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best way to encode video?

heya
i've got a P3300 with original rom WM6. and a sandisk 1GB SD.
i use TCPMP or WMP and i'd like to encode videos to enjoy watching them while traveling.
so far i've tried different encode programs, FPS, audio tracks, etc and i get always a bad result like audio/video desync, low video quality, not smooth video, mettalic sound, you take the pick, i've got it all except a nice video
so, what would be the best program to ENCODE and what options?
and which would be the best one to reproduce and what options? coz TCPMP has loads of options, so many i get lost in them. i tried a lot, but didn't get better results (different, but not better) so i guess the encoding part on my PC is also to blame.
any suggestions, links, faqs or whatever you could help me a bit? thx.

I use WinAvi to convert my movies to wmv, using the
Local Area Network 384kbps, get movies at around 200-300Mbytes.. looks and sound ok to me.. I use WMP to play the movies... on my wizard

I'm using the Power-Tool Canopus Procoder to encode the videos in DivX Format with 240 x 320 pixel.
the videos looking good and have a small size.

http://www.pocketdivxencoder.net/
Can even encode subs into the avi.....
and the best feature...... it's free........

suske-wiske said:
http://www.pocketdivxencoder.net/
Can even encode subs into the avi.....
and the best feature...... it's free........
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yepp, using this now. i get nearly perfect results now, but will try and teak the settings a little bit more when i have some time.

suske-wiske said:
http://www.pocketdivxencoder.net/
Can even encode subs into the avi.....
and the best feature...... it's free........
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I agree and i use TCPM to play it with - It works great and is also free

MicTh said:
I agree and i use TCPM to play it with - It works great and is also free
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u got any favorite setting in the encoder or playback program to get better results?

Video Help

Is there a better way to Play Videos on Dash
I tried alot of different movies and music videos but they don't show to good.. So I was wondering is there anyway to get movie or videos playing better on the Dash?? Is there a app or something I could use to play movies better?? I mean I tried .wmv, .avi, .3gp and none of they all played pretty lousy...
Besides TCPMP because I tried installing it and it said "Unsuccessful because it wasn't made for my phone" and I don't know if it was because I used the wrong one or what..
Thanks In Advance...

Try The TCPMP/PLAYER In My YouTube Thread
gr8_gamer said:
I tried alot of different movies and music videos but they don't show to good.. So I was wondering is there anyway to get movie or videos playing better on the Dash?? Is there a app or something I could use to play movies better?? I mean I tried .wmv, .avi, .3gp and none of they all played pretty lousy...
Besides TCPMP because I tried installing it and it said "Unsuccessful because it wasn't made for my phone" and I don't know if it was because I used the wrong one or what..
Thanks In Advance...
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Try istalling the TCPMP/Player in my YouYube WizzStar thread, the download is located in post # 1, that one is beefed up a little and should give you very good video resolution quality. Install it too your SD card. It will work on the Dash, I know that already! Let me know how things work out for you.......!

Intergalactic said:
Try istalling the TCPMP/Player in my YouYube WizzStar thread, the download is located in post # 1, that one is beefed up a little and should give you very good video resolution quality. Install it too your SD card. It will work on the Dash, I know that already! Let me know how things work out for you.......!
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I got the TCPMP Player from your thread and installed it to my SD Card as you said... Installation went fine and it works.. Thanks Fam
Now I was wondering do you what format would play best with it (meaning settings for a video file)????
Thanks again

what is the better video format and size for the s620 ?
and what software should i use ?
help please

Mp4 is the best in terms of quality, but Mp4 videos take up more space.

ssj3g0ku said:
what is the better video format and size for the s620 ?
and what software should i use ?
help please
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.mp4 is the best to use to recode good quality films for dash @ 320 x 240, just keep the bitrate low, mono sound about 92kbps will keep the size down.
You can use SUPER © http://www.erightsoft.com/SUPER.html it's free.
I use A-One FLV to AVI as i use it for YouTube but will encode any file to .mp4.

Consider using 3gp format. The quality is good and the file size is small. There are a number of 3gp converters available.

thanks
im interested in quality and speed not the mb
thanks guys
well. i converted a video with that program "super" to mp4 and it works very crapy and slow
can somewone please tell me exact the format file,video format,sound format,rezolution exactly for the videos to convert ?

ssj3g0ku said:
im interested in quality and speed not the mb
thanks guys
well. i converted a video with that program "super" to mp4 and it works very crapy and slow
can somewone please tell me exact the format file,video format,sound format,rezolution exactly for the videos to convert ?
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The MB will play a big factor in quality as the larger the file the harder it is for the Dash to read the ammount of data to frames.
Anyway .mp4 is the best mobile codec.
320 x 240
Lower the bitrate and keep the fps the same as original source.
Already commented on sound.
Oc'in your device will also help with playback and having a good media player on Dash?

