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Itellipad & Intellidial available?? UPDATE: iMate versio

I read in an article on ppcw.net that the XDAIIi (yes 'i') has so called Itellipad and Intellidial.
Both techniques offer a better useable input manner (as compared to a qwerty stylus keyboard) especially for on-the-road-use: big buttons with the same functioning as keys on a regular mobile phone.
I know there is a tool called 'blimkeys' that has about this functionality, but apparently Microsoft (or O2) has put it into a new device as standard s/w.
Has anyone seen a ROM file that has Intellipad / Intellidial in it?
If so: PLZ post it here!!!
I would like to see if it would be possible to implemetn on a Himalaya.
edit: See my post from 14-12 in which I uploaded the iMate JAM versions

see this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=13066&highlight=
works on my XDAII and MDAIII in English, it must use default dictionary.

Do you mean you simply installed the cab and then was able to continue using an English language dialer?
That would be great.

Not the dialer - haven't seen a cab for that- but the T9 works great!

I dont get it:
The Intellipad stuff (T9 is just a feature of that) seems to be integrated with the dialer. Fro what I understand now is that IntelliPad and InterlliDialer are two different apps . . .
Is the IntelliPad from T9.cab English or German language?
And how about the IntelliPad/T9 colours (especially the Intellipad specific button-colours), are they T-Mobile pinkish or default/O2 blue?
Could you also post the contents of the following registry branch (I noted the defaults):
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\HTC\IntelliPad]
"Languages"=dword:00000001
"PopupMenu"=dword:00000001
"DockList"=dword:00000000
"OneSymbol"=dword:00000001
"AddSpace"=dword:00000001
"PlaySound"=dword:00000001
"HelpFile"="IntelliPad-1.0-(German).htm"
"ResourceFile"="IntelliPadRCGerman.dll"

There is no dialer, just T9 sip for typing SMS or using in any program. So the Intelidialer must be a separate app.
The colours are T-Mobile default pinkish (yuk) and all the registry settings are as you posted. It must use the default dictionary because although it says that it's German it is suggesting English words.

Thanks, thats what i thought.
Guess we have to wait for Non-T-Mobile versions of the device to come out before we can use a non-pinkish SIP.
From what I read on ppc-welt.info I am quite sure the dialer is in the ExtROM of the Magician too as 'Intellidialer.cab' (original name :wink: )
Now If someone could post that cab!

That would be great.

IntelliDialer
and remeber... this cab is for test purposes only...

Hey anyone out there get the intellidialer to work on xda2?don't seems to be working.

The dialer seems to identify a Himalaya and thus showing only the 'old' dialer (well, it is a different T-Mobile one, but even more awful than the original)

Will the IntelliDialer works on an I-Mate PDA2K?

Have a try!
Maybe it only works on Magician, maybe it just needs WM2003SE (like Blue Angel)
Plz post the results

I didn't work out for me.
The only thing it did on my I-Mate PDA2K was changing the dialskin to that ugly pink T Mobile dialer

Tried Intellidialer on English MDAIII - works fine, but in German, still I can see my contacts and dial with one hand!

IntelliDialer
With regards to the IntelliDialer does anybody know does the Magician run on WM2003SE?
And if so does WM2003SE integrates with .NET Framework?
I suspect we have to install .NET to get this baby working.

yes, the magician runs on WM2003SE, but apparently the program somehow is tied up with the dialer, since I'm running .net framework and It still doesn't work.

Oops
Yorch said:
yes, the magician runs on WM2003SE, but apparently the program somehow is tied up with the dialer, since I'm running .net framework and It still doesn't work.
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You are right and I was wrong Bro.
Went over the CABs and it adds up.

Since Intellidialer can de transferred succesfully to other devices based on certain pre-requisites (below one user managed to get it to work on a MDAII onother did not succeed on pda2k) we need to find out WHAT pre-requisites (hopefully its not SE dependent).
Now If both xda-rocks and VW_ELM could publish their config . . .

