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best way to encode video?

heya
i've got a P3300 with original rom WM6. and a sandisk 1GB SD.
i use TCPMP or WMP and i'd like to encode videos to enjoy watching them while traveling.
so far i've tried different encode programs, FPS, audio tracks, etc and i get always a bad result like audio/video desync, low video quality, not smooth video, mettalic sound, you take the pick, i've got it all except a nice video
so, what would be the best program to ENCODE and what options?
and which would be the best one to reproduce and what options? coz TCPMP has loads of options, so many i get lost in them. i tried a lot, but didn't get better results (different, but not better) so i guess the encoding part on my PC is also to blame.
any suggestions, links, faqs or whatever you could help me a bit? thx.

I use WinAvi to convert my movies to wmv, using the
Local Area Network 384kbps, get movies at around 200-300Mbytes.. looks and sound ok to me.. I use WMP to play the movies... on my wizard

I'm using the Power-Tool Canopus Procoder to encode the videos in DivX Format with 240 x 320 pixel.
the videos looking good and have a small size.

http://www.pocketdivxencoder.net/
Can even encode subs into the avi.....
and the best feature...... it's free........

suske-wiske said:
http://www.pocketdivxencoder.net/
Can even encode subs into the avi.....
and the best feature...... it's free........
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yepp, using this now. i get nearly perfect results now, but will try and teak the settings a little bit more when i have some time.

suske-wiske said:
http://www.pocketdivxencoder.net/
Can even encode subs into the avi.....
and the best feature...... it's free........
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I agree and i use TCPM to play it with - It works great and is also free

MicTh said:
I agree and i use TCPM to play it with - It works great and is also free
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u got any favorite setting in the encoder or playback program to get better results?

anyone use super to convert vids?

ive been trying to play vids on my dash but the lag is unbearable
i searched and got a few things but nothing.. mp4 default didnt work not even avi for pocket pc
i dont get why avi for pocket pc didnt work...may need a codec but it plays the first sec. and stops...well pauses.

There's a bit about video here
What are you using as a player?

tennisshoeninja said:
ive been trying to play vids on my dash but the lag is unbearable
i searched and got a few things but nothing.. mp4 default didnt work not even avi for pocket pc
i dont get why avi for pocket pc didnt work...may need a codec but it plays the first sec. and stops...well pauses.
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mine play perfect with no skips but im not ripping them from dvd. what i do is take divx (avi) files from dvd rips that i *cough* acquire *cough* from...places..anyway.. i take those files and use pocket divx encoder (which is free) and i shrink them down to pda size. i select xvid and i bump the frame rate to 30.000. you can adjust the sound and picture quality depending on how small you want the file to be. they all play perfect and a 700mb file usually ends up being about 250mb - 300mb
what player are you using?
if you are trying to download flash files from like youtube or something....i use that same software to convert them too. just seems to make it smoother.
also a lot of us overclock to the phone to make things a bit smoother overall

Try this thread.

stylez said:
There's a bit about video here
What are you using as a player?
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tcpmp...is what ive always used...

gixxum said:
mine play perfect with no skips but im not ripping them from dvd. what i do is take divx (avi) files from dvd rips that i *cough* acquire *cough* from...places..anyway.. i take those files and use pocket divx encoder (which is free) and i shrink them down to pda size. i select xvid and i bump the frame rate to 30.000. you can adjust the sound and picture quality depending on how small you want the file to be. they all play perfect and a 700mb file usually ends up being about 250mb - 300mb
what player are you using?
if you are trying to download flash files from like youtube or something....i use that same software to convert them too. just seems to make it smoother.
also a lot of us overclock to the phone to make things a bit smoother overall
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my vids arent in avi. to in the first place tho

tennisshoeninja said:
my vids arent in avi. to in the first place tho
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what kind of videos?
im just too cheap to buy the dvd which is why i go with divx rips

I also use the pocket divx encoder and my movies play perfectly with pretty good quality. Like gixxum said you can re-align the audio track if it seems a little off.

vwrpm said:
I also use the pocket divx encoder and my movies play perfectly with pretty good quality. Like gixxum said you can re-align the audio track if it seems a little off.
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worked pefectly

SUPER video encoder?

