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This never happend with me on WM5.
After migrating to WM6 (tried the black 1.2, 2.0 Pro and the LVSW) sometimes after the device powers off, it just does not switch on again!
The power button has no function, I tried with all other buttons (Do not lock keys), the problem occurs with no specific pattern.
Anyne has an idea?
My device is Jasjam, and now I am on the Black 2.0 Pro.
Best regards.
attot1239 said:
This never happend with me on WM5.
After migrating to WM6 (tried the black 1.2, 2.0 Pro and the LVSW) sometimes after the device powers off, it just does not switch on again!
The power button has no function, I tried with all other buttons (Do not lock keys), the problem occurs with no specific pattern.
Anyne has an idea?
My device is Jasjam, and now I am on the Black 2.0 Pro.
Best regards.
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please refer to the General Discussion HERMES forum.
death sleeps have been discussed numerious times and mikechannon has posted ideas to resolve this issue.
it is most likely due to activesync.,
I saw this problem on my old JAMin (WM5 AKU2.0) when setting a PIN or password lock (Start Menu->Settings->Personal->Lock). The workaround for that problem was to set device sleep timeout (Start Menu->Settings->System->Power->Advanced) to the same value as the lock timeout.
Another scenario causing the sleep of death on the JAMin was Chi-Tai's Battery Status Today plugin set to lock at wake-up together with scheduled Spb Backup backups. I've tried Battery Status on my JASJAM and seen that the same problem still occurs on this phone. Damn shame as I love this plugin - very neat solution for automatic key locking.
I had this problem with lsvw, I switched back to black 2.0 and no more problems
Many thanks jasjamming, abubasim, and spiritofseth for your quick response and help.
I will share back my experinse.
Regards.
attot1239 said:
This never happend with me on WM5.
After migrating to WM6 (tried the black 1.2, 2.0 Pro and the LVSW) sometimes after the device powers off, it just does not switch on again!
The power button has no function, I tried with all other buttons (Do not lock keys), the problem occurs with no specific pattern.
Anyne has an idea?
My device is Jasjam, and now I am on the Black 2.0 Pro.
Best regards.
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What apps do you have installed?
Some of the previous issues with this problem were traced to:
1) Today Plugins installed on the SdCard. All Today plugins should be stored in main memory
2) Problems with SdCard like incorrect cache parameters set be various Reg Tweak programs or Errors on the SdCard
3) Others have thought something with ActiveSync trying to run while in suspend mode.
Okay this is driving me nuts. Every time I press the power button whether to turn screen back on or to return the device from standby, it always returns to the today screen instead of the screen in which I turned off the device, I have got security on, but the timeout is 24 hours. My exchange server did set some security policy, but I can't remember if the today screen problem was there before it did this. Is this a WM6 thing, I can't remember it doing it in WM5.
Example, if I'm using memory map while I'm out on my MTB, I'll power down the screen with AEButtonPlus and then use the power button to turn it back on, which used to be ideal, but now the Power button always returns me to the today screen forcing me to use the AEBUttonPlus task manager to switch to memory map again. Not easy with gloves on :-(.
I don't think its AEButtonPlus as I used this under WM5 along with everything else.
Anyone else having this problem?
Sort of solution
After installing Zenyee.com_Stay_Unlock.zip, I was able to uncheck the previously greyed out "Prompt if device unused for" button, this has stopped it returning to the today screen, but obviously my phone is now insecure. So it would seem even if you have a 24hr timeout, the OS still goes back to the today screen, but if you disable the password completely it doesn't. Result - sort of anyway!
Maybe a silly question, but in Settings/Today, Theme tab, have you unchecked the 'Return to Today Screen after....' item?
Yeah - that was the first thing I verified - and it was already unchecked, but it looks like its down to how the password applet works rather than any kind of timeout, you can basically put it in standby and then press power on and it will return to the today screen immediately.
Thanks for the input though
Good luck!
I'm having the same issue here with WindowsMediaPlayer; when i arrive at work and toggle the screen back on (i've mapped the enter-button to screen toggle in WMP), i always have to go into taskmanager to switch back to WMP to turn the darn thing off.... really annoys the heck out of me as well....
I hope someone will find a fix for it. It seems to be a typical WM6 problem, cause this never occured on WM5, and it does occur under every WM6 version i've tried so far...
The Today applet is set to 2 hours to return to todayscreen (and it certainly ain't no 2 hour ride to my work), and security set to prompt for password after 30 mins. (The ride to work is only 15 mins)...
I got the same problem. Would you mind to tell me where can I download Zenyee.com_Stay_Unlock.zip? Thanks.
