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Update for B&B rom

Tom when this update for the new version of B&B??!!
Remember the Windows Update and the TouchFlo please!!
A regard.

B&B 3.7 already posted
IRREAL said:
Tom when this update for the new version of B&B??!!
Remember the Windows Update and the TouchFlo please!!
A regard.
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Check the forum Mate. Tom's latest rom is already uploaded
Cheers

Rifaa said:
Check the forum Mate. Tom's latest rom is already uploaded
Cheers
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The BB 4.0 ???
Where??!??

derooseolivier said:
The BB 4.0 ???
Where??!??
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Hum...i will upload v4.0 Touch Flo in next week..!
Wait me please...!

Good news Tom. Is this with the samsung interface, or the cube?

uniqueboy said:
Good news Tom. Is this with the samsung interface, or the cube?
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Touch Flo cube because Touch Flo work perfect in my Artemis.Without any problem.
Problem x-button Sloved and - At all applications, lift up, down, left, right to scroll
(Ex: Programs, File Explorer, Internet Explorer, Audio Manager,...anywhere had scroll bar)

Hi tom
I love your rom but I have the battrey drain issue.
Will this be fixed in V4?
Keep up the good work, you rock....

Well done Tom,
I feel another round of donations comming on, and I will be amounst the first with another donation, when you get your link fixed.
So come on out there, donate for Tom.
Sounds like the best rom out there, even better than 3.7
John

Hi Tom, please what is the next GER-Final? Is it 3.7 or 4.0?
Thanks for answer.

Hi Tom, just a quick question, in V4.0 of your rom, will you be including the 'x to close' function, so when you click on 'x' it closes programs from running in he background??
cheers mate.
joey

waiting for your v4.0 tom... anyone has the problem on redialing for the v3.7??? i couldn't redial by double clicking on the green dialing button...

vadarius said:
waiting for your v4.0 tom... anyone has the problem on redialing for the v3.7??? i couldn't redial by double clicking on the green dialing button...
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the you have to install a new dialer cab. I include it for you in this post

thanks~!... will try it back home.... cheers~!

nickytheshaft said:
Hi tom
I love your rom but I have the battrey drain issue.
Will this be fixed in V4?
Keep up the good work, you rock....
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I think this has something to do with the Phone. I disabled the phone function ( I hate calling with this thing..to damn slow) and it's still @ 100%) I should also mention that i have a poor reception where i live... so my phone searches the network all the time. This doesn't do my battery life any good also.

Really looking forward to the next TomRom (B&B v4). Keep up the great work buddy.
Any idea what day we can expect it? Cheers again!

joey jojo said:
Hi Tom, just a quick question, in V4.0 of your rom, will you be including the 'x to close' function, so when you click on 'x' it closes programs from running in he background??
cheers mate.
joey
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????? all you need to do Joey is go to the drop down menu it the top right corner, click options, button on the bottom tab and tick end progrmas by tapping "x" and now you have your button.

Tranzy said:
I think this has something to do with the radio. I disabled the phone function ( I hate calling with this thing..to damn slow) and it's still @ 100%) I should also mention that i have a poor reception where i live... so my phone searches the network all the time. This doesn't do my battery life any good also.
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Hi,
I don't really get it?
What do you mean by the radio and phone function?
thanks

Hi Tom...
I hope u will include these tow nice software in u new room
1-slide2unlock.
2-ContactManager-0[1].11
also it will be nice if u produce 2 version .lite and full version so people how dont like some software to have some space...just an idea though???

tom_codon said:
Touch Flo cube because Touch Flo work perfect in my Artemis.Without any problem.
Problem x-button Sloved and - At all applications, lift up, down, left, right to scroll
(Ex: Programs, File Explorer, Internet Explorer, Audio Manager,...anywhere had scroll bar)
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WOW. I love to have it on mine Artemis
Take your time Tom.

nickytheshaft said:
Hi,
I don't really get it?
What do you mean by the radio and phone function?
thanks
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Sorry ..didn't mean radio .. i meant to say phone.

