TomTom7 vs Igo 8 - P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development

Hi,
Anyone tested TomTom7 & IGO8 and is TT7 really that better in graphix in comparison with TT6?
Or is IGO8 still the best with the 3D Buildings?
Any comparisons welcome!
Cheers,
Innovator

iGo8
i didn't notice a big difference with TT7's graphics. but to be honestly,
i didn't use it for a long time....
i prefer iGo because
- single maps for each country
- text to speech (it tells you the streetnames)
- better graphics

petervbeck said:
i didn't notice a big difference with TT7's graphics. but to be honestly,
i didn't use it for a long time....
i prefer iGo because
- single maps for each country
- text to speech (it tells you the streetnames)
- better graphics
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But do you think that it will work well with artemis and his 200 MHz processor.
I read that the minimum CPU required was 300MHz.
Cheers

Innovator said:
Hi,
Anyone tested TomTom7 & IGO8 and is TT7 really that better in graphix in comparison with TT6?
Or is IGO8 still the best with the 3D Buildings?
Any comparisons welcome!
Cheers,
Innovator
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TT7 is more accurate when it comes to the speed cameras. But I don’t see an improvement in graphics.

Zecanilis said:
But do you think that it will work well with artemis and his 200 MHz processor.
I read that the minimum CPU required was 300MHz.
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it's running on my father's artemis and two work colleagues are using it also without any problems.

2 questions
Where can you get Igo 8 from??
Also, how do Igo and TT7 compare with Copilot? The good thing about Copilot is the free speed camera updates. I am using CP6 which works fine but isn't very pretty, and am thinking of upgrading to CP7, Igo or TT7 (cab from this site and buy a map)

Same question here, where to get IGO8?
Thx

petervbeck said:
it's running on my father's artemis and two work colleagues are using it also without any problems.
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Well i've tried igo 8 on my artemis and the result was not very nice because if you answer any call or want to use pda for any other reason igo will stop running and blocks pda. Same thing appened with igo 2006, for my sadness i was hopping to keep igo instead of tomtom but for that reason i've changed again to tomtom.

Oh I thought TomTom7's graphics improved dramatically, saw some screens, but I guess this was for the Navcore, not for pda's ?
Other question : where can you get the speedcam and other poi updates for IGO?
For TomTom i used POIEDIT (free updates)
Thanks,
Innovator

Innovator said:
Oh I thought TomTom7's graphics improved dramatically, saw some screens, but I guess this was for the Navcore, not for pda's ?
Other question : where can you get the speedcam and other poi updates for IGO?
For TomTom i used POIEDIT (free updates)
Thanks,
Innovator
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The menu’s in TT7 are better looking and more extended. But the navigation screen looks the same.
Gps connectivity is also better than TT6..

Innovator said:
Oh I thought TomTom7's graphics improved dramatically, saw some screens, but I guess this was for the Navcore, not for pda's ?
Other question : where can you get the speedcam and other poi updates for IGO?
For TomTom i used POIEDIT (free updates)
Thanks,
Innovator
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POIEDIT free updates?
Am I missing something? I've just had a look at the site and it's £20 including a year's updates. Isn't this the same as getting them from tomtom?

Graphics are not that much improved but it has far more functions than
TT6

TT7 versus IGO 8
TT7:
I think nearly nothing has changed. It's a little bit slower than the previous version.
The maps have a few more details.
IGO8:
If you really want to try this navi, you need a lot of free ram!
I have changed to Vanilla 4.02. And since that I have enough ram to
use IGO. Otherwise IGO is rather slow and unstable.
The advanced features (3d-buildings, a.s.o.) are also only available if you have
enough free ram!
The CPU is no problem - it works very smooth with my Artemis!
bye
peter

