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Comparison Table PLEASE!

Can we have a sticky comparison table of all WM6 flavors?
It's just really getting harder and harder to pick with ones to try out or which one we should focus on. I really like the new COOKED ROMS but still don't know what is the advantages of using one over the other!
Also maybe having a comparison table will help build the SUPER ROM! All the cooks collaborating would be awesome for everyone...
What do you guys think?
So here's what I started!
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Cooked_ROMs
See Comparison Chart!

I think you should put on your flame suit....

Like anything in this "hobby", its a matter of taking time and reading. Compare the differences between the versions, read the threads.
From what ive seen in my fairly short time here, if you want quick easy answers or if you want someone to make the decision for you.... then XDA developer forums might not be the right place for you.

spidy.web said:
Can we have a sticky comparison table of all WM6 flavors?
It's just really getting harder and harder to pick with ones to try out or which one we should focus on. I really like the new COOKED ROMS but still don't know what is the advantages of using one over the other!
Also maybe having a comparison table will help build the SUPER ROM! All the cooks collaborating would be awesome for everyone...
What do you guys think?
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Please read the FAQs, Wikis, and the various release notes. To get a better picture yet, install it yourself. This is pretty much a self help forum, screaming in such a way is only going to invite lots of flames.
If you think the comparison is good and since it isn't there. Why don't you come up with it? I am sure all the n00bs will benefit.

mshagg said:
Like anything in this "hobby", its a matter of taking time and reading. Compare the differences between the versions, read the threads.
From what ive seen in my fairly short time here, if you want quick easy answers or if you want someone to make the decision for you.... then XDA developer forums might not be the right place for you.
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I have installed all of them and I still am torn between a couple of them cause one has stuff I like to have on the other or vice versa.

joej said:
Please read the FAQs, Wikis, and the various release notes. To get a better picture yet, install it yourself. This is pretty much a self help forum, screaming in such a way is only going to invite lots of flames.
If you think the comparison is good and since it isn't there. Why don't you come up with it? I am sure all the n00bs will benefit.
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I have installed all of them and I was going to start a comparison table myself but with the way its changing almost everyday it seems to make more sense to have the cooks update their own table!
I am a newbie too and don't want to make a mistake on such comparison table. I think the senior members or cooks are more fit to produce it.

CUSTEL said:
I think you should put on your flame suit....
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I don't mind getting flamed Custel! I'm a big fan of your ROM and I just want to simplify it for everyone cause its just getting out of hand.
BTW what do you have in mind for 1.4?

CUSTEL said:
I think you should put on your flame suit....
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Cheers for wasting 2k of our bandwith custel. This shows that you can't be orignal as people have been saying in your thread (eg black). And i have seen maby its time for you to put on your suit. </rant>
To the poster:
Mate the best thing you can do is read, the wiki, and threads. I personally think its a grrat idea. If you got some time have a play in the wiki and see what you can do.
Im sure if you ask the cooks (in their relevand threads and not via PM) they would be happy to tell you what they believe the posatives and negatives (lol) or their roms are.
Then maby you can flash them and make a wiki page for future people that are asking the Big Question.

spidy.web said:
Can we have a sticky comparison table of all WM6 flavors?
It's just really getting harder and harder to pick with ones to try out or which one we should focus on. I really like the new COOKED ROMS but still don't know what is the advantages of using one over the other!
Also maybe having a comparison table will help build the SUPER ROM! All the cooks collaborating would be awesome for everyone...
What do you guys think?
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CUSTEL said:
I think you should put on your flame suit....
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Shaun33 said:
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Cheers for wasting 2k of our bandwith custel. This shows that you can't be orignal as people have been saying in your thread (eg black). And i have seen maby its time for you to put on your suit. </rant>
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Peep the avatar ^

spidy.web said:
Can we have a sticky comparison table of all WM6 flavors?
It's just really getting harder and harder to pick with ones to try out or which one we should focus on. I really like the new COOKED ROMS but still don't know what is the advantages of using one over the other!
Also maybe having a comparison table will help build the SUPER ROM! All the cooks collaborating would be awesome for everyone...
What do you guys think?
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Glad to see our donations are going to time spent finding flaming images

CUSTEL said:
Peep the avatar ^
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hehe..
read the release notes if you want to compare different wm6 distributions.