Worldmate traveller assitance software (free version available)

The free version is pretty good, the premium services includes flight schedules (which is huge for me) all in all a decent app (though the weather updates are not a big deal with HTC home available) thought I would post link to it
http://www.mobimate.com/ppc_business.shtml
includes:
World Clocks
Weather
Currency Convertors
Day/Night Map
Tip/Tax Calculator
Iteneary Tracker
The premium adds real time flight updates and some other nice stuff but the base app is pretty good all by itself

nice app. thank you

I'll look into this app since I travel a lot...thanks
btw...how is it on memory usage?

galaxys said:
I'll look into this app since I travel a lot...thanks
btw...how is it on memory usage?
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seems to be about 3mb of RAM when active the storage usage is about 7MB I have not tried out all the features though yet (I imagine live flight schedules is a memory hog)

I try to install it & it say not a PPC application
& its a Icon of a Plane & not a Cab
can someone post a Link or Upload a CAB file
Just need the Freeware tho
Thank you

Thank You!!, very nice !

ilordvader said:
I try to install it & it say not a PPC application
& its a Icon of a Plane & not a Cab
can someone post a Link or Upload a CAB file
Just need the Freeware tho
Thank you
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just simple connect via activeSynch and open the setupfile on a pc

Neat programs. Takes about 7.5MB to install. And you wont be able to see fight schedules and stuff unless you go Pro...

cyberxxdemon said:
just simple connect via activeSynch and open the setupfile on a pc
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I know we need to download it on our Desktop
U mean 1st we need install the software on PC
then on PPC

Need help
Hi
I downloaded the SW from Mobimate site and I installed it without any problem, but when I launched it for the first time, it asked for email and password. Whatever the email addresses I provide (correct emails accounts), I get a message "please enter a valid email address".
I uninstalled it on the device and on the laptop, I clean the registry (with sktools) and reinstall it. Always the same message "please enter a valid email address". (I didn't get any answer from Mobimate support)
Any idea?
Thank you
Original HTC TyTn II (Kaiser 4550)
Rom: 1.56.406.5 (30/08/07)
Radio: 1.27.12.17
Protocol: 22.45.88.07H

Franck47 said:
Hi
I downloaded the SW from Mobimate site and I installed it without any problem, but when I launched it for the first time, it asked for email and password. Whatever the email addresses I provide (correct emails accounts), I get a message "please enter a valid email address".
I uninstalled it on the device and on the laptop, I clean the registry (with sktools) and reinstall it. Always the same message "please enter a valid email address". (I didn't get any answer from Mobimate support)
Any idea?
Thank you
Original HTC TyTn II (Kaiser 4550)
Rom: 1.56.406.5 (30/08/07)
Radio: 1.27.12.17
Protocol: 22.45.88.07H
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I second that same problem here, anybody have an answer to this?

TheChampJT said:
I second that same problem here, anybody have an answer to this?
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Try this - Spb Traveler 1.5
its much better

I third to that same problem too.lool.HELPPP PEOPLE

ilordvader said:
Try this - Spb Traveler 1.5
its much better
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does it also include flight scheduals?

bteljuice said:
does it also include flight scheduals?
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No it does not

ilordvader said:
Try this - Spb Traveler 1.5
its much better
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Hey thank you so much man, its much better

TheChampJT said:
Hey thank you so much man, its much better
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welcome pal

I just installed WorldMate from m.mobimate.com and I like the app...except every time my device (htc wizard wm5) is restarted, it attempts to load \Storage Card\Program Files\WorldMate\WMScheduler.exe and fails so I get an error message.
I'd happily uninstall this if anyone can recommend flight monitoring freeware that works.

same thing is happeneing with me.this has been an issue since the first time worldmate pro came out

bteljuice said:
same thing is happeneing with me.this has been an issue since the first time worldmate pro came out
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I ended up uninstalling it, I didn't want a startup error every time I turned on my phone. I just wish there was some good freeware flight-tracking software (and not a website like FlightStats, I want an app)