I think I'll stick to IGO8, best graphics (and it's not slow on my P3300 as some experience).
I used the latest Artemis Touch Lite (without cube) and now the the Oops Black, both fast enough.
For the person that thought poiedit was not free, see :
http://www.poiedit.com/downloads.htm
You can even update poi's through wifi directly from your P3300 (pocketpoi).
Just saw it also works with IGO8, so i'm going to re-install
Cheers,
Innovator
peter_fuchs1 said:
TT7:
I think nearly nothing has changed. It's a little bit slower than the previous version.
The maps have a few more details.
IGO8:
If you really want to try this navi, you need a lot of free ram!
I have changed to Vanilla 4.02. And since that I have enough ram to
use IGO. Otherwise IGO is rather slow and unstable.
The advanced features (3d-buildings, a.s.o.) are also only available if you have
enough free ram!
The CPU is no problem - it works very smooth with my Artemis!
bye
peter
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What is the right version of Tomtom 7 for Artemis:
the VGA one or QVGA one?
(I'm using Meschle Artemis touche 4.02)
Thank you for your reply
Cyril

Skyjouby said:
What is the right version of Tomtom 7 for Artemis:
the VGA one or QVGA one?
(I'm using Meschle Artemis touche 4.02)
Thank you for your reply
Cyril
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So what screen you have? VGA or QVGA? If you're running Meschle Artemis rom, I would say QVGA

I've currently installed TT6, TT7 and Igo8.
IMHO:
TT6:
stability: 10
easy to use: 10
response speed (menù): 8
response speed (navigation): 8
look&feel: 7
TT7:
stability: 10
easy to use: 10
response speed (menù): 8
response speed (navigation): 7
look&feel: 7
Igo8:
stabilty: 5-6 (at least on my artemis ... I think need some extra RAM)
easy to use: 7
response speed (menù): 8
response speed (navigation): 7
look&feel: 9
Bye

crash98 said:
I've currently installed TT6, TT7 and Igo8.
IMHO:
Igo8:
stabilty: 5-6 (at least on my artemis ... I think need some extra RAM)
easy to use: 7
response speed (menù): 8
response speed (navigation): 7
look&feel: 9
Bye
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I'm quite sure you need some extra RAM because here on my artemis iGo8 is as stable as a rock. iGo is known for needing quite a lot of RAM (at least 16mb if I remember correctly)

Bart1981 said:
I'm quite sure you need some extra RAM because here on my artemis iGo8 is as stable as a rock. iGo is known for needing quite a lot of RAM (at least 16mb if I remember correctly)
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I'm running MOSSI meets ANJA31-Diamond Style V1.0 WWE ROM that is very fast and stable.. more I've installed today agenda and some other... after an active sync session (exchange) available Ram drops to about 12 MB and then I can free other 2MB with hibernate... but hardly i can get more than 14-15 Mb. I've tried many roms (officials and cocked) with same results. Maybe unloanding HTC Home should help but for now I'm quite happy with this configuration.
Bye

running Artemis touch 4.02 lite without cube and installed igo8 yesterday.
what an awesome program, running very smooth. much better then tomtom6 or 7
small example, when ur called while in tomtom, u cant switch to speakermode because the callscreen goes away when u pickup. (u have to push the pickup button longer to switch) when u hang up tomtom sometimes wont come back.
With igo8 this problem is fixed. when u pickup u see the callscreen and igo8 still runs in the background giving u directions when u hang up igo comes back.

Related

gps / satnav

hi guys.
can you tell me how big the tomtom program and uk maps are roughly. I need to know what size microSD to buy.
also, is there a free bit of software that I can use to test if my gps is working on my phone.
thanks
matt
sent from artemis
around 2xx ( less than 250mb) for GB plus map
Hi, I have just installed TomTom 6 on my O2 orbit and it took 286Mb on the memory card, It works fine with no problems.
I use a piece of software called visual GPSce
http://www.visualgps.net/VisualGPSce/default.htm
This is a very simple way of seeing if the GPS is working it also shows the speed and other information.
Hope i am not breaking any rules by posting the url
Fred099
O2 Orbit, TOMTOM6 GPS 1GB Microsd
Have you taken a look at IGO2006 or MioMAP v3.2 ?
Tomtom lacks the polished finish that these two (same core app really) have managed to achieve.
IMO
Jez
I agree, I ditched TT in favour of I-Go ... MUCH clearer and more intuitive interface IMHO.

Best GPS navigation software on Trinity?