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im using windows media player
dont know other good player..
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there is a much better one ?

ssj3g0ku said:
im using windows media player
dont know other good player..
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there is a much better one ?
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Search TCPMP.

stylez said:
Search TCMP.
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thanks man

how to play video on dash..
I know noob question just cant get it right..

cazper210 said:
I know noob question just cant get it right..
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Well don't use a frog but TCPMP will do it, you will want your vid's in .mp4 to which there is loads of software available for mobile conversion online Super © is a free one.
The trick is to keep the file size down you can do this via mono sound as the speaker on phone is mono and keep the bitrate down and also keeping the bitrate down on the video.
Hope this helps it is covered in other threadz on here.

there is an alternative , divx mobile . http://www.divx.com/mobile/requirements.php
average size when using divx converter for a full length movie is ~ 200 - 250 mb.
using it on my htc s621 , flashed with kavana's 6.1 rom .

SUPER video encoder?

I read many threads in the forum regarding video on the HD and after hours spent trailing through a post which is now locked I settled on SUPER encoding to flash FLV files... only problem is if I feed it a 1.4gb H264 file (which the HD cant play) it ends up at 2.6Gb I still run the stock SD card 8Gb.
Am I missing a setting? I really wanna sort the video out on my HD! but would like the movies to stay similar size to the original rip....

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467112
works good

pureheart said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467112
works good
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Yep treid that one too... the files always end up waaaaay bigger than the orginal... I tried a 4Gb BRrip with that and it came out almost the size of the flash card....

Then you selected the wrong bitrate.
Assuming your movie is 90 minutes long, then using the "HD" setting bitrate of 750kbit/s your movie will be (750*60*90)/8/1024 = 494 MB.
What you are stating is not possible, unless your movie is 10 hours long or you manually entered an insanely high bitrate, such as 7500kbit/s, which is completely useless and which the Touch HD can not handle anyway.
The tool is coded for simplicity. If you don't understand what anything does, then you just add the files, select the output dir and press "start". Experimenting around by setting random options which you do not fully understand obviously will result in spectacular failure most of the time. So I recommend you to try it again. If it doesn't work, then let me know and I will fix it.
All this said, if you rather not use my GUI, then you can get an acceptable result with SUPER by using iPhone profile. The quality will be worse, seeking might be broken and it might slow down sometimes, but other than that, it should work.

I used a Blue Ray rip.... 4.5Gig..... it ended up at almost 6Gig....
I used the HD GUI you made because it was so easy.... just remoting into my server to see how the next one I'm trying is getting on.....

Have you tried using WinFF ~ http://winff.org/html/
I used to use SUPER but changed to WinFF because:-
1. It is quicker.
2. File sizes are smaller.
3. It is very easy to use.
4. It supports a number of devices including Mobile Phones, iPod etc.

Thanks Beards, I'll give it a go to...
I have got a file out of the encoder now that looks good!
But what the heck do I play it with...? I searched for media players and tried Core player and of course M$ Media Player... both are a no go... M$ wont even play it... and Core player with no access to GPU is also a no go...
Any players take advantage of GPU acceleration and play the outputs?

Geeba said:
Thanks Beards, I'll give it a go to...
I have got a file out of the encoder now that looks good!
But what the heck do I play it with...? I searched for media players and tried Core player and of course M$ Media Player... both are a no go... M$ wont even play it... and Core player with no access to GPU is also a no go...
Any players take advantage of GPU acceleration and play the outputs?
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What settings on WinFF did you use to encode the video?

Ahhh... not got round to using that one yet... I was using the HD GUI made by projection, 4.5gb Blue ray rip source, 800x480 output.

Just wondered if someone could point me in the direction of a player that has enough grunt to play these rips? Core is Jerk'o'vision...

Geeba said:
Just wondered if someone could point me in the direction of a player that has enough grunt to play these rips? Core is Jerk'o'vision...
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If you're using the HD GUI that was talked about above (great program, thanks to those who made it), then you should play the files in the TF3D video player

Svegetto said:
If you're using the HD GUI that was talked about above (great program, thanks to those who made it), then you should play the files in the TF3D video player
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I had no idea there was one? Is it installed from the factory? I cant seem to find it?

atm the only hw accelerated players are htc album and wmp... the rest is software render...

another option to watch Movies "DivX Mobile Player v0.91 (30-Sep-2008)"
You can install "DivX Mobile Player v0.91 (30-Sep-2008)" and play those .avi movies (DivX, Xvid, etc) without converting. You can download here: http://labs.divx.com/MobileCommunity
It works fine for me... I'm using 8Gb microSD...

crashDebug said:
atm the only hw accelerated players are htc album and wmp... the rest is software render...
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Where do I find the HTC player?
I've just tried DivX player... its not really as good as Core on mine for some reason... ?

