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Windows Mobile "XDA Live" Edition

I'm liking Windows Mobile "XDA Live"
as the name in honor of all XDA-Dev has done for us.​
I'll be keeping this post updated with progress/news.
Understand that I can not release this Rom without the approval of my source, they need to protect their livelihood. The second I'm given the go ahead, the floodgate with open but until then I simply can't unless I want to burn a good source who put a lot of trust in me.
My primary goal is to get an uncluttered Rom that is useful from the start, think Faria-lite..
If everyone is good and doesn't keep me from getting this done, I will release the scripts that I am using to build & rebuild this rom easily so that each of you can confidently do exactly as I am. I can release the scripts maybe this weekend regardless of the status of the Rom because they are independent of the Rom you are cooking.
Quick FAQ:
Q: Can we get a "Clean" version of the Rom.
A: When released there will be several packages:
"Clean OS" Rom with only HTC-X and Comm Button Toggle Vibrate Fix integrated.
"Hit the Ground Running" Rom with several useful apps embedded (you will be able to disable everything that is embedded) and operator Customizations within easy reach.
Hermes Rom Cookbook, which will include the scripts and tools I am using to do this and instructions on how to apply these to any Hermes Rom.
.nb file only releases for those who want to only swap out the OS ('cause we like our splash screens)
Q: Will WMXL (Windows Mobile XDA Live) fix my corrupted radio bootloader or otherwise bricked Hermes?
A: If the other tools here can't do it then don't bet the farm on WMXL doing it. The Flashing tools are still the same, no magic pill here.
Q: Can you Add XXXX or why not use ZZZZ instead of the App you chose.
A: I have been selective of the apps I am embedding. They may not always be the best at what they do but they are easy to use and small. I will not install 5 different apps with the same function. By having one or two apps you will use embedded you will save plenty of Program Memory to be able to comfortably install the Task Manager, MP3 player or Coffee Temp Monitor of your liking.
Q: Kyphur you are such a Guru, how can I be like you?
A: Remember that my head is in the clouds on this one only because I'm standing on the shoulders' of giants. This project owes it's very existence to many other contributers here and they deserve as much if not more of the cudos than I do. The is a team effort, please support everyone who made this possible. (See my post here). I have been a member her for only 15 months give or take but I have spent more time reading than doing or posting.
Q: If you embed a program into the Rom how can I remove it (to save memory).
A: You can't remove file that are in the Rom. You can remove the Shortcuts to the programs. Again I will repeat that programs in the Rom do not consume any memory. If you don't want the program simply ignore it and it will not harm you.
Q: I have more questions...
A: Read the thread.
Current Status:
I have removed the list ofToday (.tsk) Themes for this Rom. Click here for Images of all the Themes I have collected. I've decided that instead of embedding them all, I will remove all but the default Crossbow Theme and maybe create a custom WMXL (Windows Mobile XDA Live) Theme.
The rest of the collection will be packaged together so everyne can pick and choose their themes. If we figure out how to create a custom Ext_Rom.nd then I will put them there along with Carrier Data & MMS Settings.
I have integrated the following Applications:
Dictionary Editor
HTweakC v2.1
MS Hearts for PPC
PHM Registry Editor ** Will not be replaced by Total Commander...
SMS Backup
StartClean
VJCandelaLite (Flashlight)
I know everyone has their own list of apps they'd like to see but I have chosed these because they are small, simple to use and ADD functionality to the Rom.
I have integrated the following Registry Fixes:
By default only the Date Plugin is enabled (and it is set to a single line).
The Today Screen says "XDA Live" and the about screen shows " - XDA" after the OS Build Number.
Pressing & Holding the Comm Button toggles the between Vibrate & Normal.
PDAViet Memory Leak Fix is Applied.
Disabled the warning for Unsigned Applications (Application Lock)
Misc:
I have added two "Classic RingTones, (OldPhone-US.wma and OldPhone-UK.wav) for those of us who want to get away from the music and chirping Ringers.
I have removed all carrier customizations, no need to soft reset to avoid customization!
Current Known Issues:
The only real issue is that I am bound by a promise to my source to not distribute this Rom until the Carrier releases it or I can get ALL IDENTIFYING INFORMATION removed from it. trust me, I am working on it but there is absolutely no room for errors. Ironically the Rom seems more stable since I've modified it than it was when I received it.
Goals to work on:
Embed TCPMP v0.71RC and Codex Files.
Dropped or moved to low priority:
Voice Command Abandoned... It was proving too troublesome and there are too many reasons (language and dialing rule differences) to not embed it.
Dropped embedding a replacement Calculator, two many personal preferences, they are all lightweight and we can each add our fav later.
As for adjusting how the memory is used, if someone knows how to do that I'm all ears but if it requires shifting things in the image and hex editing it then I think we might hit the NAND Block Issue again.
BTW, this truly is a group effort.
Without pof & team unlocking I never would have even gone looking for the base Rom.
aChef by aklok_hk is doing the heavy lifting.
Sleuth, ShogunMark, Faria ViJay555, Bepe, Maimach have all been instrumental either directly or indirectly in this project.
Des and the SSPL was another step that got me to this point.
Of course there are all of the guys who have been doing this before I bought my first PPC Phone, they blazed the trail I simply walk behind them.
Finally, I can't forget my unnamed source. They took a big change passing this along to me. Without that trust I'd be cooking AKU 3.3 right now.

