Disconnected... - Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development

Uses for a disconnected Vogue (no CDMA)???
I haven't got too many ideas... I'm hoping you folks will contribute something fun. I don't like any of the ideas much... I'll list why in parentheses.
- "Regular" PDA (I have a dedicated PDA that I like better).
- GPS (Needs too much tweaking, and lots of resets... no net on the go).
- Handheld photo album (A bit of a waste of hardware).
- Game Platform (Can't say I've found a lot of good games for it).
- Movie player (It's usually pretty sluggish for this).
- Music player (Not bad, but I don't have an adapter for standard headphones).
- Camera (Ok, it's small... but kind of crappy).
- Paperweight / conversation piece / cudgel (best idea yet).
Ok, so obviously I'm looking for input.
Does anyone have a few suggestions of other uses for this $400 skipping stone?
How can I re-map the send key so that it doesn't open the dialer (and maybe remove some of the other "phone" features)?
How about changing the ESN and etc. to match that of another phone of mine so that I can use it with my present provider???

Sell it... That's probably the best you can get out of it if you already have a phone and a PDA...

Sounds like a pretty dumb question considering you just listed all the things these are devices are good for.

socrate007 said:
Sell it... That's probably the best you can get out of it if you already have a phone and a PDA...
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I wish I could.
I'm sure it can be unlocked for use on another carrier, but Telus will no longer accept its ESN from myself or any customer (a very long and bitter story, but also boring so forget it).
More importantly, there's no market for it in my location and it's pretty remote so shipping is usually a deal-breaker.
To be honest, if I could get a Diamond, I'd toss this thing off of a very high cliff and be happy. I'd be out $400 (and whatever the Diamond costs), but I'd be satisfied.
That's not going to happen, so I'm brainstorming ways to put the thing to work for me. I'd love to have it working as a phone again, but Bell won't take it and they're my only option here. I'd use it as a webserver, but there's no WiFi.
See my problem? Still nobody with ideas?

hey man, what do you mean bell wont take it, are you saying they are actually refusing to activate on their network. ?

commandant83 said:
hey man, what do you mean bell wont take it, are you saying they are actually refusing to activate on their network. ?
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Yes, precisely. It's a Telus-branded phone.

I would put it on ebay and sell it, because there might be someone here in the U.S. that might be able to use it on one of our carriers like Cricket or metroPCS.
I remember the first phone I bought, it had Telus Mobility on it....not sure what that was about...LOL..whats even funnier is that it was a Sprint branded phone...so you can see where i'm getting at.
The phone probably could be re-programmed to work for someone else. shipping may be costly but hey its either some money in your pocket or nothing at all but a door stopper 8)
Give it a try.

fabricatedhero said:
I would put it on ebay and sell it, because there might be someone here in the U.S. that might be able to use it on one of our carriers like Cricket or metroPCS.
I remember the first phone I bought, it had Telus Mobility on it....not sure what that was about...LOL..whats even funnier is that it was a Sprint branded phone...so you can see where i'm getting at.
The phone probably could be re-programmed to work for someone else. shipping may be costly but hey its either some money in your pocket or nothing at all but a door stopper 8)
Give it a try.
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I got the "probably" thing figured out... right now it's in an unlocked state... ready to sell if need be.
I did figure out one good use that suites me... I loaded a 4gb card with http://www.soschildrensvillages.org.uk/charity-news/wikipedia-for-schools.htm and some topo maps and a bunch of other information that I've collected over the years.
I shoved it and a few cards and cash into a sleeve, and now my wallet contains a calculator, dictionary/encyclopedia, maps, etc... Stuff that I find myself consulting when I'm out with my friends or on some kind of adventure. I'm still using my iPaq as a primary PDA, but it gets babied (it's used for work) and doesn't go with me when I'm out having fun.
My to-do's:
Remove the cube.
Remove some of the phone-related options.
Remap the send/end buttons.
Find more resources / better maps.
Hack in a standard headphone jack.

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Respectfully request a thread for Pantech Duo

