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At first i would like to thank all guys in the community that worked for it and making this possible - you all are doing this for fun and not for a salary, you all are idealists.
But, especially to kyphur, how it will goes on now? Bug fixing or releasing the one we really wanted?
Almost everybody, me too, flashed a WM6 version either Vanilla or v0.01 and is now sreaming that this is and that is not working. Of course it is a little bit frustating but why you should give up the primary goal - the building of a stable and note beta based rom - for bug fixing?
Now the first WM6 rom is out, the issue with the unnamed source of the "real" in difference to the "beta" rom steps more and more in the background and the time for releasing the real rom, as you wanted to do it, comes closer and closer.
I think it would be a much bigger effort to work on the real rom and checking the dangerous items in it, than doing that bug fixing.
As more you concentrate on this as faster it will be there and, in the end, when we have it, nobody will uses the bugfixes anymore.
other opinions?
I have not abandoned the original Rom Base for WMXL. It is still there and I still want to release a version based on it or it's predecessor (such as an approved for official release carrier Rom).
kyphur said:
I have not abandoned the original Rom Base for WMXL. It is still there and I still want to release a version based on it or it's predecessor (such as an approved for official release carrier Rom).
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Great, thank you and in case that you did not not recognized my pm´s, just delete them.
You´re great!
I say head on to the final release. There are enough guru's here who can figure out how to fix those niggly little bugs, but there's only Kryphur with his finger on the crossbow ROM...
Absolutely,
No other e.g. the same opinions?
I, too are anxious to see the original wm6 rom development coming around at some later stage. I can understand the recent hype though, since I also use my Hermes both as a tech toy and as a work system being torn between these both "system states" often enough. The advent of a stable productive version would surely make my day and I believe the original devt. was a better chance in this direction. For the time being, I am quite content with playing around with what is availeable as of now, knowing that I can always revert to my 'stable' HTC Test rom.
So many great possibilities have surfaced in just the last couple of days, that I am quite sure soon we will basically be able to find solutions for everyones different needs and priorities here.
I for one am definitely keeping an eye out for k's original rom project.
Thank you for your effort and support.
BZ
I agree with apokryphus's premise, which needed to be expressed. I am sitting back waiting for the "original" ROM that kyphur promised. I use my device for work and play, and don't have time or motivation to be squashing bugs all the time When I flash, I want to have a working system that I won't have to constantly return to the forum to find bug fixes for, and I know there are many out there like myself.
Now, friend Kyphur, you are stuck with trying to field all the posts in the "Issues" thread, while at the same time working on the original goal. Did you guys see how heated the thread got at a couple of points?
A thousand thanks, Kyphur, I admire (but don't envy) you! Just don't let the furor raised by the "early release" sidetrack you, PLEASE! "
BZ" as we used to say in the Navy: "Bravo Zulu" (signal talk for "Well Done.")
Best regards to you and your collaborators.
Ben, deported from Chi-Town to Florida.
In according to duttys "rom koch" all we need at last is a stable and original rom then we will have all we need to cook our own specified rom with appz we want and without those we do not want.
I think when kyphur will release his genuine rom, we will have one of the best devices - with out gps - that we can have!
Ok, I'm pretty much getting to grips with my IIs...
I've already upgraded my rom to o2's 1.40242 (up and down just to practice) and I know what I'm doing in so far as editing my registry... but my machine still isn't all it could be.
I've pretty much read the forum upside down, but there are so many options to this and that scattered around in the various threads that that it would take me forever to try them all for functionality, so as opposed to asking for help, I'd like to instead call upon your collective experience.
As said I'm looking to make my machine the best it can be for a wm2003se PDA (not really looking to upgrade to wm5 because 2003 is still the most compatible os out there at the mo), so I'd like your thoughts on the best roms and radio versions based on your useage. (best being most stable and functional (heh, I really like a2dp... but I know the issues).
So... what's your advise?
Thx in advance, all suggestions most welcome (well.... the non-profane ones anyway. )
Finally... big kudos to all the devs,(pro and hobby) you all done some really stunning stuff, this is a hell of a forum. (I'd name them but I'd like to finish this post today.)
maybe you can try he system rom from this progect:
http://sx66-blueangel.home.comcast.net/
also, upgrade your radio to the latest one.
MORE options!... are you purposely trying to give me brain melt?
I might give it a try at some point when it comes out of beta... but for the moment I'm really just going for stability and functionality.
Also you mentioned the latest radio rom.. which (if I'm correct) is the 1.15 version.. but I've read that alot of people have gone back to 1.13.... ho hum.
Thx though.
Any more suggestions, people?
What about suggesting a really nice cooked rom (or baked.. whatever.)