Intellidialer appears to be reliant on WM2003SE.
It was suggested on ppc-welt.info forums that maybe the cprog.exe version could make the difference.
Hence what we need is:
English Intellidialer.cab
English WM2003SE cprog.exe
(ans still off course an english Intellipad )

Better Japanese support in Dutch T-Mobile ROM (or English)

When i tried with integrated IE browser to check Japanese sites (with Shift-JIS or UTF-8 ) it fails easy, because the installed fonts doesn't support Japanese fonts.
I have installed MS Gothic, which have Japanese fonts. The speciale smaller 4MB file is succesfully installed, i can now use Japanese fonts.
But there are some problems:
- Fonts that don't use MS Gothic are still visible as blocks.
- Fontlinking doesn't work (from MS site)
I have tested in IE with my selfmade html page to check UTF-8 encoding with MS Gothic and standard font. Only MS Gothic selected font works.
You can see, there is more work and tweaking needed for good result when i check Japanese sites on non-Japanese WM5.
Oh yes, Opera 8.50 don't work very well.
Your help is welcome!
I have T-Mobile MDA Vario here, but this is general problem for all WM5 mobile telephones.
(I'm anime fan, that's why i check many times Japanese sites)
Many links checked but no much effect:
http://www.declan-software.com/japanese_ppc/
http://www.pocketpcjapan.com/faq/po...ial.pipex.com/town/pipexdsl/o/aoou76/CEStuff/
http://ftp.monash.edu.au/pub/nihongo/jpensip.htm
http://portable.syste.ms/ipaq-j.html
http://ftp.monash.edu.au/pub/nihongo/#wince_r
And some special registry tweaking which doesn't help very well:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/d...wce50grfSpecifyingDirectoryForFontLoading.asp
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/d...html/wce50confontregistrysettingsforjapan.asp
There are more information on the site self.
Another links for Japanese support and reading:
http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=1919
http://www.pocketgear.com/software_detail.asp?id=5609
http://www.freelang.net/ectaco/dictionaries/translation-software-for-pocket-pc-japanese.html

Hi!
i made japanese encode and font suport cab, also special ROM with them.\
You can vist my site and relative sites.
http://xdao2.seesaa.net/
http://www.asukal.jp/hv_rom/default.htm
http://asukal.seesaa.net/
http://discussion.brighthand.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=781630#post781630

Nice.
Which should i use for my Dutch version?
Hangul No.5 for WM5 Device?
or
Japanese Support ROM ?
I want keep my T-Mobile ROM.
http://discussion.brighthand.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=781630#post781630 has some tips and guides.
Well, i shall try it.

mrdummy said:
Nice.
Which should i use for my Dutch version?
Hangul No.5 for WM5 Device?
or
Japanese Support ROM ?
I want keep my T-Mobile ROM.
http://discussion.brighthand.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=781630#post781630 has some tips and guides.
Well, i shall try it.
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hi!
Hangle No.5 is not Japanese Support,
Thas is Korean Support.
So i Suggest
if you like CAB install, use Lats Japan No.5 from
http://discussion.brighthand.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=781630#post781630
or if you llike Flash ROM with Japanese
pls try Japanese Support ROM image on your Device.
This ROM made with O2 Exec english ROM, add wince.nls and japanese Fonts.
Good luck!

Have tested the cabs:
Japanese cab (i use korean/chinese/jap cab) works good.
No need to modify registry. The values are already inserted.
The change to Japanese mode is not needed. That is already done.
This in Output.
The characters in Internet Explorer are now visible in Japanese sites.
But the input is not good. (http://asukal.seesaa.net/article/9216384.html)
The Japanese IME boxes are TOO BIG. They're made for VGA mode, but not for smaller QVGA, for my 320240 screen.
Please fix the problem. It's like 2x zoomed keyboard input.
When i have first installed Bagoj's IME, the floated box is seen here.
But the Japanese IME boxes are not seen.
After softreset, the Japanses IME boxes are now working, but too big (VGA mode) and the floated box (which you can select modes) is now gone.
Something is wrong here.
I have already use keyboard switcher, but it doesn't much make effect?
Oh yes, because the calendar is viewed in Japanese chars, i can change it to English words in settings. Now it's good.
The only point are the char '/' which you use for directories. It's now like Yen character.

Looking for T9 input cab (PhonePad)

I do a lot of texting , and the tiny little keyboard just aint as easy to use with my fingers with one hand.
My Artemis didnt have a Keypad , or T-9 input keypad, only had the keyboard, block recognizer, transcriber, & letter recognizer.
My old S200/Jamin had the Keypad dialer , made texting so much easier.
Anyone know where I can located a cab file for T-9 input??
Thanks in advance

Just copy over the cab file in your my documents folder and Launch, you should reboot the Artemis.
This one is international, so with different languages on board.
Greetings

Anyone who have the Norwegian langugae for T9 with PhonePad?

smilys said:
Anyone who have the Norwegian langugae for T9 with PhonePad?
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Hei! Hvis det er det samme som på S100 kan jeg skaffe det, har en liggende å slenge...
In english: If it is the same dll file that was uesed in the Qtek S100 PhonePad, then I can provide it?
mvh
PK

Kjempeflott om jeg få teste om det fungerer på P3300.
Great

OK!
Norwegian DLL ripped from S100...
PK

Anyone who can help me to get the norwegian file into the program?

