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Hello,
First and foremost I should note that I tried searching the forums but I was not entirely sure what to search for. I tried a few different queries and they yielded negligible results for my issue. Now, onto my issue:
8525 with wm6 black 3.01
I have my 8525/hermes/tytn/etc/ set to turn the device off after 3 minutes of inactivity in order to preserve battery life. Sometimes, this poses no issues and I can just hit the power button to turn it back on when I need to. Other times however, and perhaps more frequent, I press the power button and nothing happens. Try as I might and regardless of how many times I press the damned button, it will not turn on. I have to use my stylus to do a soft reset in order to have my phone back in operation. Needless to say, this has gotten very annoying. I have since turned that feature off but now my battery drains far too quickly.
Is this a known issue or has anyone experienced similar issues? If so, is there a fix for this? If not, would ATT accept my phone for a warranty exchange with this greymarket software on it? If not, can I just flash it with an official ATT image and then send it in? Thanks.
It's called Sleep of Death... SOD... I had it and I flashed the official AT&T rom and havent had it since.
thanks.. looking into it!
How many apps do you have running. Where are they installed also. I currently run Black Majik, and NEVER have the SoD, or soft reset, so I think it's the stuff you put in your device that may be causing this. Flashing a new ROM wont always solve this, since you and I have the same phone, I think it's what you put in that may cause this.
ronfin44 said:
How many apps do you have running. Where are they installed also. I currently run Black Majik, and NEVER have the SoD, or soft reset, so I think it's the stuff you put in your device that may be causing this. Flashing a new ROM wont always solve this, since you and I have the same phone, I think it's what you put in that may cause this.
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running? usually just whatever program I have opened since I have it set up to completely escape the program when I X out. As far as where things are installed, everything is installed on my device sans iGo.. However, this issue arised prior to iGo being put on my SD card.
Try this. After a hard reset, load one app to your device, let it sit, test it, and then do another. take your time. See if something you load is causing this. I did a HR on mine cause I had tons of crap on there, loaded stuff slowly and noticed the ButtonFlo CAB is what screwed my ROM from working good, so got rid of it. Since then, its awesome.
Leave the Black and go with JJ's Majik. Is the only ROM to date that hasn't SOD'ed me ... and I run the same apps, the same way, on all the ROM's.
http://wmblack.info/
is this so? i'm going to try at&t's wm6 for a bit, see howt aht works..
Don't belive so
I read a lot of threads regarding the problem, i tried AT&T and same problem, others had it with black, now i am having it with latest LVSW, may be a software problem, i had it using SPB WEATHER and SPB TIME, i hard reset install all but them, worked fine for two days, installed TWEAK2K2, problem came back, now trying without TWEAK2K2, but i doubt problem can be solved
My Opinion
been running through threads all over, just found out that there is no solution, because when a program pushes the unit to wake up from standby it freezes, this program can be weather, alarm, mail, active sync, and even a CALL can cause this, so it's a permanent bug in wm6 and PPC :-(
I suppose I should state I'm running NRG Rose Rom v1.7, and my Dash is about a year and a half old.
Mainly and most annoying, is a terrible memory leak. It seems that after an hour of being on, my phone will drop down to about .60 MB of RAM and ultimately freeze. I'm habitual about closing programs and using the free memory function in Celetask. After awhile, even that wont bring back any memory at all, sometimes it takes memory away and makes the phone freeze.
Now, I'm noticing that my phone is just randomly shutting off. (When ever it feels is most inconvenient to me, it seems.) Now, I don't know if this is due to a failing battery, or my poor elderly Dash's long life, but some insight would be wonderful.
Even after clearing the storage the phone was laggy. I'm thinking that my Dash's days are numbered now, but I really hope not. I love this phone, and I don't have any money to get a new phone right now.
My Phone is freezing alot as well. It seems like every other time I go to wake the phone up from its lock mode it freezes up. I'm using Kavana's 6.1 rom. I as well use Celetask to quit running processes but even when nothing is open and running the phone freezes.
try the newest kavana rom based on chinese rom...it manage alot better memory...
Yeah, this is getting annoying. My phone has froze twice since I posted this thread.
Same problem for me with the Rose ROM. Kavana's 0123 ROM is a lot stabler. Give it a try.
thats why i dont use the rose program no more it made my phone heat up and crap
Donaldpilger said:
I suppose I should state I'm running NRG Rose Rom v1.7, and my Dash is about a year and a half old.