Few unfixed problems in the kitchen

Ok, I decided to write new thread because most of the rom makers I pm to didn't answer me at all. Some kind of secrets or whatever. I think we should help each other to improve our ROM's but maybe I'm wrong.
I have some issues in my owe ROM which I can't really fix. Maybe someone will know the solution
1. Some ROM makers wrote in their changelogs that now CommMgr is really closing without being on the process list all the time? How?
2. I'm using EZinput keyboard 2.0.33633 full qwerty and two keyboards should be available: full qwerty and phone keyboard. Only the first one is present in the system (the second one now is standard MS keyboard instead of phone keyboard 2.0 EZinput). Why? I changed the EXT package many times to make sure it's ok and all the time the same issue...
3. Is there a working method to change system rings to wav? Every time I do it then they doesn't work. Do I have to change also some registry value?
4. Windows Media Player dosen't play any videos. I changed mHub and mHubVO into some other versions but still no efect. What else could be the reason?
That's all what I'd love to know to make my ROM better
Thanks in advice!

Ok, I see that non of the grate, admired here rom makers are going to help me. Sweet. Anyway... I made a little step ahead with problem no2.
I know how to manually switch between those keyboards using registry entries [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\ezsip]
CurrentSIP set to a00 is Phone Keypad and d00 for fullQWERTY. But still it's impossible to change it in menu (WM6.5 21725)
That's all I want to share with, maybe it will help someone. Should I expect some respond? I don't think so :]

michal_banszel said:
Ok, I see that non of the grate, admired here rom makers are going to help me. Sweet. Anyway... I made a little step ahead with problem no2.
I know how to manually switch between those keyboards using registry entries [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\ezsip]
CurrentSIP set to a00 is Phone Keypad and d00 for fullQWERTY. But still it's impossible to change it in menu (WM6.5 21725)
That's all I want to share with, maybe it will help someone. Should I expect some respond? I don't think so :]
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Dude, about the comm manager, I don't know which version of comm manager are u using. But I got my comm manager working good n closing when clicked on x button. All I can say is don't use any new version like 2.8 or topaz comm manager. Use the 2.7.1.4 version. It's OG diamond comm manager n works nice. I'm using the same version.

Thanks buddy Actually I'm using 2.8.1. I will switch to 2.7.1.4 as u said.
The keyboard is still my biggest problem. I wonder what's wrong that I cannot switch between Full qwerty and phone keypad in the sip menu bar.

michal_banszel said:
Thanks buddy Actually I'm using 2.8.1. I will switch to 2.7.1.4 as u said.
The keyboard is still my biggest problem. I wonder what's wrong that I cannot switch between Full qwerty and phone keypad in the sip menu bar.
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Did u try the GEN Y sip menu..??
I heard someone there saying that if we have the touchflo installed, then only we can change between the phone pad n qwerty board. But touchflo brings some more diff probs elsewhere.
Surprising issue this.. Coz it works perfectly fine with ezinput 1.

My touchflo is completly deleted. All registry entries and app. because in WM6.5 it's totally useless.'
Yes, it is surprising. I checked registry entries and everything seems to be fine... but it's not

michal_banszel said:
My touchflo is completly deleted. All registry entries and app. because in WM6.5 it's totally useless.'
Yes, it is surprising. I checked registry entries and everything seems to be fine... but it's not
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do u have a package of touchflo..?? If not, I'll mail it to you. Try to import it n see if it works. I had in the previous build of this kitchen.

Yes, I have. Ok, I'll try to cook it with TouchFlo but how is touchflo connected with availability to change keyboard from context menu?

michal_banszel said:
Yes, I have. Ok, I'll try to cook it with TouchFlo but how is touchflo connected with availability to change keyboard from context menu?
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i dont know..check gen y thread..u will definitely get moe help there. its surely been talked about in that thread.