piopawlu said:
Hmm, but what you need these themes for? I guess it would be cool if there was no unnecessary stuff you can always download later.
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Today themes are small, I would like to include the HTC Standard as well as Carrier Themes for at least the major carriers just as a way to allow us to brand this Rom without having to use any of our storage memory.
Initial Rom will not have any added apps, just clean & stable though I might embed The Hermes Tweaker.

This will be great. I am all for a minimal clean rom. No Addons just crossbow. HTC is fine for me. Just my opinion.
Can't wait.
Thanks

xultar said:
Give it a code name...something cool like L-Cars 8525!!!!
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mother_of_all_Hermes_roms.rar???
I think you should post with a boot screen dedicated to the legal department @ M$.
-mix

Plans to release...
First I will confirm that this IS NOT an AKU 3.3 Rom.
I have successfully removed most of the identifying info that could lead back to my source (I believe).
Now I'm adding a few things back in like the Press & Hold Comm button for Vibrate Toggle Fix, Today Themes for Carriers and my favorite Ringtone (OldPhone.wma).
I am waiting for a response from my source regarding the info I've cleaned out (I want their approval before I share as I don't want to burn my source).
I hope that this will all happen in less than 1 week.

kyphur said:
First I will confirm that this IS NOT an AKU 3.3 Rom.
I have successfully removed most of the identifying info that could lead back to my source (I believe).
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now you got me interested

kyphur said:
How about "XDA-Lives" WMx Rom!!!!
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About 10 minutes in photoshop and a few pictures from google.... a start on a boot screen.
-mix

mixmaven said:
About 10 minutes in photoshop and a few pictures from google.... a start on a boot screen.
-mix
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AHHH! But aren't we getting ahead of ourselves? I see you have WM6 on that pic. What if he's acutally ported Linux to it? Uhhh... wait a second, nevermind.

Nice, I suspect this will be a BIG relase, nice work!

now that people are cooking up some ROMs now, maybe someone can make seperate .cab files for different carriers with all the data settings in it so we can load our internet settings right away after we install cooked ROMs...

A good thing to add to the ExtROM COULD be a feature i noticed on an early iMate rom i used on my hermes. When it was going ahead with the "customisation..." screen it would ask what carrier you are on?! Then IT would apply the appropriate GPRS/MMS settings?!
May be just laziness on my part but would be a COOL feature.

mrvanx said:
A good thing to add to the ExtROM COULD be a feature i noticed on an early iMate rom i used on my hermes. When it was going ahead with the "customisation..." screen it would ask what carrier you are on?! Then IT would apply the appropriate GPRS/MMS settings?!
May be just laziness on my part but would be a COOL feature.
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I'm at work now, but from the dutch Qtek site www.qtek.nl you can download a cab file with all the settings from the dutch telecom providers.
If you can't find it I can upload it when I get home tonight.

