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New Strange Issue With Text Messages

Hi,
It has been ages since I have posted on here, first up I just want to say a massive thanks to the whole community as it is just quite amazing what is achieved here!
Right, on to the problem. I recently preformed the official WM6.5 upgrade, and firstly backed up all my data using SPB backup. After the restore it all seemed great, until I went to the text messages on a contacts page (the touch flow contacts message tab thingy-majiga to be more specific). All my previous messages were in a very strange order, and now if I press on a new message to see it in this tab - I cant read it as it is somewhere miles up the page, and it thinks all the other messages are newer, I have checked my calander and clock etc and it is all fine.
Its rather annoying, even more now the random message cant be sent error that was accuring before the upgrage when i sent messages from this contacts bit.
Apart from that I really like the upgrade, it all seems a lot smoother, Could of done with Sense 2.5, but its much better than nothing!
If anyone has a cure to this problem or has experienced similar please let me know.
Thanks
Oh, and as a PS. I would really prefer not to delete the old messages, there are some important ones in there.

I also had this problem . Everything is out of order and random times and dates are showing up in random places after I did a PIM Backup. Keep in mind this was on a brand new 6.5 device (AT*T TILT 2)
Now my messages load so slow and the entire messaging systme is sluggish beyond usability.

I've got the same problem, did anyone solved this yet? I used SPB backup. The WM6.5 messaging app works fine and places my messages in the correct order, but with Sense it's all random . Also tried Windows My Phone to sync, same result.
Btw, my first post on xda, love this site .

TP2 SMS Messaging Problem ANNOYING

Hey guys,
I've been using this forum for quite a while, and have always been able to find answers for my questions here (which is why I have never posted), until now.
I have a Touch Pro 2 that is T-Mobile branded, but unlocked, and being used on AT&T. I have the phone exactly the way I want it, but I am having a very annoying SMS problem.
When I receive a new message, I open it up and reply, but the original message is never marked as read. A whole conversation can take place, and when I close it, it will say I have a ton of unread messages, even though they were all read. The only way to mark them as read is to either select each individual message with the keyboard, or delete the whole conversation.
Is there any way to fix this so they are automatically marked as read like my Kaiser did? The Kaiser always marked them as read when I closed the conversation or replied. The TP2 won't...
This is very annoying. PLEASE HELP!

Try the file attached, the was a problem that stemmed from the fuze. Good luck

AngelDeath said:
Try the file attached, the was a problem that stemmed from the fuze. Good luck
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Thank you for our reply. I tried as you said, but unfortunately it didn't work... I have searched this, and other forums, and have found people with the same problem, but no solution anywhere as far as I can tell.
Any other ideas are greatly appreciated.
Thanks.

Same problem here, has the app fixed this for anyone?

specsnow said:
Thank you for our reply. I tried as you said, but unfortunately it didn't work... I have searched this, and other forums, and have found people with the same problem, but no solution anywhere as far as I can tell.
Any other ideas are greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
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Try a soft reset. I do know in the fuze this was a problem, I havent had this issue with my TP2 (aka Tilt from ATT running the EU stock rom). But normally if you hit menu then reply, it should automatically check it as read, now sometimes thru the WinMO sms app when your in the conversation has a tendency of kepping the persons sms in bold and when you exit it wont detect it as read, the only solution I found which became a habit was to tap the bold convo which then made it read.
But that cab I attached try a soft reset, it did cure alot of my problems of unread msgs building up.

FIXED: SMS Timestamp Issue

UPDATE: I've found a fix for this issue - AWESOME!
Just go to the Android Market and install the SMS Time Fix app by Matt Precious.
http://www.androlib.com/android.application.com-mattprecious-smsfix-pAFq.aspx
It works perfectly, and updates the time stamp on all messages to relfect PHONE time and not network time. HINT: Make sure the "Last Resort" option is checked in the settings and offset is set to zero. This little app now makes the Evo Messages app usable. Finally...
Hope this is helpful info
So, I've been reading and experiencing several issues with SMS timestamps on the Evo 4G.
It seems there are three distinct issues with SMS timestamps on the the Evo and I believe they all have the same root cause.
Issue 1: When roaming texts are received with the wrong time stamp, offset by several hours (typically 4 or 5 hours off). This causes them to not be threaded in the conversation correctly. Very annoying.
Issue 2: When receiving SMS messages on any network (Sprint or Roaming), the time stamp is off by an hour. The result is the same as Issue 1, but a less extreme example.
Issue 3: When texting back and forth in quick succession, SMS messages are not logged in the order in which they are received, and received text messages ALWAYS appear before sent text messages if they are sent during the same minute, regardless of which one was actually sent first. This is also very annoying.
I believe the root cause is that the native Sense UI messaging app is using the timestamp of the tower of each SMS rather than using the time stored on the phone. To prove this, if you use Handcent and set it to use "phone time" and ignore the tower time, it works perfectly. The thing is that I don't want to use Handcent and I want to use the native app. Is there a setting that can be tweaked to fix this? Has anyone talked to HTC or Sprint about the issue and is a fix in the works?
For such a major problem, I am surprised more people haven't come forward. It's a pretty significant bug...
Thanks,
Matt_TX.
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I agree and its getting really annoying since it causes me to miss texts.