I read many threads in the forum regarding video on the HD and after hours spent trailing through a post which is now locked I settled on SUPER encoding to flash FLV files... only problem is if I feed it a 1.4gb H264 file (which the HD cant play) it ends up at 2.6Gb I still run the stock SD card 8Gb.
Am I missing a setting? I really wanna sort the video out on my HD! but would like the movies to stay similar size to the original rip....

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467112
works good

pureheart said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467112
works good
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Yep treid that one too... the files always end up waaaaay bigger than the orginal... I tried a 4Gb BRrip with that and it came out almost the size of the flash card....

Then you selected the wrong bitrate.
Assuming your movie is 90 minutes long, then using the "HD" setting bitrate of 750kbit/s your movie will be (750*60*90)/8/1024 = 494 MB.
What you are stating is not possible, unless your movie is 10 hours long or you manually entered an insanely high bitrate, such as 7500kbit/s, which is completely useless and which the Touch HD can not handle anyway.
The tool is coded for simplicity. If you don't understand what anything does, then you just add the files, select the output dir and press "start". Experimenting around by setting random options which you do not fully understand obviously will result in spectacular failure most of the time. So I recommend you to try it again. If it doesn't work, then let me know and I will fix it.
All this said, if you rather not use my GUI, then you can get an acceptable result with SUPER by using iPhone profile. The quality will be worse, seeking might be broken and it might slow down sometimes, but other than that, it should work.

I used a Blue Ray rip.... 4.5Gig..... it ended up at almost 6Gig....
I used the HD GUI you made because it was so easy.... just remoting into my server to see how the next one I'm trying is getting on.....

Have you tried using WinFF ~ http://winff.org/html/
I used to use SUPER but changed to WinFF because:-
1. It is quicker.
2. File sizes are smaller.
3. It is very easy to use.
4. It supports a number of devices including Mobile Phones, iPod etc.

Thanks Beards, I'll give it a go to...
I have got a file out of the encoder now that looks good!
But what the heck do I play it with...? I searched for media players and tried Core player and of course M$ Media Player... both are a no go... M$ wont even play it... and Core player with no access to GPU is also a no go...
Any players take advantage of GPU acceleration and play the outputs?

Geeba said:
Thanks Beards, I'll give it a go to...
I have got a file out of the encoder now that looks good!
But what the heck do I play it with...? I searched for media players and tried Core player and of course M$ Media Player... both are a no go... M$ wont even play it... and Core player with no access to GPU is also a no go...
Any players take advantage of GPU acceleration and play the outputs?
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What settings on WinFF did you use to encode the video?

Ahhh... not got round to using that one yet... I was using the HD GUI made by projection, 4.5gb Blue ray rip source, 800x480 output.

Just wondered if someone could point me in the direction of a player that has enough grunt to play these rips? Core is Jerk'o'vision...

Geeba said:
Just wondered if someone could point me in the direction of a player that has enough grunt to play these rips? Core is Jerk'o'vision...
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If you're using the HD GUI that was talked about above (great program, thanks to those who made it), then you should play the files in the TF3D video player

Svegetto said:
If you're using the HD GUI that was talked about above (great program, thanks to those who made it), then you should play the files in the TF3D video player
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I had no idea there was one? Is it installed from the factory? I cant seem to find it?

atm the only hw accelerated players are htc album and wmp... the rest is software render...

another option to watch Movies "DivX Mobile Player v0.91 (30-Sep-2008)"
You can install "DivX Mobile Player v0.91 (30-Sep-2008)" and play those .avi movies (DivX, Xvid, etc) without converting. You can download here: http://labs.divx.com/MobileCommunity
It works fine for me... I'm using 8Gb microSD...

crashDebug said:
atm the only hw accelerated players are htc album and wmp... the rest is software render...
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Where do I find the HTC player?
I've just tried DivX player... its not really as good as Core on mine for some reason... ?

Would really appreciate a pointer on GPU accelerated player
I've treid M$ media player... wont play it... core player not enough grunt and the HTC player people speak of... I cant find? searched all of my HD programs..

