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Currently I use a Titan on the Telus network. With their announcement of the Diamond release which I am going to get, I am wondering if, like the Titan custom Roms, will I need to wait for a Telus carrier cab/oem? Or will the the great developers on these forums have enough information from previous Telus cab/oems?
My worry is that GPS will be locked out again. After reading most of the threads in development the common thread between them all is GSM. Will I be able to use current unlockers and such for the CDMA device? Is there hope?
Yes you can!!!
Hey guys. Just wondering some things here, and can't get an answer anywhere. These same questions are posted all over the web, so please lend a helping hand.
So, there is already one CDMA Version of the Diamond released to Telus, and soon to be Verizon and Sprint. Now heres the question. If I were to buy a CDMA Diamond off the web, one that is used on Telus, can it be used for Alltel, Sprint, or Verizon?
If so, would it be possible to make a ROM to go along with these carriers? I see that there is already a Diamond Kitchen available, so what would have to be done to get one of these phones to work on these carriers? Or is it already possible?
Thanks for any help guys.
I think the rom would not help because it is hardware. Not too sure though.
u can unlock it but alot of good that will do since its cmda you have to give sprint/verizon your esn and they will have to allow your phone for use on their network and as far as i know they dont allow unlocked phones even if its the same model as one they carry since the esns have to be sprint esns. if im wrong someone feel free to correct me.
verizon said they will open their network so when that happens yes you can.
the rest no.
and telus has NOT released the diamond as of yet.
telus is launching this little cdma beauty aug 14th. my question is this:WILL THE CURRENT ROMS AVAILABLE WORK ON THIS DEVICE
sprint will let you activate any phone, they just have to load your esn into there system
You can't use a WCDMA Diamond on CDMA networks because of its hardware.
The CDMA version has got a different hardware for make it work on CDMA networks...
I think that actual ROMs for WCDMA Diamond will work on CDMA version... the software part that controls radio hardware is the Radio ROM.
As it seems, as of today, Telus.ca is offering the HTC Touch Diamond on their website as a North American exclusive offer... they are the 1st one in america to offer this phone, is this true?
I ordered mine today, and will receive it in a couple of days, i know telus doesn't use SIM cards, is there a way to unlock it? Elsewhere in the world, when the Diamond isn't a SIM phone, how does it work? Can you still install any program you want, install new roms, or do whatever you want with it?
I am perplex... i wonder if i will have all control on the phone...
Thanks!
That's nothing about unlock. You won't even be able to insert a sim card.
Which means the phone can only be used in Canada, with Telus.
You will be able to do new ROM updates and all the good stuff....
but you cant unlock it because sadly Telus is CDMA
(Thats why i moved to FIDO)
Ok... so basicly, i will be able to do whatever i want with the phone, beside switching carrier is that right? I won't be able to use it elsewhere than Telus because there is no SIM card?
If this is the only thing, and i don't really bother... as long as i am able to do what i want with the phone and applications i want to install.
If I understand all of what I have read, there are no chefs cooking a CDMA ROM as of yet. Just cross your fingers that one of the talented chefs get a CDMA version of the phone so you can get their great work! But of course, you can install all the apps you want on it. It just won't be "tweaked" to its fullest.
We need a Diamond CDMA thread. When Sprint gets the Diamond, there will be loads of CDMA roms.
sprint has Diamond already. And they are CDMA. I wonder if i can unlock a Telus diamon and use it on sprint.
wenlez said:
sprint has Diamond already. And they are CDMA. I wonder if i can unlock a Telus diamon and use it on sprint.
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No, CDMA you cannot unlock, because carrier info chip works different than GSM. You gotto change hardware (I think, chip). GSM is different because of a SIM card.
I've got a Telus Diamond, and I'm starting to work with the kitchen that the guys over at ppcgeeks made. Theres quite a bit about the CDMA Diamond over there too.
Hey guys, I'm new here and I'm just reading about this custom ROM stuff.
Now I don't have a smartphone yet and I have verizion. I'm really considering getting an HTC Touch Diamond for $99.99, but if I got it, could I use any of the awesome ROMs on here?