Hi Guy,
I have downloaded the file .ab and followed the instructions, but I do not find nobody icon in the device. someone can help me? thanks

German language does not work. I can select it, but when writing SMS it recognizes/proposes only English words. Any solution for this?
regards
Zonk76

Try a soft reset after choosing GERMAN language.
After that, my Phonepad writes T9 in german.

paalkr said:
OK!
Norwegian DLL rippet form S100...
PK
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Where do I copy this dll ?? I dont have any map called dictionary.
My P3300 doesnt have transcriber, I only have keyboard. And now I've got phone pad.
How do I install transcriber??

Phone Pad WWE version
I have altered the cab and removed all the languages except for english leading to a smaller install - saving you 0.6 Mb

Does anyone else find that the Phonepad locks up sometimes (possibly due to lack of memory), leading to the inability to change SIPs, and the necessity to perform a soft-reset?

CJBS said:
Does anyone else find that the Phonepad locks up sometimes (possibly due to lack of memory), leading to the inability to change SIPs, and the necessity to perform a soft-reset?
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Not on my wizard or artemis - what device are you referring to?

meschle said:
Not on my wizard or artemis - what device are you referring to?
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I'm referring to my Blue Angel, but it's the Phonepad taken from the O2 Mini (it may not be the version that's been included with this post if it's a newer one for a WM5 device...).
I'm wondering how memory works for SIP input anyway, because sometimes when I have heaps of free memory, and I use PenPower, it won't change to another SIP (eg. Null Keyboard, which doens't use much memory). Is SIP memory specially allocated?

CJBS said:
I'm referring to my Blue Angel, but it's the Phonepad taken from the O2 Mini (it may not be the version that's been included with this post if it's a newer one for a WM5 device...).
I'm wondering how memory works for SIP input anyway, because sometimes when I have heaps of free memory, and I use PenPower, it won't change to another SIP (eg. Null Keyboard, which doens't use much memory). Is SIP memory specially allocated?
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The version posted is 1.0 (Build 22364)
Maybe its your null keyboard thats causing the problems - i recall when i used it - it was a bit glitchy.

It's definitely not the Null Keyboard, which I've never had a problem with, as the problems occurred even before I installed the Null Keyboard.
The version I'm referring to is also 1.0, but build 18526. (I don't know why they don't increase the version number like every other software vendor).
I'll try the version posted, and see whether I continue to experience problems (that is if it works on PPC2003....)

Works on PPC 2003SE
Well.... so far so good. At least it works on PPC2003SE - many things these days seem only to work on WM5! Thanks for making this available.

Wrote too soon! It's already locked up on me. Managed to lock the whole device this time, though, rather than just the SIP. I had to do a soft reset. (I'm wondering whether it's a combination of using PenPower and the PhonePad together).

Anyone know where in the Windows Mobile 5 filestructure T9NorwegianLdb.dll resides?
The Phone Pad - International.CAB.zip seem to work fine on the HTC P-3300.
Just point and hold on the small up arrow on the right side of the keyboard icon when you write an SMS to choose it.
Norwegian is not included in the file posted in this thread however.
I guess we need to install the T9NorwegianLdb.dll for that. Anyone know where to copy it? I am unable to find the phone pad directory in WM5.

Phone pad (Intellipad) and Crossbow?

Hello!
I tried to install htc phone phone pad, all went ok, is functional, but...
the phone pad is very small and it can't be used.
Any solutions?

Umm, with crossbow there is absolutely no reason to use intellipad since the OS itself has smart dialing built-in to the phone application.

it is about writing with your thumb, not with the stylus....

KTamas said:
Umm, with crossbow there is absolutely no reason to use intellipad since the OS itself has smart dialing built-in to the phone application.
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Phonepad is the T9 style SIP, not smartdialling
Here ya go.

thank you AlanJC

@ AlanJC
I'm serching also for phonepad qvga version (for Hima WM5 AKU3.5), could you post it, if you have one working version (or one to try)?
thx

You could try looking on the Himalaya forum, or one of the other QVGA device forums, this is the Universal forum.