It's actually difficult to get an easy answer to what you're asking. Comparison chart is tough to write up at this point (or ever) i think.
I know some people will respond/brush you off and say "read the wiki" but as someone who was in a similar situation, I find that the wiki stinks for a beginner.
Hermes Wiki is a lot more valuable after learning your way in the forums and reading the individual ROM threads, past and present. After that, the wiki starts to make sense and becomes a great way to learn about the developments and modifications.
I would read the boards for a couple of days before doing anything and get a feel for what each developer is trying to do. After that, start going through the wiki and see what you want to do with your device.
After that, I personally installed the different ROMS (after taking the appropriate precautions against bricking the device) and actually trying them out in the field. I still have mixed feelings about which ROM is best for ME but so far i have narrowed it down to the Black and Custel cooked ROMS. (This was after a couple of weeks!)
And it is also true that this site isn't really for someone to get in, pick out the "best" cooked rom and then get out. It's more of a long term committment in my opinion.
Hope that helps and good luck.

Shaun33 said:
To the poster:
Mate the best thing you can do is read, the wiki, and threads. I personally think its a grrat idea. If you got some time have a play in the wiki and see what you can do.
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Thanks Shaun I just started the Comparison Chart on the WiKi! Feel Free to Edit /Add some more specs you think would help.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Cooked_ROMs

spidy.web said:
Thanks Shaun I just started the Comparison Chart on the WiKi! Feel Free to Edit /Add some more specs you think would help.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Cooked_ROMs
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and its wrong sigh...
You can't tell me you honestly believe there are only 13x users of black and 3x users of mine?

CUSTEL said:
and its wrong sigh...
You can't tell me you honestly believe there are only 13x users of black and 3x users of mine?
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lol the truth hurts son
hehe no really there´s alot of wrong information in that wiki the page is a good example of wrong information

CUSTEL said:
and its wrong sigh...
You can't tell me you honestly believe there are only 13x users of black and 3x users of mine?
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I'm sure there are more just that I'm basing it on the current poll!
If there was a sticky entry for the polls it would be nicer to have too!

you do know those polls pop up and get ignored on a daily basis?

The ELF is in the house!

After a short, and forced, vacation I'm back! LOL Anyways.. My ELF rom will be recooked shortly. Primary support will STILL be at htc-devs.com (I like it there ). It is a totally different style of rom cooking.. Mostly relying on extrom and .cabs to allow for greater end-user flexibility. My rom won't be for everyone, but, it should allow for a nice option--unique from other roms on here.
Creativity is the name of this rom..

Welcome back. Missed your style and errr creative replies to noobs.

Scrog said:
Welcome back. Missed your style and errr creative replies to noobs.
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I'm supposed to be nicer to n00bs on HERE.. On htc-devs.com however, I can be as mean as ever!
So, n00bs on here... Just RTFM and RTFW.. *I* am certainly not going to help you fix something you broke because you're too lazy to read...

LegolasTheElf said:
I'm supposed to be nicer to n00bs on HERE.. On htc-devs.com however, I can be as mean as ever!
So, n00bs on here... Just RTFM and RTFW.. *I* am certainly not going to help you fix something you broke because you're too lazy to read...
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and if you still cant fix it come to htc-devs.com, im sure the elf will help you there...
*muhahahahahaha*

Elf was gone? Oh well... welcome back even though I never knew you were gone...
j/k
btw... nice photoshop work

actually mikechannon photoshopped that
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Priceless.

You know, reminds me of a MasterCard commercial ("Priceless").... But, I probably shouldn't do it.. It wouldn't be a "kinder and gentler" Elf moment..

Welcome back ELF.
Digging the new avatar too, BTW.