Hi, All,
Can we share some experiences on the GPS navigation software used on our Trinity? I currently is using TomTom 6 originally came with the phone, but I really don't like it's graphical interface, nor the accuracies of the direction instructions. Sometimes it will tell me to turn right, then make a U-turn down the road in order to do a simple left turn. I the intersection where I'm supposed to make a left turn does allow left turn traffic. Even I updated the map, it is still giving me ambiguous directions.
What's your experience with the GPS navigation software you are using? Does anybody have the guts to claim one is superior to the others and why?
Regards,
Dinky
Navigon MobileNavigator 6 is one of the best, and has a very beautiful and easy to operate interface. You must have 20mb of ram free when you launch it.
See here: Mobile Navigator 6
Hi Dinky,
I have Nav N Go iGO My way 8. I complete change this GPS software over my TomTom. It is very fast software, easy install, intuitive control, skins, 3D landmarks, 3D city maps. I seee flyover very good first time. I have all europ maps in the 2 GB card. Maps have current date feb. 2008.
More info about iGo8 is here :iGO8
+1 iGo 8
Was running iGo 2006 Plus as it had better resolution maps and was smoother than TomTom 6.02.
iGo 8 is even better, but the Trinity doesn't have the grunt to navigate and do text-to-speech directions at the same time.
I thought Nav N Go 8 hadn't been released yet. It certainly doesn't look to have been on their website.
i have tomtom 6.03
works great on WM6.1
Nav N Go 8 is Good & works fine on my Trinity
This is the Link i got it from
iGO8 v8.0.0.31442
oVan said:
Navigon MobileNavigator 6 is one of the best, and has a very beautiful and easy to operate interface. You must have 20mb of ram free when you launch it.
See here: Mobile Navigator 6
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Hi,
was there not a problem with MN6.2 when driving in a tunnel.
I always had the problem that inside the tunnel MN6 said i've been arrived when the gps signal was lost.
Do you have a solution for that?
My favourite is also iGO8! Only disadvantage is that iGO has Teleatlas maps and no Navteq. But this is dipending on the region you live and only some streets are not actual. So it is not a big problem. With Tomtom in the past you have had both possibilities.
sole71
sole71 said:
Hi,
was there not a problem with MN6.2 when driving in a tunnel.
I always had the problem that inside the tunnel MN6 said i've been arrived when the gps signal was lost.
Do you have a solution for that?
sole71
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True... this does not happen with an external receiver, only with the gps receiver from the trinity itself. After a tunnel I just choose "Last destinations" and you're quickly on track again. That's about the only problem I have with this software, the routes are very good and the interface is very clean.
I am using Garmin Mobile XT on my WM6 Trinity.
The maps are City Navigator Europe 2008 NT (Maps dated oct 2007).
The interface is a little awkward, and the 3d view a little sluggish, also the spoken directions are a little too late for my taste. On the other hand I drive fast ;-)
The maps are very good (navteq), you can puzzle your own Europe map and load it on the MiniSD Card.
All in all its not bad, with better maps than Tomtom6
pauleley said:
Nav N Go 8 is Good & works fine on my Trinity
This is the Link i got it from
iGO8 v8.0.0.31442
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How do you get it to work? Do you change the sys.txt?
I get nothing but "out of memory" and "fatal error" once the interface has loaded.
oVan said:
I get nothing but "out of memory" and "fatal error" once the interface has loaded.
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Through schaps advanced config, put the cache file to 2MB
Your location will determine the soft
Use the one with the latest maps
I've try ViaMichelin ( Horrible ), Route66 (average ), Garmin XT ( don't like the view ), TT6 ( Efficient most of time, lot of pois, poor view ), iGO 2006+ ( nice ) and now iGO8 ( Very good )
corfou said:
Through schaps advanced config, put the cache file to 2MB
Your location will determine the soft
Use the one with the latest maps
I've try ViaMichelin ( Horrible ), Route66 (average ), Garmin XT ( don't like the view ), TT6 ( Efficient most of time, lot of pois, poor view ), iGO 2006+ ( nice ) and now iGO8 ( Very good )
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Got it partially working now, the interface is really fast...but oh so complicated. The difference with Navigon is day & night, Navigon worked together with Fraunhofer Institute to make the UI user-friendly and it shows.
Sounds like a lot people prefer iGo8, I'd like to give it a try. I travel a lot in North America including Canada. Does anyone have all iGo8 North America maps in one zip file? Thx.
iGo8 only has euro version
You may find a user feedback for different GPS softs here (in French):
http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=44960
When I start iGO 8 with 25mb free ram, it frequently fails to calculate a route of 130km. It uses a lot of memory... I'll give up now
hi
dont have any gps navigation with map full 3D of iberia? a like iGO8 grafic but I never try it...
regards
I've always used, and never found better GPS software than TT6, untill now! Igo8 is fantastic, a memory hog but works smoothly. Only (Big) problem is I cannot pick up call whilst igo is running. I changed the page mem to 2mb, but either the call is lost or igo crashes.
Any suggestions??
In Australia, I use CoPilot 7, that came with my P3600i.
Doesn't use much memory, and looks great and runs pretty snappy.
In my opinion, TomTom looks horrible - I don't know why it's become so popular.
iGo is alright, but the interface is too cluttered and as some people have said, it is definitely a memory hog.
CoPilot for me so far

