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Audible.com and Windows Media Mobile

I really enjoy Audible. I normally use my iPod to listen, but, I thought it would be kinda nice to get it to work with my hermes. I can get the books on the device, no problem. I can play them with Audible Player. However, I'd really prefer to not use the Audible Player to listen; favoring Windows Media.
I've searched around, and no one seems to have any magic answers, other than one person who managed to get it to work with MS Reader. But, again, that doesn't really help me.
I've authorized the device, I can play the book, but, I just can't seem to play it in Windows Media; does anyone know of a magic trick to get Windows Media to use the Audible Player codec to play the file?

LegolasTheElf said:
I'd really prefer to not use the Audible Player to listen; favoring Windows Media. magic trick to get Windows Media to use the Audible Player codec to play the file?
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I'm affraid you'd have to remove DRM protection first.

moisha said:
I'm affraid you'd have to remove DRM protection first.
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I was afraid that might be the only answer. I actually know how to do it, it just isn't "easy" to do; I can't download the books over the air and just start listening to them if I have to de-drm them
Oh well. Guess I'll dust off GoldWave and play Kinda annoying since I am doing the legal thing and actually paying for the books that I listen to; and I'm restricted unnecessarily.

LegolasTheElf said:
Oh well. Guess I'll dust off GoldWave and play
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Two months ... No new Base ROM Build

It is almost 2 months since Kavana sent us 080408. While Rick has given us many refreshes of content since, we are still on the same build of the WM 6.1 OS.
Judging from the frequency of updates for various PPCs and PPC Phones, and the lack of them for Smartphones such as the S620, it must be very difficult to get your hands on a Smartphone ROM.
Is there any likelihood of an update soon ?

Had to be from a Liverpool supporter
What do you want to see in a new build?

beartard said:
Had to be from a Liverpool supporter
What do you want to see in a new build?
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for me, i'd like to see better support of bluetooth via activesync. Since the 6.1 upgrade i've not been able to connect via activesync via bluetooth. And truse me, i've done everything i can think of to get this to work. Tried both toshiba and bluesoleil stack with no luck.

pudgedaddy said:
for me, i'd like to see better support of bluetooth via activesync. Since the 6.1 upgrade i've not been able to connect via activesync via bluetooth. And truse me, i've done everything i can think of to get this to work. Tried both toshiba and bluesoleil stack with no luck.
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Lets me guess, are you using a Dell laptop? I managed to make it work using toshiba stack. The steps are not like the ones floating around on the internet. Let me know if you are interested.

tlogix said:
Lets me guess, are you using a Dell laptop? I managed to make it work using toshiba stack. The steps are not like the ones floating around on the internet. Let me know if you are interested.
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no, im not using a dell laptop, just a bluetooth dongle that uses the toshiba BT stack.... of yes! of course! i'd like these steps. Just pm me or aim me (or yahoo) as not to flood this thread with instructions for this, since its not related to the reason for this thread.

I've got a dongle that I think uses the MS stack. I can sync via bluetooth in Vista 64 no problemo.

beartard said:
What do you want to see in a new build?
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I'd like to see the auto-complete in the To: field in messaging. This is supposed to be a feature of WM 6.1. I had it on my Moto Q9m running WM 6.0 and it is a big time saver.

Kavana is just in a deep sleep thats all lol.

I've tried several ROMs and i just can't imagine how to improve on Kavanas ROM. Everything just works. Great Job.

I would like to see a IE to be able to play streaming videos like youtube and so on.

RussianSolja said:
I would like to see a IE to be able to play streaming videos like youtube and so on.
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Have you installed programs such as: TCPMP, CorePlayer, or the HTC Streaming Media Player? Each of these will play streaming vids (such as YouTube). As a matter of fact, Technology has posted several codecs in one of his threads which accompanies the TCPMP player. Last night, I watched a video on YouTube (via Excalibur) which was an uncanny resemblance to the quality on my PC! Crystal clear.

IE Streams YouTube like A Charm!
RussianSolja said:
I would like to see a IE to be able to play streaming videos like youtube and so on.
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I use IE all the time to stream YouTube videos. Go to this website and do a test to see if you can stream video via IE http://mobile.ardcorp.tv, using wifi, if so I will set you up to stream YouTube videos via IE also.........!

You The Man!
Rip Syntaxx said:
Have you installed programs such as: TCPMP, CorePlayer, or the HTC Streaming Media Player? Each of these will play streaming vids (such as YouTube). As a matter of fact, Technology has posted several codecs in one of his threads which accompanies the TCPMP player. Last night, I watched a video on YouTube (via Excalibur) which was an uncanny resemblance to the quality on my PC! Crystal clear.
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I see that you have mastered my picture pixel crystall clear video resoluton quality technology via the codecs pak for the 320X240 Screen(LCD Blue-ray HD)(LOL). You are the man, I know it works like a charm, now tell the other 50,000,000 people that, glad it works for you....!