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I got the same problem. Would you mind to tell me where can I download Zenyee.com_Stay_Unlock.zip? Thanks.
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Took me 2 minutes to find it using google..... why dont u try yourself?
I tried but couldn't find this. Anyway, thanks a lot.
any solution?
Official WM6 also suffers from this 'bug'....seems to be a WM6 'feature'....
Anyone know any registry hacks to fix this ?
My .02.
I recently hard-reset my Schap's 3.57 ROM and have installed minimal software that interact with the Today screen. Before hard-resetting the device, my system would also go to the Today screen whenever my device came out of standby. After the hard-reset, it no longer goes to the Today screen until after the timeout period defined in the Today Settings.
Before Hard-Reset on Today Screen:
Office Communicator
Windows Live Search
Activesync Exchange Server Direct Push
Palm Messaging
After Hard-Reset on Today Screen:
Palm Messaging
No Data Connection or Direct Push
Hope this helps.
Edit:
Also, make sure you remove everything from the Today screen to see if that's the issue. Then, slowly add back items.
Murad
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Running Schap's 3.57 ROM, not the Official HTC WM6 ROM (as in my signature)
Same problem on hx4700
Hello from the hx4700 kozhura ROM forum. Have the same problem with returning to the today screen on my 4700. Love WM6 otherwise, but this is really annoying. Hope someone finds a patch.
Try installing battery status. In the options menu, you can turmn that option "ON" or "OFF"
Bye
s1rl4ncel0t said:
Try installing battery status. In the options menu, you can turmn that option "ON" or "OFF"
Bye
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Thanks but that didn't work. Seems to be ok for WM5, but under WM6, nothing seems to keep it from going straight to the today screen when the power button is pressed or when the screen is toggled.
The return to the today screen after power-on the device is a known problem of Windows Mobile 6 and the password protection system.
If you want that your device doesn't returns to the today screen you should deactivate the password. Try it and tell us
i have the wm6 rom for my hx4700 and i dont have this problem. but also my device isn't password protected. funny though, the today time-out is set to 4 hours and when i turned on my device this morning from last night, it didn't return to the today screen
VivaErBetis said:
The return to the today screen after power-on the device is a known problem of Windows Mobile 6 and the password protection system.
If you want that your device doesn't returns to the today screen you should deactivate the password. Try it and tell us
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Thank you VivaErBetis, yes that did the trick. It works fine without password protection. It's not ideal, but I can put application passwords on my sensitive data like PocketQuicken so this is a good enough workaround until someone comes up with a patch.
Thanks for your help.
Regards.
this problem started suddenly for me when I installed FUI .. the flash user interface that makes your wm6 device like and iphone. To fix it, I had to enable the password first, then disable it. all fixed. thanks guys ... as usual.
Zenyee.com_Stay_Unlock.zip does not fix the issue. This is a password protection bug. Disable password protection and the problem goes away.
Mod, please move my message to Hermes WIN Mob 6 forum
I upgraded to WM 6 with the repackaged version of the ROM WM6 Dopod WWE 3.54.707.3 yesterday and mighty pleased with it, however I have one problem and I do not know if it is ROM related or just some setting I've screwed up in the process of changing a lot of settings.
When I turn off the phone in Comm manager and turn it on later the phone will not find the network and keeps asking for the phone pin. Entering the PIN you can see it searching on the antenna icon at top of the Today screen but then it just pops up the Phone PIN screen repeatedly.
The only way to get the phone back on is a soft reset. Pretty annoying as I turn off the phone regularly each day
Also I do not have the old flight mode/wifi balloon now when tapping on the antenna/wifi icons in main sceen, I assume this has been dropped from WM5?
Any ideas guys?
Al
moving to hermes.
Alabama978 said:
Mod, please move my message to Hermes WIN Mob 6 forum
I upgraded to WM 6 with the repackaged version of the ROM WM6 Dopod WWE 3.54.707.3 yesterday and mighty pleased with it, however I have one problem and I do not know if it is ROM related or just some setting I've screwed up in the process of changing a lot of settings.
When I turn off the phone in Comm manager and turn it on later the phone will not find the network and keeps asking for the phone pin. Entering the PIN you can see it searching on the antenna icon at top of the Today screen but then it just pops up the Phone PIN screen repeatedly.
The only way to get the phone back on is a soft reset. Pretty annoying as I turn off the phone regularly each day
Also I do not have the old flight mode/wifi balloon now when tapping on the antenna/wifi icons in main sceen, I assume this has been dropped from WM5?
Any ideas guys?
Al
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Do a Hard Reset then test the ROM out for a few days. If you are not satisfied with it try one of the cooked WM6 versions (since they are superior).