IGO 8 on ARTEMIS

Hello
installed IGO 8 on my artemis with meschle rom vanilla 4.02 with cube
runs perfect, for the moment no diverence with speed as tomtom
tomorrow i will give it a special test with monumets , speedcams etc
for my onest opinion layout and design better then tomtom
i noticed for the moment just one minor problem;
Igo 8 gets stuck when s2u2 turns on,i just removed s2u2
are there some other user so i can hear there opinion
greetz Hatchy
Ive installed S2U2 yesterday but haven't run IGO8 yet, so will do it now and post my findings in a bit.
Ok had it running for ten minutes now and has been fine?
i have got S2U2 setup so that it only comes on when the device is in standby and with IGO8 keeping the phone on it doesn't even start S2U2.
IGO 8 vs TomTom Navigator
Yeah,
installed IGO8 too, our 200MHZ TIO OMAP Processor is still fast enough
Maybe in future it will be too slow when 3D graphices are real to life, or like TomTom Navcore 8 (not for pda's). Tomtoms graphics are like a 80's computergame
My father in law still prefers tomtom (very user friendly) even with the 'easy mode' in IGO8.
I still have to test it passing monuments to see the better graphics, but runs smoothly, you can see that they worked on this one.
Any other competitive packages with great graphics ? (tested Destinator & Route 66 already in past). Maybe TomTom Navigator 7 will have better 3D graphics, any news ???
Thanks,
Innovator
using IGO8 from begin of may with full details and works perfect.
I'm not using S2U2
I 'm using iGO8 full with 3d elevations, custom pois etc. Works fine on artemis with Vanilla 4.1 (not touch).
Problems (2) that I mention is:
1. it needs at least 16 MB ram free
2. when I press the call button to make a phone call during navigation, dialpad screen is a mess and no call can be made.
Waiting for a better Greek map because building numbers is totally wrong.
Fantastic piece of software.
navigon 6.5
i also used the igo8. but as i made any turn it ran back in 2d modus. so i went looking for other navi software. tomtom i had for a very long time, but when i wanted to go to croatia for vacantion, i had to switch between 2 maps. western eu and eastern eu. now i use navigon, very convinced that this is really good. had no problems what so ever on the way to and back from croatia. fast and very good working for me.
Tested
Hello
i tested igo almost the whole day
NOproblems
it works great
zero times stuck
i got calls in between no problem
i going to keep it on my artemis , much better grafics then tomtom
one thing, didn't see the 3d buildings yet
greetz Hatchy
HTC P3300 with meschle vanilla 4.02 with cube
Hey i've tested it too ... first I had the "not enough memory" error, now I use filesystem cache 125 kb so it starts at least ...
but if I want to plan a long route the error message of iGO appears: "Not enough Memory, use different parameters"
I've got 27,6 mb free program memory (Meschles Artemis Touch 4.02 Vanilla) ... whats the problem, any of you got an idea???
I think in general Artemis isn't really fitting the performance specifications for iGO 8.
Hello
i tested igo almost the whole day
NOproblems
it works great
zero times stuck
i got calls in between no problem
i going to keep it on my artemis , much better grafics then tomtom
one thing, didn't see the 3d buildings yet
greetz Hatchy
HTC P3300 with meschle vanilla 4.02 with cube
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How do you achieved this? I played around with the memory options for 4 hours -> no success
I don't know
but i closed all programs ( also pocketcm)
i removed everything from tomtom and i set the splash screen on disabled
with me no problems and i just have 19 mb free
Update
I am using igo now and it works perfect
i've got a 4 gb micro sd with full europe for igo 8 and full europe for tomtom
so i can use both now
works like a charm
no problems for me
Hi.
Any way to get a link where to download IGO and test it, please?
Titek: buy it or try it in the shop and then buy?
Bucci said:
Titek: buy it or try it in the shop and then buy?
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That may be a good answer.
Anyway, is there a real difference between Tomtom Navigator and Igo? I got Tomtom on my ARTEMIS and it's quite good but sure, I do not see buildings in 3D.
I have Igo8 on my Artemis (working on Artemis Touch 4.02 Full no cube ROM @ 473 MHz) with full details and some skins and works fine (need at least 16 MB free RAM)
3d buildings
3d maps
realistic textures
full europe maps
Do IGO's maps take a lot of size on Micro SD card's or not? I know that for TOMTOM, maps can be about 100 Mb.
Hi I installed iGO 8 properly. But when it starts I see only blue igo screen and and " INIT API" then the program closes. Does anyone know what should be the problem.
I have Black&Blue 4.1 WWE Rom installed.
Titek said:
Do IGO's maps take a lot of size on Micro SD card's or not? I know that for TOMTOM, maps can be about 100 Mb.
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full TT europe map with POIs about 1,7 GB
full iGO europe map (including buildings, terrain, POIs) about 1,9 GB
cantilever said:
Hi I installed iGO 8 properly. But when it starts I see only blue igo screen and and " INIT API" then the program closes. Does anyone know what should be the problem.
I have Black&Blue 4.1 WWE Rom installed.
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what about free RAM before start IGO - more than 16 MB?
Bought version or Downloaded? so much aspect to solve your bug...
Bucci, thanks for your answers so quick
I will give a try with IGO whenever possible

