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AT&T claims no kaiser in august and wm6 not ready for 8525 until end Q3.

Allways remember never believe anything about att, you will be waiting years for a rumor. You can buy a 8525 with wm6 at att store but the upgrade is not ready. that why I wouldn't get my hopes up about the kaiser.

freeborock said:
Allways remember never believe anything about att, you will be waiting years for a rumor. You can buy a 8525 with wm6 at att store but the upgrade is not ready. that why I wouldn't get my hopes up about the kaiser.
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WHere are you getting this info from ?

A source of mind that test att devices, said the kaiser is coming soon but not that soon. Allways remember AT&T has a 8 week test period for everything. An there's a video with the att rom, I wil post the link tomorrow.

You can't buy the 8525 with WM6 (at least not right now).
Upgradeable to Windows® Mobile 6.0 - Available Q3 2007
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Source: http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-phone-service/cell-phone-details/?device=AT&T+8525&q_sku=sku970003

You will be surprised when you open the box and your phone has wm6 and its not september!

freeborock said:
A source of mind that test att devices, said the kaiser is coming soon but not that soon. Allways remember AT&T has a 8 week test period for everything. An there's a video with the att rom, I wil post the link tomorrow.
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we have the AT&T WM6 ROM's for the Kaiser... and we know all about it...

MOD - PLEASE DELETE THIS THREAD!! THis has nothing to do with WM6! @ the person who started this thread - stop posting information that number one - isnt true and number two - has nothing to do with the forum you're posting in.
-Nstefanelli-

Did you click the little "report post" button instead of bumping the thread?
Nope.

I'm closing the thread. The OP can PM me if he feels he has some real facts to post regarding the topic.

The windows mobile 6.5 (news)

I thought everyone who owns an excalibur should know about this...
http://www.electronista.com/articles/08/11/07/windows.mobile.65.a.go/

When an article is 3 months old, it's no longer considered news. It's olds.

xatzis5000 said:
I thought everyone who owns an excalibur should know about this...
http://www.electronista.com/articles/08/11/07/windows.mobile.65.a.go/
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Already available for some PPC users, M$ kicked off today @ XDA and got the item removed... Doubt any of the Dash users will see WM6.5 unless someone ports it, as no new ROMs have been officialy produced and not even an official WM6.1...
So we can dream and wait till the Dash 2 and see what we get?
lol @ post above was didn't even read the link

stylez said:
Already available for some PPC users, M$ kicked off today @ XDA and got the item removed... Doubt any of the Dash users will see WM6.5 unless someone ports it, as no new ROMs have been officialy produced and not even an official WM6.1...
So we can dream and wait till the Dash 2 and see what we get?
lol @ post above was didn't even read the link
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I think the 6.5 will be ported on the phone!It doesnt have so many diferences..
Its still wm6 whit updates on it!
We will wait n see..

xatzis5000 said:
I think the 6.5 will be ported on the phone!It doesnt have so many diferences..
Its still wm6 whit updates on it!
We will wait n see..
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A big difference is that it will be for a different device
I know what the difference is and have run WM6.5 "Hybrid" (Without the new homescreen) on Tilt, it will take someones time to port it so we will see?

stylez said:
A big difference is that it will be for a different device
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True!! But i think that they will going to reallese it on a simular divice!Maybe not... The phone will handle the new wm6.5(if someone ports it) roms im sure!
I have an old qtek 8310 and it runs wm6.1 smooth and yet the model is soo old..
You understand what im trying to say right?

Windows Phone 7 Series on the HD2

I know most of you who clicked this thread would probably think this is another thread that asked if it was possible. Well I'm here to share the great news to HD2 owners... http://htcpedia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2381 read it up!
Apparently a russian team has been working on it and looks like theyre working (from screenshots) and a beta release should be soon
PS MOD: if it is against the rules to paste links from htcpedia pls delete thread. thanks
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driver of hardware button not yet finish , but 2/5 button working right now , Start button and back button , maybe search button will remap to home button later , Call and End Call button not works right now
Source
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I seems like an early April fools thing.

vangrieg said:
I seems like an early April fools thing.
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Again, no video. It's easy to fake screenshots. On the other hand, why would Tom destroy his reputation?
Let's wait and see...
I think I'm going to keep my HD2 a little longer. Not that it's likely that I will prefer WP7S over WM6.5 or Android, but I'm curious to try it...