Thanks
I will play with it as you suggest, also forgot to mention the keyboard no longer illuminates :-(
My radio too is an old version 1.03.03.10. Should I upgrade it first before flasing another ROM ( I have Hard Spl loaded OK)
After adding all my email settings for different accounts and loading apps I don't feel like a change of ROM for a few more days ;-)
Thanks,
Al
i think the problem is with your radio, try any radio at least 1.23 and above
I've been on WM6 since the second day I had my hermes, about 3-4 months ago. I've been on 4 or 5 different trips on planes requiring flight mode. Various LSVW and Sleuth ROMs used with various radios from 1.38 and on...
Not once, despite many layovers, have I had an issue with the phone not coming out of flight mode.
So, in my experiance, no, not a WM6 bug.
Alabama978 said:
Mod, please move my message to Hermes WIN Mob 6 forum
I upgraded to WM 6 with the repackaged version of the ROM WM6 Dopod WWE 3.54.707.3 yesterday and mighty pleased with it, however I have one problem and I do not know if it is ROM related or just some setting I've screwed up in the process of changing a lot of settings.
When I turn off the phone in Comm manager and turn it on later the phone will not find the network and keeps asking for the phone pin. Entering the PIN you can see it searching on the antenna icon at top of the Today screen but then it just pops up the Phone PIN screen repeatedly.
The only way to get the phone back on is a soft reset. Pretty annoying as I turn off the phone regularly each day
Also I do not have the old flight mode/wifi balloon now when tapping on the antenna/wifi icons in main sceen, I assume this has been dropped from WM5?
Any ideas guys?
Al
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I have almost the same problem, but in my case it doesn't ask for PIN code. If I disable PIN request, everything is fine. Try to do the same and see if it's OK. This is the first ROM with this behaviour, but I can live with it in exchange of the amazing speed and phone respondivness !
I haven't seen this problem, but I do see a problem with opening a data connection after being in Flight Mode. It tries to connect to the provider 3-4 times (with quick connects), and then fails with an unable to connect message. At that point, I need to reset in order to connect to data again.
seems to be like the same problem that i am having!! i think its linked to the SOD bug, my herm100 continously reboots the 'radio' part of the phone.. when making a call the phone shows full signal however after placing the call the signal drops before connecting and it searches again for network... im sure that the phone is doing this whilst in standby mode too (maybe linking to the SOD problem) and since you've got you pin request on it seems to be cycling and asking for a pin code!! hope we can find a solution i've tried a few things but nothing seems to cure it!
Did anybody find a solution to this? My TyTn does the same
hi guys,
has anyone experienced a problem where their Trinity will not "wake up" with the short press of the on/off button?
I'm sure I read about this some time ago and am trying to work out if it's hardware or OS related.
I'm running mUn's TE WM6 which I have been for many months now.
The problem has only started in the last 2 weeks or so.
I haven't installed anything new, but have enabled Push Mail for OTA mail.
It's doing it 1 or 2 times a day now and is very frustrating. The only way to wake the phone is soft reset.
When calling the phone from a landline, it does not ring and goes to voicemail.
Any advice or solutions gratefully received.
no one seen this then I guess.
Bummer (for me!)
Try hard reset
sickboy555 said:
hi guys,
has anyone experienced a problem where their Trinity will not "wake up" with the short press of the on/off button?
I'm sure I read about this some time ago and am trying to work out if it's hardware or OS related.
I'm running mUn's TE WM6 which I have been for many months now.
The problem has only started in the last 2 weeks or so.
I haven't installed anything new, but have enabled Push Mail for OTA mail.
It's doing it 1 or 2 times a day now and is very frustrating. The only way to wake the phone is soft reset.
When calling the phone from a landline, it does not ring and goes to voicemail.
Any advice or solutions gratefully received.
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softreset helps, sometimes i have the problem with windows mobile 5 too
jmermel said:
Try hard reset
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thanks John.
But do you have any fact based reason for this suggestion?
I'm happy to give it a go if there's more than 50% chance it will work.
Hard reset
sickboy555 said:
thanks John.
But do you have any fact based reason for this suggestion?
I'm happy to give it a go if there's more than 50% chance it will work.
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You might have loaded a program that is not liked. Use a backup program. If this does not work then load your backup after the hard reset and you will be back to where you started
P3600 with D810 WM6 ROM; also happens occasionally, recovered with soft reset. Seems to happen most often when I press the On/Off button twice too quickly.
thanks guys.
I'm going to try the hard reset route-I'll report back.
Some time ago this happened to me so often, but said it was due to some application, in my case was Slide2Unlock.