Greetings,
You guys have been wonderful in getting to know my good ol' phone, my Wizard 8125 (which is now suffering from serious "seizures"-as in power off and on constantly). Now I have this Duo and frankly, even though it has many features that I wanted in a smartphone, the BASICS-can't hear people they sound muffled!!!
Now I ask that since some of your software should work on the Duo that you bring together all the people that are suffering from this and many other Duo issues. I will post here what I posted on Howard forums, my review on the Duo-got it last week and I am on the infamous 30-day trial from AT&T.
Don't underestimate this chick; I took apart and put together my Wizard four times; first two to give it a good cleanup b/c my daughter decided to dip it in OJ. The other two minor fixer-uppers and my phone worked fine for +2 yrs., till last month. I wanna learn more and more on software programming but have no formal education on either. I like to figure out stuff on my own.
So before I decide to keep it and tear it apart or return this phone for something better, I will be reading along the boards what in the world I can do to get this thing to work to my advantage.
Cheerio, Chica
My post from Howard's Forum Pt. 1
My review - I got it last week
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Hi, first post here...
Got the Duo after still mourning the 8125 that is booting off and on constantly. And it was about time I renewed anyways. Here are my thoughts, still not 100% sure that I am gonna keep this one (because of what I am gonna write below I am gonna try switch it for another Duo.
PROS:
1- Got the Duo for the dual-slider. Hard to dial when in a car and I don't use my Bluetooth often. Busy mom, it is hard.
2-LOVE how clear and crisp the screen is. Bright, vivid and good enough space.
3-I know there are some users and abusers out there but I do my best to keep it in "Lock" and inside my case. The less I deal with dirt, lint, scratches the better. I will buy a screen protector though.
4-Took me a couple of days of breaking the touch-screen habit; it's like going from automatic transmission to manual. It was not easy but not as complicated as I thought it was gonna be.
5-I like the speakerphone, simply turn the phone over and adjust the volume and I can hear fine.
6-Looking forward to really modify the phone to my liking, get into as many mobile forums as i can and customize it to my lifestyle. With that said...
CONS
1-WHAT IS WITH THE MUFFLED SOUND? I read this thread SHOCKED that no one mentioned it here...perhaps in another thread. Multiple forums users complain about the same problem. Stayed last night till almost 1am doing research and getting ready to alter the unit and lookup some software to fix this issue like a patch or something; well at pantechusa.com they have a radio patch (it will wipe out whatever the phone had and bring it up to default). I hoped really that the patch would work but it didn't. I knew that by having the same version of the software on my Duo it was a 75/25 chance that it was not gonna work and unfortunately I was right.
2-JUNKWARE - The Duo has lots of them and they are really useless and take up a lot of your memory if: a-you don't have a PDA plan, and b-you don't care for them. First things first, 95% of those need the plan in order for them to function and get the most out of the Duo. Since I don't have the PDA plan ($30/mo) then these have GOT to GO.
3-Cannot adjust/distribute memory on the unit - I can stop working programs fine, but there is an area where you can see both "drives" where it stores memory. I can't go in and just click and manage it further. It is frustrating because it would make the Duo faster.
4-I suffer from the Curse Of The Worst Ringtones. Whenever I get a cell the ringtones SUCK. Which makes you wonder who this Duo was designed for, or going for which type of person.
5-MicroSD card-I got a 4 Gig SDHC and forget it, it does not work. You can see the icon top bar that it has the micro card inserted, can't see it the rest of the Duo. Big disadvantage because: Micros are evolving to SDHC and have way more room; a Duo just can't be lagging behind with technology and get stuck with a regular Micro 2 Gig card (?!?!?!). Because there is wonderful people out there that can do lots of programming and hacking, I found the solution at xda-developers from reading in this forum. Thankfully the xda people have helped me with software for my Wizard and it seems I will use their software this time around too.
6-NO WI-FI, NOT FAIR! I have wireless at home and I used to go online, Media Player, and look online for my fav radio station (from another country), listen live and with headsets, go about my business. Can't do that with this unit.
7-Battery Life-This has been brought up multiple times and yes, the first couple of days it felt I was dealing with my HP camera which sucks batteries dead in one day. Now I can deal with charging it either daily or every other day. With the 8125 because of the type of battery you HAD to charge it daily or the cellphone would pay the consequences. On this one the Pantech people say let it drain then charge it; I am not comfortable with that scenario and I hope I don't ruin the battery because I charge it halfway or down to one bar.
To me the worst are in "bold", and I expect the Pantech people to come around and fix the muffled sound-which is worse if you talk with someone from cell-to-cell. Will take the unit today to AT&T and see if by getting another Duo the problem is fixed.
Interestingly though, I am willing to give the Duo a pass if I can program it, hack it, alter it every which way I want so I can have some fun with it!
Part 2-my post on HowardForums
Forgot to add to the cons...
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On CONS, I forgot to add that in order to delete multiple files, I cannot select them with SHIFT-(Select) UP or DOWN. Do I have to delete each item one by one and not by multiple selection?
Does anybody know a way around that? thanks!
Went to AT&T today to figure out swapping the Duo...
...and I can do it only once. If I decide to try and have another Duo and the sound on that phone is just as bad as this one, I am stuck with it. If I switch for another unit, of course there is the restocking fee; now if I decide to go for a Tilt or a BlackJack II for example, I assume I'd have to pay extra for price difference.
FYI...Chica
This site is based on htc devices..... you probably have to look for other websites..... there is new new one not much up yet but here is the link.....
http://winmodevelopers.freeforums.org/
im gonna research this and create a forum for it at winmodevelopers.
youll have to be patient tho ive only got 8 users
i mean dont expect a reply straight away, but hopefully all pantech duo owners will see i can accomodate them.
thanks for the reference joel
Pantech Duo
Thanks!
I still have it, I am gonna tweak it and see if upgrading it and add/remove software it will perform better. Still have to keep the Bluetooth close, just in case a long phone call comes in.
Phone is like an ol' pair of jeans you don't wanna part with...