I know, I posted just in case you had it ... (same software, only different resolution)

alalala said:
I know, I posted just in case you had it ... (same software, only different resolution)
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here it is QVGA version:

Hi there. Would there be a version of Phonepad T9 for VGA with Dutch included as a language? This one only has English I believe.

Wiz said:
Hi there. Would there be a version of Phonepad T9 for VGA with Dutch included as a language? This one only has English I believe.
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Would appreciate that too...
Eelco

Other languages?
How to integrate other languages than english into the cab? E.g. dutch or german?
I copied the t9germanldb.dll to the windows folder but I can't choose it in the phonepad options.
Is there a german vga phonepad anywhere???

Hi guys, i'm new from this forum, i'm searching a phonepad international VGA version for my eten x500+, it exists?!?!
I need a italian language!!!
Thanks.

Thankyou AlanJC - you do not know how grateful I am for the effort you have put into this SIP

Free Hebrew support for TP2

Did anyone find a Hebrew support package that works on the Touch Pro2?
I tried Eyron, PDAC, Paragon (LEng) and badnimits but non of them seems to work
With all of them I tried the basic support without UI translation but still no luck.

also looking...
for the hebrew support

Same, Need help =D...
Rbroudo and Coneman23.
add me at MSN
[email protected]
let's try and sort things out together...

OK, We have a winner !!! OSM is the man
After HR. I installed:
1) OSM Hebrew package
2) AEKMap for with the updated TP2 Hebrew layout for hardware keyboard support
3) Finger Keyb for Hebrew soft keyboard support
Almost everything is working great & the device response is hardly effected.
Two things I have noticed:
1) Known issue - Opera is showing Hebrew LTR
2) In text messages I receive sometimes digits are displayed in Arabic I guess this is font dependent

didn't get it, if you're looking for FREE hebrew - why check out eyron & pdac!?
anyway, I tried the PDAC with the registry changes I directed you to before at pocketpcfreak - and it WORKS !
second, just TODAY i recieved an email fro EYRON's support saying that you can download a trial version of hebrew FOR TP2 from their site.
wanna try it out ?

Yep why not

Tourist! said:
didn't get it, if you're looking for FREE hebrew - why check out eyron & pdac!?
anyway, I tried the PDAC with the registry changes I directed you to before at pocketpcfreak - and it WORKS !
second, just TODAY i recieved an email fro EYRON's support saying that you can download a trial version of hebrew FOR TP2 from their site.
wanna try it out ?
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For those of us who don't read Hebrew so well, can you repeat the registry changes?
Thanks,
Michi

MichiK said:
For those of us who don't read Hebrew so well, can you repeat the registry changes?
Thanks,
Michi
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yes, but gimme some time, i'll try to post it today.
and yuuvi, let us know how it goes...

Tourist! said:
didn't get it, if you're looking for FREE hebrew - why check out eyron & pdac!?
anyway, I tried the PDAC with the registry changes I directed you to before at pocketpcfreak - and it WORKS !
second, just TODAY i recieved an email fro EYRON's support saying that you can download a trial version of hebrew FOR TP2 from their site.
wanna try it out ?
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Its not so much the "free" as finding a light Hebrew support.
Coming from the TYTN with its challenging memory configuration finding a light Hebrew support made HUGE difference.
Today even though the TP2 has much more memory I don't see a reason waisting it on something as basic as reading and writing in Hebrew.

ok, here we go... i'll try my best:
go to
HKLM/software/Tegic/eT9/XT9suportMSSip and change the value to 0
then, hop over to:
HKLM/system/currentcontrolset/control === here you need to change 2 values:
the first: layouts/e0010409/imefile change the value there to windows/compime.dll
the second: layouts text change the value there to COMP IME
reset and you're ready to go !
all credit to harvey from pocketpcfreak forum
hope all is clear...