Welcome back Elf. We missed you. Well, I *would* have missed you if I didn't see you in IRC and at HTC-DEVS every day - I really would have.

welcome back bro. sucks xda has to bee noob friendly... their burden annoys us all!

fone_fanatic said:
welcome back bro. sucks xda has to bee noob friendly... their burden annoys us all!
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There ARE newbies like myself, who bricked their phones upgrading (I had a PC crash) and figured out how to fix it by going through the WIKI even though some create threads doesn't mean every newbie does it :>

n00bs are critical to the success of XDA-Developers. We tolerate and help them because our best developers were once n00bs. Devices are constantly changing and our "experts" constantly change too.
When m$ officially releases WM6 this forum will die back down to what it is 99% of the time. Then we will quietly begin taking apart the next generation of hardware and will start looking at the next generation of Windows Mobile.
The n00bs that we tolerated will drift away except those who can contribute. You will never find this on forums with zero n00b tolerance.

I dont think n00b has EVER turned into something useful, however once we were all newbies (yes there is a difference) who didnt know what we were doing, but wanted to learn how, not sit there demanding 'HI LOL GIVE ME GUIDE FOR TO PUT MW^ ON MY SONY ERICSSON NOW LOL' then five minutes later 'WHY IS NOONE REPLY YET? HELP ME NOW'.

Midget_1990 said:
I dont think n00b has EVER turned into something useful, however once we were all newbies (yes there is a difference) who didnt know what we were doing, but wanted to learn how, not sit there demanding 'HI LOL GIVE ME GUIDE FOR TO PUT MW^ ON MY SONY ERICSSON NOW LOL' then five minutes later 'WHY IS NOONE REPLY YET? HELP ME NOW'.
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Or may be suing if don't get help????
LOL. I still at that. HEY! Where is the moooooooney?

Radical_MT said:
Or may be suing if don't get help????
LOL. I still at that. HEY! Where is the moooooooney?
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Hey, I know my rights! I'm an American! I'll sue you!

LegolasTheElf said:
Hey, I know my rights! I'm an American! I'll sue you!
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santas cachucas Batman... Holly hats Batman... We better find some Batymoney...lol
Good to see you here

Midget_1990 said:
I dont think n00b has EVER turned into something useful, however once we were all newbies (yes there is a difference) who didnt know what we were doing, but wanted to learn how, not sit there demanding 'HI LOL GIVE ME GUIDE FOR TO PUT MW^ ON MY SONY ERICSSON NOW LOL' then five minutes later 'WHY IS NOONE REPLY YET? HELP ME NOW'.
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In the strictest definition you are correct. I'm a half full glass kind of guy tho and I'm always thinking one will switch over. I'm sure that somewhere this has happened. More importantly, n00b bashing means that some newbies may be afraid to post and might just quietly slink away...

The great thing about the internet and the millions of subject based forums is that folks from all over the world can get together and share information on the subject of their choice. This free flow of information coupled with our fast paced lifestyle does lend to folks wanting to ask rather than search since they see it as the fastest way to get the information they seek. For the most part a gentle nudge in the right direction is all they need. The downside is that forums also provide a venue for those who lack knowledge to demonstrate their self perceived superiority anonymously. It's far easier and less costly to ignore a post that you think doesn't deserve a response. If you feel the need to reply you should respect the individuals who are providing the equipment, time, and bandwidth that makes the forum you are using possible. You do this by posting intelligent and informative responses.

JasenR said:
The great thing about the internet and the millions of subject based forums is that folks from all over the world can get together and share information on the subject of their choice. This free flow of information coupled with our fast paced lifestyle does lend to folks wanting to ask rather than search since they see it as the fastest way to get the information they seek. For the most part a gentle nudge in the right direction is all they need. The downside is that forums also provide a venue for those who lack knowledge to demonstrate their self perceived superiority anonymously. It's far easier and less costly to ignore a post that you think doesn't deserve a response. If you feel the need to reply you should respect the individuals who are providing the equipment, time, and bandwidth that makes the forum you are using possible. You do this by posting intelligent and informative responses.
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This couldnt be any more appropriate and accurate for this thread....

Problems with sound quality wm6

Hi
My first time here
I have an o2 exec since 1.5 years and recently update my rom to:
OS 5.2.318 (Build 15341.0.0.0)
ROM version: 2.00.02 WWE
ROM date: 12/01/06
Radio version: 1.10.03
Protocol version: 42.44.P8
Most of my calls I have the complain that people can´t hear me well, evenif i don´t use my sony buetooth for calls
Can anyone tell me how to improve quiality of calls? or recommend me other rom please?
Thank you very much, and congratulations for all your work!