Can get a Rhodium in a week

Hi folks,
hmmm don´t know what to do,,,
I can get a Rhodium in a week from a guy that´s working (VIP) for a brand here in sweden, but it´s sim-locked to "3". The Topaz is coming in a month out in Sweden ( http://www.expansys.se/p.aspx?i=179083 ). Rhodium in 3-4 month´s. The guys that can sim-unlock use a method with the code when you put another sim-card, but "3" in Sweden have another system, when you put sim-card from another operator it says SIM CARD FAILURE.
hmmm I realy don´t want to use "3" as my operator.
But on the other hand can´t realy wait to have it in my hands.
after buying a whole bunch of phones.. I say wait.... it's not worth it if you have to hack and hack to make it work, unless you truly enjoy doing it.
Listen to LoopTroop and calm down.
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TouchPro2 no Flash.
Just Stick to your TouchPro:
1. NO CAMERA FLASH:
To HTC... Accept the fact that we end-up relying to the phones
camera; Who wants to go to a PARTY!!! WhooooWho!!, Activity or
to anywhere.... ohhh! wait [email protected]*# WITH a Camera and a phone (2
devices to carry with).... VEEERY UNCOMFORTABLE it is, NO PARTY
WILL BE.
2. DON'T FALL FOR IT: Thinnnk!
They did this:
- Removed the TILT capabilities from the TouhPro, and added Flash (a mayor for decent pics).
- Removed the FLASH from TP2, and leaved same camera 3.2.
- Infra RED from tilt, ETC, ETC, ETC.
Whyyyy???? THEY DID IT ON PURPOSE....BECAUSE THEY WANTED US TO
BUY THE TP2, or in other words FORCED US to UPGRADE.
It is ALL well planed.
Besides the Bigger Screen, Dual Speakers, Dual Microphones and
the more stylish design IMO (None of them are reason for
upgrade), the only thing worth for an upgrade is the
integration and usability of the TouchFlo 3D that integrates
with the OS and overall apps "PEOPLE CENTRIC", VERY GOOD, and will help you avoid 3rd parties Apps.
but......
.... Thank GOD, Angels, and whoever you believe in, that
XDA-Developers exist, BECAUSE I will just STICK with my
TouchPRO and will Integrate the TP2 Software into my
device, until TP3, TP4 or until they stop playing or RUN
OUT of OPTIONS to MUCK US.
For those with a TILT... Just upgrade to TouchPRO, is worth it. It have same Procesor and Memory, and you will get it in a VERY GOOD PRICE.
For those with a TouchPRO ..... Stick with it and support XDA-Developers, and just modified it as YOU like it.
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is it really necessary to cut and paste this on every thread that shows up here? we know you dont like it, so you might as well quit trolling the forum
toorima_anchuu said:
is it really necessary to cut and paste this on every thread that shows up here? we know you dont like it, so you might as well quit trolling the forum
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I agree... don't post here if you don't like the phone.
I bet $10 he has one in 6 months and is trash talking something else. He probably works for Alltel.
d474rpr said:
I bet $10 he has one in 6 months and is trash talking something else. He probably works for Alltel.
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Maybe its that guy from the commercial. He seems all cool and all compared to the geeks from the networks,but like alot of people,when he gets onto the internet he turns into a jerk.
agree, the guy is not bad in the commercial...

