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Found Dutty's Official WM6.1

I found this on the Kaiser forum , http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=369505
Would this work on a Hermes?

That looks sweet! Would be nice if someone could create something along those lines for the Hermes.

mikehippe said:
I found this on the Kaiser forum , http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=369505
Would this work on a Hermes?
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Since the ROM is for a Kaiser then no It wont work. ROMs contain more than just the OS, they have the drivers and files required for that particular device also.

Thanks for the reply. It is really a great looking ROM. I wish Dutty would make one for the Hermes.

mikehippe said:
Thanks for the reply. It is really a great looking ROM. I wish Dutty would make one for the Hermes.
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dump the ROM and then use it's components with a kitchen to create your own (Shaminax does something similar with Schaps ROMs)

aaronsmckee said:
dump the ROM and then use it's components with a kitchen to create your own (Shaminax does something similar with Schaps ROMs)
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Yes but porting from one device to another takes a little genius for all the parts to fall together, at least from my experience.

aaronsmckee said:
dump the ROM and then use it's components with a kitchen to create your own (Shaminax does something similar with Schaps ROMs)
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Yes but porting from one device to another takes a little genius for all the parts to fall together, at least from my experience.

Dr Puttingham said:
Yes but porting from one device to another takes a little genius for all the parts to fall together, at least from my experience.
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Yup porting is not something easy...thats why i call them CHEF's LOL
BTW I dont think M$ has released 6.1 yet, so I dont think this is actually THE version!!

Dr Puttingham said:
Yes but porting from one device to another takes a little genius for all the parts to fall together, at least from my experience.
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how true that is! Might be better off just installing the dutty's apps via cab. Then again why not just wait tell poorlyducky uploads his new vista themes and use them instead. I can't wait to see a Faria (any word on that Dr. ) or K rom with the Vista themes.

Dumping a ROM and cooking is still a little over my head at this point. I'll keep enjoying all the great recipes the chefs here are cooking up.

Wow!!
Damn that is a nice looking rom.
Wonder what would be required by Dutty to create a hermes version too for us less knowledgeable folk???
My Kaiser is a company owned phone so I can't play around with it and, as much is it erks me, must run the official rom. Ahhh I hate official roms they suck.

BlueAnt1958 said:
Damn that is a nice looking rom.
Wonder what would be required by Dutty to create a hermes version too for us less knowledgeable folk???
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Umm, last I checked, there is at least one, perhaps two, hermes ROMs that are using the same build as the keiser ROM from Dutty, and I'm pretty sure that I've seen a cab or two that install the keiser stuff (com manager, dialer, etc) on the hermes.
Unless you are looking for a nice all-in-one package, everything is already around, just have to look for it.

This thread will tell you which ROM to choose.

HAHA that got your attention huh?
I just thought I'd start a thread for people who might be considering upgrading to Windows Mobile 6.0 or 6.1. You should post why you like a certain rom, which features you like, and what could be better.
Since (and I am pretty sure on this) that all of the builds are based on "chunks" of the OS taken from other phone's distributions, there isn't a "hermes specific" guide to improvements that these newer OSs give the user.
So if you feel like it, post away. Hopefully if anything, this will serve as a basis for which rom to choose.
Please don't spam the thread with posts agreeing with other users. I didn't intend for this thread to be a discussion. Try not to post based off other posts, and please
DON'T QUOTE ANYONE!
This means if someone says "I like schaps because its purple and neat looking", don't post "YA IT SURE IS". Just post AGAIN stating that it is purple, as well as what else you like about it.

Reserved for future use

ROM: CRCs STABLE (v11.2; 17-Jul)
This is a great rom to use. Battery life is excellent, and my phone never hangs / crashes. (hence the stable). I like that it accepts dialer customizations (3G dialer from the kaiser for instance) without making you go through a graphic nightmare trying to get it to work.
I *have* noticed some WIFI issues however... Not being able to connect to networks that I KNOW are open. It will say you are connected, however you won't be able to transfer. This however is only a very rarely encountered issue, and usually at WIFI hotspots in restaurants and hotels. It ALWAYS works on my home network.
Rom seems on par with most when speed is considered. It is not either slow, nor exremely fast. Quick enough to do most any task with less than a 1 second wait.
I would definately recommend this rom for use by anyone who is considering their first upgrade, or anyone who wants a very useable rom with a good basic set of programs and tools.