Lol!!
Just seeing this was my 1st thread and nobody replied!!!
Lol

orb3000 said:
Hi
My first time here
I have an o2 exec since 1.5 years and recently update my rom to:
OS 5.2.318 (Build 15341.0.0.0)
ROM version: 2.00.02 WWE
ROM date: 12/01/06
Radio version: 1.10.03
Protocol version: 42.44.P8
Most of my calls I have the complain that people can´t hear me well, evenif i don´t use my sony buetooth for calls
Can anyone tell me how to improve quiality of calls? or recommend me other rom please?
Thank you very much, and congratulations for all your work!
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Welcome to XDA forum......lol....hah...hah...ha...

Thanks a lot!!
Hahahaha!

on the brighter side, at least no one told you to read wiki first or do a thread search before posting...
just kidding, peace

phezthie said:
on the brighter side, at least no one told you to read wiki first or do a thread search before posting...
just kidding, peace
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I second that Phezthie.... it's nice to see orby's first post... now we can happly say read orbys post first....befor asking anything... and Uni family has always been great.... thanx to all of the Uni lovers....

Oh yes!!
Long live to our beloved Universal!!!!!!!!!
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It's a third day of me looking at this thread and having a laugh!!!

Lol
Yes me too when I re discovered

orb3000 said:
Just seeing this was my 1st thread and nobody replied!!!
Lol
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Me Too nobody replied my first post.lol So i replied to myself with my second post.... And funniest part is my first post was also related to sound issue.lol...
rajivshahi said:
HI thanx a lot for the ROM update...
but after installation i can not make or receive any call....
i can not turn my cellular radio on.... i installed the pro version not the vanilla one????
can u guyz help me with this...
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rajivshahi said:
No worries guys fixed it after some search in wiki.. actually the rom update (TML_v82_WM61_19960) which i used only had the nk.nbf (OS ROM) but was lacking ms_.nbf (Extended ROM), radio_.nbf (Radio ROM). so i upgraded the radio_.nbf manually.. and now its rocking..... thanx for the posts and special thanx to Tomal for the ROM UPGRADE... really appericiated and thanx for the all the hard work dedicated for these update.... and the wiki link is
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=UNI_Radio
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now i know why yu guyz became so active in replying/helping other people, as no one cared to help or at least reply to yur first post/problem posted lol

Yeah, it´s kinda trauma
Honestly it feels good to help at least in basics
XDA make me love WM and HTC!!! and I´m so grateful for that!

Ya very true man I just can't imagine without my HTC and WM ....helping that's what we do in xda....

orb3000 said:
Honestly it feels good to help at least in basics
XDA make me love WM and HTC!!! and I´m so grateful for that!
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aside from being active, the above-quoted are the exact reasons why yu should become mod too
Sadly, i cant but if only i could, definitely i will .... maybe now is the time to petition, what do yu think guyz ....
cheers.
phezthie
PS. sorry to our mods out there, i posted a seemingly off-topic message (but certainly relevant considering the flow of discussion). nonetheless, my apologies if it is..

Yeah, I second orb3000 becoming mod - especially for the Uni forums.
I did PM some other mods, but it seems nothing came of it. Perhaps if we lesser mortals petition something may happen!
The current mod(s) in this forum don't seem to take an active role. No disrespect, I'm sure they're very busy. But it makes sense having a mod that is active in these forums.

-Jonny- said:
Yeah, I second orb3000 becoming mod - especially for the Uni forums.
I did PM some other mods, but it seems nothing came of it. Perhaps if we lesser mortals petition something may happen!
The current mod(s) in this forum don't seem to take an active role. No disrespect, I'm sure they're very busy. But it makes sense having a mod that is active in these forums.
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if thats the only way, petition we should.
if things will turn out right, reunion previously conceptualized by orb will be forthcoming and, as i recall, it will be free if it will be in his place... jejeje