Would be good If we could collect all the Operator cabs and maybe put them on the ftp?
Probably better than clogging up a ROM with them!?
(LOL il get to work TRYING to track down the O2 one)

Settings Files
Here's Imate and Telstra .tsk, if still needed. Thanks for your great work!
here's the dopod 838 pro .tsk
Does the new os actually close programs or still leave them open when you tap the x-button? If so, what about adding HTC_X-Button.cab?
People can always turn it off if they don't want it.
I also load the two tools below, I think just about everyone uses psshutxp and dictionary editor allows you to get rid of those annoying words you misspell and your phone remembers.... They are all pretty small, but extremely useful.
-mix
here goes the official o2 germany tsk file and the o2 germany internet-flatrate wap settings plus the o2 germany mms settings.
if you need a quicktool that can select what to install i can whip that up in c real quick
oli, i wouldnt cook the gps driver just yet.. we need to play with it on wm6.0 to see if its ok..

question besides:
is it necessary to implement vc? especially if the us version isn`t able to deal with with commands in other languages!
anyway, sounds awesome!!!

ibanyard said:
Are you installing apps via ExtRom? I'd suggest against having the apps installed as part of the base rom, some of these apps get updated on a fairly regular basis......
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As you can see, my list of imbedded apps is intentionally short:
1-Calc Lite (replaced Calculator Shortcut in Start Menu)
HTweakC v2.1
PHM Registry Editor
SMS Backup
StartClean
Microsoft Voice Command v1.6 (US)
HTweakC might see some updates but that would be easy to install the new version over and only loose would be the benefit of saving storage Rom.
By embedding these into the Rom we save several Megs of Storage RAM.
Okay, I'll also confirm this is WM6
Also, added Telsta.tsk, i-mate Grass.tsk, i-mate Swoosh.tsk.
I will not be adding other apps to this Rom. If someone wants to gather carrier Data Connections Cabfiles I would be happy to embedd them directly into the Rom (these settings seldom change).
I think I will add the 8525 eyboard Fix Cab file (but not install it) into the Rom.
Currently working on an XML error in the section of code that would place Voice Command into the Rom.
The other apps are all considered stable versions.

jammerlappen said:
question besides:
is it necessary to implement vc? especially if the us version isn`t able to deal with with commands in other languages!
anyway, sounds awesome!!!
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Once I have it in good I can easily generate a parallel Rom without it (I am writing scripts to run the tools which build the Rom so skipping sections is trivial.

CCRDude said:
I myself don't need PHM Registry Editor since I'm using Total Commander with its integrated registry editor plugin, which I find easier to navigate the registry. And I don't need yet-another-way-too-simple-calculator and would prefer a scientific one with RPN (I always hit the wrong keys on non-RPN-calculators ), like RayRPN.
But if having his preferences on the device is the price to pay for using this "very special rom"... well, as long as we're able to hide them from the start menu/programs menu, I'll gladly pay it
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You can delete the shortcuts for anthing you don't like.
Personally I use Resco for Registry & File operations but PHM is simply and requires not install so you have Registry Editing out of the box.
I'll look at RayRPN, I just hate the stupid PPC Calc (still same as the old CE Calc). I love the tip calculator and unit conversion functions of 1-calc.
Again once the integration is done, I can easily generate a 100% plain Rom with no carrier tsk files, images or settings. I figue I'll make use of the time while I wait for approval to release....

HerrVorragend said:
WOW - it's realy WM6??
When will you upload it?
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Please, if you read the thread you will see that I am waiting for my source to approve the Rom (to be sure I have removed everything that could trace it back even close to them - got to protect the source).
I am hoping to have it out in days (no more than 1 week).

kyphur said:
Please, if you read the thread you will see that I am waiting for my source to approve the Rom (to be sure I have removed everything that could trace it back even close to them - got to protect the source).
I am hoping to have it out in days (no more than 1 week).
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Hi kyphur,
I think you can consider to put in the rom the ext rom unhide!

{Open to Suggestions} How Lite do you want it?

I will be doing one/two more lite roms based on supa dupa lite but will be opened to suggestions.
So far I have been asked to removed acrosoft mms and make it available as cab which will give us total storage rom app 80mb.
So please put forward your suggestions and I will try to make it as suitable for everyone and at the same time as lite for who wants it and if that is ok I could do a full rom

Here are mine suggestions:
Remove Pocket RAR, X-Button, Network Wizard, SMS backup, bring back WM6 default dialer .
I actually need MMS in there, ArcSoft MMS 4.2 seems better then 4.0 and 4.1 so you might considare getting it in
About HTCustom errors, I am quite sure it is caused by kaiser comm manager, try it and see for yourself
Thats it from me..

i hope you can remove everything and provide cabs for everything. and ths cabs should work. and i hate to search for cabs, you should post all "known to work with your rom" in your rom thread.
and thx for your hard work,
regards chief

Shamanix said:
Here are mine suggestions:
Remove Pocket RAR, X-Button, Network Wizard, SMS backup, bring back WM6 default dialer .
I actually need MMS in there, ArcSoft MMS 4.2 seems better then 4.0 and 4.1 so you might considare getting it in
About HTCustom errors, I am quite sure it is caused by kaiser comm manager, try it and see for yourself
Thats it from me..
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I might do two lite roms one similar to supa dupa and one just bare back which hopefully I should get about 85 mb storage free and supplied cabs but Rom would be hopefully available by this weekend as I have been tied at work just coming from holiday.
thanks for your appreciation to my roms everyone.