Dude, just skim along the TF3D menu to Photos and Videos.
If your video's in the default album it will appear as a thumbnail here if it isn't just use the Album button to browse to it.
Basically the HTC player they're on about i launched when you click on a thumbnail in the TF3D Photo's and Video's screen (or browse to an album location).
Yup - it was there all the time

Thanks mate... I understand now...
I guess MP4 isnt supported.... my movies arent there...

video playback.... choppy

I tried putting a small video clip on my memory card. When I open it it plays like it's in slow motion, and it's really choppy. The audio for the clip plays in normal speed.
so a few questions...
Is there a best format of video files for my excalibur?
Is there mabey a player better than windows media player?
I hacked my psp a few years back. I was able to download full movies and watch them on it. I may be asking too much... but I'm wondering if it's possible to do this with my phone.
when I'm at work with my phone in my hand the ol' boss doesn't mind. Of course when I'm hanging on to a game system.... the **** hit's the fan!

Here you are a free bit of software that can recode videos http://www.erightsoft.com/SUPER.html download link @ bottom there is lot's of speal...
I use A-One FLV to AVI but it's not free, there is alot of software that can do it.
I recomended SUPER as i know lots of peeps use it, so set the resolution 320x240 keep bitrate down on video larger it is larger output file, audio can be set to mono and again about 64kbit/s and still be fine, .mp4 is a good quality for Mobile video or for even more compression .3gp
Re: Player TCPMP "to which is free" or CorePlayer "the pay version"

I've tried downloading TCPMP. When I try installing it I get a message that the install package isn't designed for my device.
this is where I'm downloading it from.
http://tcpmp.en.softonic.com/pocketpc/download#pathbar
Is there a different version that I need to use?

oilspot said:
I've tried downloading TCPMP. When I try installing it I get a message that the install package isn't designed for my device.
this is where I'm downloading it from.
http://tcpmp.en.softonic.com/pocketpc/download#pathbar
Is there a different version that I need to use?
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Do a search on this forum know that one with all codecs was posted.

stylez said:
Do a search on this forum know that one with all codecs was posted.
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that did it... and here's where I found my answer.
thanks again!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=468853&highlight=tcpmp+download
tried playing a small avi. player says I need to mess with the settings. I'll see If I can get it figured out.

oilspot said:
that did it... and here's where I found my answer.
thanks again!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=468853&highlight=tcpmp+download
tried playing a small avi. player says I need to mess with the settings. I'll see If I can get it figured out.
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All you have to do is enable all file formats on your options

Related question... How do I watch the phone-recorded videos on my PC after I pull them over via ActiveSync? I tried converting them with Handbreak but they are not recognized as a compatible format.

dewey1973 said:
Related question... How do I watch the phone-recorded videos on my PC after I pull them over via ActiveSync? I tried converting them with Handbreak but they are not recognized as a compatible format.
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Try VLC Media Player you will want codecs CCCP is XP & Vista compatable "if you have any other codec packs installed then do not install"

well i actually wanted to start a mobile movie thread
like..i will be encodeing movies for mobiles..which will play without a hitch...and patches...
and uploading them on rapidshare or megaupload..
sooo what say??

what happens if you run out of battery in the middle of a movie, can you fastforward it afterwards and in an "easy" way? If it's possible, it depends on the video format, video player or both?

Do 720p mkv files work flawlessly without re-encoding?

Hi everyone,
I first got to say that I have not yet purchased GalaxyNexus. However I have a big concern in regards to 720p HD video files from the net. I realized this on my Galaxy Tab10.1 after I bought it that most HD files need to be re-encoded in order to run without lag or being choppy. I was very disappointed with that.
Would someone tell me how is the performance of mkv files on GalaxyNexus.
Thanks.
Sent from my HTC Hero using XDA App

Yes, use MX Player from the market, it can run just about anything smoothly

Or try dice player, only problem is its not allowing me to buy full version after 3 days trial has ran out, anyone know a way around that?
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium

heck it plays 1080p mkvs flawlessly. I have a 11gb mkv of Drive that sits on my phone just to show off. Now to get that MHL adapter.

biggiestuff said:
heck it plays 1080p mkvs flawlessly. I have a 11gb mkv of Drive that sits on my phone just to show off. Now to get that MHL adapter.
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I tried a sample of 1080p mkv on mxplayer and it was choking on SW only (no HW available). What player did you use?