Manilla2d trinity resources hog?

Hi, everyone on the forum, I was wondering if you were having trouble making manilly2d work smoothly on your trinities. My trinity becomes relatively sluggish and free memory drops pretty soon. When trying to use gps software it locks, freezes etc. Same with Opera browser.
How are your Trinities handling great looking manilla2d?
Use one of the ROMs with Manila2D cooked into. Its far better than installing it afterwards.
chalid said:
Use one of the ROMs with Manila2D cooked into. Its far better than installing it afterwards.
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I Confirm!!!!
I was wondering if we could get Manilla running faster converting Manila2D.exe (1MB) or its dlls into module...
mosec said:
Hi, everyone on the forum, I was wondering if you were having trouble making manilly2d work smoothly on your trinities. My trinity becomes relatively sluggish and free memory drops pretty soon. When trying to use gps software it locks, freezes etc. Same with Opera browser.
How are your Trinities handling great looking manilla2d?
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ROMS with Manila cooked in work only slightly slower, not enough to bother me at all. I think it all depends on what 3rd party software you then install on top.
The trick is either finding a Manila ROM which more or less everything you need it already (like Ervius's ROMS) or naked ROMS which have only the minimum (like Chalid's ROMS).
Also, I recommend using Mpenguin14's "M2DC (Manilla 2D Customizer)" to get rid of the Manila tabs at that the bottom that you don't really need. This reduces memory consumption and therefore improves performance. Some cooks are putting it into their ROMS, but there is a cab you can download too: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=427392
Mattster.
Thanks for all the advice I allready noticed beter performance with album and audio player tab turned off but nevertheless it seems slower.
mosec said:
Thanks for all the advice I allready noticed beter performance with album and audio player tab turned off but nevertheless it seems slower.
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I gave up on manilla and htc home. The clock can be replaced by PDC, weather by spb weather(there's probably a lighter solution though), app launcher by the start menu(people usually don't use a wide variety of apps, start menu can list the latest which will do just fine), sms/mms/calendar/tasks by the respective native plugins.
All the other apps are cute but useless, like, you already have a speed dial on the phone app, as for media just launch the respective apps.
manilla on trinity
Hi, I am happily running chalid's rom with Manilla2d - meaning that it runs correctly but can become quite slow (for example, A2DP skips if i keep wifi or other programs in the background). The problem, in my opinion, is not Manilla but...our trinity. The low amount of RAM makes any program which is consuming memory running slowly and/or lacking responsiveness. Try Igo8, for example, and plan a long route...this is true beyond manilla, and the less memory you have free, the more sluggish it becomes...
I came to the empirical conclusion that TNYYNT Roms are faster simply since he is keeping memory consumption/allocation low, and this is why Chalid's 0.8 is faster than any other manilla2d i've tried. For example, i was not able to run tomtom efficiently on ervius' rom - but it ALMOST works correctly with chalid's (which is based on TNYYNT as you know).
My conclusion: upgrade to touch HD ! it is the obvious way to improve the trinity: better screen, better CPU, better RAM....
lately i been using PDAviet ROM .44 and the manila user interface is relly fast and pleasant to use - the only think that I'm craving for is more RAM in the device
All is well if one application is running but have a few open and the sistem will complain
One thing that I see with this ROM is that if you start a memory intensive application - like opera 9 or your tube or tom tom it will close the ManilaUI temporarly and restart it automatically when you close the application so everything runs fast - but only one thing at the time
pzucchel said:
Chalid's 0.8 is faster than any other manilla2d i've tried. For example, i was not able to run tomtom efficiently on ervius' rom - but it ALMOST works correctly with chalid's (which is based on TNYYNT as you know).
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Hi Pzucchel.
Thanks for your advice the other day on sd cards.
I have a new Kingston 4GB Micro SD (SDHC) Card coming tomorrow and going to reinstall Tomtom 6 onto it. Then I have to pick a ROM! I love the Manila 2D interface, have tried practically all of the current ROMS, but I can't have Tomtom letting me down.
When you say Tomtom ALMOST works on Chalid's, what happened? Did it come out of the program half way through a journey?
And on Ervius' Rom... were you not even able to start Tomtom?
Mattster.