Thank you for bringing this up
Personally, I would say CRCinAU's roms have been the benchmark for other chefs to 'match' or 'better'
These days abusalza is that chef. Again these are my personal opinion, you really NEED TO FLASH ALL THE ROMS, to find what you like and what you don't.
No one can tell me what I will like and what I won't like, as it is down to preference.
So, in other words, .... this thread is pretty useless

in here is a link to rom benchmarks (great job be veyka) to assist U:
>>>> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=419158

Why did you post that? tell me, is there anywhere out there where there is a "consumer reports" type of ROM review?

Rom choice is.. very much what you like.
I can tell you from exp, and I have flashed almost every rom here, as im sure many other people can, that its the ONLY way to know what to use.
There isnt a bad rom, just one that isnt right for you.

since joining this community, i have flashed many roms. I have flashed almost every release during that time, it would exceed 100 roms.
now, what i have noticed is that it doesnt matter which rom i chose, i end up putting the applications on it which i like. Some of the roms have these and others do not. so really, find what it is you like, get the cabs for it, and almost all roms are the same.
there is the stability and speed of roms which is different. but with a 400mhz processor, the speed is barely noticeable unless you change the pagepool.
There is one rom that i always return to when i am away for a while, being Berds 4.31 SS

I find there is a huge difference in speed and battery drain between different WM6.1 roms.
I would personally hold up CRC and PDAcorner as the best two out there atm.
(main difference is if you like your rom vanilla or not)

carcomp said:
Why did you post that? tell me, is there anywhere out there where there is a "consumer reports" type of ROM review?
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Hmm hardly a 'consumer' report, as most of them don't donate, may be you should call it 'free loaders report'

carcomp said:
HAHA that got your attention huh?
I just thought I'd start a thread for people who might be considering upgrading to Windows Mobile 6.0 or 6.1. You should post why you like a certain rom, which features you like, and what could be better.
Since (and I am pretty sure on this) that all of the builds are based on "chunks" of the OS taken from other phone's distributions, there isn't a "hermes specific" guide to improvements that these newer OSs give the user.
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btw, on that note. WM6 is WM6, whatever device its on, each rom comes with diffrent stuff cooked in..
Same goes for 6.1.
Its also quite easy to tell if the roms your cup of tea from the thread and screenshots, eg, does it look loaded, lite, comes with HTC home ect!
carcomp said:
I like schaps because its purple and neat looking", don't post "YA IT SURE IS
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I use CRC's with schaps's purple theme I ripped it out.

I reccommend
learning how to cook your own! it's pretty freaking sweet when you can do your own preferences to your rom in the oven and then flash it! I've been flashing wm6 and 6.1 for a while and just started and i'm not going back man!! Flash and learn!! do it! ;0

joshkoss said:
learning how to cook your own! it's pretty freaking sweet when you can do your own preferences to your rom in the oven and then flash it! I've been flashing wm6 and 6.1 for a while and just started and i'm not going back man!! Flash and learn!! do it! ;0
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Dont suppose you have a link to the tools/guide for cooking WM6.1?

Long winded response (sorry)
veyka said:
Dont suppose you have a link to the tools/guide for cooking WM6.1?
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well dude,
I hate to send people on wild goose chases.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=415198 has a rollup on very useful stuff.
bepe's kitchen is in there download and read the entire thing.
download every hermes kitchen you can find and just start messing with stuff.. RGU's are all registry entries. modify and open xml's to see what they do. and just start poking around, eventually (3 months) you'll get a working almost stable build! Every change you make be sure to note it incase you need to go back and correct.. Also note what you did to fix stuff.
Then when you have questions PM and i'll try and help as much as i can but i'm still new.
Or search and bug the crap out of people. at least thats how i did it.
Also the Hypercore kitchen has a good manual with it.. On porting, the noob way for porting is easyportoven, otherwise search xip and sys porting and there is a nice thread on it..
The rest is just trial and error.