Since I removed by their consumption of memory it didn't happened to me.
(Sorry for my english)
Bugger, this has started to happen to me as well. Only 3 times in the last 3 days but if it keeps is up that will be enough for me to do a hard reset (overdue). Strange cause the only new thing I put on in the last week has been PCM 16 which is only a copy/paste exercise.
The fix in the Hermes forum is to force your device to sleep and not let it go into standby.
I have had some problems recently with DeviceLock 1.2 just ceasing to work and have to uninstall/reinstall to make it work again. I set it to turn the screen off when locked, as this does not put the device on standby, maybe there is the same issue with it going into standby by itself.
I have the same problem..i think that it has to do with the phone hanging..most probably due to some background programs eating too much power and memory and the phone just lacks till it hangs..happens when you have other programs that have hanged as well..my problem is with PocketAlarm..it takes so long to load my phone went to standby and the phone couldnt be called back..in brief the phone just hangs because of a program..i don think it has any problem do to with the hardware or strictly the OS..cant really explain..but the role the OS play in this problem is that it allows the program to make full use of the phone till the phone cant cope with it..its the core of the OS so it cant be avoided with any other versions or anything..sorry it seems rather unclear..hope you guys understand..
same problem for me ... from times to times, when a call hang up, i push a lot of times the red button for going back to the today screen and as it shows up, i click immediately on the Power button for turning off the screen. right after when i forgot to do something (approx 1sec) i push the power button and there it doesn't turn on the screen ... strange ...
what i've installed on it :
TomTom 6
BatteryStatus with today plugin ver 1.04.203 beta4 i put tray icons too.
i've bluezard for sniffing and/or hacking bluetooth devices.
OBDgauge too it's a software that works with a bluetooth dongle i plug into the diag port of my car.
and that's all. ah yes one more thing -> i disable the "HTC Home" because i don't like it.
Same problem here...
Still no solution?
I got this problem from some version of rom by Karmba. But V7.2 is OK so far. It seems happened when I close Egress reader by click X button then turn off screen by power switch. It then would not wakeup again. But if I close Egress and check the running programs from Task Manager to make sure the Egress is not running at the background, then I can turn on or off the screen freely.
So I think this wakeup problem is caused by some running program that was not closed properly by X button then crash the WM.
That was just my personal finding. Hope it help you guys a bit.
Hey guys,
Long time member, but first time poster . I got some good news for you iMate users out there. I was able to get the new WM 6.1 ROMs for both the iMate Ultimate 8502 and 9502, though I was told these were still considered beta ROMs. They are for the Australian market I assume as the Telstra logo displays on the boot up.
I've been using it on my 9502 for the past day or two and it seems to have fixed the following issues:
SDHC is supported now
MS Voice Command is working
GPS does not have to be turned on manually anymore
Camera program memory leak seems to be fixed. I will have to do more testing.
Ongoing issues:
Free Program Memory is still 33 MB after a hard reset
The ROM also seems to fix alot of software compatibility issue I was having. Like some of my SPB software that I normally use is now working without any freezes or heavy slowdown. It also seems to run a bit faster, especially when you slide out the keyboard. Anyways, give it a try. Hope this helps.
iMate 8502 : http://www.megaupload.com/?d=NU4R6EWA
iMate 9502 : http://rapidshare.com/files/129807567/Ultimate_9502_V.01.73_NO_CP.rar.html
Great! Thank you!
Nice.
I went to run the update but it requires a "ROM unlock code"
Anyone know what that is?
Thanks
Dave
Re: ROM unlock code
You may find the code printed on the box you have bought the device in or on www.imate.com after you have registered your imate.
milan
Has anyone run this beta as yet ? Keen to see what the opinions are. If WM6.1 doesn't make the device any more stable then ebay here we come which is a real pity I must say.
Just installed and it works better but yet to install my other software. GPS is missing from the wireless manager but I assume that is because GPS is now always active.
Now there is about 50mb free after hard reset. Might be some more once I get rid of the other start up shortcuts.
BTW I have an 8502 and thanks to the OP. Looks like we may be into a winner here, finally............
milanvot said:
You may find the code printed on the box you have bought the device in or on www.imate.com after you have registered your imate.
milan
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There it is!!! Thanks! Sheesh iMate is tough :-\
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Got it up to 6.1 and it is true the GPS is good to go without a turn-on.
However, with this rom I am NOT able to launch iGo 06 or iGo8. Anyone else have this issue and/or a solution? Note: It was working on the old rom.
Thanks
-D
Please help me....
I have i-mate 8502
I did the upgrade BUT before it I lounched Sprite Backup to save all phone data and settings.