Excalibur Screen 320X240 LCD QVEGA
With the Excalibur screen the video enhancement is unlimited with the LCD structure, thats why you are getting the super enhance video resolution quality, it accepts a digital signal better than a lot more expense device like the "Tilt"! Now to prove my point go to http://mobile.ardcorp.tv, this company broadcast in a high digital video quality for mobile devices (They Even Call It HDTV). This company offer the highest video resolution resolution quality for the Excalibur and several other devices. That's why I will never ever argue with people that will say, this is the highest video resolution you get for the Excalibur 320X240 screen, not true, that is a false statement as you can see for yourself...............!

Rip Syntaxx said:
Have you installed programs such as: TCPMP, CorePlayer, or the HTC Streaming Media Player? Each of these will play streaming vids (such as YouTube). As a matter of fact, Technology has posted several codecs in one of his threads which accompanies the TCPMP player. Last night, I watched a video on YouTube (via Excalibur) which was an uncanny resemblance to the quality on my PC! Crystal clear.
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would you be able to provide direct download links to the programs you have downloaded to get the same picture on your phone you get on your PC? Dont direct me to another thred i want to download exactly the same apps that you downloaded so that i can see things the way your seeing things. thank you so much. so make a long story short i wanna download all the apps you downloaded to get crystal clear picture on my dash. thank you once again.

Crystal Clear Technology!
RussianSolja said:
would you be able to provide direct download links to the programs you have downloaded to get the same picture on your phone you get on your PC? Dont direct me to another thred i want to download exactly the same apps that you downloaded so that i can see things the way your seeing things. thank you so much. so make a long story short i wanna download all the apps you downloaded to get crystal clear picture on my dash. thank you once again.
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You will have to get it from one my threads, I will try to find it for you!

Technology said:
You will have to get it from one my threads, I will try to find it for you!
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sounds good once you've found the thred please tell me what to download like i've said i want to have the same exact apps on my phone that you have on your phone to view DVD quality video

Let's keep this thread on-topic.

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Let's keep this thread on-topic.
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thank you moderator lol, just messing.

RussianSolja said:
would you be able to provide direct download links to the programs you have downloaded to get the same picture on your phone you get on your PC? Dont direct me to another thred i want to download exactly the same apps that you downloaded so that i can see things the way your seeing things. thank you so much. so make a long story short i wanna download all the apps you downloaded to get crystal clear picture on my dash. thank you once again.
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Sorry for the delay, Solja! Tech will definitely point you in the right direction as to what to download from his threads. I've personally found TCPMP to be the best grade of quality when viewing streaming video (with the codecs in the thread I mentioned earlier). I didn't think it was possible for video to be as clear (and uninterrupted) on the Excalibur. I was using EDGE, mind you! lol Imagine what kind of quality a Wi-Fi connection would provide!

Any FREE media players for Dash?

As we all know Windows Media Player is a memory hog. Trying to send a text while listening to a song seems to take hours. Can anybody please tell me if there is a free media app thats better than Windows? I dont care much about video just something thats not so heavy on the phone that plays MP3 and WMA.
I did do a search and all I saw was people recomending PocketPlayer, but that costs money. I did find DivX.cab (comes with set-up files too), Im about to try it out but i really dont like installing extra software on my PC just for a media player on my phone. THanks for any help folks!
EDIT: DivX is only video, but it looks really nice for those of you who like to watch vids on their phone.

phatmanxxl said:
As we all know Windows Media Player is a memory hog. Trying to send a text while listening to a song seems to take hours. Can anybody please tell me if there is a free media app thats better than Windows? I dont care much about video just something thats not so heavy on the phone that plays MP3 and WMA.
I did do a search and all I saw was people recomending PocketPlayer, but that costs money. I did find DivX.cab (comes with set-up files too), Im about to try it out but i really dont like installing extra software on my PC just for a media player on my phone. THanks for any help folks!
EDIT: DivX is only video, but it looks really nice for those of you who like to watch vids on their phone.
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you can pm me

Try nitrogen 0.3.1 by microfi. not sure if it supports wma yet but he is working on more and more all the time. can make ur own skins aswell.

cool! ill check it out and wma is no biggie since i can always convert, I just use wma since the files are typically smaller.

tcmp is a good one

For M-peg files / PocketTV is the best! No lag and perfect lip sync with no skipping.