joshkoss said:
well dude,
I hate to send people on wild goose chases.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=415198 has a rollup on very useful stuff.
bepe's kitchen is in there download and read the entire thing.
download every hermes kitchen you can find and just start messing with stuff.. RGU's are all registry entries. modify and open xml's to see what they do. and just start poking around, eventually (3 months) you'll get a working almost stable build! Every change you make be sure to note it incase you need to go back and correct.. Also note what you did to fix stuff.
Then when you have questions PM and i'll try and help as much as i can but i'm still new.
Or search and bug the crap out of people. at least thats how i did it.
Also the Hypercore kitchen has a good manual with it.. On porting, the noob way for porting is easyportoven, otherwise search xip and sys porting and there is a nice thread on it..
The rest is just trial and error.
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Thanks a lot! learning to cook is something I want to get into when I have done all my uni work

veyka said:
Thanks a lot! learning to cook is something I want to get into when I have done all my uni work
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well sir, i'll be as much of a help that i can be.
Best regards,
noob chef!

veyka said:
I use CRC's with schaps's purple theme I ripped it out.
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Don't suppose you can zip that TSK file up and put it up here? only a tiny one am sure.

zocster said:
Don't suppose you can zip that TSK file up and put it up here? only a tiny one am sure.
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Here you go

veyka said:
Here you go
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thank you sir.

zocster said:
thank you sir.
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More than welcome

To be honest...(about roms)

I'm getting bored of all those roms which passes trough the TD forum. They all look the same, have the same and are the same. Why is this? Is it not possible to help each other for working on a great rom with very nice features?
This is not to disrespect people for making a rom...i am very proud of those people, but in the last 4 months the roms are all the same. Ok, this rom has a newer dll then that rom, but the part what is really interesting (video support for instance) are never been touched.
I didnt searched for a new roms for 2 months, but after coming back on this forum everything is still the same...
Hopefully the Android part will fire up this community.

Yzord said:
I'm getting bored of all those roms which passes trough the TD forum. They all look the same, have the same and are the same. Why is this? Is it not possible to help each other for working on a great rom with very nice features?
This is not to disrespect people for making a rom...i am very proud of those people, but in the last 4 months the roms are all the same. Ok, this rom has a newer dll then that rom, but the part what is really interesting (video support for instance) are never been touched.
I didnt searched for a new roms for 2 months, but after coming back on this forum everything is still the same...
Hopefully the Android part will fire up this community.
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There's always the option to learn how to cook and come up with something unique and wonderfull you are expecting. Break the ice, innovate, this is what this place is all about, be the pioneer!

tnyynt said:
There's always the option to learn how to cook and come up with something unique and wonderfull you are expecting. Break the ice, innovate, this is what this place is all about, be the pioneer!
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I know how to cook etc...but sorry, dont have time for it. Thats why i always donate to the one which i have the rom from.
But i want to start up the discussion about all of those roms.
But i understand your opinion.

Yzord said:
I'm getting bored of all those roms which passes trough the TD forum. They all look the same, have the same and are the same. Why is this? Is it not possible to help each other for working on a great rom with very nice features?
This is not to disrespect people for making a rom...i am very proud of those people, but in the last 4 months the roms are all the same. Ok, this rom has a newer dll then that rom, but the part what is really interesting (video support for instance) are never been touched.
I didnt searched for a new roms for 2 months, but after coming back on this forum everything is still the same...
Hopefully the Android part will fire up this community.
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I am getting bored too but bored about all the cooked ROM got problem which hang... And after many ROM, back to original ROM 6.0 version 17xxx (so old) where it's 20755.
I hope i know how to cook later....