Also any chance of giving me a reason why you would recommend a particular rom over another?
Thx.
Someone Walkin' said:
MORE options!... are you purposely trying to give me brain melt?
I might give it a try at some point when it comes out of beta... but for the moment I'm really just going for stability and functionality.
Also you mentioned the latest radio rom.. which (if I'm correct) is the 1.15 version.. but I've read that alot of people have gone back to 1.13.... ho hum.
Thx though.
Any more suggestions, people?
What about suggesting a really nice cooked rom (or baked.. whatever.)
Also any chance of giving me a reason why you would recommend a particular rom over another?
Thx.
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Well, in case you didn't saw:
I am just one newbie here, I will receive my SX66 in 5 days, and at least, I am trying to help other persons with the stuff i know!
Patience i don't have much knowledge, but i believe it was better than not replying to you.
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Well, in case you didn't saw:
I am just one newbie here, I will receive my SX66 in 5 days, and at least, I am trying to help other persons with the stuff i know!
Patience i don't have much knowledge, but i believe it was better than not replying to you.
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Heh.. I think you've missed the point of my post.. I wasn't getting at you, it was actually a thank you.
I'm learning too.
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Heh.. I think you've missed the point of my post.. I wasn't getting at you, it was actually a thank you.
I'm learning too.
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no problem man
I'll try the upgrade to radio 1.15, and if it don't go well, i'll change to 1.13.
Anyway, also would like to try out one WM5 release, I am thinking in one clean helmi release.
Also, i've got from one portuguese forum, some interesting files that put the 2003 SE with one graphical aspect similar to wm6. (thats one of the things i'll try.
By studying all those files, maybe one day, we can compile one rom to our needs.
Sounds interesting.. but watch you don't slow your machine down to much.. that's (and compatibility issues) my main reason for not going to new with my os.. all the pretties just bog the system down.
I will try.
also, i believe those new rom's are much faster and stable than the first ones that appeared.
Hey people.. still lookin' for recommendations.
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Hey people.. still lookin' for recommendations.
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here, the only recommendations we get is this: "screw it alone, we don't like you to do questions"
but for WM2003 there aren't big recommendations. it is already one outdated platform, and all of them are with the eyes on WM5 platform.
the last system roms are based on 1.42.xxx
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here, the only recommendations we get is this: "screw it alone, we don't like you to do questions"
but for WM2003 there aren't big recommendations. it is already one outdated platform, and all of them are with the eyes on WM5 platform.
the last system roms are based on 1.42.xxx
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Szr.. I didn't see that you had replied.
The newest original rom from o2 was the 1.40.242.. I think that the 1.42 is from t-mobile.. do you know if that will work on an XDA IIs?
hi there man. my pda arrived today. i am using the system rom 1.42 and the radio 1.15. i did the upgrade today. so far so good.
in fact i am now posting this message with the blue angel.
cool.
What Pda did you get?
Glad things are going smoothly for ya... same can't be said here.
I'm having a ***** of a time trying to do anything other that transfer files or activesync when using bluetooth.... that's 6 charges I've gone through trying to get thing to work...
Ah well.. still tryin'.
SandStorm said:
hi there man. my pda arrived today. i am using the system rom 1.42 and the radio 1.15. i did the upgrade today. so far so good.
in fact i am now posting this message with the blue angel.
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SandStorm.. when you upgraded what bt driver and version did you end up with?
good! I use t-mobile 1-42 with cooked ext rom and the pda smiles me .. until the coming of Ultimate 7150...
hi! well, now I am using helmi wm5. its more stable, btw. I dunno about my bt stack. the other rom I had, was from sx66 standardization.
A group of us at #xda-devs on freenode started looking at the crackberry hex edit's to the kernel to make bbconnect work, and in the process noticed some strangeness in the disassembly. It appears the 1413 hermes kernel going around is in fact nothing more than build 1236. We have proven this now in assembly, the getversion function returns the value of 1236, not 1413. We are currently unsure how or where the patch occurs to visually show the faked version ID.
Midget's rom on the universal however, is truely 1413, with the same test his rom passed the correct version back.
Figured someone might like this update...
Midgets: MOVL R3, 0x585
Hermes: MOVL R3, 0x4D4
585 = 1413 decimal
4D4 = 1236 decimal
confirmed, and mine is the real deal
confirmed...it did not take long...ehehe....i compared to the real one this afternoon,it is endeed a fake... the kernel files/modules dont even match.but let not blame anyone...i belive this was done for a specific reason.
Would someone please elaborate on these implications? Does this mean that any ROM advertised in the Hermes section as CE 5.2.1413 actually is not?