phezthie said:
aside from being active, the above-quoted are the exact reasons why yu should become mod too
Sadly, i cant but if only i could, definitely i will .... maybe now is the time to petition, what do yu think guyz ....
cheers.
phezthie
PS. sorry to our mods out there, i posted a seemingly off-topic message (but certainly relevant considering the flow of discussion). nonetheless, my apologies if it is..
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-Jonny- said:
Yeah, I second orb3000 becoming mod - especially for the Uni forums.
I did PM some other mods, but it seems nothing came of it. Perhaps if we lesser mortals petition something may happen!
The current mod(s) in this forum don't seem to take an active role. No disrespect, I'm sure they're very busy. But it makes sense having a mod that is active in these forums.
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phezthie said:
if thats the only way, petition we should.
if things will turn out right, reunion previously conceptualized by orb will be forthcoming and, as i recall, it will be free if it will be in his place... jejeje
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Thank you very much guys!
Cheers,

orb3000 said:
Thank you very much guys!
Cheers,
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No worries mate...You deserve it ....

fyi guys, I sent an email to our administrator (Flar) requesting for orb3000's appointment as moderator. of course, im hoping for positive result and, you, yes you, to back it up imagine, another natural uni lover as moderator, definitely it spells better uni forum.
hey orb, i hope you will forgive me
cheers!!
phezthie

phezthie said:
fyi guys, I sent an email to our administrator (Flar) requesting for orb3000's appointment as moderator. of course, im hoping for positive result and, you, yes you, to back it up imagine, another natural uni lover as moderator, definitely it spells better uni forum.
hey orb, i hope you will forgive me
cheers!!
phezthie
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Thanks a lot mate
I just can say I feel honored with all your comments
Cheers,

Turn on without battery

Hi.
It's possible to turn on BA without battery inside but when it's connected to AC/Usb? How can I do it?

as far as i know it's not possible. but a battery doesn't cost much nowadays.
EDIT: btw, i wouldn't expect much help here. either everybody is dead or they just dont give a damn.

no it is just, that the question is redundant, take out the battery, put in the charger cable and try it out, that is way faster than asking on the internet. if you had at least told us, what the general idea behind that is, there would be further help.

Chef_Tony said:
no it is just, that the question is redundant, take out the battery, put in the charger cable and try it out, that is way faster than asking on the internet. if you had at least told us, what the general idea behind that is, there would be further help.
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i didn't mean specificly his post. i ment more generally. since it appears that i'm the only one reading this forum. however it might be related to the age of the blueangels. since they're so old nobody uses them anymore. ergo, no help with issues.
EDIT: i was thinking of buying a new one since mine died. but when the is no "fanbase" so to speak, its qute a waste of money.

LED light orange color but nothing more. Device is off and cannot turn it to WM. I heard there is hardware hack that allow to use BA on cable but you must connect 3 pins that really connects to battery
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ares93 said:
i didn't mean specificly his post. i ment more generally. since it appears that i'm the only one reading this forum. however it might be related to the age of the blueangels. since they're so old nobody uses them anymore. ergo, no help with issues.
EDIT: i was thinking of buying a new one since mine died. but when the is no "fanbase" so to speak, its qute a waste of money.
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i feel a bit offended, since on the last 10 pages in each section of the blueangel subforum, there is practically no post, that i didn't read, in fact, if you had a look at some threads, you would see, that most of the last posts in those threads are solutions, offered by either me or egzthunder, which is why i have 600 posts. actually, there is no issue going unsolved here, and you will see there are a lot of very active members here.
sorry that this was not a very constructive post.

Chef_Tony said:
i feel a bit offended, since on the last 10 pages in each section of the blueangel subforum, there is practically no post, that i didn't read, in fact, if you had a look at some threads, you would see, that most of the last posts in those threads are solutions, offered by either me or egzthunder, which is why i have 600 posts. actually, there is no issue going unsolved here, and you will see there are a lot of very active members here.
sorry that this was not a very constructive post.
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if i offended you i apoligize. however i haven't seen you anyware else then the upgrade and wm6 subforum. just to point out what i mean, my thread was the first for nearly a month without posts. so it looked like the blueangel subforum was pretty much dead.

that is true, actually. the blueangel accessories sction is not frequently used as well. you see, most people don't come here very frequently, just to check for new roms, so they visit the wm6 section, when something goes wrong while upgrading to those roms, they post in upgrading, there are hardly any general blueangel issues these days, or people in need of wm2003 support. also there are no new accessories coming out. also, since a general questions and answers thread is also to be found in the wm6 section, most people come there for problems.
but you are right, it seems, these days most people just come for the roms and how to get them flashed, and hardly anyone really appreciates the device itself. many people left the blueangel section to go on to the universal of one of the new devices. there was a thread "do you still use your blueangel (as a phone)" some months ago, that als showed that many people moved on and just have the blueangel to play around with.
also, now that i think i fully understood the intention behind your last post, there really was no reason to be offended, it was obviously due to a misscommunication.

