader like BIOS on the “PC” or EFI on Intel-Apple Macs..? What is the difference between the stock SPL/bootloader on the phone and signed/unsigned hard-SPL that some of the guys here have made?
Thanks once again ,
NW
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I Have Got An Orange Uk Diamond And Have Been Trying To Upgrade From Rom 1.37.405.1 Wwe To 1.93..... But Was Unsuccesfull. I Have Got Few Questions.
1. Is It Possible To To Do It(1.73 Rom To 1.93)
2. Do I Need To Hard Spl For This As It Is I Believe An Official Rom
3. Is There Anyone Who Managed To Backup The Orange Rom 1.37 So If Something Goes Wrong I Can Return And Reflash My Phone Back To The Original Rom It Came With.
I Maybe Asking For Too Much Here.
And Sorry Guys For The Newbie Questions. As It Might Have Already Been Answered A Million Times. I Just Couldnt Find Them.
Thanks In Advance.
When You Type In All Caps It Makes Your Words Normalised But Every Word Has A Capital Letter
Just In Case You Wanted To See Who The Idiots Were
yuv said:
I Have Got An Orange Uk Diamond And Have Been Trying To Upgrade From Rom 1.37.405.1 Wwe To 1.93..... But Was Unsuccesfull. I Have Got Few Questions.
1. Is It Possible To To Do It(1.73 Rom To 1.93)
Yes but you need hardspl unsigned 1.34 or 1.40
2. Do I Need To Hard Spl For This As It Is I Believe An Official Rom
Yes see post above
3. Is There Anyone Who Managed To Backup The Orange Rom 1.37 So If Something Goes Wrong I Can Return And Reflash My Phone Back To The Original Rom It Came With.
Mine is sim-free so cannot help you there but I am sure someone else can.
I Maybe Asking For Too Much Here.
And Sorry Guys For The Newbie Questions. As It Might Have Already Been Answered A Million Times. I Just Couldnt Find Them.
Thanks In Advance.
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1. Is It Possible To To Do It(1.73 Rom To 1.93)
Yes but you need hardspl unsigned 1.34 or 1.40
2. Do I Need To Hard Spl For This As It Is I Believe An Official Rom
Yes see post above
3. Is There Anyone Who Managed To Backup The Orange Rom 1.37 So If Something Goes Wrong I Can Return And Reflash My Phone Back To The Original Rom It Came With.
Mine is sim-free so cannot help you there but I am sure someone else can.
Since you're not giving any details I don't know what your exact issue is. It depends on your Phone and where you got it.
Most likely your issue can be resolved by reading the thread which I link to in my signature.
daleski75 said:
1. Is It Possible To To Do It(1.73 Rom To 1.93)
Yes but you need hardspl unsigned 1.34 or 1.40
2. Do I Need To Hard Spl For This As It Is I Believe An Official Rom
Yes see post above
3. Is There Anyone Who Managed To Backup The Orange Rom 1.37 So If Something Goes Wrong I Can Return And Reflash My Phone Back To The Original Rom It Came With.
Mine is sim-free so cannot help you there but I am sure someone else can.
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If you HardSPL you wont be able to install a standard HTC ROM without some faffing, I had this problem this week, so if your 1.93 is the released Standard OEM HTC one then dont HardSPL whatever you do.
thanks alot guys. what a quick response. and sorry for the caps lock if it got u confused.
as far as the details of the phone is concerened. its an orange UK contract phone with the ROM version 1.37.405.1 WWE radio 1.00.25.03. the phone hasnt been flashed at all. i did try to flash it to _QMR_RUU_Diamond_HTC_WWE_1.93.405.1_Radio_Signed_Diamond_52.29.25.12_1.00.25.05_Ship.exe but was unable to. i guess i should have hard spl it before.
i m guessing the only thing i need to do is to hard spl it right. or do i need to do something else as well.
again thanks alot guys for the quick responses.
hi tony.
i have actually tried to do it without hard spl but it would get stuck on 1%. is there any other way to do it. i believe the ROM i m trying to flash to is an official one as far as the thread i downloaded it from is concerend.
one thing to clear here. its the first time i m trying to flash from 1.37 to 1.93 official rom. could someone confirm that there is a 1.93... official rom available or is it one of the cooked ones. and could one confirm as well that i need to hard spl even flashing from oficial to official rom. coz two post before tony mentioned not to hard spl.
any ideas guys. thanks
Here's what I've just done, I hope it helps -
Vodafone UK to UK release HTC ROM.
1. I read the info here, over and over and asked lots of questions.
2. I checked the current SPL of my fone (Volume Down & Reset) and found I had 1.37.
3. Downloaded Hard SPL 1.37 UnSigned and installed it - Here was my first problem. Everyone just says use RUU to install hard SPL however the SPL's I downloaded didn't come with RUU so I took a guess and decided that RUU was a generic flasher which could also flash the SPL for me.
4. Use RUU to flash the SPL, mine reported V1.0 as the new ROM version but installed and rebooted perfectly to reveal the coloured screen informng that I did now have a Cooked SPL installed.
5. Followed the fisrt startup procedure that the phone asked me to do.
6. Flashed the new ROM in a similar way to flashing the Hard SPL.
7. Phone flashed ok and I'm just in the process of setting it up now.
One issue I did have was using Vista I had to right click and run as Administrator to make it work.
tonyb15re said:
If you HardSPL you wont be able to install a standard HTC ROM without some faffing, I had this problem this week, so if your 1.93 is the released Standard OEM HTC one then dont HardSPL whatever you do.