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Again, no video. It's easy to fake screenshots. On the other hand, why would Tom destroy his reputation?
Let's wait and see...
I think I'm going to keep my HD2 a little longer. Not that it's likely that I will prefer WP7S over WM6.5 or Android, but I'm curious to try it...
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tom is a pretty reputable source, i dont think that he'd do that either.

It was also confirmed by a Mod in the HD2 ROM development thread. Lets wait and see..

X-BLADE™ said:
It was also confirmed by a Mod in the HD2 ROM development thread. Lets wait and see..
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For others curious, here's that thread... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=653836

C:Sharp! said:
Again, no video. It's easy to fake screenshots. On the other hand, why would Tom destroy his reputation?
Let's wait and see...
I think I'm going to keep my HD2 a little longer. Not that it's likely that I will prefer WP7S over WM6.5 or Android, but I'm curious to try it...
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easy to fake a screen shot with shadow and glare and perfect reflection...

A prominent person such as him is not a person who would let his name get dragged in the mud like that, I'm inclined to believe this is the real deal. Its alot sooner than I couldve ever hoped for, but with the lack of software available at this point anyone trying this without an IRONCLAD way of downgrading is a hopeful idiot IMO.
Still, fantastic news nonetheless.

domineus said:
easy to fake a screen shot with shadow and glare and perfect reflection...
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Of course, if you display it on the phone.
Very easy, actually.

Well, Tom actually says the pictures are coming from Russian hackers, and I'm a member at the forum where this was posted initially. These guys are very reputable and have proved more than once that they have some good sources, but they could play a joke as well.

Good sources? Afaik they just hacked an HTC server.
But you're right, those guys are credible.
Too bad they couldn't make a video, though

Video is up guys
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJCFdojbjh8

And that video doesn't look like it's that Throttle Launcher WP7 skin?

not to me...
I say bring it on though

Video seems suspicious to me as you can't see if it's really an HD2 - all you can see is a black shape. But then, these people who have done and confirmed this are indeed reputable...

My prayers have been answered. Granted, I figured it would just be a matter of time... just not this SHORT an amount of time!!!

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And that video doesn't look like it's that Throttle Launcher WP7 skin?
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Thats what im thinking, I doubt its the real deal, could be wrong though

spooke said:
Thats what im thinking, I doubt its the real deal, could be wrong though
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Guys, this is tom_codon. Just have a look about XDA, I very much doubt he would do this.
As for me, I read in the (other forum) thread that you cannot go back to WM6.5 once installed, as they had to replace the bootloader to get it to work - so this is definitely out of the question for me...

video 2 for all the doubters....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJJz_xUP3H0

Blade0rz said:
Guys, this is tom_codon. Just have a look about XDA, I very much doubt he would do this.
As for me, I read in the (other forum) thread that you cannot go back to WM6.5 once installed, as they had to replace the bootloader to get it to work - so this is definitely out of the question for me...
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If they came this far to get it on there then I'm sure that will get figured out as well.

UPDATE On HTC DESIRE OFFICE FROYO UPDATE DELAY

Called HTC today. Gentleman said that google has not released 2.2 to HTC yet for development so it definitely won't be released on 23rd (today). He said when they have it, there will be a schedule released on the front page of htc.com/www/

already got it. apparently
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why say "delay"?
HTC didn't officially say that it will be released today, 23 June.
Just my 2 cents.

Oh Goodness T_T
this is real sad.
Bet so many desire owners feels the pain =(

what to say, htc support!
:jack

Simc13 said:
what to say, htc support!
:jack
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.... How is it sad?, Google haven't released the source.....look at what roman guy said
http://www.google.com/support/forum...488da0ef21660d1300048994d2e4bf4c&hl=en&hltp=1
Everyone can start complaining once the source is released, but until then, god quit blaming HTC. and yes I know HTC probably already has the source, and has probably already updated Senseui for it, but until Google finalizes it, HTC won't release an update.

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already got it. apparently
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who's got what??

I don't want to use words like other people about lack of google's informations about any release date, unprofessionnal support, htc support etc... I'm sure they would better hire some of you guys to help them! You are the one which are giving us what we need, not google nor htc. I'm sorry, but feeling like moving to another OS, being iOS or WM7... too disappointed, sorry.