NM, too easy

Has anyone talked to Sprint or HTC about it? I am sure there HAS to be a fix in the works. The good news is that the native Froyo messaging app does not do this (as far as I can tell). I used a Nexus One on T-mobile and it doesn't occur. It appears to be using the phone's timestamp, as it should...
As long as HTC don't apply their "logic" (or lack thereof) over Froyo, it should be fixed soon.
I also can't believe that Sense UI stops the user from having more than one Exchange account. Android 2.1 (Eclair) does this by default. Why on earth would they remove it?
Anyway, back on topic... Please please post with your thoughts and discoveries around the SMS timestamp issue.
Thanks!

How is this related to development?

tkrechel said:
NM, too easy
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I'm not sure what you mean by "NM, too easy". Can you explain or provide any insight. Please help if you can. For those of us with this issue, it's REALLY annoying. I apologize if the question is dumb and there is an easy fix.
I realize that some of you may not feel that it is related to development, but I disagree. For those geniuses out there that make ROM's, maybe there is some way to fix this with a setting or minor change in the Sense UI messaging app...
Additionally, there is no need to berate someone that's genuinely asking for help. It's obvious that this forum gets the most traffic, and it's obvious that the smartest "Evo User" minds are located here. I don't think there is any harm in reaching out for help, isn't that the purpose behind these forums

The samething was happening to me last night.
Sent From My HTC EVO 4G

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Agreed. If its not happening with Handcent nor the AOSP apk, then its a direct HTC issue.
General Discussion. Also, probably not really that urgent.

./agree on all poins with OP.
I posted in Q&A about this same issues, with no replies 8(.
Anyway, I thought it was related to the modified prl that I installed. However it would do it even when I was on the stock prl.
Long story short, I called sprint and said I was having the issue. They said they were going to refresh something on their side, to wait 20 mins then power cycle the phone.
Did that and to my surprise it worked! Then yesterday I re-flashed a custom rom and the sms timestaps went all wonky. /sigh

suck it up and use handcent or chomp, they are overall better apps, just not as nice of a UI.

this has been a problem for quite some time. I've looked everywhere for a solution. This was a problem on winmo phones as well.
I switched to handcent and never looked back. Once you get it all customized, it's awesome.

davebu said:
suck it up and use handcent or chomp, they are overall better apps, just not as nice of a UI.
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look at this guy.
handcent didn't work on my froyo rom, not sure about chomp, didn't try it.
at work i always have this problem, texts are recieved 5 hours into the future, whereas the ones i send are the correct time. occasionally ones they send are the correct time so i have to scroll up and down and it is very annoying.
not a fan of handcents pop up notifications, i guess i could turn em off.
guess i'll just 'suck it up'

regulator207 said:
this has been a problem for quite some time. I've looked everywhere for a solution. This was a problem on winmo phones as well.
I switched to handcent and never looked back. Once you get it all customized, it's awesome.
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yup, had the same problem on my old HTC Diamond with Sense/TF3d on it.

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[Q] Text Message Notification Reply button gone?

Hello Everyone,
I've lurk around the forums often. I just reflashed my HTC Tilt 2 last night with the new At&t ROM. I had the 1.59 version, or something similar to that. I tried searching the forums, but I'm only getting results on how to disable the annoying Message Sent notification.
There are many things I liked from the old ROM, but one thing that is really bugging me is the new texting box and text message notification.
Before I go into detail, On my old ROM I disabled TouchFlo 3d, and on the new ROM I've done the same, I disabled HTC Sense from the today screen.
With the old text notification popup of the sms you could see the message briefly on the bottom and being able to choose to view or dismiss.
With the new reflashed ROM I get the text notification popup of the sms, but there is no option to view or Dismiss, I only get an option to Hide the text.
is this a common problem with the new rom? I haven't seen it in any threads so far, or maybe I'm not looking hard enough.
Any help is appreciated. Thank you

No one else is having this issue with the new ROM?

Epixman said:
No one else is having this issue with the new ROM?
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I 'think' this is a WM6.5 thing, and not a at&t rom issue. The Windows default Today screen has a nice text messages display on the screen. Maybe thats why they felt neccessary to remove the "reply" and "menu" options in the notification pop up?