Thanks everybody for the help.

isnt pocket player the same as core player?

fliparsenal said:
isnt pocket player the same as core player?
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No PocketPlayer is the best Audio Player about with far more feature than CorePlayer with regards Audio.
The same in reverse CorePlayer is primaraly for Video and very good @ it.
So pair the 2 together and you have Multimedia covered.

ahh rather stick with the classic tcpmp, it ca do both..tried coreplayer..album art doesnt display it as big as tcpmp can

fliparsenal said:
ahh rather stick with the classic tcpmp, it ca do both..tried coreplayer..album art doesnt display it as big as tcpmp can
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Yes it can do both, TCPMP is just the early release of CorePlayer, to which is why CorePlayer is far more advanced in it's playing capabilities, wouldn't use CorPlayer to play audio or TCPMP as they where mainly designed for Video, where as PocketPlayer has alot of features and is pristine when playing audio.

stylez said:
Yes it can do both, TCPMP is just the early release of CorePlayer, to which is why CorePlayer is far more advanced in it's playing capabilities, wouldn't use CorPlayer to play audio or TCPMP as they where mainly designed for Video, where as PocketPlayer has alot of features and is pristine when playing audio.
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yeah! pocket player is my main music player, not only for local content in my phone, but also has the web guide that you can search web streams by category or genre , does podcast, you can bookmark streams, you can even use your regular bluetooth headset to listen to music, although I wouldn't recomend it, unless you have a stereo bluetooth headset. It even has an equalizer you can adjust to your liking.

roloracer said:
yeah! pocket player is my main music player, not only for local content in my phone, but also has the web guide that you can search web streams by category or genre , does podcast, you can bookmark streams, you can even use your regular bluetooth headset to listen to music, although I wouldn't recomend it, unless you have a stereo bluetooth headset. It even has an equalizer you can adjust to your liking.
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Yeah you sold it better than me
You knowz what my set up is anyway

stylez said:
Yeah you sold it better than me
You knowz what my set up is anyway
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I do
you know you left yourself open for gixxum to comment on that last sentence

roloracer said:
I do
you know you left yourself open for gixxum to comment on that last sentence
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Good job he's to buzy with his cross dressing antics to realize

stylez said:
Good job he's to buzy with his cross dressing antics to realize
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hew I was waiting for him to pop out somewhere to make fun of you, which I'm sure it will happen later.lol

Any media player that can play "MPEG4" ?

Hey been trawling around looking for one, i thought id found a program taht would when i downloaded pocket tunes, claiming to be able to sync to itunes. But alas it cannot play MPEG4.
Have any of you had any luck with playing itunes formated songs on any software? I dont mind paying as long as i can just play my music!

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Hey been trawling around looking for one, i thought id found a program taht would when i downloaded pocket tunes, claiming to be able to sync to itunes. But alas it cannot play MPEG4.
Have any of you had any luck with playing itunes formated songs on any software? I dont mind paying as long as i can just play my music!
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Afaik kinoma player can?
Jake

Try Core Player.

Divx mobile.. it plays all formats on my touch pro
http://www.divx.com/mobile/

I was thinking bout trying core player, but dont wana buy it to find out it doesn't work.
Kinoma player you say? Mmm never heard of it. If it works i love you
I also found a great program for converting mp4a to mp3! could do a whole folder worth, i got 880 songs i need to convert ya see. Problem was, beibng a trial they wanted me to wait 5 seconds inbewten each song and click continue! i was like :O that take days!
Cheers for the suggestions i shall check em out.
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Just thought id update you. Coreplayer does indeed play mp4a. Thank you very much, i will also check out kinoma player to see if it is just a nicer program to use. cheers again
And i hadn't even spotted the above comment, mmm i may check that out too.

Should We Install The Zune Software Now?

Im already sold on Windows Phone 7 ill be getting one as soon as verizon launches a htc phone with a big screen and keyboard, but i was wondering if i go to download the zune software now will this be the same software compatible with the phones? and is there anything we can do now with our phones or mp3 collection with the software now in preparation? like add album artwork or anything with the zune software? im trying to get use to the software before the phones launch

deadwrong03 said:
Im already sold on Windows Phone 7 ill be getting one as soon as verizon launches a htc phone with a big screen and keyboard, but i was wondering if i go to download the zune software now will this be the same software compatible with the phones? and is there anything we can do now with our phones or mp3 collection with the software now in preparation? like add album artwork or anything with the zune software? im trying to get use to the software before the phones launch
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the current downloadable vers of zune does not support wp7 however zune client will inform you of the new update with wp7 included.. with that said i would go ahead and install it to add all your music, videos and pics it is truly the best music, video client i have ever seen light years ahead of that lame itunes and it does not recopy your music and use up all of your hd space recopying all your music.