Strange, never had any problems with any rom, cooked or not. Maybe an hardware issue?

i am looking for the rom of the roms too,
but i cant find it.
why? the roms have to legal, no cracked software or no legal software from user xyz (because that not legal too, if i used the legal software from xyz).
if you want the rom of the roms than do it like me: learning cooking and using your own legal software. all the kitchens are to strong for me. there is no klick-next-kitchen for people like me. so i used and learned all days a little bit more and more (i worked with pc's since 1985 and now i was a admin of a cc with 700 users) ... and its not easy for me to understand some threads where cooking-users writes " .. and now you can cooking ..."
hmm ... really, i can? four pda's and three years later, i can see a little structure and iam glad to say, i used my own rom with my personal needed software and tweaks.
so, say what is your wishes to your rom? what do you want in your pda?
okokur

yeah, i used to flash every new release, but it has been over a month with the same rom. nothing really new lately. but new builds and blackstone features will be available soon. 1.99 or 2.0 roms should be not far off. hopefully

yea im with Blazeitup, haven't flashed for a while, im kinda waiting for something amazing (namely Android )

I agree with you all look the same i dont realy see a differents.
Maybe can we make a website so we can see what rom has what future's

How can you expect anyone to come up with "something amazing", when you haven't given a clue as to what you want? It's a phone, not a magic wand. If you have a need that has not been fulfilled, perhaps you should explain it instead of waiting for someone to provide you with a digital orgasm?
Yzord said:
I'm getting bored of all those roms which passes trough the TD forum. They all look the same, have the same and are the same. Why is this? Is it not possible to help each other for working on a great rom with very nice features?
This is not to disrespect people for making a rom...i am very proud of those people, but in the last 4 months the roms are all the same. Ok, this rom has a newer dll then that rom, but the part what is really interesting (video support for instance) are never been touched.
I didnt searched for a new roms for 2 months, but after coming back on this forum everything is still the same...
Hopefully the Android part will fire up this community.
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Since I made the point, I suppose I should give my list of priorities.
#1 - UC compliant. The differences between these ROMS are small, and without features to make it easier to setup the unit, its more trouble than its worth. UC seems perfect for this, yet is little used on the Diamond.
#2 Stability. It's Windows. Surely better stability is the key improvement. Tweak away.
#3 Speed. Who cares how fast applications run? You arent crunching numbers on a phone. The UI, on the other hand, you would like to be velvety smooth and easy to use. Tweak away.
#4 UI and finger use improvements. Again, it's Windows. The more help the better.
#5 Put the latest WM kernals and such in. They added them for SOME reason, didn't they?
#6 Dont remove useful apps. Maybe YOU don't use RSS hub, but I do. Sure, take out clearly useless things like Video tours, sample files, and Windows Update that isnt implemented. But not *apps*. OK, maybe Opera, since a newer one is probably coming every three days. And I'd even vote for removing Cyberon VC, because MS Voice Command works much better for me. But please dont strip out Adobe, RSS, blah blah.
#7 Add just a few universal apps. Maybe YOU love Unisofts' WM photo blog pud pulling editor, but is it really a universal ROM item? OK, add Total Commander, and a decent registry editor. And maybe one or two of the good tweaking programs. But take it easy, OK? We can add what we need.
And after this, it will still be very close to the same ROM your phone came with. But what did you expect, a silk purse from a sow's ear? It is still WM, after all. But it's a little better, easier to retweak if you need to again, smooth UI, and no fatal flaws. That's all we really need. Umm, unless someone wants to rewrite ActiveSync? Buehler? Anyone?
My two cents. Thanks a million to all you cookers!

And while I'm here, can someone figure out how to list more than one G*damn appointment on the TF3D screen? This is a business tool. Really, I don't need a 48 point clock!
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Since I made the point, I suppose I should give my list of priorities.
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Please dont **** up this thread with your bull****. Edit your first post. The only thing you do is bashing around and spoofing the topic.