Chiefcooker said:
i hope you can remove everything and provide cabs for everything. and ths cabs should work. and i hate to search for cabs, you should post all "known to work with your rom" in your rom thread.
and thx for your hard work,
regards chief
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Thanks mate
I might do two lite roms one similar to supa dupa and one just bare back which hopefully I should get about 85 mb storage free and supplied cabs but Rom would be hopefully available by this weekend as I have been tied at work just coming from holiday.
thanks for your appreciation to my roms everyone.

For me the lite versions should be totaly free of software - those from microsoft and those in CABs like htc home.
They could be in extrom that the user could decide if to install them
More storage! More free ram!

at1z0r said:
For me the lite versions should be totaly free of software - those from microsoft and those in CABs like htc home.
They could be in extrom that the user could decide if to install them
More storage! More free ram!
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that is exactly what i am looking for "a totaly clean rom"
now that we can find cabs for almost any oem or third party progs it would be great to have a rom in which you could decide what exactly you want to install and you can always uninstall easily.
hopefully you get time this weekend. this is a great idea.

I would take out all help files, remove all advanced BT features(like a2dp, SAP).
remove the STK(sim tool kit - it runs on boot every time!!)

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elivne said:
I would take out all help files, remove all advanced BT features(like a2dp, SAP).
remove the STK(sim tool kit - it runs on boot every time!!)
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that doesnt sound too bad. just had a quick try with taking mms out and the other programs i.e network plugin and I have
80.58mb total free 77.47 and free prgram 33.03mb

duttythroy (and bebe) 80.58mb total free 77.47 and free prgram 33.03mb is just incredable!!!! Great work.....

kool
galaxys said:
duttythroy (and bebe) 80.58mb total free 77.47 and free prgram 33.03mb is just incredable!!!! Great work.....
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and thats me just taking 5 mins to do a quick rom, i will review the threads for what the people want and do two roms a bare back rom with almost nothing but still functional with all the necessities that is toch dial,comm, start clean. other rom will be identical to supa dupa but remove some small bits

Hi,
The lite version should be held in the Kaiser Style.
- 3G Kaiser Dialer
- 3G Kaiser Comm Manager
- Windows Media Player with Kaiser Skin
Everything else can do away
- Pocket RAR
- SMS Backup
- x - Button
- Network Wizard
Who needs the individual components can it install as it wants.
A completely small system, on which everyone needs installed which it.
MfG
S64

I have a question. Is there any way to get rid of Windows Media Player ? I hate it, i don't use it it's useless..
I was wondering alswo is there any way to remove pictures and video? I'm using resco picture viewer so the alternate program takes more storage.
That's only suggestion

switch dialer to 2G please.. and keep BT stuff.. why the hell would u want to remove BT stuff? i still wanna use my ear peice!

I am after a totally clean clean rom with the basics only and all the rest as CABs.
Is there a list somewhere which tells one what all those cryptic files/folders are in the ROM, thinking of removing stuff myself..
Cheers!

Third post nailed it!
Chiefcooker said:
i hope you can remove everything and provide cabs for everything. and ths cabs should work. and i hate to search for cabs, you should post all "known to work with your rom" in your rom thread.
and thx for your hard work,
regards chief
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I'm quoting the third post ... and there isnt anything else needed to be said ... Chiefcooker nailed it! Especially that last line, "Thanks for your hard work"!

Were I good enough to make a super lite rom, here are some guidelines I might employ:
TAKE OUT PROGRAMS THAT ARE:
1) upgraded regularly (X-button, WMP, Arcsoft, etc.)
or
2) that have superior replacements (file explorer, PIE, contacts, etc.)
AND
3) that don't affect the stability of the ROM
LEAVE ANYTHING THAT:
1) can't be found and reinstalled quickly from a .cab file (maybe A2DP... not too sure of examples here)
2) affects the stability of the ROM
REPLACE NECESSITIES w/ LATEST AND GREATEST:
For things that can't be left out: dialer, comm manager, and etc. Go with the latest and flashiest versions of these rather than saving a couple hundred K.