Epixman said:
Hello Everyone,
I've lurk around the forums often. I just reflashed my HTC Tilt 2 last night with the new At&t ROM. I had the 1.59 version, or something similar to that. I tried searching the forums, but I'm only getting results on how to disable the annoying Message Sent notification.
There are many things I liked from the old ROM, but one thing that is really bugging me is the new texting box and text message notification.
Before I go into detail, On my old ROM I disabled TouchFlo 3d, and on the new ROM I've done the same, I disabled HTC Sense from the today screen.
With the old text notification popup of the sms you could see the message briefly on the bottom and being able to choose to view or dismiss.
With the new reflashed ROM I get the text notification popup of the sms, but there is no option to view or Dismiss, I only get an option to Hide the text.
is this a common problem with the new rom? I haven't seen it in any threads so far, or maybe I'm not looking hard enough.
Any help is appreciated. Thank you
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This is an issue with the new AT&T Rom w/sense. I posted about it in 2-3 threads and have had 2-3 other people confirm that this is happening after the Rom update, so I know it's not a software issue, plus I did a hard reset today and the issue is still there.
I want a fix for this too, but haven't seen anyone come up with one yet.
It sucks to get our messages and only be able to hide them, not hit the "view" button so we can reply right there.

Are you sure that the AT&T ROM did not upgrade you from WM 6.1 to 6.5?

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Are you sure that the AT&T ROM did not upgrade you from WM 6.1 to 6.5?
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i dont recall the menu/reply option being on the pop up after the 6.1-6.5 transition for my T-Mobile,so i second this guy

At&t has had 6.5 on all its roms for this phone, likely cause it was the last US carrier to get this phone. ;D
it's the new rom, cause this was a feature on the original rom released from at&t, I have both saved to jump back and forth when needed.

oh yeah, this issue is listed in the tweaks/issues , etc thread for the new at&t rom too.

I'm having the exact same issue. Can someone point me to that tweaks/issues thread that (hopefully) has the fix?

cjbarth said:
I'm having the exact same issue. Can someone point me to that tweaks/issues thread that (hopefully) has the fix?
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I'm having this same problem were can I find the tweaks/issues thread?

[BUG]Android firing a message to the wrong person!

Have you read this terrible notice from engadget.com?
Android still has horrible text messaging bugs that'll get you fired, busted, or otherwise embarrassed
By Chris Ziegler posted Dec 31st 2010 1:12PM
Pardon us if the headline is a little sensational, but this is one that we've personally experienced -- and it's not pretty. For at least the last couple versions, Android has been plagued with a couple extremely serious bugs in its text messaging subsystem that can ultimately end up causing you to text the wrong contact -- even contacts that you've never texted before. There appear to be a few failure modes; the one we definitely experience on the Gingerbread-powered Nexus S involves being routed to the wrong thread when you tap it either in the Notifications list or the master thread list in the Messaging application, so if you don't notice, you'll end up firing a message to the wrong person.
More seriously, though, there's also an open issue in Android's bug tracking system -- inexplicably marked "medium" priority -- where sent text messages can appear to be in the correct thread and still end up being sent to another contact altogether. In other words, unless you pull up the Message Details screen after the fact, you might not even know the grievous act you've committed until your boss, significant other, or best friend -- make that former best friend -- texts you back. There seem to have been some attempts on Google's part over the year to fix it; we can't confirm that it still happens in 2.3, but for what it's worth, the issue hasn't been marked resolved in Google Code... and it was opened some six months ago.
This is akin to an alarm clock that occasionally won't go off (we've been there) or a car that randomly won't let you turn the steering wheel -- you simply cannot have a phone that you can't trust to communicate with the right people. It's a deal-breaker. We're pretty shocked that these issues weren't tied up and blasted to all affected phones as an over-the-air patch months ago, but whatever the reason, we'd like to see Google, manufacturers, and carriers drop every other Android update they're working on and make sure this is completely resolved immediately.
Want to see this fixed as much as we do? Scroll to the bottom of the Google Code page and hit "Vote for this issue and get email change notifications."
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Contribute yourself to convince GoogleGuys to fix it!

Never had any issue with this...

Maybe, it happens only on the default Google sms app not the HTC one.

I've often sent 2 - 3000 text messeges a month with two diffrent devices over the last 18 months and never had this problem. on the otherhand engadget are known for chatting sensationalist rubbish, only to have to apologise later in an editorial.

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Maybe, it happens only on the default Google sms app not the HTC one.
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I have experienced this with the HTC messaging one. When I individually texted "Happy new year!!" to everyone, the bug happened twice and it actually sent to someone else.

AndroHero said:
I've often sent 2 - 3000 text messeges a month with two diffrent devices over the last 18 months and never had this problem. on the otherhand engadget are known for chatting sensationalist rubbish, only to have to apologise later in an editorial.
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is not sensationalism, is an actual big ugly bug.