We need the ATT users to stand up

Is it it a dog for you is it not.
Kind of regrettably, I Started a post. Is ATT Tilt2 a Dog.
I really felt this.
I had recently upgraded my ATT Tilt (original (1)),Tilt1 if you prefer, to ATT Tilt2.
My experience was less than preferable.
While others suggested that I would be happier with another ROM, Black Berry, or (ugh,UGH, can not put in bigger caps) iPhone. I have worked with Windows Mobile, as well as others on this board, before it was a phone.
I think I was issued, initially a piece of crap.
Because of my response to this I had to take some crap.
get some, give some.
My equipment, ATT Tilt2, purchased from Walmart/Lets Talk on Black Friday 2009.
How are you doing?
In love with mine
I was about to post in your previous thread, which I found a fascinating read
I actually bought two, the other for my wife. We both, had been suffering for years, with different Palm devices. I decided on these for two reasons. . .my fat fingers just didn't work with the small keyboard buttons any longer, and it had a MS OS. Like you, have been dealing with MS since DOS5. I knew what I was in for and, I knew I could tweak it. Already using Total Commander and cleanRAM. It's was a little advanced for my wife until I insisted she READ THE MANUAL. She also had an older (Cingular) SIMM. Once we had it changed out even she responded with a "wow, what a difference". We both love our Tilt2s.
Have been reading here for a week and will prolly read for a couple more before I break something I need an assist with. I've been with AT&T since 97. I hate them, but like the last female at 2:00am, there easy to deal with, so I keep renewing.
Looking forward to reading more of your posts
This is your second or third thread that is basically the same thing. Are you looking for attention or what?
jmarotto said:
I was about to post in your previous thread, which I found a fascinating read
I actually bought two, the other for my wife. We both, had been suffering for years, with different Palm devices. I decided on these for two reasons. . .my fat fingers just didn't work with the small keyboard buttons any longer, and it had a MS OS. Like you, have been dealing with MS since DOS5. I knew what I was in for and, I knew I could tweak it. Already using Total Commander and cleanRAM. It's was a little advanced for my wife until I insisted she READ THE MANUAL. She also had an older (Cingular) SIMM. Once we had it changed out even she responded with a "wow, what a difference". We both love our Tilt2s.
Have been reading here for a week and will prolly read for a couple more before I break something I need an assist with. I've been with AT&T since 97. I hate them, but like the last female at 2:00am, there easy to deal with, so I keep renewing.
Looking forward to reading more of your posts
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Thank you.
After a couple of months and a final equipment failure, ATT shipped, and I received today a replacement.
I am avoiding, if I can, adding any software soon, like tonight.
My experience so far, with replacement, has been more than I expected.
I work very hard during the week and from Friday evenings into the weekend, I really like to think less.
Before Monday, unless anyone asks about anything specific about this equipment, software, or ROM, I will be rebuilding to test all.
Good Night
kimtyson said:
This is your second or third thread that is basically the same thing. Are you looking for attention or what?
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Momma told me not to pay attention to folks like you.
Don't know why I do?
Maybe you have somthin to say?
I too have been with SouthWesternBell-Wireless-(Cingular) since '96 and I absolutey loved the Service I got, I used to hate how sprint had all the cool phones, I even tryed Sprint for a month awhile and kept my SWB line on just in case, it didn't take long and I Cxd. Then Cingular started coming around with good phones that competed. The Day ATT and Cingular merged is when it all fell to Crap, The service is still good, but the Customer Service is horrible, the care for what the customer wants is horrible, yes we have decent phones but they are almost outdated by the time we get them. I F'ing hate ATT , and am probably after all these years gonna switch to verizon. They deserve to lose everything they have, when they no longer care for the customer, unless you have a stupid iphony which is so easy to use, I say it's for simple minded people that wants square holes for square blocks. As far as the TILT 2, I too went from TILT1 to TILT2 , iskipped the fuse because i felt it was a rushed piece of crap. But I have very little complaints about the TILT2 , and after putting on Mobile Shell and deleteing the bloatware it runs smooth. I only hated it took so long to get it. So to Sum it Up i think the TILT2 is a very good phone if you know how to tweak it, and ATT Sucks. I wish Cingular and there Care would come back !
I pretty much agree with everyone. Came from a Tilt to a Tilt2 (no such thing as Tilt1 people) and I think it's a big improvement. Yes AT&T sucks, but I don't need them or their customer service. XDA is my customer service! The keyboard is way better and you can't complain about a bigger screen and faster processor (though it's still not fast enough, e.g. HD2). No phone really lives up to it's potential straight from the carriers except possibly Android phones. After a new ROM this phone was definitely a keeper for me. Looking forward to an HD2 or even better an HD3 when available though (1.5Ghz processor, Mmmm!).
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I too have been with SouthWesternBell-Wireless-(Cingular) since '96 and I absolutey loved the Service I got, I used to hate how sprint had all the cool phones, I even tryed Sprint for a month awhile and kept my SWB line on just in case, it didn't take long and I Cxd. Then Cingular started coming around with good phones that competed. The Day ATT and Cingular merged is when it all fell to Crap, The service is still good, but the Customer Service is horrible, the care for what the customer wants is horrible, yes we have decent phones but they are almost outdated by the time we get them. I F'ing hate ATT , and am probably after all these years gonna switch to verizon. They deserve to lose everything they have, when they no longer care for the customer, unless you have a stupid iphony which is so easy to use, I say it's for simple minded people that wants square holes for square blocks. As far as the TILT 2, I too went from TILT1 to TILT2 , iskipped the fuse because i felt it was a rushed piece of crap. But I have very little complaints about the TILT2 , and after putting on Mobile Shell and deleteing the bloatware it runs smooth. I only hated it took so long to get it. So to Sum it Up i think the TILT2 is a very good phone if you know how to tweak it, and ATT Sucks. I wish Cingular and there Care would come back !