I figured it would be just a matter of time before someone made a minimal ROM with all apps/features as cabs. That would eliminate having to cook ROMs for different tastes. It would be more time efficient for ROM cookers to focus on carrier/driver/OS functionality.

Leave 'Clear Storage', 'Error Reporting' , 'ClearType Tuning' 'Internet Sharing' all the standard themes, pictures and smilies out. No templates for Word etc.
Basically I agree with everyone else, leave only the needed programs and delete anything that can be found in CAB form for others to instal. 'Video Dialing' could be left in. I like the Kaiser style comm manager

AFAIK..
1.) When you try to take out the Windows Media Player, it starts creating problems, so it can`t be taken out of the ROM..
2.) ArcSoft MMS doesn`t work when you install it as a cab, it needs to be integrated into the ROM for some reason..

ROM: 3rd WM 6.5 ROM for hTC P3300-P3350_Artemis&Love[WM6.5 Beta 21159] 17-Feb 09 !!!

ROM: 3rd WM 6.5 ROM for hTC P3300-P3350_Artemis&Love[WM6.5 Beta 21159] 17-Feb 09 !!!
3rd rom from dheewatara-s:
http://www.pdamobiz.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=200154&PN=985
http://rapidshare.com/files/199086096/Pawaj_65.7z.html
+CHOME
+ ie6
- No MMS
- PDA+radio
http://rapidshare.com/files/199080532/Pawaj_65_M2D.7z.html
+CHOME
+ M2D IPhone Style
+ ie6
- No MMS
- PDA +radio

Testing
I have installed and testing now.
The above pictures shows Program Free Memory as 16.68MB but actual is as below.
At Fresh boot Storage Free 44.44MB and Programs Free 22.63 MB
Download Link from Rapidshare with IE6: http://rapidshare.com/files/197880124/WM6_5_3rd21159.rar

Download in progressing,will flash later today & give feedback...
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3rd rom from dheewatara-s:
http://www.pdamobiz.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=200154&PN=985
http://www.mediafire.com/?jibyejhwmmg
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- No MMS
- PDA Part only
http://www.mediafire.com/?gjwyltz3w4o
No ie6
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Although my Artemis shows 60 % free program memory, this ROM is still painfully slow.

i've download now n will try...

Thanks for the rom!
Like user above, runs very slow on the main menu but once in file explorer etc it's just as fast.
Time to upgrade the phone??

3rd wm 6.5 rom p3300
I have tried all 3 version of this ROM,
nice look but very very slow on my artemis.
today TITANIUM good, Honeyconbs slooooow other apll quite fast,
IGO8 breeze, tt7 slow.
I hope that some1 can make this fast than today.

it was lag & makes my phone hang... this ROM requires more RAM...
anyway thanks uploader... something new...

tested it for 20 minutes.
TOO SLOW on Artemis.