The only people you should be disappointed in are the rumourmongerers who got you thinking that some official source had promised to get you FroYo on 23 June.

jstegeman said:
The only people you should be disappointed in are the rumourmongerers who got you thinking that some official source had promised to get you FroYo on 23 June.
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You're right jstegeman... Even by myself trusting and hoping these. But I had hope in Google as well and not having any fix release date look to me unprofessionnal... the term "shortly" used by them can mean days, weeks, months... Is it so difficult to say the release date will be the xx of xx year xx and keep that date?
Sorry but this might come from my Swiss habits, having the clock's at the right time, no improvisation, organization... I hate "not knowing" and am quite impatient lol

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I don't want to use words like other people about lack of google's informations about any release date, unprofessionnal support, htc support etc... I'm sure they would better hire some of you guys to help them! You are the one which are giving us what we need, not google nor htc. I'm sorry, but feeling like moving to another OS, being iOS or WM7... too disappointed, sorry.
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Stupid comment, you got what you bought didn't you?

Riel said:
Stupid comment, you got what you bought didn't you?
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Right. I hope impatient people do move to other handsets and stop posting in the wrong section as well as creating more new threads for the same-pointless- arguments. Go outside and have some fun, walk the dog, etc.

http://translate.google.com/transla...end_story-39002365-41533741-1.htm&sl=de&tl=en
I dont know if this is true, but seems more reliable than words of a customer, lets hope for the best

zdnet is reliably.
and it ever was.
they will lost the good reputation, they worked for if this isnt true
and i dont think, they wanna risk it

This happens again and again and people believe this. Guys, first of all this is a stupid excuse from customer support.
Do you really think that Google lets HTC wait for release like the rest of us? They have been working on 2.2 from early stages too, they must if they want to release timely 2.2 devices.
Secondly, they would never ever release a froyo build before google.

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..... But I had hope in Google as well and not having any fix release date look to me unprofessionnal... ..
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Sorry Swissman,
but a new release of a OS is NOT a FIX as you defined it.
There have been fixes available on the air, and - afaik - no other os-manufacturer does release on-the-air fixes like Google does.
Moreover, you bought a mobile phone with a working os, and - always afaik - you cannot blame Google in being supposedly in delay for a new release of an OS.
What should you think then about Microsoft for Windows 7 or Apple for OS 4????? Not to talk about Meego or else.....
Please have a cup of tea and try and have a different opiniono about "unprofessionality"....

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Sorry Swissman,
but a new release of a OS is NOT a FIX as you defined it.
There have been fixes available on the air, and - afaik - no other os-manufacturer does release on-the-air fixes like Google does.
Moreover, you bought a mobile phone with a working os, and - always afaik - you cannot blame Google in being supposedly in delay for a new release of an OS.
What should you think then about Microsoft for Windows 7 or Apple for OS 4????? Not to talk about Meego or else.....
Please have a cup of tea and try and have a different opiniono about "unprofessionality"....
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He meant a FIXED date not a fix for the OS

hey seanomccool, you just got a scoop (not)!
People with some common sense knows it since a few weeks: froyo isn't officially released yet on it's primary platform, so no way it could be released today on the desire! In fact, google just told that there's no ETA yet for froyo.

dont panic m8s,it will happend soon

hyocca said:
Oh Goodness T_T
this is real sad.
Bet so many desire owners feels the pain =(
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seriously that concerned ? get a life !!

[Q] Ready for Gingerbread?

Hi guys...today google should release android 2.3 gingerbread..i don't know what's your feelings..but i'm so excited. Can't wait to see and try some porting. Within the last months we tried lots of awesome roms..and maybe we should say goodbye. I hope that the same developers start to create something new based on gingerbread. What do you think? and what are you waiting for?
personally i love sense based roms..so cant wait for one of it!
we have some stable roms before christmas?

Haven't they been releasing it for the past 4 days?

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Haven't they been releasing it for the past 4 days?
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nope..rumors says that will be released today at the summit for web 2.0
fingers crossed

giuvilas said:
nope..rumors says that will be released today at the summit for web 2.0
fingers crossed
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Current rumor says, as opposed to the last 1 or 2 rumors that turned out incorrect and the next X when this one falls through too.
Seriously announcing a mobile platform at a Web 2.0 summit? doesn't seem to fit.

giuvilas said:
nope..rumors says that will be released today at the summit for web 2.0
fingers crossed
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Haven't you upgraded to Web 2.2 yet? Maybe they'll announce Web 2.3 today

giuvilas said:
nope..rumors says that will be released today at the summit for web 2.0
fingers crossed
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Why in the world would they release Android 2.3 on a Web 2.0 summit?