CrazyDelta said:
Hi everyone,
I first got to say that I have not yet purchased GalaxyNexus. However I have a big concern in regards to 720p HD video files from the net. I realized this on my Galaxy Tab10.1 after I bought it that most HD files need to be re-encoded in order to run without lag or being choppy. I was very disappointed with that.
Would someone tell me how is the performance of mkv files on GalaxyNexus.
Thanks.
Sent from my HTC Hero using XDA App
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Whether it plays depends on a lot of things. The video format, (MKV is just a container), the audio format and most importantly the bitrate. A lot of desktop PCs will chunder along if the bitrate is too high for it's hardware to handle, so a phone will struggle even more.

The bottleneck seems to be the speed of the internal storage, for me. It plays stuff flawlessly, but if I play a 1080p file with a super high bitrate, it's all choppy.

cvbcbcmv said:
You a usenet user? Mkv files are all over that. (I hope you are, I wanna talk to somebody about how amazing it is!!!)
I watched a 3 gig mkv file of a 1 hour season finale of flashpoint (anybody watch it BTW?) and it was flawless. Jules was as amazing as ever, and Ed was as bald as ever.
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what do you mean usernet user? whats that? and my mkv files play fine 720p and 1080p

Thanks for the reply guys. Appreciate it.
However, I found this video review on YouTube and it kinda made me pessimistic.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=eDnY_nZ2SiE
*I hope it is ok posting a link to a video here.

CrazyDelta said:
Thanks for the reply guys. Appreciate it.
However, I found this video review on YouTube and it kinda made me pessimistic.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=eDnY_nZ2SiE
*I hope it is ok posting a link to a video here.
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Not sure what player or videos are being used in this video but my 720 en 1080p MKV's are all working smooth on dice player.

cvbcbcmv said:
You a usenet user? Mkv files are all over that. (I hope you are, I wanna talk to somebody about how amazing it is!!!)
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The first rule of Usenet is, you don't talk about Usenet.

Is there a trick to getting these super large files on your phone? Everytime I've tried to drag an 8GB file over it complains it only takes files under 4GB. Are you splitting them?

lettcco said:
I tried a sample of 1080p mkv on mxplayer and it was choking on SW only (no HW available). What player did you use?
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I used diceplayer trial. That app is great. hopefully they get it working soon so I can get the full version.

not sure what your guys issue with dice player is. I have it on mine and it plays mkvs, wmvs, avis flawlessly

Dice Player plays high bitrate 1080p flawless for me. The only problem is the trial is only available so you have to uninstall and reinstall every 3 days.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using XDA App

neok44 said:
not sure what your guys issue with dice player is. I have it on mine and it plays mkvs, wmvs, avis flawlessly
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The problem is the dev's actually. The account he was using to receive payment for the full version got suspended (for whatever reason), and due to that he isn't able to continue selling the full version anymore. If you were an early adopter (like I was, due to having a Asus Transformer), it's a non-issue because you already bought it. I'm not sure why the dev is taking forever to fix the issue.
EDIT:And on that note, I also must say that all MKV files I have downloaded work perfectly fine on my nexus using diceplayer. Both 720P and 1080P (only tried 1, just to see if it worked, since it is rather pointless unless you're outputting to a TV) work just fine and without any issues for me. I haven't tried any strangely encoded files yet, but so far all normal HDTV encoded files worked just fine.

cvbcbcmv said:
You a usenet user? Mkv files are all over that. (I hope you are, I wanna talk to somebody about how amazing it is!!!)
I watched a 3 gig mkv file of a 1 hour season finale of flashpoint (anybody watch it BTW?) and it was flawless. Jules was as amazing as ever, and Ed was as bald as ever.
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man I wish usenet was free

CrazyDelta said:
Thanks for the reply guys. Appreciate it.
However, I found this video review on YouTube and it kinda made me pessimistic.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=eDnY_nZ2SiE
*I hope it is ok posting a link to a video here.
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It's smooth once it get's hardware decoded.
No smartphone processor can decode 1080p without lag, which is exactly why OMAP put an IVA-HD chip inside to do all the work.

Much like the rest of the members I use dice player and it plays everything i throw at it. I use to have an issue with 12mbps MP4 files but they seem to have corrected that and now it is smooth for everything i throw at it.

is there a place to buy the full version or obtain one by other cough cough means?