downloaded and tested for a day or so now
the titanium is better than in previous versions, seems to run smoothly and integrates well at last...good to see the clock finally making a propper appearance in there
also the first chance to play with the new honeycomb interface.
unfortunately the jury is still out on this one.
my view is that it's more of a hinderance than anything else at the moment.
This totally replaces the start menu. Click on the start button and you're taken straight into the honeycomb interface. I wasn't expecting this behaviour from it...i thought it would be more of a today plugin replacement or something, and if it's going to behave like this on new roms it needs to be
a)quick
and
b) easy for you to find your programs or settings that you want.
Personally i dont think it does this yet.
You can click and hold to bring any app into the "favourites" part of the comb, which means you can now "pin" your favourite apps...mcuh like your last used apps used to automatically appear at the top of the start menu.
Unfortunately i think finding anything more than you favourite 5 or 10 progs would quickly become a real pain in the ass.
let me give a quick random example
on a "classic" style rom, let say you want to go to the "SMS SETTINGS" app....you'll go to start , settings, hit the communications tab at the bootom and choose SMS SETTINGS
on this i'll go to start, straight into the honeycomb. From experience i know that it's not in here (which is good becuase this is now a looong page to look in) so i choose the SETTINGS cell. now all i can see is 7 cells and remember there are no tabs here anymore so this is ALL of your settings. I've got About, backlight, bluetooth, buttons , certification, and clocks and alarms. Anything else i have to start randomly scrolling and searching so i start moving downwards. Eventually find it on the 12th cell on the left That's 12 'Down clicks'. If i wanted WLAN SETTINGS or something i would have to do a lot more scrolling. Everything is alphabetically sorted which helps, but it's a 3 colum system and so you still need to read ALL of the available options and you need to know EXACTLY what that app is called (is it TOMTOM or NAVIGATION? Is it under T or N ? etc...you get the gist)
I hope they are still experimenting with this interface becuase i think it looks good and COULD, if done right, be a really nice feature for the WM6.5 system...but it still needs some fundamental work before it works well. Remember how, from the concept art, we through it would be a 2d scrolling 'intellingent' list...it's not. It's stricly up and down alphabetical.
I can't quite put my finger on what it IS that's wrong with it...but there is SOMETHING...it just takes too lonk to find what you need at the moment. Maybe it's just unfamiliarity and it'll all become clear after a few days use, after all i've had 5 years of experience with the old system...the same as lots of people switch vista and XP's interface into win2k mode becuase they know where everything is. I always plead with those gus to stick with it and learn the newer systems becuase they usually DO make sense....but this time i cant see it yet
The new lock mechanism also needs some work. they've obviously tried to emulate a slide-to-unlock mechanism without making it TOO similar to the iphone....unfortunately this means that you get the small blue slider we've all seen on the screenshots at the top-center of the screen and sliding it 1cm or 2 to either the left or right unnlocks. I personally think this gives too much scope for accidental unlocking. I mentioned in another thread a while back about how a "shake to unlock" feature would be self defeating. the point of a lock is to make sure that when the phone wakes up becuase of incomming texts or whatever the phone doesnt totally wake up and end up accidentally resetting all of your calendar appointements or calling people while it's in your pocket....you need it to be HARD to unlock accidentally, but not hard to unlock intentionally. The balance is not quite right here either, same as the honeycomb.
it's still in beta and hopefully the whole thing just needs those last few "tweaks" to the functionality and ergonomics before it too "makes sense" but right now i'm more than willing to switch back to dhee's last manilla rom....it's just easier to use. I hope i'm right and that this rom is in BETA for both reliabiliy AND functionality reasons.
theres a lot of potential, but it isn't there yet.
these comments are ALL down to the mew 6.5 system, NOT dhee's rom, which seems to have done everything it can with what it's been given. Considering the clumsyness of the new interface etc this is as good as i could hope for a 6.5 beta rom to be, and i will install his next rom without ANY hesitation.
for anyone wanting to try the new features out, this is the rom to go for, but i wouldn't blame anyone for not keeping it for too long
thanks again dhee for a great rom, i just hope you get an improved system to pass on to us next. I'll probably leave this one for another day or so to see if it grows on me, jstu like i gave XP and vista's new interfaces a chance.

he's now updated it with an M2D version, link : http://pirun.ku.ac.th/~fscinrn/Download/Pawaj_65_M2D.7z
will flash and let you know, i'm not convinced there's enough room on this rom for M2D too but who knows, he usually pulls it off well
NOTE the download is ONLY an NBH file

rom 6.5 M2D NEW
I have flashed 3 times my artemis with this ROM but always, after reboot wake up one error and auto reboot, so, for me is not working
I hope that someone can fix it.

rossomalpelo said:
I have flashed 3 times my artemis with this ROM but always, after reboot wake up one error and auto reboot, so, for me is not working
I hope that someone can fix it.
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Same result ... And i flash once - device reboot, show me white screen, show error message and reboot again. Back to YuE WM 6.1 firmware. Waiting for stable release.

yeah, the M2D version didnt work for me....reverted back to his earlier 6.5 Beta 2 version with M2D becuase i dont think the honeycomb and titanium is quite ready yet

very very slow.. also the menu is not very much clear

d-signet said:
he's now updated it with an M2D version, link : http://pirun.ku.ac.th/~fscinrn/Download/Pawaj_65_M2D.7z
will flash and let you know, i'm not convinced there's enough room on this rom for M2D too but who knows, he usually pulls it off well
NOTE the download is ONLY an NBH file
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This one is not from dheewatara, and was one of the first roms to include WM6.5.
So far DJ M2D WM6.5 5.0 UL is the quickest and smoothest.

i found DJ M2D WM6.5 5.0 UL to be the same speed as the 2nd rom with M2D from dheewatara, but dheewatara's rom has the newer camera version (with panorama mode) and a slightly newer rom version if i remember correctly. I'm sticking with that one for now

we beg pardon for my terrible English :-[ , I wanted hear there is version room without additional programs ( light ) plz give reference

Hi ppl,
All the links give error .... not found....
Can someone give me a positive link?