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How did you remove the bloatware?
nycny said:
How are you doing?
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So maybe you just want to get the AT&T folks unified or more public. I just don't understand the purpose of this post.
I am doing fine. Thanks for asking.
nycny said:
Momma told me not to pay attention to folks like you.
Don't know why I do?
Maybe you have somthin to say?
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And I bet if you run upstairs out of the basement Momma would tell you more. Go talk to her.
ptgptg said:
How did you remove the bloatware?
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You click the blue letters in my sig and search for "How did you remove the bloatware". Read the Wiki and the stickies, stay on point of the threads (except that this thread has no point), and read before posting your questions.
ptgptg said:
How did you remove the bloatware?
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go to this page , use file explorer and delete all listed, I didn't do the reg edits but it's had no effect at all on performance. it frees like 50mb and makes your device much faster and smoother. You don't have to delete all, also later you can hard reset and bring them all back if you'd like. I hope this helps, let me know if you need anything else.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=UninstallingTilt2Software
not easy
kimtyson said:
stay on point of the threads
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This is pretty difficult with ADD and a tabbed browser
look for CrudScrapper. It is an app that removes the bloatware from the Tilt2. Great little app.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=587637&highlight=crud+scraper
a dog is not necessarily a bad thing and it's really annoying the way you use it, please stop
Unlike kimtyson, I understand the point of this post... to complain about AT&T and the Tilt2. With that said, I don't know what is supposed to be accomplished by the post (unless AT&T and HTC CEOs read these threads regularly).
For what it's worth, here's my 2 cents (more like a penny). I love my Tilt2. Yeah it's slow sometimes, but the customization abilities can't be beaten thanks to the XDA members that try their best to make it faster rather than complain about it. That is the main reason why I don't have an iPhone. As for AT&T, yes they have thier downfalls (like all of the other cell phone companies do). If those downfalls are unacceptable for you, then quit complaining and change your service provider!! I have thought about leaving, but it's cheaper to stay since almost everyone I know has AT&T and the mobile-to-mobile minutes would be worthless to me elsewhere.
But that is just my humble opinion, I don't expect it to change the world or a major corporation.
Edit: I'm confused. Should this reply have been added to this thread or the following threads:
Got a replacement ATT Tilt2 today
Is AT&T Tilt 2 a Dog?
I am going to try to pull these threads together
jcterry said:
Unlike kimtyson, I understand the point of this post... to complain about AT&T and the Tilt2. With that said, I don't know what is supposed to be accomplished by the post (unless AT&T and HTC CEOs read these threads regularly).
For what it's worth, here's my 2 cents (more like a penny). I love my Tilt2. Yeah it's slow sometimes, but the customization abilities can't be beaten thanks to the XDA members that try their best to make it faster rather than complain about it. That is the main reason why I don't have an iPhone. As for AT&T, yes they have thier downfalls (like all of the other cell phone companies do). If those downfalls are unacceptable for you, then quit complaining and change your service provider!! I have thought about leaving, but it's cheaper to stay since almost everyone I know has AT&T and the mobile-to-mobile minutes would be worthless to me elsewhere.
But that is just my humble opinion, I don't expect it to change the world or a major corporation.
Edit: I'm confused. Should this reply have been added to this thread or the following threads:
Got a replacement ATT Tilt2 today
Is AT&T Tilt 2 a Dog?
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When I get on a thing, sometimes my thoughts go down different paths,
so the reason for different posts.
Not a linear thinker.
At my age, mental multitasking is not as easy as it was 25yre. ago.
Still works though.
I think that Tilt2 has some, as yet undiscovered hardware issues.
Don't want to go too far with this at the moment, because, I am not entirely sure what is going on.
Didn't have to stress test replacement very long.
ATT sent a refurb, which on the face of it operated faster than the first one.
Opera 9.5 opened and browsed faster than the original.
Most other function, software operated fairly to very well.
Actually on original Tilt2, a lot of these things worked as well as I was expecting from Windows Mobile.
Replacement, though seemed much more responsive for most general things.
PocketOutlook, fast. ATT.Yahoo.Com email with Opera 9.5, fast.
Internet Explorer 6 faster, still a little slow.
I am not looking for any particular fixes from you folk as yet, just observing and reporting is all.
Long story short, if that is possible.
The piece received as a replacement, after observation was a recycle/refurbish.
Discovered after trying to fit screen protector which didn't fit.
Already had screen protector installed.
On the hardware, slide/tilt mechanism seemed loose/wobbly.
Called ATT support this morning to get some idea what I was sent.
While waiting, put phone on speakerphone/external audio.
Audio speaker phone buzzed briefly, then was silent.
Tried to move back to earphone, no audio.
Similar to most recent hard failure of original piece.
Now I have two Tilt2' with similar hardware failure on audio path.
On the failure path (original phone), for several days before complete failure the original upon receiving email requiring notification. Notification, by default, would be, short vibrate/sound.
Shortly before failure, notification became constant vibrate.
Only stopped by shut-down/restart.
This morning replacement began to fail in the same way, coincident with the other audio/hardware trouble.
I appreciate that you folks are fix it folk.
I am not necessarily wanting to be short with anyone, as far as offering fixes.
Maybe I had not explained myself well enough earlier.
Not necessarily wanting a fix from you for my self.
Just exposing an issue.
I ask the same questions also when trying to trouble shoot equipment problems.
"Is it plugged in Mam/Sir?", sometimes will sound condescending to a customer who call for help.