I didn't find any TP2 version on Eyron's site.
And TBH, I dont give a **** ^^..
The free hebrew package that is offered above in this thread is way better, doesnt slow down your device, and is compatible with everything
=]

Yuuvi said:
I didn't find any TP2 version on Eyron's site.
And TBH, I dont give a **** ^^..
The free hebrew package that is offered above in this thread is way better, doesnt slow down your device, and is compatible with everything
=]
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OK, here's the link:
www.pocketpc.co.il/license/secure/downloads/2006/MUI_TouchPro2.exe
hey, give a **** or not... you promised to try... ;-)
NOW, about the hebrew above a few questions:
any bugs ? (opera etc.)
any extras ? (hebrew manila ? hebrew contacts scroll bar ?)
what's the difference in memory consumption ?

rbroudo said:
OK, We have a winner !!! OSM is the man
After HR. I installed:
1) OSM Hebrew package
2) AEKMap for with the updated TP2 Hebrew layout for hardware keyboard support
3) Finger Keyb for Hebrew soft keyboard support
Almost everything is working great & the device response is hardly effected.
Two things I have noticed:
1) Known issue - Opera is showing Hebrew LTR
2) In text messages I receive sometimes digits are displayed in Arabic I guess this is font dependent
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Wow. Just installed this on my TP2 and it works great!
Thanks!!!
Michi

Eyron Hebrew for TP2
OK, I installed it, it looked good at first, and is OK in general, BUT:
Caps shift/lock is disabled on hardware keyboard for english typing, and the cursor is a few spaces away from the place that it should be located when typing an email (again in english).
Now for people that don't use english a whole lot, these problems may not matter that much, but for me they do...

sjescott said:
OK, I installed it, it looked good at first, and is OK in general, BUT:
Caps shift/lock is disabled on hardware keyboard for english typing, and the cursor is a few spaces away from the place that it should be located when typing an email (again in english).
Now for people that don't use english a whole lot, these problems may not matter that much, but for me they do...
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THIS IS EYRON RIGHT?
I use English 90% of the time so no good for me

sjescott said:
OK, I installed it, it looked good at first, and is OK in general, BUT:
Caps shift/lock is disabled on hardware keyboard for english typing, and the cursor is a few spaces away from the place that it should be located when typing an email (again in english).
Now for people that don't use english a whole lot, these problems may not matter that much, but for me they do...
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also tried - i can confirm all of the above.
also - if you have the regional settings set to hebrew the eyron will not let any .net cf based apps work ! you must change to english.
btw- p.d.a.c have released a .cab file to fix the "fun" button problem with the hardware keyboard.
in short, seems the free hebrew support is better than the rest but does anyone know of fixes for the mentioned problems ? i.e opera ltr & arabic fonts instead of digits ?

Good for start...
Tourist! said:
didn't get it, if you're looking for FREE hebrew - why check out eyron & pdac!?
anyway, I tried the PDAC with the registry changes I directed you to before at pocketpcfreak - and it WORKS !
second, just TODAY i recieved an email fro EYRON's support saying that you can download a trial version of hebrew FOR TP2 from their site.
wanna try it out ?
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Please, let me get the trial Hebrew support for TP2 and will see how to make it work!
pls, Download it from their site and make a RAR file for me for download at Rapidshare (or other download site...) and i will check it out...
Thanx In Advance!!

Tourist! said:
OK, here's the link:
www.pocketpc.co.il/license/secure/downloads/2006/MUI_TouchPro2.exe
hey, give a **** or not... you promised to try... ;-)
NOW, about the hebrew above a few questions:
any bugs ? (opera etc.)
any extras ? (hebrew manila ? hebrew contacts scroll bar ?)
what's the difference in memory consumption ?
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It is NOT working (the link...) can you upload it by yourself for checking ?
Thanx

EYRON hebrew not good for htc touch pro2
hello members
i tryed to install EYRON heberw from there site, and all i see it green things on my htc pro2. so means its not working. and i buy it from EYRON.
they said they build the hebrew not for my rom only for oldest rom that came from newpan compay bring to israel.
so if you have new rom more then they have u cant install there hebrew.
im waiting for new EYRON version, or like they said install old rom they it will be good wich i will not do things like that.
so every one will think what to do.
your prince here

rbroudo said:
OK, We have a winner !!! OSM is the man
After HR. I installed:
1) OSM Hebrew package
2) AEKMap for with the updated TP2 Hebrew layout for hardware keyboard support
3) Finger Keyb for Hebrew soft keyboard support
Almost everything is working great & the device response is hardly effected.
Two things I have noticed:
1) Known issue - Opera is showing Hebrew LTR
2) In text messages I receive sometimes digits are displayed in Arabic I guess this is font dependent
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Is there anyway of combining the FN key with another key for the AEK language toggle?