F*g up the thread? Are you kidding me?
You said nothing useful, and I tried to make it relevent.

hi
children please stop swearing
from my point of that it will be fantastic create xda dev rom only one with best solution for everything for example
1 group software
2 group drivers
3 system files
4 tweaks
5 graphic
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get best people from forum to be in charge of each group and come out with something better then htc teach htc how to do best rom i know everyone like different roms but each rom have same drivers same system files and almost same graphic just software are different which you can install your self I'm little drank so if I f...ck about I'm sorry

I agree with DrewVS Post #11 this thread
I currently have a cdma (telus) Diamond and am running juicy's 2.5 rom it is bare and stable I add what progs i need. That being said I am trying to find a good tutorial to teach me the basics of cooking for my phone so I can do a rom that has EXACTLY what I want in it. The main problem that I have encountered is that finding any tuts that are remotly understandable for n00bs (to cooking) like me are almost non-existant. I think that a basic rom that tweaks your gps and helps with battery life and removes all propietary bloatware are really all that is needed by any1 and if you can't load a theme or your own proggies then perhaps a PPC is not really for you. I am not trying to start a argument but is there any real need to swear at peeps just because you have a differance of opinion?
Unrealpun
I saw this quote over at ppcgeek and find it very apt to this thread:
"The main diffrences between a smart person and a wise person
-a smart person knows what to say
-a wise person knows whether or not to say it"

Yzord said:
Please dont **** up this thread with your bull****. Edit your first post. The only thing you do is bashing around and spoofing the topic.
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He has a perfectly relevant point.
Not to mention, his point is pretty politically correct. But I too am with Drew.
I have been using Dutty's rom however udK just released a beta ROM with lots of Blackstone and Raphael features.
Maybe this is up your alley that you are looking for? Something a bit different from the norm - My usage so far has indicated that the ROM is great!
Very speedy with some nice new added bonuses!

The comment about Blackstone and Raphael features was intriguing. Can you elaborate? I didn't see much explaining that.
dickenz said:
He has a perfectly relevant point.
Not to mention, his point is pretty politically correct. But I too am with Drew.
I have been using Dutty's rom however udK just released a beta ROM with lots of Blackstone and Raphael features.
Maybe this is up your alley that you are looking for? Something a bit different from the norm - My usage so far has indicated that the ROM is great!
Very speedy with some nice new added bonuses!
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this is why i love lite roms with NOTHING built in...
so you get to customize it all by yourself...
until now what i see is people who remove bloatware and add in their own bloatware... so there are tons of roms with really unnecessary applications removed but tons more added on... together with really ugly start up screens that feature somebody else's name, on your phone!
that was until i came across christonge's thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=411561
he's made the perfect rom, all you needa do is customize it to your own liking...
so if you've gotten his rom and you don't like it, you've only got yourself to blame...

perfect sample
This tred shows perfectly that there is no ideal ROM. Other people want other thing in rom, some add feature, some light rom, some pure original but tweak... etc..
So this anwer your Q why there is ..

NRGZ28's 'Rose' ROM remade -rickwyatt

Sorry Ive Had To Take The Rom Down Because Nrgz28 Ask Me To

Hey Rick what do you use Wm5storage for? I've used it to delete myfav 5 from original tmo official rom but I really didn't need it for anything else?

pfunkside said:
Hey Rick what do you use Wm5storage for? I've used it to delete myfav 5 from original tmo official rom but I really didn't need it for anything else?
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because i have vista and it easyer with it

are any of the bugs fixed on this?

I don't understand why Ricky has to take down this ROM because NRG says so, the right of the ROM is that the copywrite belongs to M$, if you look @ other parts of the XDA forums you will see that more than one person will present a ROM, without being told what to do with what they have cooked, it's an artistic liscence we hold and a right to use it, modern day society cannot prevent the future....

Oh well I guess it was a sign of respect that he took it down... Oh well... I never got a chance to try it which is a bummer...

rickwyatt said:
NRGZ28's 'Rose' ROM remade -rickwyatt
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SORRY IVE HAD TO TAKE THE ROM DOWN BECAUSE NRGZ28 ASK ME TO
HE SAID THIS ON YAHOO
ediz28: well IF were you, I would show some respect and just delete it now...
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Sounds like to me you showed respect by having his name in the title.