For the dog lovers, I love and feel close to my pets also.
Sorry.
I am going to try to pull these threads together
jcterry said:
Unlike kimtyson, I understand the point of this post... to complain about AT&T and the Tilt2. With that said, I don't know what is supposed to be accomplished by the post (unless AT&T and HTC CEOs read these threads regularly).
For what it's worth, here's my 2 cents (more like a penny). I love my Tilt2. Yeah it's slow sometimes, but the customization abilities can't be beaten thanks to the XDA members that try their best to make it faster rather than complain about it. That is the main reason why I don't have an iPhone. As for AT&T, yes they have thier downfalls (like all of the other cell phone companies do). If those downfalls are unacceptable for you, then quit complaining and change your service provider!! I have thought about leaving, but it's cheaper to stay since almost everyone I know has AT&T and the mobile-to-mobile minutes would be worthless to me elsewhere.
But that is just my humble opinion, I don't expect it to change the world or a major corporation.
Edit: I'm confused. Should this reply have been added to this thread or the following threads:
Got a replacement ATT Tilt2 today
Is AT&T Tilt 2 a Dog?
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When I get on a thing, sometimes my thoughts go down different paths,
so the reason for different posts.
Not a linear thinker.
At my age, mental multitasking is not as easy as it was 25yre. ago.
Still works though.
I think that Tilt2 has some, as yet undiscovered hardware issues.
Don't want to go too far with this at the moment, because, I am not entirely sure what is going on.
Didn't have to stress test replacement very long.
ATT sent a refurb, which on the face of it operated faster than the first one.
Opera 9.5 opened and browsed faster than the original.
Most other function, software operated fairly to very well.
Actually on original Tilt2, a lot of these things worked as well as I was expecting from Windows Mobile.
Replacement, though seemed much more responsive for most general things.
PocketOutlook, fast. ATT.Yahoo.Com email with Opera 9.5, fast.
Internet Explorer 6 faster, still a little slow.
I am not looking for any particular fixes from you folk as yet, just observing and reporting is all.
Long story short, if that is possible.
The piece received as a replacement, after observation was a recycle/refurburbish.
Discovered after trying to fit screen protector which didn't fit.
Already had screen protector installed.
On the hardware, slide/tilt mechanism seemed loose/wobbly.
Called ATT support this morning to get some idea what I was sent.
While waiting, put phone on speakerphone/external audio.
Audio speaker phone buzzed briefly, then was silent.
Tried to move back to earphone, no audio.
Similar to most recent hard failure of original piece.
Now I have two Tilt2' with similar hardware failure on audio path.
On the failure path (original phone), for several days before complete failure the original upon receiving email requiring notification. Notification, by default, would be, short vibrate/sound.
Shortly before failure, notification became constant vibrate.
Only stopped by shut-down/restart.
This morning replacement began to fail in the same way, coincident with the other audio/hardware trouble.
I appreciate that you folks are fix it folk.
I am not necessarily wanting to be short with anyone, as far as offering fixes.
Maybe I had not explained myself well enough earlier.
Not necessarily wanting a fix from you for my self.
Just exposing an issue.
I ask the same questions also.
The only issue i've faced with my tilt 2 is the volume up/down buttons became dislodged then i dropped it one time and they got back in place but now my volume up button doesn't push back, but still works so doesn't bother me that much.
I guess your just having really bad luck. If you bought a new device and received a refurb with the same or worse issues, call back and explain to them that you need a new device because you paid for a new device thats supposed to work, not a refurb replacement.
jmarotto said:
I've been with AT&T since 97. I hate them, but like the last female at 2:00am, there easy to deal with, so I keep renewing
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and thats the best thing i've read in a while here on xda! haha
nycny said:
When I get on a thing, sometimes my thoughts go down different paths,
so the reason for different posts.
Not a linear thinker.
At my age, mental multitasking is not as easy as it was 25yre. ago.
Still works though.
I think that Tilt2 has some, as yet undiscovered hardware issues.
Don't want to go too far with this at the moment, because, I am not entirely sure what is going on.
Didn't have to stress test replacement very long.
ATT sent a refurb, which on the face of it operated faster than the first one.
Opera 9.5 opened and browsed faster than the original.
Most other function, software operated fairly to very well.
Actually on original Tilt2, a lot of these things worked as well as I was expecting from Windows Mobile.
Replacement, though seemed much more responsive for most general things.
PocketOutlook, fast. ATT.Yahoo.Com email with Opera 9.5, fast.
Internet Explorer 6 faster, still a little slow.
I am not looking for any particular fixes from you folk as yet, just observing and reporting is all.
Long story short, if that is possible.
The piece received as a replacement, after observation was a recycle/refurburbish.
Discovered after trying to fit screen protector which didn't fit.
Already had screen protector installed.
On the hardware, slide/tilt mechanism seemed loose/wobbly.
Called ATT support this morning to get some idea what I was sent.
While waiting, put phone on speakerphone/external audio.
Audio speaker phone buzzed briefly, then was silent.
Tried to move back to earphone, no audio.
Similar to most recent hard failure of original piece.
Now I have two Tilt2' with similar hardware failure on audio path.
On the failure path (original phone), for several days before complete failure the original upon receiving email requiring notification. Notification, by default, would be, short vibrate/sound.
Shortly before failure, notification became constant vibrate.
Only stopped by shut-down/restart.
This morning replacement began to fail in the same way, coincident with the other audio/hardware trouble.
I appreciate that you folks are fix it folk.
I am not necessarily wanting to be short with anyone, as far as offering fixes.
Maybe I had not explained myself well enough earlier.
Not necessarily wanting a fix from you for my self.
Just exposing an issue.
I ask the same questions also.
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... cool story, bro..