After ugrading to WM 6.1 I lounched Sprite Backup again and... now I have only i-mate blue screen (i-mate sign on it) and phone doesn't go any further....
I would flash it again but my pc doesn't see it now at all.
Maybe you know some way to bring my i-mate back to life?
Please help.... Did i brake it?
Not sure why Sprite would cause that for you. I installed Sprite backup NP. I even, backed up, hard reset and restored with Sprite and not even an error.
Still can't get iGo to work though. I doubt anyone here has an 8502 WM6.0 ROM ??? At this point I would rather go back if I can't use iGo :-(
-D
Taking battery out for 3 hours didn't work...
What else can I do?
Help please...
BIG Problem
Hi,
I've run the upgrade program and it worked fine until the first reset... Now I see the message "Please reconnect to PC and run the upgrade again"... I did this 10 times and nothing... I keep getting the "Connect fail" message from the setup file... The problem is that Active Sync dosen't see anymore the phone connected and I don't think it can anymore... that message seem to be from the bootstrap program or something like that...
Please help...
George B
After Flashed with the new ROM, My Device is now stuck in iMate Blue Screen Logo....!!!
But Don't worry Guys...it can be solved with manually hard Reset...
1. Remove battery and reinsert (to make sure the phone is off).
2. Hold down Fn and the Green button (with the phone icon on it) and press the power button.
3. You will see the white hard reset option screen almost immediately. Press the Left Soft Key to hard reset.
Work for me...
Can someone post another link? The original is not working at the moment. Thanks in advance
martin_yo you're my hero.... if you live in poland, i would send you biiiiiig vodka thanx a lot!!! IT'S ALIVE !!!!!!!
imate 8502
OK, I got an XP machine and did the upgrade, went smoothly in about 15 minutes.
Overall I would say it is a worthwhile improvement.
Changes/improvements:-
* PIE scrolling fixed - much smoother, now with zoom
* PIE doesn't freeze any more
* Auto GPS enabling is nice
* Camera seems to start faster
* Threaded SMS is really good (and MMS is integrated now into one account)
* Seems to now stop notifying "SMS Sent"
* Overall perf seems better
* Wireless manager is simpler (I hated the old "solar system" UI)
* Phone settings includes Network Time setting and "battery saver" HSPA setting
* Can change default phone number (w, h, m) from the phone contacts app
Things not fixed:
* Voice call volume appears to be the same
* Select and hold with center button on email attachments still tries to open them (instead of offering to save like every other PPC I have used)
Not tested:
* SDHC support - I don't have a card
Best of all is that it appears to not have introduced any new bugs (fingers crossed).
I am sure I have spoken too soon ...
One thing I did notice was SPB Backup 2.0 stops the phone from rebooting successfully (just stays on Windows Mobile screen forever) if you have scheduled backups on. Seems as if it doesn't like something in the notification queue - so just backup manually. Not sure if scheduled backups on SPB Backup 2.0 worked properly in 6.0?
CrozB said:
Still can't get iGo to work though. I doubt anyone here has an 8502 WM6.0 ROM ??? At this point I would rather go back if I can't use iGo :-(
-D
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did u try GPSgate? some GPS programs need it!
rafaldabrowski said:
martin_yo you're my hero.... if you live in poland, i would send you biiiiiig vodka thanx a lot!!! IT'S ALIVE !!!!!!!
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I'm glad to hear that....unfortunately i live in the galaxy far faraway...
martin_yo said:
After Flashed with the new ROM, My Device is now stuck in iMate Blue Screen Logo....!!!
But Don't worry Guys...it can be solved with manually hard Reset...
1. Remove battery and reinsert (to make sure the phone is off).
2. Hold down Fn and the Green button (with the phone icon on it) and press the power button.
3. You will see the white hard reset option screen almost immediately. Press the Left Soft Key to hard reset.
Work for me...
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I have the same issue with the "Please reconnect to PC and run the upgrade again" message. Unfortunately, the reset doesn't help. As soon as you press the power button that message comes up. I think if we got that message, we've bricked it
mrloopy said:
I have the same issue with the "Please reconnect to PC and run the upgrade again" message. Unfortunately, the reset doesn't help. As soon as you press the power button that message comes up. I think if we got that message, we've bricked it
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You may be right but in the spirit of trying everything you:-
1) PRESS AND HOLD "Fn and Green" buttons
2) WHILE KEEPING THEM PRESSED press and release the reset hole with stylus
3) CONTINUE HOLDING the Fn and Green buttons until the white reset options screen appears
Fingers crossed for you - if this doesn't work then you are right, time to send it back.