Hi any re-uploaded links?
Thanks

Mutiple programs won't stay open on my Tilt 2

I've had my Tilt 2 for several weeks now and for some reason, I cannot seem to have more than one app open at the same time. As soon as I open a second program, it kills whatever else was running.
Does anyone else have this problem or know how to fix it? I have Auto Kill disabled...
Help!?

It also happens with my Hermes and Raphael..
My Hermes (Dopod 838 pro) running official WM6 ROM
My Raphael (HTC Touch Pro) running stock WM6.1 ROM (Version 1.9)
It's a big problem, I can't keep my Twitter,downloader, and Messenger app to run at the background..

silverfoxx said:
I've had my Tilt 2 for several weeks now and for some reason, I cannot seem to have more than one app open at the same time. As soon as I open a second program, it kills whatever else was running.
Does anyone else have this problem or know how to fix it? I have Auto Kill disabled...
Help!?
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So let's say you open File Explorer. You press the Windows button. Now you open Word Mobile and make a new document. Now press the Windows button and go to Home. It still says you closed everything in the HTC Task Manager?
If so, that's weird... looks like you bought yourself an iPhone with a keyboard!

For some unknown reason Windows Mobile 6.x will only run a maximum of 32 processes at one time no matter how much RAM is free. This includes all the basic phone etc that's running.
Clever eh ?
That's some amazing forward thinking Microsoft did. It obviously didn't occur to them that someone might come along and release a device with a faster processor and a load of RAM.
Find yourself a process manager program, not the HTC taskmanager. While typing this I had a quick look and I am running 28.

As I recall, WinMo will close apps if it runs low on memory so the first thing I would do is reboot the phone and bring up task manager and see how much free memory you have left. Then keep watching memory as you do what you normally do with the phone. It's not how WinMo is supposed to act by default and my phone doesn't act that way so it's either an app, how you use it or a hardware fault.

markgamber said:
As I recall, WinMo will close apps if it runs low on memory so the first thing I would do is reboot the phone and bring up task manager and see how much free memory you have left. Then keep watching memory as you do what you normally do with the phone. It's not how WinMo is supposed to act by default and my phone doesn't act that way so it's either an app, how you use it or a hardware fault.
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Lots of threads on this, and no, it's NOT memory. It's processes.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=575663
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=600210
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=600356

Is there any solution to break this limit?
dik23 said:
For some unknown reason Windows Mobile 6.x will only run a maximum of 32 processes at one time no matter how much RAM is free. This includes all the basic phone etc that's running.
Clever eh ?
That's some amazing forward thinking Microsoft did. It obviously didn't occur to them that someone might come along and release a device with a faster processor and a load of RAM.
Find yourself a process manager program, not the HTC taskmanager. While typing this I had a quick look and I am running 28.
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Is there any solution to break this limit (32 processes)..

Not seen one. If you do plz give me a shout ! Don't even know if it'd be possible. To me it seems like it could be a Kernel level issue.

How can I see all running processes?

blowy666 said:
How can I see all running processes?
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install dotfred's taskmanager.

I use everapp.. http://www.modaco.com/content/pocke...app-v0-2-application-persistence-under-wm6-x/
it installs a service which runs when u boot up ur phone and u just add w/e programs u want to everapp and it'll keep them running in the bg..great for opera 10 which never stays open for me

try everapp, http://www.modaco.com/content/pocke...app-v0-2-application-persistence-under-wm6-x/

Hi i have tried on Omnia Pro B7610 to avoid auto-closing of apps but the result is not satisfactorie, as everapp is also stopped and besides i cant launch the app (excel or word) from the shorcut after the taskmanager autoclose these. If you have some usefull information regarding this issue i will appreciate it.