Thinking about getting TP2.

I have been thinking for a while that I like the look of this phone. Mainly the hardware keyboard, I've not tried the phone at all yet so I thought I would ask here what everyone thinks of it?
At the moment I have a TD2 (Topaz) and as far as I can tell the 2 phones are very similar but I want to know from the people who know the phone best (you lot ) would it be worth switching?
Thanks loads,
Luke.
LukeTurner93 said:
I have been thinking for a while that I like the look of this phone. Mainly the hardware keyboard, I've not tried the phone at all yet so I thought I would ask here what everyone thinks of it?
At the moment I have a TD2 (Topaz) and as far as I can tell the 2 phones are very similar but I want to know from the people who know the phone best (you lot ) would it be worth switching?
Thanks loads,
Luke.
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I like mine. It is a heavy phone, but the keyboard is great. I wrote a review on Amazon (got mine from the wireless store there). My review is entitle "Good Phone But Needs Customization", and there are several good reviews there.
http://wireless.amazon.com/HTC-Touch-Windows-Phone-T-Mobile/dp/B002LITRMQ/ref=sh_br_ph_1
I think you might do well with an Google search for the specific carrier you will be using, and another for the basic phone itself.
Note that I'm on the US T-Mobile network.
stevedebi said:
I like mine. It is a heavy phone, but the keyboard is great. I wrote a review on Amazon (got mine from the wireless store there). My review is entitle "Good Phone But Needs Customization", and there are several good reviews there.
http://wireless.amazon.com/HTC-Touch-Windows-Phone-T-Mobile/dp/B002LITRMQ/ref=sh_br_ph_1
I think you might do well with an Google search for the specific carrier you will be using, and another for the basic phone itself.
Note that I'm on the US T-Mobile network.
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Thanks for the reply,
I looked at the link you showed and something that puts me off the phone (sadly, the only thing) is the 3.2 mp camera, which, to me, is too low as I'm now used to the 5mp on my Topaz. But I do think the keyboard could swing me on that xD
I would buy it unlocked and put my vdafone sim in it as I did with my topaz (pricey but no ties anywhere)
Thanks again
I don't know much about touch diamond 2 but from this link:
http://www.wmexperts.com/touch-diamond-2-touch-pro-2-vs-touch-hd
Besides getting a bigger phone you're also looking at a slightly downgraded camera by moving to touch pro2.