I switched back to a non manilla2d rom and my trinity is flying again! Windows are opening fast and overall performance is better, igo 8 works without crashing. Manilla looks great but I'm gonna hold back for now! Bye all
64M Ram a problem, but here is a work around
pzucchel has raised the main issue- it's not the code, the ROM the M2D or iGO8. Our Trinity is only 64M RAM, and with operating system, if we have 25-27M free RAM we are lucky. Running M2D will normally eat up 10M or so more. With careful memory management it will not slow down our phone. however it will not allow to have M2D as a today plug-in and run iGO8...
Having M2D in the cooked ROM helps a bit as far as speed (not significant) but will not help in memory management. So that was the *****ing part of the post. now let's have a work around. It is not a solution- yet it will allow us to enjoy M2D and iGO8 without getting crazy, and without a need to reset the phone 7 times a day...
1. Install a naked ROM. Look for ones that allow 25M free RAM after installation. There are few of them. If they are naked+M2D and leave 20M free, it is good enough. Having M2D in the ROM means no M2D updates possible. Having M2D installed manually means lots of work and a bit slower performance- each one knows what's best for himself.
2. install SKTOOLS 4.4.1 (Buy it! it worth the investment). Optimize to maximum memory. Our good old trinity works fast enough even with this setup. Also- turn shadow services on to free RAM. Don't mess up with anything else there. We are after more free RAM ONLY !
3. Install mToday. It's a small nifty free tool, that allows the user to switch easy between today plug-ins. Set M2D on one screen, and iGO8 on the 2nd one. Assign a key for mToday so by a push of a button you can switch M2D off and get iGO8 plug in on... For the lazy ones I am attaching it.
4. Make sure the following lines are in your sys.txt in the IGO8 folder. I mean the one in main memory under program files, not the SD folder, although for recovery purposes, make them both identical:
[debug]
cache=2048
reserve_memory=1500000
[navigation]
sim_speed_factor=3
True- it still will not allow using TTS , but that is kind of pushing the limits of the phone. I could use TTS if I turn the phone off, kill 3G and GPRS, push no mail, etc. but after all if I wanted a GPS device only, I could have bought one..
5. For TomTom users- same thing - kill M2D using mToday and keep running it. I did not try TT7 but TT6 was very much an easy run on the trinity, before I moved to iGO8.
Special thanks to the cookers, current and the ones who left this forum, for their dedication, time spent for this community, and insight. I am merely a tester, and I hope this post will make some other trinity users happy campers.
Cheers
BigE
I had no problems running the WWE evirus rom with M2D and Tomtom7
Mattster_spv said:
Hi Pzucchel.
Thanks for your advice the other day on sd cards.
I have a new Kingston 4GB Micro SD (SDHC) Card coming tomorrow and going to reinstall Tomtom 6 onto it. Then I have to pick a ROM! I love the Manila 2D interface, have tried practically all of the current ROMS, but I can't have Tomtom letting me down.
When you say Tomtom ALMOST works on Chalid's, what happened? Did it come out of the program half way through a journey?
And on Ervius' Rom... were you not even able to start Tomtom?
Mattster.
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I have no problem running tomtom7 and igo8 with chalid's 0.8rom.
but before i run igo, i have to close all running apps first.
like bigE mentioned, invest in SKTools. It's a great utility. I have its "free ram" apps as one of my shortcut. i always run it bfore i run any gps apps.
iGO8 and M2D- is it really running together?
rockuman_ex,
Yes, iGO may seem to work with while M2D is on, but, is it really? Here are some observations:
1. Choose to calculate a 1,000 mile away destination when they both are on - even with SKTOOLS I am running out of memory for iGO.
2. Have them both run, and try answering a call at the same time. Even with 1.5M reserved for 'non iGO' use in the sys.txt - most likely phone will freeze.
I have no experience with TT7. I have abandoned TT for iGO because I am travelling to destinations I could not have maps for TT in the TT6 era. I have got spolied by iGO and can't go back to TT, although I have to admit TT is making more sense for the trinity. But like all of us- I want it all...
I regretfully think that in the near future I will go with another HTC phone, waiting for AT&T to offer the HD here in the US. I have spent around $700 for the trini about 18 months ago, no realizing 64M will kill me so quick. Oh well- that is what we call experience, learning from mistakes...
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rockuman_ex,
I regretfully think that in the near future I will go with another HTC phone, waiting for AT&T to offer the HD here in the US. I have spent around $700 for the trini about 18 months ago, no realizing 64M will kill me so quick....
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I'd say these days, 18 months with one phone is pretty good