Correct, 1413 does not exist for the hermes, although it's completely possible for a hybrid kernel to exist, but I for one would not think that to be very "stable". That's not to say a future kernel couldn't be legit, but if you want to be sure, drop by the irc chat and we'll help you pull apart a rom to see what it's made out of!
its really 1236 edited to 1413
similar to when that chick you've been hitting on turns out to ahve a c*ck, only not quite as bad
wow midget...I feel violated on so many different levels
Midget_1990 said:
its really 1236 edited to 1413
similar to when that chick you've been hitting on turns out to ahve a c*ck, only not quite as bad
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lmao....
will be updating my kernel tonight, nice find guys, glad I had you help with the bbconnect shadow otherwise it wouldve gone unnoticed.
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Correct, 1413 does not exist for the hermes, although it's completely possible for a hybrid kernel to exist, but I for one would not think that to be very "stable". That's not to say a future kernel couldn't be legit, but if you want to be sure, drop by the irc chat and we'll help you pull apart a rom to see what it's made out of!
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if you talking about CE OS 5.2.1413 then you are incorrect....there is such rom native to the hermes.
regards....
I didn't say it doesn't exist, only that we have not seen it yet, the ones we have appear to all be the fake.
EDIT: I stand corrected, I did say that, but I later said it's highly possibly a future rom could be legit at that level...
Interesting.... Whatever the case, the current hermes WM6 build, v17913.0.3.0 has massive improvements on almost every front. Whether the kernel is patched to 5.2.1413 or not is irrelevant to this IMO. I'll leave my own ROM alone.
Hex editing the version number? That just seems wrong... but if it works then its a valid fix.
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I didn't say it doesn't exist, only that we have not seen it yet, the ones we have appear to all be the fake.
EDIT: I stand corrected, I did say that, but I later said it's highly possibly a future rom could be legit at that level...
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no problem ..eheh...
But please note that sometimes a cook changes such info for genuine reasons.
due to this kind of investigation some cooks may have to delay their releases for months or even not even release it till the rom becomes official...but by then who wants the cooked one when you can have the official one...i wonder what will be the consequences of posting such info....just an observation...
xda is becoming to smart for its own good.
I wonder if this was necessary to graft on the WM6 update...
All I can say is that the lvsw derivative I'm running is the most stable, fast and improved OS I've ever used on my TyTN. I can't even begin to list the improvements over the last build....
I'm certainly not saying anything about the rest of the OS build, my terminology might be misinterpreted by how new I am here. We only proved that the kernel is faked, and the coverup is not done at the kernel level. The kernel reports itself as 1236 just as it should.
I'll agree, lvsw's kernel (used in custel 2.5 also) is incredible...
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I wonder if this was necessary to graft on the WM6 update...
All I can say is that the lvsw derivative I'm running is the most stable, fast and improved OS I've ever used on my TyTN. I can't even begin to list the improvements over the last build....
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in this case all credit should go to the rom cook
faria said:
no problem ..eheh...
But please note that sometimes a cook changes such info for genuine reasons.
due to this kind of investigation some cooks may have to delay their releases for months or even not even release it till the rom becomes official...but by then who wants the cooked one when you can have the official one...i wonder what will be the consequences of posting such info....just an observation...
xda is becoming to smart for its own good.
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so releasing false versions is acceptable?
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so releasing false versions is acceptable?
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well..depends what reasons are behind the fake... but in not saying it is aceptable if somone release a fake rom just to say i was the first or whatever ....remember this forum is being watched all the time.
I don't give a rat's ass considering it often ends up hex edited to support Crackberry, etc. anyway. An improvement is an improvement, no matter what the version says.
Now back to cooking, everyone!
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Hex editing the version number? That just seems wrong... but if it works then its a valid fix.
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this is not me guys..... justting u know
I am a newbie here, just joint the community not too long ago. However noted that all the good cooks went missing? Previously, every month there be a number of new roms being released? However, lately not much of new roms being released? Where have all the good cook went? Will here be a 'ghost' town especially with the forthcoming Kaiser?
Just my 2 cents of opinion?
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I am a newbie here, just joint the community not too long ago. However noted that all the good cooks went missing? Previously, every month there be a number of new roms being released? However, lately not much of new roms being released? Where have all the good cook went? Will here be a 'ghost' town especially with the forthcoming Kaiser?
Just my 2 cents of opinion?
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I think they finally realised there is more to life than a stupid phone.
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I think they finally realised there is more to life than a stupid phone.
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Oooh, you'll catch hell for that one...
I think with WM6 being released, it has taken the punch out of some of the cooks fun\obsession. Also there has been several good kitchens released that allow for just about anybody to cook their own rom just how they want it. Check out the Pandora thread it's great!
I hope they reappear for the Kaiser.