Mainly and most annoying, is a terrible memory leak. It seems that after an hour of being on, my phone will drop down to about .60 MB of RAM and ultimately freeze. I'm habitual about closing programs and using the free memory function in Celetask. After awhile, even that wont bring back any memory at all, sometimes it takes memory away and makes the phone freeze.
Now, I'm noticing that my phone is just randomly shutting off. (When ever it feels is most inconvenient to me, it seems.) Now, I don't know if this is due to a failing battery, or my poor elderly Dash's long life, but some insight would be wonderful.
Even after clearing the storage the phone was laggy. I'm thinking that my Dash's days are numbered now, but I really hope not. I love this phone, and I don't have any money to get a new phone right now.
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Try downloading and installing original ROM and see if problem persists. If not, It´s probably the rom itself.
Alternatively, you can try OXIOS MEMORY (Official site is down as i´m writing this) to see if things get right.
I´ve tried all flavors of rom, and the best one for me (when you talk about resources and funcionality) is Ricky´s version of Kavana´s.
NRG´s rom is awesome, full of funcionalities, but it didn´t work for me.
Regards.
Thanks to everyone for their suggestions, I'll try what I can tonight if I end up back at home.
i had that problem when i change the page pool to 4 mb but i reflash and the problem stopped. maybe it can help you
i feel your pain with the memory leaks... im pretty on top of things when it comes to watching what programs i have open. but with NRGs ROse ROM, i have had to reset very often to avoid loss of data. I use my phone often to take notes and update spreadsheets while out and about working. Having the phone lockup and have to remove the battery only to lose the latest data ive either input, or loose a few conversations on sms, it is wearing on me.
i am going to install Rickys version on Kavanas ROM, lateset release, to try that one again. I dont remember having the same leaks in memory as NRGs. Wasn't the Rose version supposed to be "lite?" While i did enjoy alot of the apps that came "stock" with NRGs version, the memory leak is a drain on me as well as my phone!
Does anyone know the proper way to close a program? I'm tired of having to go into the task manager to close them.
That is the proper way
NRGZ28 said:
That is the proper way
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Chuckle Chuckle
Or you can use SmartToolKit to which will let you close programs with right softkey "Search this forum" as have posted several times
hey guys i have a few questions and things i need help with
first, what i'm running
at&t tilt 2 (you know...a touch pro 2)
htc official rom with sense 2.5 ( the new one...i think the newest, havent checked in a while)
and i have a few problems with my phone
1. i want to change the settings icon on the start menu to NOT go to the sense settings...if i wanted that HTC i would go to the damn settings tab on the home screen...since thats all the shortcut does anyway...sorry to you guys, it just seems stupid that they changed it.
but yeah i want it to go the the original settings
2. ive done some things to my phone that have...well...f***ed it up
firstly, installing the energy 23*** march 9 2010 series rom...no offense to nrg, but it totally ****ed my phone, because the problems dont go away with a new rom and hard resetting, for one, i cant use speakerphone...it just mutes me, and other problems, like, if i have headpones in and someone calls, if i answer, then i am muted to the other person, then i have to call them back, and if i try to take out the headphones because they cant hear me...it is still muted anyway...and it used to work right before the energy rom, same with every problem i have (except the settings thing) and also when i have headpones in, sometimes it only ring out of the headpones, so if i dont have them on at the time, and they are still plugged in, i wont hear it ring
also, sometimes during the night my phone will freeze while it sits there, and because i use it as an alarm....really frusturating when it doesnt go off, again, since i installed the rom, but happening more often since i put android on here (the recent build freezes all the time anyway, not worth it...yet)
an example would be this morning when i need to get up for college and it doesnt go off...
umm...what else...oh yea...it always happens...either the startbar freezes and kinda goes away...or sense does and this is very annoying since i have to soft reset all the time, and especially since it wont even let me turn sense off because the settings wont work because sense isnt working and cleanram doesnt work for that either
sorry if im coming off as angry im just...well...angry, but its just so frusturating with all these problems just from a rom
now a question...
will these problems go away if i install stock rom and hard reset? because i have official rom and hard reset and it didnt change anything
i love this new rom, its great, but it has the problems from the energy rom still, and its not the rom, its just registry entries or something that a hard reset wont fix...but i dont see why a new rom wont fix it, but anyway, sorry for all the writing, but im bored waiting for my class to start
sorry if you think im rude also, i love htc, i love the team that is working on android for rhodium, i love nrg's roms, i love xda, and i love all you guys, the community
thank you
run Task29. Look for it in the rom development section. This will clean you're phone memory and that will resolve most of you're problems. Then install the rom of you're choice.
thanx, and do you know of anything that will change the settings shortcut back to the original?