My phone now belongs to the State of Massachussets

So yeah, I did it again, I've lost my phone. Please flame me.
The other day I was at concert in Turin (Dropkick Murphys, wohoo), and probably due to the fact that I was right in front of the stage, drunk like hell and dancing like a fool for a couple hours I've lost my phone in the middle of the crazy-jumping-punching crowd. No chance, I couldn't find it anywhere after the show, and looking for it while it was still going would have been like looking for a quick but painful death, it must have been totally destroyed after a few seconds anyway. So when I got home I called my carrier and blocked my number, then (smart as hell) I tried tracking/blocking my phone on windowsphone.com, but that didn't work. Yesterday I went to the police station so that I was able to report the fact in order to be able to get a new sim-card with my old number from my carrier. That's it, now I'm still pissed but I can handle it.
Anyway, here are some (probably pretty lame) questions. Now I got my phone blocked via IMEI and I have my number, so that's quite fine, but what about the data I had on my phone? In particular, what about the apps I bought and stuff like that? In the coming weeks I'm getting paid for a random work I did so I'll be definitely getting another WP7 device, but I still don't know much about this platform so I don't know how this works. On Android when I switched phone I had all my apps, contacts and stuff linked to my Google account and I've never lost a thing, how does that work here exactly?
Sorry for the dumb questions...
vnvman said:
So yeah, I did it again, I've lost my phone. Please flame me.
The other day I was at concert in Turin (Dropkick Murphys, wohoo), and probably due to the fact that I was right in front of the stage, drunk like hell and dancing like a fool for a couple hours I've lost my phone in the middle of the crazy-jumping-punching crowd. No chance, I couldn't find it anywhere after the show, and looking for it while it was still going would have been like looking for a quick but painful death, it must have been totally destroyed after a few seconds anyway. So when I got home I called my carrier and blocked my number, then (smart as hell) I tried tracking/blocking my phone on windowsphone.com, but that didn't work. Yesterday I went to the police station so that I was able to report the fact in order to be able to get a new sim-card with my old number from my carrier. That's it, now I'm still pissed but I can handle it.
Anyway, here are some (probably pretty lame) questions. Now I got my phone blocked via IMEI and I have my number, so that's quite fine, but what about the data I had on my phone? In particular, what about the apps I bought and stuff like that? In the coming weeks I'm getting paid for a random work I did so I'll be definitely getting another WP7 device, but I still don't know much about this platform so I don't know how this works. On Android when I switched phone I had all my apps, contacts and stuff linked to my Google account and I've never lost a thing, how does that work here exactly?
Sorry for the dumb questions...
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If you go to my phone on windowsphone.com - and your account you will have the list of apps you installed. It might look a little painful process as not all apps and settings are going to restored by a single click. Settings - manually. Apps - one by one. Also if you had any unlocks they are gone! So all those side loading apps, won't be there. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news! But see the positive - it looks like you had a good night
drupad2drupad said:
If you go to my phone on windowsphone.com - and your account you will have the list of apps you installed. It might look a little painful process as not all apps and settings are going to restored by a single click. Settings - manually. Apps - one by one. Also if you had any unlocks they are gone! So all those side loading apps, won't be there. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news! But see the positive - it looks like you had a good night
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Thanks for the tips, I feel better already. Too bad for sideloaded apps, but that was something I expected. I only had the basic windowbreak unlock so that's not too bad. The only thing that really bothers me is that I wasn't in the mood for an upgrade at all right now, the phone worked fine and the day I've lost it I had just received my brand new case...I was already saving money for some superphone releasing in Q4. Oh well, I guess this is what you get for being a reckless fool...you're right tho, that was some real fun
vnvman said:
Thanks for the tips, I feel better already. Too bad for sideloaded apps, but that was something I expected. I only had the basic windowbreak unlock so that's not too bad. The only thing that really bothers me is that I wasn't in the mood for an upgrade at all right now, the phone worked fine and the day I've lost it I had just received my brand new case...I was already saving money for some superphone releasing in Q4. Oh well, I guess this is what you get for being a reckless fool...you're right tho, that was some real fun
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I would recommend since it's your temporary replacement, probably get some second-hand Samsung phone on which Windowsbreak works. That way you can be sideloading in no time and have some money for the super Apollo!
drupad2drupad said:
I would recommend since it's your temporary replacement, probably get some second-hand Samsung phone on which Windowsbreak works. That way you can be sideloading in no time and have some money for the super Apollo!
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I'd second that, also the LG Optimus 7 costs about 140€ here right now, that's pretty cheap for a new phone, but it has that fugly LCD...anyway a friend of mine rocking a brand new Lumia 800 (Cyan) is teasing me like hell. Maan, that phone is overpriced...I have to...resist...ugh!
I'm using my old Nokia N70 now, it owns!
vnvman said:
I'd second that, also the LG Optimus 7 costs about 140€ here right now, that's pretty cheap for a new phone, but it has that fugly LCD...anyway a friend of mine rocking a brand new Lumia 800 (Cyan) is teasing me like hell. Maan, that phone is overpriced...I have to...resist...ugh!
I'm using my old Nokia N70 now, it owns!
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Nice thing about LG is that it has a registry editor built in, so it is easy to dev unlock yourself.
Plus you can do any other tweaks, such as real instant resume and fix the blue tooth audio for video issue.
Real instant resume keeps the app in actual memory, so when you go back to it, it does not need to rehydrate. Negative of course, is that you need to make sure to back out of apps that you don't want consuming your memory.
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Nice thing about LG is that it has a registry editor built in, so it is easy to dev unlock yourself.
Plus you can do any other tweaks, such as real instant resume and fix the blue tooth audio for video issue.
Real instant resume keeps the app in actual memory, so when you go back to it, it does not need to rehydrate. Negative of course, is that you need to make sure to back out of apps that you don't want consuming your memory.
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Not to mention the bad impact it has on battery life.

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