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is not sensationalism, is an actual big ugly bug.
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If it's a bug, then why have I not encountered it since owning this phone for 7 months?
It could be a stock Android problem as already mentioned (HTC Sense ROMs have a different messaging application).

I found a post in the discuss thread where a guy explain how to reproduce this *bug*:
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If anyone is interested, evidently "Darth Mo" has been able to replicate it - found in ACentral Forums - entire post follows;
"It's not user error, or at least it's a combination of user technique and a possible design. It has to do with how the stock messaging app interacts with the Android system notification.
I recreated it this way. Open a text, but only from the notification bar. You will be taken directly to the conversation from that contact. Now, just hit the home button to get back to the home screen. Repeat this four times to let the open conversations build up. We'll call the earliest contact 1, the next 2, etc. for this example. Let's say you converse with these contacts over some time so that messages occur in this chronological order (opened from the notification menu if possible) : 1, you, 2, you, 3, you, 4, you, 1, 3, you, 3.
Now, you've read the message from contact 3, but quickly hit the back button because you need to send a message to contact 4. So you're back at the conversation list and select conversation 4. You compose and send your message and off you go. But, what can actually happen is that your message went to contact 1 because there is a bug that when you use the back button, it will take you to the conversation screen and when you select one, it will take you to the conversation with the last "unreplied" message received before the last conversation you didn't reply to, regardless of the one you actually select from the list. It's easy to miss that it took you to the wrong conversation as the on screen info can take a beat to update and it looks like you've select the right conversation. The kicker is the conversation list does highlight the one you meant to select, but will take you to that other conversation. It's as if it's saying, "Hey, I know you want to go to that one, but you opened this message and jumped out of it without replying. Maybe you didn't see it."
It's pretty easy for people to not have seen this for a few reasons:
1. You open messages directly from the messaging app
2. You close out every conversation using the back button and don't let them build up on top of each other
3. Messages can come in such a sequence that the conditions are never correct
4. It has actually happened, only the last "unreplied" message was from the conversation you actually intended to enter
I was able to create reliably using my Google voice number to send myself text and watched it bounce around conversations seemingly randomly. It was only when I looked at the times of each message with no replies that I saw what it was doing actually had order to it.
About 30 minutes of experimentation to figure it out, but I had to know how this was happening as I could see it leading to an egregious error later. Now to explain it to HTC..."
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i've never had this either - i use handcent

Since a few minutes ago, the issue is considered critical instead of of medium:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=9392#c794

Are kiddin me?
I dont send any sms for a while , this is a very big issue !
It never happened to me but , this is a realy really big bug!

Mekrel said:
If it's a bug, then why have I not encountered it since owning this phone for 7 months?
It could be a stock Android problem as already mentioned (HTC Sense ROMs have a different messaging application).
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why havent you encountered it? i have no frikking clue and i dont care.
fortunately now it is a critical bug.
btw, i just care about android stock problems, im not using that sense stuff.

I quite often get messages which are meant for other people from someone who has a samsung galaxy (seems that's it's a copy of the message, rather than it being sent to the wrong sender).
I don't text as much, so less prone to the error.

happened to me on stock Android. Never on HTC Sense or mod

I have actually had this bug... but it reported the message had gone to the wrong person, but the correct person replied so I assumed it was reporting it wrong.... only happened twice.
on stock rom unrooted desire

I'm using a stock ROM & native SMS. I get this bug quite a few times.
I'm working in a very loud environment, so I send & receive lots & lots of text messages.
I notice that when i have lots of threaded messages, the SMS starts to slow down & sooner or later the bug will cause me send a text to the wrong recipient.
I'm quite careful of what I'm sending now.
HTC & they told me to reset the phone.
It hasn't been fun for me since I have to reset the phone once a month because my threaded sms buildup very quickly...
I'll update to 2.29.405.5 to see if this fixes anything.

Guys,
Is the 'wrong' person who receives the message someone in your phonebook or a total stranger. If it'd someone you don't know... how does your phone pick that number up? Randomly?
I had my Desire since April, and never had this issue. I open texts from notification bar and have sent them frequently.

I've had a G1, Magic, Milestone and now a Desire and I've never experienced this at all.

I don't think this bug is very common... I've never experienced it myself and none of my android friends have either...
Just some evil forces trying to make the Android OS look bad. Not our fault they couldn't resist taking a bite of that apple so screw them!

Overblown sensationalism AKA typical journalism. It's a bug but seldom a problem encountered by users, or XDA-Dev would've been flooded with such problem threads long before such publicity sites noticed. Just me personally having switched between over a dozen ROMs/kernels and their versions since March with over 60 average text out per day since and not one occurrence means it isn't anything but rare. I rely on SMS very much daily.
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