I think I know the answer. Ability to change between keyboards wouldn't work on wm6.5 without HTC menuenhancement.

michal_banszel said:
I think I know the answer. Ability to change between keyboards wouldn't work on wm6.5 without HTC menuenhancement.
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nope its not only that, u definitly need the touchflo package, but that package conlicts with wm 6.5
the only thing we can do is wait for HTC to bring out its first WM 6.5 rom for diamond2, then we can take the new touchflo or ezinput package from that rom
about the windows media player issue, make sure u have the DShow OEM in your rom

yozgatg said:
nope its not only that, u definitly need the
about the windows media player issue, make sure u have the DShow OEM in your rom
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I do have it - DShow_2_0_19141126_0 - or maybe there is some newer? Or older working better?

michal_banszel said:
I do have it - DShow_2_0_19141126_0 - or maybe there is some newer? Or older working better?
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there a slight newer one in my kitchen, here are the oems i use for multimedia:
- DShow_2_00_19143426_0
- mHub_6_57_080529_E0
- mHubVO_1_75_090515_X0
u should also check the following drivers in OEMDrivers:
- qtv.dll
- qtv_mp4_decoder.dll
try replacing those drivers

Can you please share with all those files? Please
BTW which ConcurrenceMGR are u using? 1_5_19113219_0000?

michal_banszel said:
Can you please share with all those files? Please
BTW which ConcurrenceMGR are u using? 1_5_19113219_0000?
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just check the link in my signature, i released the full kitchen of my rom

Thanks man!

Ok, it's me again
And again some damn issues in my kitchen
For last two days I was looking for the source of why my Face down mute ring stopped working. In registry everything is fine. Exept of registry, is there any dll library or something responsible for that? Also when I'm in windows file explorere and want to copy the file from IS to main memory (I do tap on "Copy")and then tap on the menu to choose the location then it crashed.
Any ideas for soulution those two problems?
PS. One more thing I forgot... I used to have my clock and calendar to set up automaticly the date and time after HR but now it seems to be gone... Is it up to network type currently using? GPRS/3G? Or maybe some registry value?

michal_banszel said:
Ok, it's me again
And again some damn issues in my kitchen
For last two days I was looking for the source of why my Face down mute ring stopped working. In registry everything is fine. Exept of registry, is there any dll library or something responsible for that? Also when I'm in windows file explorere and want to copy the file from IS to main memory (I do tap on "Copy")and then tap on the menu to choose the location then it crashed.
Any ideas for soulution those two problems?
PS. One more thing I forgot... I used to have my clock and calendar to set up automaticly the date and time after HR but now it seems to be gone... Is it up to network type currently using? GPRS/3G? Or maybe some registry value?
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Hey Michal,
found something that may help with the face down mute issue
pranavsethi said:
Hi,
Does mute on face down work?
Its not working on mine TD and would be glad if someone can get me to know how to get it working.
Even Checked HKLM, and there is no entry in Phone sector for Face down mute.
Kindly advise.
.............................
Pranav
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cednicek said:
Try copy reg code from windows mobile 6.1, where it worked... I think i could work.
CODE: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\PHONE and change FaceDownMuteRing to 0 (default is 1)
Anybody has this problem?
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Hope this helps

Thanks dude but it doesn't work. I was trying with both, 0 and 1 to make sure but still no effect. Friend of mine checked some others 6.5 ROM's and it seems that it doesn't work in any of them.

I found out that automatic time and date set works only if 3G/SHDPA network is available. So this question is out of date.
If anyone find the solution with face down mute ring then please let me know.
Another issue that I was hoping to solve is contact list popping up every time after SR. So in titanium softkeys registry I changed SK1URL into HTCActionScreen. And now... HTCActionScreen popping up every time after SR. Any solution for that?

Issues with 6.5.3??

Hi all,
im currently using Hikey 9.3 ROM which uses build 28002.
It is by far the best, fastest and definately the most stable ROM to date. 5 weeks now and not even ONE soft reset!!!
I have a few small issues but being a slightly more unknown ROM its not well supported so thought I would ask here as I believe the questions could be 6.5 based rather than ROM dependant.
1) Task Manager doesnt close apps only minimises them. In 6.1 this can easily be changed through task manager itself but no such options on 6.5. Any reg changes etc??? p.s. dont refer showcase - love it but freezing issues big time with 6.5 and no current solution.....
2) The standard keyboard changes from qwerty back to default after every soft reset. Just because I havent reset in weeks doesnt solve the problem.
3) Data connection stays open. My email updates every hour and my weather every 2 hours but the data connection doesnt turn off which murders my battery. Any apps or advice here??
Thanks