What do you guys think? will there be a new UI? Hopefully it looks like the Kite UI Although i have been searching around i have not found anything on the actual gingerbread release, yet

I think gingerbread is 3.0 not 2.3

Any word about the integration in Gingerbread of that fancy virtual keyboard Google bought a few weeks ago?

shockem said:
What do you guys think? will there be a new UI? Hopefully it looks like the Kite UI Although i have been searching around i have not found anything on the actual gingerbread release, yet
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Gingerbread is likely just to be an iteration of the OS, Honeycomb or (3.0) is likely to be the reworked candidate... What they have probably done is set the base ready for UI rework which will be completed by the next release.. That's my thought anyway. So yea, expect changes, but only tweaks, just like we got in 2.2.
Either way, it'll be well worth the upgrade!

Moved to General as not development.
Post What Where:
General - general technical discussion items, news, anything else that does not fit into the other fora categories.
Q&A (Questions and Answers) - all questions, irrespective of type, get posted in here whether they be theme related, accessory related, technical, etc.
Accessories - any items to do with components and/or accessories relating to your device.
Rom Development - only meant for very advanced technical discussion directly related to ROM development activity and the delivery of actual ROMs and ROM components ONLY. Nothing else goes in here.
Themes & Apps - anything to do directly with the development of themes and/or applications. Nothing else goes in here.

we'll know by 11:10 pm
Supposedly, google will announce this today @ web2.0 summit.
It starts at 2:30 in San Francisco which which -8 from UK time, so 10:30PM here.
Eric Scmidt (googler) is the first speaker @ 2:35 pm local time, until 3:10.
so if he announces anything, we'll know by 11:10 UK time.

rexmundo said:
Supposedly, google will announce this today @ web2.0 summit.
It starts at 2:30 in San Francisco which which -8 from UK time, so 10:30PM here.
Eric Scmidt (googler) is the first speaker @ 2:35 pm local time, until 3:10.
so if he announces anything, we'll know by 11:10 UK time.
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I might sound stupid but what is web 2.0 summit? im trying to keep up on the gingerbread thread

ricardor973 said:
I might sound stupid but what is web 2.0 summit? im trying to keep up on the gingerbread thread
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http://tinyurl.com/2waouxb

isn't there anyone on the forum, who's like an inside man and have all the inside info.. J/k keeping my fingers crossed.

The only way we'll see Gingerbread announced is if they're bundling integrated web services in a big way which would make sense what with facebook making some big pushes with single sign in and now their mail services.
But I doubt it, it's on the ticket as a "conversation" with Eric Schmidt, someone will probably ask him a question on it and that'll be about it.
But then again, he could also have a full plate of gingerbread cookies for the whole summit!!!

We had a feeling Eric Schmidt would be doing something surprising at the Web 2.0 summit, and the man didn't disappoint -- he just showed off the Nexus S, and revealed it has NFC features, a technology he thinks will eventually replace credit cards. Unfortunately, he also called it an "unannounced phone" from an "announced manufacturer," and the logo was taped over, so we're not any closer to a release date here.
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Sauce
Nothing from Gingerbread.
Also, someone commented this on the same page
Schmidt said Gingerbread is coming out in the next few weeks... sigh. I was hoping for at least the SDK release sometime this week.
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I do not think it will be 3.0 but 2.3. And it is out on some development devices. Saw a graph showing the web statistics regarding Android and it showed all the versions including 2.2, 2.3 and 3.0, means that 3.0 is in an early development process. I cannot remember where i saw it.. sorry. [Update] I added the image I was talking about, it is from areamobile.de/news/16924-android-gingerbread-und-honeycomb-bereits-im-testbetrieb.
Another thing is that Alvaro Fuentes, member of the Open Handset Alliance, wrote in his twitter post:
Preparen sus Nexus One (Developer version) para la actualización vía OTA de Android 2.3 (Gingerbread) para los próximos días :-D 8:21 AM Nov 7th via web Retweet von 100+ Benutzern
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Link is twitter.com/kron0x/status/1308328261066752

GingerBread is 2.3, Google's been releasing it only through their BIG MOUTH. Nothing out yet.
Being frustrated after waiting for a week. Love to see the new features.
Well we will keep on waiting. Although there is a wait time till HTC releases an OTA.

heh, guess he did announce it there. Sort of anyway.