iGo or Tom Tom?

What GPS software do you use, and why?
why not Sygic Mobile 2009 ? Works good for me.
Well, I've read that iGo and Tom Tom are the best, but here I wanna see which one do people use... Even if it's not on of those two...
I've tried both and use tomtom as it is better at route planning.
Igo looks nicer though.
i'll gonna install IGO to see how its works.
Sygic looks better then TOMTOM, but TOMTOM is more reliable on the arrival time. (excuse me for my poor English)
For me, i think tom tom is beter
im using igo. i dont know, but it seems to me igo's better in australia
I have both
need to know..
The answer is in the following topics, as both are good NAV tools..
1. Are you into 3D, tweaks, setting up or want an installation once and for all?
2. Do you travel a lot, or want it around home in one or two countries?
3. What are you going to run it on? Touch HD?
4. is TTS important or not ? (text to voice)
Here is my experiance with both...
1. iGO is skinnable, and allows many changes by the user. If you are not into it, than TomTom is more likely to be the one for you. Simple, and to the point.
2. If you tarvel to exotic locations you will soon find out TomTom does not cover the globe as good as iGO. If you travel in urban areas in EU or USA, it makes no difference what you choose.
3. iGO is a memory hog. Even with 100MB free RAm you may ancounter 'out of memory' situations with iGO. TomTom is lean on memory.
4. TTS may not work on touch HD if you try the Leo Manila 2.5 as they collide somehow. Not sure why, but I had to disable T3FD on some roms in order to make TTS work.
So, as you see, it depends what are the needs. Personally I like iGO better because it can become a real 3D navigation tool, with terrain , buildings, etc.. and it is beautiful. I did not find any major difference navigating with TomTom and iGO as far as navigation results, as both get to run the same maps from the same houses.. So I vote iGO because I like it, not because it is better. Answer yourself the questions, and you will get an idea. Both are good options, and not the only ones you can have..
i`m 50/50 on this subject because i can use 1000`s of custom generated poi`s in tomtom that i use for work & igo seems to have a limit unless i put them into seperate catagoreies which is time consuming.
Igo coupled with hypergps (TMC) works well for me but have not manged to work out how to get this working on tomtom, (might not be possible.
so if i had to choose it would be tomtom as it`s faster & not as hungry on system stuff.
Igo
I have Igo8 and work perfekt
BigE said:
The answer is in the following topics, as both are good NAV tools..
1. Are you into 3D, tweaks, setting up or want an installation once and for all?
2. Do you travel a lot, or want it around home in one or two countries?
3. What are you going to run it on? Touch HD?
4. is TTS important or not ? (text to voice)
Here is my experiance with both...
1. iGO is skinnable, and allows many changes by the user. If you are not into it, than TomTom is more likely to be the one for you. Simple, and to the point.
2. If you tarvel to exotic locations you will soon find out TomTom does not cover the globe as good as iGO. If you travel in urban areas in EU or USA, it makes no difference what you choose.
3. iGO is a memory hog. Even with 100MB free RAm you may ancounter 'out of memory' situations with iGO. TomTom is lean on memory.
4. TTS may not work on touch HD if you try the Leo Manila 2.5 as they collide somehow. Not sure why, but I had to disable T3FD on some roms in order to make TTS work.