Hi
I'm using l3v5y's 6.5.3 rom, build 28014, only to issues. 1. when locked you have to tap time first, then unlock. 2. the dailer is missing its skin, i installed ryon WM dailer to fix this
2) The standard keyboard changes from qwerty back to default after every soft reset. Just because I havent reset in weeks doesnt solve the problem.
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Only one keboard touch input
1) Task Manager doesnt close apps only minimises them. In 6.1 this can easily be changed through task manager itself but no such options on 6.5. Any reg changes etc??? p.s. dont refer showcase - love it but freezing issues big time with 6.5 and no current solution.....
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I click end task and they stop running
3) Data connection stays open. My email updates every hour and my weather every 2 hours but the data connection doesnt turn off which murders my battery. Any apps or advice here??
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Sorry, dont us Data Cons, there is an app that will disable it, check this thread, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=412850
Page 10ish someone asks same questoin and is given a app
good luck and i would also change to the L3V5Y Rom

Darren8448 said:
Hi all,
im currently using Hikey 9.3 ROM which uses build 28002.
It is by far the best, fastest and definately the most stable ROM to date. 5 weeks now and not even ONE soft reset!!!
I have a few small issues but being a slightly more unknown ROM its not well supported so thought I would ask here as I believe the questions could be 6.5 based rather than ROM dependant.
1) Task Manager doesnt close apps only minimises them. In 6.1 this can easily be changed through task manager itself but no such options on 6.5. Any reg changes etc??? p.s. dont refer showcase - love it but freezing issues big time with 6.5 and no current solution.....
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try installing this task manager and see if it makes a difference.. see attachments
2) The standard keyboard changes from qwerty back to default after every soft reset. Just because I havent reset in weeks doesnt solve the problem.
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Install the sip selector and that should stop the keyboard changes after resets
hope that helps

jfran said:
try installing this task manager and see if it makes a difference.. see attachments
Install the sip selector and that should stop the keyboard changes after resets
hope that helps
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I'm gonna borrow thos cabs to
need for my iPaq

Badwolve1 said:
Sorry, dont us Data Cons, there is an app that will disable it, check this thread, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=412850
Page 10ish someone asks same questoin and is given a app
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Sorry to be a pain but ive read pages 9-15 and cant seem to find it. Also tried search function for 'data connection' but couldnt find it either.
If you could direct further it would be much appreciated, I'll keep looking too

Darren8448 said:
Sorry to be a pain but ive read pages 9-15 and cant seem to find it. Also tried search function for 'data connection' but couldnt find it either.
If you could direct further it would be much appreciated, I'll keep looking too
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I've found a solution, its very long winded but I'll see if it works.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=484084

Help Can't find any download for windows mobile 6 or 6.5 for xda trion

Hi, I have had to turn my xda trion back to factory settings and now i cannot use my wi-fi or any of the programs i used before. I have been told this will be fixed by an upgrade in the operating system for the phone. I have searched every where to find windows mobile 6 or 6.5. Does anyone know how to find it? Thanks

obviously not one of the incrowd, so no one can be bothered with me

essexgirl said:
obviously not one of the incrowd, so no one can be bothered with me
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Can you not read the headings underneath your thread?

MystaMagoo said:
Can you not read the headings underneath your thread?
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a xda trion is hermes 100 phone isn't it

essexgirl said:
a xda trion is hermes 100 phone isn't it
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yes
Have a look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=461680

wow, after doing a lot of scounting round i have finally got wm6.1 on my hermes 100/ AKA XDA trion
many thanks to you.
one issue with it though, i tried a few, well two, 6.1, 6.5 (couldn't workout wherei was on the phone...dumb blonde and from essex...lol and then went back to 6.1 because i liked the green...lol
anyway my problem is i can't recieve files in bluetooth, i can send them, i've a heard bit about a tab missing but i can't make head or tail of it. I must say this site is amazing
now my
rom is 3.54.255.3
Rom date 22/09/08
radio version 1.38.00.00
Protocol version 32.71.7020.12H
if i can get the bluetooth iisue sorted i'd be over the moon
thanks guys

try this....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=123377&d=1224506157
install it from your phone

it won't do it:-( have installed from my storage card and it cam upwith a load of text, i take it, it installed, have paired my phone with the other phone, can send stuff, just can't recieve, the ftp tab or whatever suppose to be there (only going by what other posters elsewhere have put) isn't there. Imust be thick or something
i have paired the devices
so in devices the item is there, in mode i have both check boxes checked, compports(unsure about this, do i need to do anything in there?)
oops i am now experiencing hang ups on the phone,taking ages to do things...Hmmmm
not going to do a reinstall just though.
are there anymore fixes i can try for this, i have saved this one just in case though, xx

make sure 'beam' is on in comm manager and set to receive all in connections.