Would really appreciate a pointer on GPU accelerated player
I've treid M$ media player... wont play it... core player not enough grunt and the HTC player people speak of... I cant find? searched all of my HD programs..

Dude, just skim along the TF3D menu to Photos and Videos.
If your video's in the default album it will appear as a thumbnail here if it isn't just use the Album button to browse to it.
Basically the HTC player they're on about i launched when you click on a thumbnail in the TF3D Photo's and Video's screen (or browse to an album location).
Yup - it was there all the time

Thanks mate... I understand now...
I guess MP4 isnt supported.... my movies arent there...

video playback.... choppy

I tried putting a small video clip on my memory card. When I open it it plays like it's in slow motion, and it's really choppy. The audio for the clip plays in normal speed.
so a few questions...
Is there a best format of video files for my excalibur?
Is there mabey a player better than windows media player?
I hacked my psp a few years back. I was able to download full movies and watch them on it. I may be asking too much... but I'm wondering if it's possible to do this with my phone.
when I'm at work with my phone in my hand the ol' boss doesn't mind. Of course when I'm hanging on to a game system.... the **** hit's the fan!

Here you are a free bit of software that can recode videos http://www.erightsoft.com/SUPER.html download link @ bottom there is lot's of speal...
I use A-One FLV to AVI but it's not free, there is alot of software that can do it.
I recomended SUPER as i know lots of peeps use it, so set the resolution 320x240 keep bitrate down on video larger it is larger output file, audio can be set to mono and again about 64kbit/s and still be fine, .mp4 is a good quality for Mobile video or for even more compression .3gp
Re: Player TCPMP "to which is free" or CorePlayer "the pay version"

I've tried downloading TCPMP. When I try installing it I get a message that the install package isn't designed for my device.
this is where I'm downloading it from.
http://tcpmp.en.softonic.com/pocketpc/download#pathbar
Is there a different version that I need to use?

oilspot said:
I've tried downloading TCPMP. When I try installing it I get a message that the install package isn't designed for my device.
this is where I'm downloading it from.
http://tcpmp.en.softonic.com/pocketpc/download#pathbar
Is there a different version that I need to use?
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Do a search on this forum know that one with all codecs was posted.

stylez said:
Do a search on this forum know that one with all codecs was posted.
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that did it... and here's where I found my answer.
thanks again!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=468853&highlight=tcpmp+download
tried playing a small avi. player says I need to mess with the settings. I'll see If I can get it figured out.

oilspot said:
that did it... and here's where I found my answer.
thanks again!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=468853&highlight=tcpmp+download
tried playing a small avi. player says I need to mess with the settings. I'll see If I can get it figured out.
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All you have to do is enable all file formats on your options

Related question... How do I watch the phone-recorded videos on my PC after I pull them over via ActiveSync? I tried converting them with Handbreak but they are not recognized as a compatible format.

dewey1973 said:
Related question... How do I watch the phone-recorded videos on my PC after I pull them over via ActiveSync? I tried converting them with Handbreak but they are not recognized as a compatible format.
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Try VLC Media Player you will want codecs CCCP is XP & Vista compatable "if you have any other codec packs installed then do not install"

well i actually wanted to start a mobile movie thread
like..i will be encodeing movies for mobiles..which will play without a hitch...and patches...
and uploading them on rapidshare or megaupload..
sooo what say??

what happens if you run out of battery in the middle of a movie, can you fastforward it afterwards and in an "easy" way? If it's possible, it depends on the video format, video player or both?

movies on evo

Can anyone recommend a good dvd ripping app so that I can rip movies and convert them to watch on my evo... i can convert them using doubletwist, but I need something to rip them... don't know of a reliable freeware app

you'd think someone that's posted almost 500 times would know about the search tool...
or maybe, that's why you've posted so often.
try handbrake. works like a charm. google it, or look around here. plenty of threads about it already

the best app i've discovered for PC is DVDDecrypter. it works perfectly. allows you to select by chapters, or the whole DVD. good stuff!