Chef_Tony said:
that is true, actually. the blueangel accessories sction is not frequently used as well. you see, most people don't come here very frequently, just to check for new roms, so they visit the wm6 section, when something goes wrong while upgrading to those roms, they post in upgrading, there are hardly any general blueangel issues these days, or people in need of wm2003 support. also there are no new accessories coming out. also, since a general questions and answers thread is also to be found in the wm6 section, most people come there for problems.
but you are right, it seems, these days most people just come for the roms and how to get them flashed, and hardly anyone really appreciates the device itself. many people left the blueangel section to go on to the universal of one of the new devices. there was a thread "do you still use your blueangel (as a phone)" some months ago, that als showed that many people moved on and just have the blueangel to play around with.
also, now that i think i fully understood the intention behind your last post, there really was no reason to be offended, it was obviously due to a misscommunication.
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the thing is that the blueangel is still a very competitive unit. too bad nobody uses the anymore. and i think i'll just copy paste my thread to the upgrading forum, maybe i'll have more luck there. since i died just minutes before being flashed to wm6.

that is true, maybe some hardware aspects are outdated, like qvga, wi-fi B only (also no newer encryptions) and it lacks G-Sensor, GPS and other gadgets, but it is a solid pda, a great phone, and since the software is always up to date, you can still make fun of people with an iphone for spending hundreds while our device is better in many ways and just costs 50

BlueAngel for his year of production is awesome and still hangs medium level in all other phones. I think much of them are dead and there's not much owners of it. I am using Universal too and it's not best at all but i like it. I think it depends of how much you like this phone not functions or whatever. Classics are always good.
Okay. Anyone know is it really posssible to turn it on when battery isn't inside? And something about in post #5?

mesaj said:
BlueAngel for his year of production is awesome and still hangs medium level in all other phones. I think much of them are dead and there's not much owners of it. I am using Universal too and it's not best at all but i like it. I think it depends of how much you like this phone not functions or whatever. Classics are always good.
Okay. Anyone know is it really posssible to turn it on when battery isn't inside? And something about in post #5?
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sorry mate, didnt mean to hijack your thread anyways if you have one of those transformators. you know, the one you use in chemistry or physics. you connect it to 230 or 110v and you can set the voltage and ampere. simply hook it up to the unit. the thing they use in CSI to resurrect dead phones.

[Q] What does XDA stand for?

I've been here for a few months but I still don't know what the three letters XDA stands for. I searched around and didn't find any answers. Quite odd.

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Nah, it is really the first device that the forums were started for, IIRC.

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Xtreme Developers... Awesome!
Nah, it is really the first device that the forums were started for, IIRC.
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Haha, exact same thing I wanted to say when I saw topic name

Thanks for the information. I was confused about the same thing.
XDA was a windows mobile handset I guess.
Those were the days when I use to have HP IPAQ running on windows mobile and asking activesync for PC connection.

thanks a lot, this has been buggin' me for like forever

Too funny, I still have an IPAQ and a Jornada around here some where..

i remeber the days when i was really little(me being 17) and was like begging my mum for one :'] wanting to be the cool kid in school but my mum failed and got me some cheepy ones

Aww this thread makes me want to go hug my old Treo 700w.

Old school style... Back in the days... They didnt chabge the title... Which is cool and intruiging....lol...
Have u seen xda tv? the female there is hot... XDA is bigtime
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CROSS PLATFORM DEVELOPMENT ASSOCIATION
That would be cool no lol?