been having seveve problems since ilast posted tried to reinstall from scratch the copy of 6.1 i have and the screen was going white, so i have updated to 6.5 again, although i hate it, it's a shame there isn't an updated stock file of 6.5 with the look of 6.1 because that would be ace. Love the new connection in 6.5 on/off thing is i am having the same issues with bluetooth with 6.5, it must be my phone??? don't know where to turn now

Try this rom...
http://www.4shared.com/file/135616186/f1034c6c/HermesDarkVisionsv51723017FINAL.html

MystaMagoo said:
Try this rom...
http://www.4shared.com/file/135616186/f1034c6c/HermesDarkVisionsv51723017FINAL.html
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link won't work for me:-( i have reinstalled 6.1, but it hasn't fixed it. But it maybe useful to know that if you do try a clean install of something, inother words the same on top of them same rom,and it hangs then it maybe worth installing a different one and then going back to the one you want, it worked for me anyway...lol

essexgirl said:
link won't work for me:-( i have reinstalled 6.1, but it hasn't fixed it. But it maybe useful to know that if you do try a clean install of something, inother words the same on top of them same rom,and it hangs then it maybe worth installing a different one and then going back to the one you want, it worked for me anyway...lol
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flash the at&t one before you flash the rom of your choice. It is essential to getting your phone to work well with 6.1 and 6.5 roms and eliminating tons of problems.
also flash using the sd method if possible

addicus said:
flash the at&t one before you flash the rom of your choice. It is essential to getting your phone to work well with 6.1 and 6.5 roms and eliminating tons of problems.
also flash using the sd method if possible
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eh?? AT & T one? whats that....forgive mi ignorance
i am currently downloading this one now

addicus said:
flash the at&t one before you flash the rom of your choice. It is essential to getting your phone to work well with 6.1 and 6.5 roms and eliminating tons of problems.
also flash using the sd method if possible
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flash from a sdcard??? even i know you don't do that

MystaMagoo said:
Try this rom...
http://www.4shared.com/file/135616186/f1034c6c/HermesDarkVisionsv51723017FINAL.html
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no offence but that rom is awful, it slows my phone, the backgrounds are rubbish in it, the different keypads are good though, but i only wanted the normal one. i don't wish to be scathing about it, but it just is not my taste. The bluetooth still doesn't work, no tab, people keep going on about another tab i should have at the bottom of the bluetooth, can someone clarify this??
i must say though., seeing the WIFI and Bluetooth on the screen is brilliant. The today screen is extremely basic. why isn't the start screen editable?? i'd like messages, clock, file explorer, and a few other things but there you go.
i am now searching for another 6.1 to rival the first one i found or a 6.5 that isn't to overthe top

Actually flashing with the microsd card is the preferred way because it's faster, more reliable and doesn't require you be connected to a PC. I think you should read the wiki a little (not meant to be condescending). If you want nice 6.5 roms that don't slow you down then try the lite versions. You will find them all with links to the at&t base rom.

finally tonight i have found what i have been searching for
the shipped 02 software
i am a complete newbie, and i'm totally wondering why no one pointed me at this when i first came to this forum, it has even replaced that stupid Dark vision HTC splash screen...rubbish!!!
It has fixed my bluetooth issue straight away, i know you like pushng the boundaries on here but christ i have spent 5 days searching for this!!
hopefully any newbies will find this post,it for a XDA Trion or Hermes 100 as i later found out and is the software that rolls out from 02
oh god finally.

warr38
Hi Essexgirl. Can you please tell me, where did you find the shipped 02 software? Do you have a link for it and what version of Windows Mobile is it?