DVD Fab Platinum

you'd think someone that's posted almost 500 times would know about the search tool...
or maybe, that's why you've posted so often.
try handbrake. works like a charm. google it, or look around here. plenty of threads about it already
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LOL, I help where I can, but I just didn't want to download a virus from a random site. Thanks for the response.
I asked about this before and just didn't see anything really mention dvd ripping
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http://www.knowyourcell.com/htc/htc-evo-4g/evo-4g-guides/487469/how_to_convert_videos_and_transfer_them_to_the_htc_evo_4g.html

i just dropped sherlock holmes 720p mpeg4 and it plays incredibly well

Avalaunchmods said:
i just dropped sherlock holmes 720p mpeg4 and it plays incredibly well
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just wondering how heavy is the movie file after converting to 720p?

GHOST99K said:
just wondering how heavy is the movie file after converting to 720p?
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4.36 gigs. that is from bd rip from my own bd disc. i use adobe cs4 converter to convert. dropped it on there and although it is a huge file, i am utterly impressed at the quality. stays constant audio and video sync and never drops framerate. blacks are amazing not inky at all and colors are very very vibrant.
but anyways if you are just going to view one movie every once in awhile like i do i recommend dropping 720p onto it. its easy and amazing

just wondering how heavy is the movie file after converting to 720p?
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4.36 gigs. that is from bd rip from my own bd disc. i use adobe cs4 converter to convert. dropped it on there and although it is a huge file, i am utterly impressed at the quality. stays constant audio and video sync and never drops framerate. blacks are amazing not inky at all and colors are very very vibrant.
but anyways if you are just going to view one movie every once in awhile like i do i recommend dropping 720p onto it. its easy and amazing
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you can keep the quality and reduce the file size by a large amount by using handbrake. No need to have a 4gb file.
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Follow these instructions for good quality video with handbrake:
http://www.frankie.bz/blog/tips-and-tricks/convert-video-nexus-one/

spurnout said:
Follow these instructions for good quality video with handbrake:
http://www.frankie.bz/blog/tips-and-tricks/convert-video-nexus-one/
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wow thanks i jus downloaded handbrake and im gonna apply those changes and c how it looks as soon as i get the EVO.

looneylu said:
Can anyone recommend a good dvd ripping app so that I can rip movies and convert them to watch on my evo... i can convert them using doubletwist, but I need something to rip them... don't know of a reliable freeware app
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doubletwist

Doubletwist
Doubletwist is nice, for music and apps. But it rips movies 640 x 320 too small for the screen. There are no preferences I can find the change that. I am on a MAC and I have had great success converting my .AVI files with FFMPEG and the Mp4 presets. THe movies are about 800 megs and look great.

if anyone knows of a good app for converting mkv to mp4 id be interested i ripped all of Battlestar Galactica straight from Bluray disc source its in AVCHD format but i have mkv copies of whole series i could use if i could find easy way to transcode it losslessly or play it in mkv on android looking for a like VLC type video player for android

this is gonna sound weird, but AirVideo server for iPad(it streams videos to the iPad) it's the only app i've tried so far that will convert MKV with little to no quality loss. best part, it's free. just a suggestion.
http://www.inmethod.com/air-video/download.html

spyngamerman said:
if anyone knows of a good app for converting mkv to mp4 id be interested i ripped all of Battlestar Galactica straight from Bluray disc source its in AVCHD format but i have mkv copies of whole series i could use if i could find easy way to transcode it losslessly or play it in mkv on android looking for a like VLC type video player for android
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Try using mkv2vob

Avalaunchmods said:
4.36 gigs. that is from bd rip from my own bd disc. i use adobe cs4 converter to convert. dropped it on there and although it is a huge file, i am utterly impressed at the quality. stays constant audio and video sync and never drops framerate. blacks are amazing not inky at all and colors are very very vibrant.
but anyways if you are just going to view one movie every once in awhile like i do i recommend dropping 720p onto it. its easy and amazing
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Just a quick note... Unless you are playing the movie through hdmi on a 720p display, why would you be encoding 720p movies for a phone with a 800x480 display? 4.3gb sounds like a lot of wasted space for all those extra unused pixels.
For everyone else, handbrake is the free simple alternative. And for people that care to learn a few command line options, ffmpeg is fantastic. I get much smaller better looking files from the open source x264 compiled ffmpeg. But, configured correctly, handbrake can be a front end for ffmpeg anyway.

Download Daniusoft DVD Ripper.
It searches for your phone, connects, converts the movie and places it on your sd card in the correct folder. All by itself.

flexgrip said:
Just a quick note... Unless you are playing the movie through hdmi on a 720p display, why would you be encoding 720p movies for a phone with a 800x480 display?
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Also consider the wall I hit when I first tried ripping--I ripped the DVD at 800x480 with all the correct settings, but when I tried to throw it up on my HDTV via the HDMI output, my TV would not recognize the non-standard size.
So you have a choice: 1) rip to 720p if you are going to output via HDMI or 2) rip to 800x480 if you are ONLY going to view the movie on the phone.