I always thought it means:
"eXtreme devices and application - developers"
and that's it for me eveer!

just cant imagine with out xda

The first PDAs (Personal Digital Assistants) originally did not have any radio hardware. Soon they had bluetooth and infra-red connectivity but they did not evolve into "smartphones" until they got given radio for telephone and 2G data modem. So, O2, the British network provider (now part of Spain's Telefonica) contracted HTC to build such a device and so released the XDA (i.e. a PDA with the "X Factor" - telephony and 2G data hardware); hence the XDA was born in 2003.
I didn't get the XDA because it had a great big antenna sticking out of the top. I waited and got the O2 XDAII (aka HTC Himalaya) in 2003 http://www.gsmarena.com/o2_xda_ii-697.php.
There's a lot of love on these forums for HTC because they were the original pioneers of the smartphone.

Guys should make it into something hahaha XDA is pretty sick!

samizad said:
The first PDAs (Personal Digital Assistants) originally did not have any radio hardware. Soon they had bluetooth and infra-red connectivity but they did not evolve into "smartphones" until they got given radio for telephone and 2G data modem. So, O2, the British network provider (now part of Spain's Telefonica) contracted HTC to build such a device and so released the XDA (i.e. a PDA with the "X Factor" - telephony and 2G data hardware); hence the XDA was born in 2003.
I didn't get the XDA because it had a great big antenna sticking out of the top. I waited and got the O2 XDAII (aka HTC Himalaya) in 2003 http://www.gsmarena.com/o2_xda_ii-697.php.
There's a lot of love on these forums for HTC because they were the original pioneers of the smartphone.
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Very interesting info!

samizad said:
The first PDAs (Personal Digital Assistants) originally did not have any radio hardware. Soon they had bluetooth and infra-red connectivity but they did not evolve into "smartphones" until they got given radio for telephone and 2G data modem. So, O2, the British network provider (now part of Spain's Telefonica) contracted HTC to build such a device and so released the XDA (i.e. a PDA with the "X Factor" - telephony and 2G data hardware); hence the XDA was born in 2003.
I didn't get the XDA because it had a great big antenna sticking out of the top. I waited and got the O2 XDAII (aka HTC Himalaya) in 2003
There's a lot of love on these forums for HTC because they were the original pioneers of the smartphone.
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there is more if you speak about the history!
before o2 devices there was a period when win phones were on the market. when xda was introduced by o2, competitors (like tmobile, etc) had MDA (mobile digirtal assistant), VDA (vodafone digital assistant) and others probably. first users on this forum did not knew that they are using the same devices (in terms of producer) and this is how xda-developers appeared.
my first phone was a qtec (htc) unbranded, with windows ce - a test device from a friend, microsoft emplyee.
this forum was started when the need of the community appeared. it used to be a great forum! without the need of sayign something, I was simply searching for info, find it and use it. now... even if I am a member since 2006 I have to post some useless thoughts to have the right to read the forum posts! I think is pitty and only shows what the rulles say: no better alternative! I would ask: of who?
anyhow, is nice to remember the xda as I knew it! I did not thought that enybody of present users and owners will care about it.
PS: as an example of what the forum is: I got the error of not bein allowed to post a link!!! I wasn't posting any link, it was just the one in the quote! again, is easyer to make rulles when you are not able to think of a better alternative...

gapa said:
this forum was started when the need of the community appeared. it used to be a great forum! without the need of sayign something, I was simply searching for info, find it and use it. now... even if I am a member since 2006 I have to post some useless thoughts to have the right to read the forum posts! I think is pitty and only shows what the rulles say: no better alternative! I would ask: of who?
anyhow, is nice to remember the xda as I knew it! I did not thought that enybody of present users and owners will care about it.
PS: as an example of what the forum is: I got the error of not bein allowed to post a link!!! I wasn't posting any link, it was just the one in the quote! again, is easyer to make rulles when you are not able to think of a better alternative...
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I started coming across this site, via internet search, as far back as 2004 but never became a member until I needed to download stuff and contribute posts. The membership count was going up uselessly because people were registering just to download stuff. Now, I believe, you can download from the forums even without being a member. This makes the membership numbers a more true figure.
The 10-post rule applies to development forums only, I think. You can still post on the device specific forums but in the Q&A and General sub-forums. The intention is to stop people from asking questions, not related to development, in the dev threads.

haha i was wondering the same thing. a google search led me here. enlightening!

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