I was reading something about GSM and CDMA differences and got rather confused.
Thanks guys.
-Beaver_2
Hiya Beaver,
Most the Diamond roms I have seen on here are for the GSM model which is the one useful in many parts of the world (including the U.S. with carriers like AT&T and T-mobile). Verizon and Spring use CDMA which is a different type of radio/signal and is not compatible with GSM. And so GSM and CDMA phones have different types of radios and thus require different software to run them. On some other types of phones such as the AT&T Fuze have both CDMA and GSM counterparts and I have seen software on here for both versions. I'm not sure about the Diamond though.
Maybe helpful,
d.
Hiya Beaver,
Most the Diamond roms I have seen on here are for the GSM model which is the one useful in many parts of the world (including the U.S. with carriers like AT&T and T-mobile). Verizon and Spring use CDMA which is a different type of radio/signal and is not compatible with GSM. And so GSM and CDMA phones have different types of radios and thus require different software to run them. On some other types of phones such as the AT&T Fuze have both CDMA and GSM counterparts and I have seen software on here for both versions. I'm not sure about the Diamond though.
Maybe helpful,
d.
Hiya Beaver,
Here's a link to the forum with stuff for the CDMA version of the Diamond, but it doesn't look like there's much there. The beauty of GSM is that lots of developers around the world contribute to the development of the software since the GSM version of the phone is pretty wide-spread (though ironically I still haven't found a stable version of WM 6.5 that I really like).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=515
cheers,
D.
durkad said:
Hiya Beaver,
Here's a link to the forum with stuff for the CDMA version of the Diamond, but it doesn't look like there's much there. The beauty of GSM is that lots of developers around the world contribute to the development of the software since the GSM version of the phone is pretty wide-spread (though ironically I still haven't found a stable version of WM 6.5 that I really like).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=515
cheers,
D.
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Thanks Durkad, I suppose I'm pretty stuck with verizion. I notice there are some radio threads, they can't help me any can they?
This ROM looks pretty cool but I can't find where to download it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eM_RCaD1Hw
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Thanks Durkad, I suppose I'm pretty stuck with verizion. I notice there are some radio threads, they can't help me any can they?
This ROM looks pretty cool but I can't find where to download it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eM_RCaD1Hw
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I found the website, there is another site that offers quite a bit of option for CDMA ROMS though it still doesn't come very close to what's offer here in the GSM site.
Here's the CDMA diamond site I'm talking about in case anyone here has a cdma dimaond.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/forumdisplay.php?f=66
It has far more option than the CDMA forums here.
As the question states I'm a bit of a newb to the actual developing of programs however why is it that there is an way more GSM roms/kernels/hacks for GSM GN or any phone for that matter?
Is it harder to develop for CDMA? or is it just less popular?
I have a verizon CDMA GN and understand its way new but am wondering if I should not get my hopes up on lots of different roms to choose from?
Coming from my old samsung vibrant its a bit of a change.
Thanks!
because gsm has been out alot longer
-Gsm has been out since november
-Cdma has only been out for a week or less. I believe it dropped last thursday morning.
as droidstyle said, it's basically because of the time.
the GSM version has been out since november, and is useable all over europe, and also in the united states on AT&T and T-Mobile.
the CDMA-LTE version has barely been out for a week, and is only available on verizon and is not useable anywhere else.
so already you have a larger userbase and timespan for the GSM.
but honestly, don't worry about it. all the major roms like cyanogen will come out for both.
Yeah pretty simple answer is GSM has a way larger population of owners, and been out 4 times as long as the CDMA version.
GSM is sold mainly in Europe and can be used on two U.S. carriers, where as the CDMA version is on one single U.S carrier only. And the CDMA phone just came out on Thursday.
Now if we get the other U.S. CDMA carrier to get this phone = Sprint that would help development, plus I believe one of the largest carriers in China is also CDMA ?
Plus I don't believe it would be too hard to port the GSM roms to the Verizon Nexus....Right?