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I think they finally realised there is more to life than a stupid phone.
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Pff...What the hell are you doing here on this forum, if you think most of us dont live a normal life, like we are all nerds or people with no life.. because most of us like to modify our phone..
Look in the miror, you will see the person with no life..
Bro Bram87,
Please don't start flamming over here.... just a discussion wil do. Everyone here loves their Hermes!
waiting for wm7...
The real reason is that the production WM6 release is very stable & fast
Some cooks are still here... We still have some Betas... That means LIFE
Err i think the cooks are here, its just all the roms out there dont really need any improvement now?
if you try a few of the latest ones, you will see you'll have very little rom related issues, so no need, to cook, and improve the roms!
fil,
Yes I do agree, the current batch of roms are very stable and fast. But however, I do find that a cook is always a cook, whereby the perfection will never take place, always challenging till the end!
my 2 cents of opinion...
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However noted that all the good cooks went missing?
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Pardon me?
I'll agree with the others... it's getting pretty difficult to improve on the Hermes ROM at this point. Working on it, though.
Aside from the facts that there are some excellent chefs still in the hermes kitchen, that the roms are probably near completition for WM6 etc - I think what drove a lot of the cooks away was a combination of the constant flaming that seems to go on in the Hermes forums - I typically find most of it pretty funny but reading through some of the other forums I am always surprised how there is nowhere near as much flaming going on. That and I think they got sick of people complaining there rom broke this or that when it was something stupid the person did and didn't follow the instructions or do a simple search for the solution. I could easily see how that could put somebody off of releasing to the public something they worked so hard to make.
Regardless of all that, there are some great chefs about - VP3g, Schapps, Duttythroy, Dutty (I think still puts out roms), JasJamming (though he doesn't realse them here any more - somebody usually post a link when he does). If I forgot to mention you or butchered the spelling of your name - sorry - not intentional
I think the cooks on here are doing an excellent job! the problem is Microsoft now is starting to do some sh** right and making a fast rom for our phone. I've tried every rom on xda that I could find at least once to test them. It's just getting harder for the cooks to cook better roms when they are working with the software that is released and taking their time to help us.
Just remember its like the military the stuff they've have for 10 years is just new to citizens. its kinda similar with wm6 just give em time and until then enjoy the awesome roms that we have!!!!
.... or you could build your own if your that risky.
I have seen many threads have been popping up with new 6.5 ROMS for other phones. While I know that these are NOT full versions of 6.5 they do have added features.
So my question is ... Are we (The Vogue users) going to get to see these updates.
Regards
Focusedonsound
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I have seen many threads have been popping up with new 6.5 ROMS for other phones. While I know that these are NOT full versions of 6.5 they do have added features.
So my question is ... Are we (The Vogue users) going to get to see these updates.
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Focusedonsound
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it depends on if your chefs feel like going through the countless hours of building it and porting it to your phone. I'm sure they will eventually but it's not easy, trust me.
actually nfsfan has already been working on it. It doesn't work totally yet for the vogue (no calls and text issues) but it's on the way.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=54245&page=2
Confilipper has already done it over at PPCGeeks. He has released a beta for Alltel users.
Pretty buggy but it's fast........
Sadly the WM6.5 build 21139 is a fake. The dsms are hexed, and so is the core. The CMHome plugin doesn't work, neither does any of the "new" addons. I ported CMHome which is supposedly a 6.5 component, however its only dependencies that are different from that of the 21014 build are XMLLite.dll and CCore.dll. Running it on 21014 build freezes the phone just like on the fake 21139 build.
Thanks anyways
sorry to hear that you waisted your time working on the 6-5 NFSMAN, thanks for doing your thing as usual.
So are all of these other 6.5 roms that we see all over the place fakes as well?
Im glad to see that we still have a group of good developers (like yourself) who are still dedicated towards bringing us the latest & greatest!
I flashed the so called 6.5 last night and it seemed fairly fast.
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So are all of these other 6.5 roms that we see all over the place fakes as well?
Im glad to see that we still have a group of good developers (like yourself) who are still dedicated towards bringing us the latest & greatest!
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Yea, of course. They all originate from the same source... The Blue Angel ROM.
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I flashed the so called 6.5 last night and it seemed fairly fast.
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It isn't any faster than the 21014 at all. And nothing is new in it!! Many things are broken, because the build is a mix of a bunch of other older builds. The fileexplorer has different icons, but it doesn't look like anything MS would incorporate. Besides think about it... If this was real, MS would be all over it.
Thanks for Sprint 1.08. Works great
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If this was real, MS would be all over it.
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Do you think so? I mean, we already do SO much with the latest ROMs that's totally against warranty, contract, ect... Besides, we're all good beta testers!