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wrong. if you use unsigned hardspl (aka "developer hardspl") it will flash HTC ROMs just fine
1.93 is also unsigned.
vrstu said:
3. Downloaded Hard SPL 1.37 UnSigned and installed it - Here was my first problem. Everyone just says use RUU to install hard SPL however the SPL's I downloaded didn't come with RUU so I took a guess and decided that RUU was a generic flasher which could also flash the SPL for me.
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who's "everyone"? this information is totally wrong, wrong, wrong.
next time you download an attachment from a post, read the post where the attachment was, and you won't have this problem (the post that had the unsigned hardspl 1.37 also talked about where to get the special SSPL RUU for it - have a guess. it is in the same post in another attachment).
Thread has been closed due to maintenance of the forum. If you want it reopened, PM a MODERATOR!
How do I remove HardSPL so that I can load my factory rom for a warranty return?
Can I just the load the vendors ROM or will this brick my phone?
My diamond is a UK vodafone version and I have a copy of their official ROM, I read this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=342744
but it says I need the IPL/SPL based on your device and carrier where would I get these?
you need to flash the ROM and Radio back first, then find a stock SPL and flash that.
MAKE SURE THE SPL IS THE LAST THING!!!
i even found the stock SPLs for u
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=400411
mugglesquop said:
i even found the stock SPLs for u
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=400411
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I am not the one who asked the question but I thank you also. I don't need to reflash the rom for return but I will bookmark this just in case .
Thanks but I'm a little confused now, how do I flash the ROM and Radio back first and what is the SPL then. I followed the link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=400411 but I think these are the roms aren't they?
Yes, those are the ROMs. They do also include the radio.
Just use either the original RUU Updater to upload it to the phone or the patched one from OliNex.
After that you have to upload the original SPL.
See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2324829&postcount=39
for detailed instructions.
Cya,
Viper BJK
mugglesquop. Thank you for the original SPLs but I dont see the UK orange stock SPL listed...Can I use any 1.37 SPLs????
I used the search function on this forum and could not find the stock uk orange SPL. Thanks.
Afaik there are no stock orange spl. Standard spl (same version) should work.
To be sure, get a orange rom and extract the spl from there.
viperbjk. Thank you for the info. I extracted an orange ROM and found a file named "RUU_signed.nbh". I believe this is the bootloader file that I will need to load after installing the original orange ROM.
Hopefully this will work and can send my Diamond back to orange.Thanks
The RUU_signed.nbh is normally the complete rom package. You have to extract it, to see if SPL is in it.
Cya,
Viper BJK
I can confirm there is no "orange" SPL
Hello all,
I looked at: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=413910
If I want to perform Hard Rest (In order to return to clean default ROM 1.37) and then upgrade to ROM 1.93 (WWE_1.93).
Do I only have to download "RUU_Diamond_hTC_Asia_HK_WWE_1.93.831.1.exe" from rapidshare, backup, charge device, connect cable and active "RUU_Diamond_hTC_Asia_HK_WWE_1.93.831.1.exe"?
Or do I have to do something else before (i.e. install hard spl...)?
because it is not "signed" rom from HTC site?
Thanks,
You need to use a Hard SPL if you do not have a original HTC Diamond and want to flash a new ROM.
if you have a HTC Diamond (not CID locked, either by region or carrier) then you can flash official ROMs from HTC.
If it is locked, then you need to flash a Hard SPL, either a developers edition (which means you can flash any ROM) or a signed SPL, which means the ROMs you flash must be signed by the Diamond Team here to say it is ok.
Personally i have the Developer edition SPL, so i can Flash any ROM.
Cheers,
I do I know if I have CID locked ROM
mugglesquop said:
You need to use a Hard SPL if you do not have a original HTC Diamond and want to flash a new ROM.
if you have a HTC Diamond (not CID locked, either by region or carrier) then you can flash official ROMs from HTC.
If it is locked, then you need to flash a Hard SPL, either a developers edition (which means you can flash any ROM) or a signed SPL, which means the ROMs you flash must be signed by the Diamond Team here to say it is ok.
Personally i have the Developer edition SPL, so i can Flash any ROM.
Cheers,
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CID locked, either by region or carrier?
Where did you buy ur phone from?
For example i bought mine from Expansys, just as a handset, so it is not Carrier locked. so therefore i can flash offical HTC ROMs.
But to flash a 'custom' ROM, or a T-Mobile ROM for example, i'd have to flash Hard SPL (which i have )
I bought it from private store...
mugglesquop said:
Where did you buy ur phone from?
For example i bought mine from Expansys, just as a handset, so it is not Carrier locked. so therefore i can flash offical HTC ROMs.
But to flash a 'custom' ROM, or a T-Mobile ROM for example, i'd have to flash Hard SPL (which i have )
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That brought the phone from Orange Swiss...
Now I see the person in the store installed spl-1.40.olinex...
e_sela said:
That brought the phone from Orange Swiss...
Now I see the person in the store installed spl-1.40.olinex...
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yeh thats a Hard SPL that doesnt require the ROM to be signed, so you can flash any ROM from this site, and any HTC Official ROMs.
Let me know if u need help with anything else