So, as you see, it depends what are the needs. Personally I like iGO better because it can become a real 3D navigation tool, with terrain , buildings, etc.. and it is beautiful. I did not find any major difference navigating with TomTom and iGO as far as navigation results, as both get to run the same maps from the same houses.. So I vote iGO because I like it, not because it is better. Answer yourself the questions, and you will get an idea. Both are good options, and not the only ones you can have..
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Thanks for the info...
Will try both, but I'll hold on iGo...
Best regards
I can recommend copilot 8, this is the market leader for smartphone navigation anyway and so far has chosen better routes than tomtom 7 used to for me and has a better display as well as being much cheaper as the latest version is a third the price of the previous version or tomtom. Works fine on L26 windows 6.5 rom with manilla 2.5 on the HD too.
HTC will be preinstalling copilot on the new HTC Leo (HD2)..
robsno said:
I can recommend copilot 8, this is the market leader for smartphone navigation anyway and so far has chosen better routes than tomtom 7 used to for me and has a better display as well as being much cheaper as the latest version is a third the price of the previous version or tomtom. Works fine on L26 windows 6.5 rom with manilla 2.5 on the HD too.
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Hi,same thing , since i use copilot v8 , tomtom and others are long forgotten ...
I use NDrive, simple, very fast, flexible.
My 4 experiences:
Tomtom:
+: It's the best for routing. Good POIs. I used it in 4 countries in Europe without ANY problem.
-: It's outdated and very simple.
IGO
+ Very beautifull, shows lots of information, skinable.
- Unestable, needs lots of memory, bad routing, bad POIs.
Sigyc Drive
+ Like tomtom but more updated.
- worse routing than Tomtom.
Ndrive
+ Simple and very clear interface on navitation. Moves VERY soft.
- VERY simple. Shows very little information.
(Sorry for my english)
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My 4 experiences:
Tomtom:
+: It's the best for routing. Good POIs. I used it in 4 countries in Europe without ANY problem.
-: It's outdated and very simple.
IGO
+ Very beautifull, shows lots of information, skinable.
- Unestable, needs lots of memory, bad routing, bad POIs.
Sigyc Drive
+ Like tomtom but more updated.
- worse routing than Tomtom.
Ndrive
+ Simple and very clear interface on navitation. Moves VERY soft.
- VERY simple. Shows very little information.
(Sorry for my english)
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Good info... Couldn't agree more.
What about the Copilot 8? I've never used that one.
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My 4 experiences:
IGO
- Unestable, needs lots of memory, bad routing, bad POIs.
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Unstable? in what way? I've never had any issues, even after modding the **** out of it and I aint no real pro dev..
Might I add that iGo8 is extremely customizable, examples > http://artwork-igo8.blogspot.com/
My current skin > http://artwork-igo8.blogspot.com/search/label/Kikker Skin
By far the best navigation software I've ever used! properly because of the open system, lot of internet sources for speedcamera's and POI's and modifications.
Its does use a lot of memory, especially when using NASA demographic files, buildings and so on..
P.S. I do NOT work for iGo
I used tomtom, iGuidance and sometimes Destinator

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