Why not work together for one uber-rom?

Now Now...
Everything will work out for the best sooner or later

I asked him too because today I'm releasing ver 1.1 of my ROM with all the stuff that he added to it, already built in. There's no reason to have two very similar ROMs floating around. I could understand him modifying Kavana's ROM when Kavana was gone, but I'm still here and I can debug my own ROM

WM6.5 Clean and uncustomized? Is it available?

I've been looking for new rom to suite my diamond.
I want 6.5 cause of the improved behavior of scrolling and since its a little more fingerfriendly in the menus.
The issue is that every rom is so tweaked that after 5Mins I get memory usage of 90%!
Therefore I'd like to find a basic WM6.5 that hasnt been touched and tweaked,
So I can use it with my own software customizations and thats all.
I dont like the tweaks so much since it kills the memory and cause problems to softwares like IGO and Opera which needs a bit more memory.
Thanks!

looking for same here..

I have responded to both of you guys privately on a recommended ROM so as that we don't offend other chefs here.

band27 said:
I have responded to both of you guys privately on a recommended ROM so as that we don't offend other chefs here.
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This is probably going to be the first of many "Me too!" threads, and I hate to do that, but...I am interested in the same thing, so...
Me too, please...
Thanks--
Jeremy B.

Don't Panic said:
This is probably going to be the first of many "Me too!" threads, and I hate to do that, but...I am interested in the same thing, so...
Me too, please...
Thanks--
Jeremy B.
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I've PMed you, take a look and enjoy!
What I have recommended is a Rom that has been customized but it consumes very little memory and it's fast and stable.

Please can I have link. Thanks

band27 said:
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Heh. Well, your sig just gave you away.

im sorry to ruin all the party but ive tried the rom you reccomended, and it aint such a memory saver too!
I had it yesterday, this rom is *loaded* with tweaks.
maybe there's something else?
i've never noticed big differences with or without all the tweaks, ever "official" just with tf3d2 is fine for me

Use lobsterdave's easy to follow kitchen and cook your own.
Much easier and you won't have anything you don't need.

as the post above states
make it yourself....that way you get what you want...and not what a chef thinks you want.

i'd like to cook one myself but I couldnt find a basic rom with the latest wm6.5

eranyanay said:
im sorry to ruin all the party but ive tried the rom you reccomended, and it aint such a memory saver too!
I had it yesterday, this rom is *loaded* with tweaks.
maybe there's something else?
i've never noticed big differences with or without all the tweaks, ever "official" just with tf3d2 is fine for me
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Im sure you're well aware that both WM6.5 and the tf3d2 (for diamond anyway) are both in beta/experimental stages (Hence, there is no such thing as 'official 6.5' atm), and that even if you don't tweak them they are bound to have memory leaks? (tf3d was a memory hogger for 6.1 btw INMHO) Just the fact that you found no 6.5 rom to suit your needs of more free ram, is already a clue dude.

eranyanay said:
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I think you're misunderstanding.
You don't need a base ROM. It's all included in the kitchen along with all the packages. You can of course create your own packages and add what you want to the kitchen.
Then after you've selected what you want in your kitchen and what you don't want you can cook it into a ROM. Before you cook you don't have a base ROM, you have a whole load of files in their raw format ready for packaging into the ROM.
As I said, use lobsterdave's kitchen which is exceptionally easy to follow and has instructions.

Where can i get lobsterdave's kitchen?
I googled it and it gave me this : http://www.google.co.in/search?hl=e...0vJ&q=lobsterdave's+kitchen&btnG=Search&meta=
Can some provide a link?

donsalari said:
Where can i get lobsterdave's kitchen?
I googled it and it gave me this : http://www.google.co.in/search?hl=e...0vJ&q=lobsterdave's+kitchen&btnG=Search&meta=
Can some provide a link?
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Here you go...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=513311

Can you PM for clean WM 6.5 ROM?I'd like get one as well...

JeganathanK said:
Here you go...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=513311
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God bless you!!