New tilt 2 owner. Have questions

Ive been a previous tilt owner for about 2 years and I just upgraded to the tilt 2. First thing I did was install spb mobile shell. I think its so much better then touchflo 3d. Im also using the kaiser tweaks. Ive never looked into using different ROM's. I think im nervous about installing something like that.
Ive noticed when leaving the phone on overnight (about 8 hours) it uses 10% battery life. The original tilt would use 1-2%. I dont have email set-up (ive heard that eats battery life), why is the phone using so much battery life?
There seems to be so much memory being used right when the phone turns on. About 113 megs. I feel like the phone runs pretty fast but I know it can run faster. Is using cooked ROM my only choice here?
I mainly use the phone for the internet and text messages. Im using opera mini 5. Is there any way delete opera mobile or is that integrated into the phone like internet explorer is? How can I make opera mini the "default" web browser?
I used the kaiser tweaks to enable HSPDA. Right after I did this, I noticed the "H" icon but after I restarted, it went away and hasnt come back? Any reason for this? I looked at the "tilt 2 data speed fix 1.0.cab" but when I goto start/settings/connections/advanced network there is no option to enable HSPDA. Only PAP and CHAP
How do I remove some of the programs on the phone that I never plan to use?
THANKS

Welcome aboard
I recommend installing a cooked ROM, it´s faster than any stock ROM and you will get rid of all garbage that slows your Rhodium.

bentz69 said:
How do I remove some of the programs on the phone that I never plan to use?
THANKS
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A lot of the programs on there (including the default opera install) are cooked into the stock ROM and are unremovable, unfortunately.
However, Crud Scraper will help clear out a lot of the stuff AT&T slipped in on top of the ROM. It won't get rid of everything you'll never use, but it can still clear a fair amount of space for you.

I'd like to add that it has been my experience, that frequent use of the internet does drain the battery much more quickly.
If you go cooked, choose your rom wisely. Some are configured more for business while others are more for fun.
I haven't done it myself, as I don't go online too much, but I have heard that sending your cache to your sd will help. Again, I haven't tried it myself, but Advanced Config (if my memory is right) does this, so does MemMaid.
Finally reclaim your ram throughout the day, shut down programs that may be running in the background, but that you are not currently using, and make minor adjustments and tweaks which will help you consume less resources, which will in turn help save your life.

Just downloaded MemMaid. Are any of these startup programs optional?
poutlook.lnk
BTTrayCE.lmk
MessageCSPTool.lnk
DelWMPTempFolder.lnk
HTCStartup.lnk
PKG.lnk
Is there any way to add Icons with shortcuts to spb mobile shell? Id like to make a youtube shortcut and even a MemMaid shortcut. All I see is "add widgets" but it doesnt allow and option to add my own

^Nevermind about the shortcut, I figured that out

bentz69 said:
Just downloaded MemMaid. Are any of these startup programs optional?
poutlook.lnk
BTTrayCE.lmk
MessageCSPTool.lnk
DelWMPTempFolder.lnk
HTCStartup.lnk
PKG.lnk
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I do not have an answer, and welcome any chefs to address this, as I myself have wondered what things I can remove from startup!!

bentz69 said:
Just downloaded MemMaid. Are any of these startup programs optional?
poutlook.lnk
BTTrayCE.lmk
MessageCSPTool.lnk
DelWMPTempFolder.lnk
HTCStartup.lnk
PKG.lnk
Is there any way to add Icons with shortcuts to spb mobile shell? Id like to make a youtube shortcut and even a MemMaid shortcut. All I see is "add widgets" but it doesnt allow and option to add my own
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1) Needed for automatic download of e-mails.
2) Bluetooth support.
3) HTC messager.
4) Deletes WMP's temp (like it says in title)
5) Starts services that creates missing icons whatever.
6) Needed, won't recommend delete it.

Jackos said:
1) Needed for automatic download of e-mails.
2) Bluetooth support.
3) HTC messager.
4) Deletes WMP's temp (like it says in title)
5) Starts services that creates missing icons whatever.
6) Needed, won't recommend delete it.
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Thanks Jackos, and considering how awesome your roms have been I trust this info completely!! I appreciate you taking the time to clarify that for all of us non-chefs.
Could you please tell me what the following does, and is it safe to delete...
1-Instant Forward
2-ysrem
Thank you in advance.

You're welcome.
I don't have your shortcuts, so I assume they're from some installed programs.
From my experience you may delete all those shortcuts and the phone will boot anyway Just keep in mind that your programs may not work correctly if you delete too much