You man that shortcut that takes you to Sense settings instead of the Windows Mobile one?
exactly, with the only way of going into the windows mobile settings by going through the sense settings, so if sense is frozen or just not working, no way to go into settings...dumb
nicc51591 said:
exactly, with the only way of going into the windows mobile settings by going through the sense settings, so if sense is frozen or just not working, no way to go into settings...dumb
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In the registry go to [HKLM\Security\Shell\Startinfo]
and change the value for "HideSettings" from 1 to 0.
Then remove the link to HTC Settings for "Windows\Start Menu\Programs".
After a soft reset, you'll have a default settings link.
thanx, hopefully this fixes it (it looks like exactly what im looking for)
ok, I see some roms that have the memor management setting or whatever its called more agressive than stock. I had spare parts and chose agressive, and hated it.
normal setting, when I exit an app, it goes RIGHT back to the home screen. when I had it on agressive, everytime I leave and app it would show the splash screen for a second then a loading icon for a couple more before I got back to the home screen. so even if the phone operated faster once it loaded the home screen, it just "felt" slower and I didnt like it. a rom with this setting, does it act just the same?
if so, would downloading spare parts and choosing normal be able to revert back or if its in the rom will spare parts not change the setting?
If the ROM includes spare parts you can just uninstall it from the market.
Then reinstall it and choose as you please. If that's what your asking at the end of the thread.
As for the rest, if I understood the question I'm sure I could be able to help. It's just confusing
EDIT: As for the thread title, I'm sure different memory management programs have different cut off points. Just a guess though
ok, I dont really know a better way to ask it. I just do not like the effect of the aggressive setting in spare parts, and was wondering if roms being developed with such a setting was the exact same thing spare parts did, or is it something else. I assumed it would be just like spare parts because its a setting that you normally cant access and I thought maybe the rom dev just enabled it by default.
from your answer though I am thinking maybe they dont all work the same in regards to the memory management.
Ive sort of tried to search this one (How do I search JUST the Epic 4g section of XDA??) and found no one describing this problem the way I do...
This is my second time having this issue, and the fix for it last time was a pain in the ass, so id like a new fix-
Every app, every aspect of my phone, continuously resets/reloads. This is most noticeable with Hancent SMS, as it saves a message as a draft when you close out of the app... Well, right now, ill be typing and "message saved as draft" will constantly pop up at the bottom of the screen (about once every 2 seconds), and the phone will lag and it will erase 1 or two characters(making me look like I cant type :silly: ).
If this was the only problem, maybe I could live with it, but it affects everything. Launcher Pro randomly/continuously resets. The notification bar often resets while trying to pull it down. The phone app will close or freeze as soon as I start receiving a call. Sometimes it'll play my ringtone without a way for me to answer, other times I never knew I missed a call unless they leave a voice mail... And sometimes its worse than others, sometimes its fine for an hour, then something goes stupid and even a reboot doesn't help. For instance, right now, it was happy. I launched aLogcat to check it out and now the screen orientation REFUSES to stay one way. Even setting the phone down, it switches directions every few seconds, which makes aLogcat reload and therefor its unusable.
I haven't mentioned what im running because Ive had this exact same issue on a totally different rom, almost a year ago, but im running-
build - SleeperROM_3.0.0_FC09
kernal - 2.6.35.7-Shadow-FC09_v1.0
baseband - S700.0.5s.FC09
firmware - 2.3.6
Ive had this happen on EB13 on the EpicExperience ROM too.
SOO, if anyone has advice on how to fix this, id be extremely interested.
On the other hand, last time I had this issue I was convinced it was a corrupt piece of memory somewhere early in the OS, something I corrupt during install, and I went ahead and reflashed and wiped and reflashed and wiped and returned to stock and etc. etc. etc... and that seemed to work... actually, I dont know exactly what part of the process fixed it, thats why I do not want to repeat it unless I have to... BUT, if someone would like to explain/point me in the right direction. I'd like to know how to DELETE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE and FLASH as CLEAN as possible. (that is, if no one else knows of a fix for my problem)
thanks all!
Err, well only thing I can think of is a truly clean install using Odin. This means do not restore any data from backups. Then slowly begin installing applications 1-by-1 through the play store website (for speed sake) to see if your issue creeps up again.
It also couldn't hurt to format your SD card too. Corrupt data on the SD card can cause some wonky things at times.
get another device...i hope u have the equipment protection plan
Thanks for the advice guys OFF TO THE ODIN MACHINE! haha.