Yes, you should definitely install it. It's awesome software with or without Windows Phone.

paperclips said:
Yes, you should definitely install it. It's awesome software with or without Windows Phone.
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Agree with you. It can be a replacement of windows media player. of course, I am using it now, even though i did not own zune device. great performance, quick start up than windows media player, nicer, more functionalities and one most important function which is you can set and add your own media folder to the Zune player.
Scenario: if you placed all your music in the desk top "music folder", you can add this directory into zune and zune will recognise them and add them into your music playlist without create a new database like itunes did.
Give it a try...I'm sure you will like it...

i just downloaded it and its asking for a account in order to play specific content what kind of account do i need to make?
edit: does it matter if i use a aol or hotmail/msn account to register with zune

deadwrong03 said:
i just downloaded it and its asking for a account in order to play specific content what kind of account do i need to make?
edit: does it matter if i use a aol or hotmail/msn account to register with zune
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I didn't experienced this scenario before. however, i think it is doesn't matter you use which account, but it's more convenient if you use hotmail....because both are Microsoft products and there should be a mutual link between them and easy for you to remember the password when you use microsoft's products.

just to update u guys i downloaded it and its AMAZING never had a zune before but this interface is amazing and you can burn cds with this as well i will be using this over windows media player from now on havent tried burning a cd yet.
for those with a zune player are u able to get album art like u can on the desktop version? i wonder if we will be able to get album art with the wp7 version

deadwrong03 said:
just to update u guys i downloaded it and its AMAZING never had a zune before but this interface is amazing and you can burn cds with this as well i will be using this over windows media player from now on havent tried burning a cd yet.
for those with a zune player are u able to get album art like u can on the desktop version? i wonder if we will be able to get album art with the wp7 version
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haha,yea,this player is awesome....love it right?
wow,if WP7 can grab album art like what the desktop version did, it would be perfect...

sylau90 said:
haha,yea,this player is awesome....love it right?
wow,if WP7 can grab album art like what the desktop version did, it would be perfect...
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LOVE IT i've been playing music all day and night lol never did that with windows media player i even played it and fell asleep

I enjoy using the Smart DJ feature in Zune. It is similar to Pandora in some ways. Really looking forward to WP7 I just hope the battery life can handle my music playing.

deadwrong03 said:
LOVE IT i've been playing music all day and night lol never did that with windows media player i even played it and fell asleep
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I was a zuner since 2007 I am happy to say =)
it definitely is 10x better than apple itunes and anything else around at the moment.

sylau90 said:
haha,yea,this player is awesome....love it right?
wow,if WP7 can grab album art like what the desktop version did, it would be perfect...
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WP7 vers of zune will also grab album art and display the artist in the background just like the desktop vers..

rruffman said:
WP7 vers of zune will also grab album art and display the artist in the background just like the desktop vers..
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Wow, really? thats cool...thanks for your information...It would be nice,when using 3G or Wifi to grab album art...without access to PC.

OP I was thinking the same thing, and I did install Zune.
My thoughts;
It looks cool, the interface is 'fresh' and makes iTunes look dated.
But the biggest problem is that I can't seem to managed the actual files and can't 'show in explorer'. That's a real problem for me as I let itunes organise my music so my file structure is a nightmare to actually edit files outside of using itunes to browse. (any tips)
I also find it quite slow, (1.3ghz 2g RAM), which was disappointing. If I had a better PC it might be better.
I think I may stick to iTunes, its not a big deal to sync as a phone is only going to hold ~10g anyway.

sylau90 said:
Wow, really? thats cool...thanks for your information...It would be nice,when using 3G or Wifi to grab album art...without access to PC.
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I don't think it will do that (unless you buy something from the Marketplace or use a Zune Pass). But it definitely does pull down all sorts of info like artist bios and other artwork/pictures. It might rely on being properly categorized/labeled first when it's been synced in which the Zune software will take care of for the most part. Also, when you plug your phone into any power, it can hop on your WiFi connection automatically and sync wirelessly.

sylau90 said:
Wow, really? thats cool...thanks for your information...It would be nice,when using 3G or Wifi to grab album art...without access to PC.
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I think you mis understood me it will dl it from the web not your desktop (the zune on you phone that is) using what ever internet connection you are using on you phone at the time.

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I don't think it will do that (unless you buy something from the Marketplace or use a Zune Pass). But it definitely does pull down all sorts of info like artist bios and other artwork/pictures. It might rely on being properly categorized/labeled first when it's been synced in which the Zune software will take care of for the most part. Also, when you plug your phone into any power, it can hop on your WiFi connection automatically and sync wirelessly.
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as long as the song have the correct title, album and artist it will get the album art. no zune pass needed. it works just like the desktop vers.

shouldnt there be a zune upgrade sometime this week or on monday since the official launch of windows phone 7 will be takin place monday?

deadwrong03 said:
shouldnt there be a zune upgrade sometime this week or on monday since the official launch of windows phone 7 will be takin place monday?
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Seems like a reasonable assumption, but since there won't actually be any phones available until the end of the month we might have to wait for the new ZUNE software until then.