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In the end... why to upgrade to WM6?

Excuse me for the (maybe) stupid question but if you have a pretty good WM5 configured Trinity, what would be the real advantages you can have upgrading to WM6? ...i mean... which are the main reasons to do it?
Thanks for the answers and, anyway, VERY THANKS to mUns and LVSW for their ROMs (without them we would have no choice!)...

the real question is : Why Not ??

why not....
why not is a good answer , but only if you upgrade for your own pleasure to do it , and sometimes you discover that could be better wait. but we'll never admit !!!
.....but, in practice , how many time do we spend to repeat so many times the same activities before to be able to profit of our baby?
we are a little bit crazy.....

I really cannot understand the existance of threads like this one! Each one of us can decide if he wants WM6 upgrade or not! I personally use mUm's SE rom (the greek translated version of ausdim. Thanks mUm and Dimitri) and apart from using the ability to have html capable mail client its real fast compared to the official WM5 release. My P3600 is real stable and I enjoy every use of it!

@ katsj
Your answer is the reason for this tread! I'm not taking a position about upgrading or not, I'm only trying to understend if this is usefull to improove Trinity performances... Thanks for the second part of your message...

Yes there are differences between the old and new crossbow os, and many threads and articles covered the cons and pros of both, now personally I love the speed the wm6 provides, icons, and the other new features wm6 offers. finally it is worth it only if you like changes and trying out new things. But if you start finding joy in the upgrade habit, you could never stop.
cheers

THX taiseer

One more thing! I love the sounds of WM6! There is no comparison to the borring WM5 sound files!

katsj said:
One more thing! I love the sounds of WM6! There is no comparison to the borring WM5 sound files!
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Agree with you !!

My WM6:
1. Has BT DUN profile (not in WM5)
2. Has double battery life
3. Has triple available RAM
4. Is 50% faster
5. Has better sound
6. Hassle NEVER locked up
7. Has better Office Mobile
8. Looks better

dada21 said:
My WM6:
1. Has BT DUN profile (not in WM5)
2. Has double battery life
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What are you saying? where do you find this?!?
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3. Has triple available RAM
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What are you saying? where do you find this?!?
dada21 said:
4. Is 50% faster
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What are you saying? where do you find this?!?
dada21 said:
5. Has better sound
6. Hassle NEVER locked up
7. Has better Office Mobile
8. Looks better
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crazy people..................

Crazy? I have 14 years of PDA experience. Used over 100 models. I compared WM5 toWM6 closely and these are my experiences. Your mileage may vary. From your cockamamie response, it likely will.

We r waiting
dada21 said:
Crazy? I have 14 years of PDA experience. Used over 100 models. I compared WM5 toWM6 closely and these are my experiences. Your mileage may vary. From your cockamamie response, it likely will.
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ok, if you r sure about that, please post the benchmark of:
*50% faster
*double battery life
and explain us how wm6 can...triple avalaible RAM ( ROTFL )
We r waiting...
bye

It's becoming a SERIOUS tread! ...waiting for dada reply...!!!

[email protected] said:
ok, if you r sure about that, please post the benchmark of:
*50% faster
*double battery life
and explain us how wm6 can...triple available RAM ( ROTFL )
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It does sound a bit optimistic, I've never seen anyone else make these types of claims, I mean if this were all true there would be an overwhelming outcry to get WM6.

hehe wonder how one benchmark "*double battery life"
maybe a really really long video clip of the phone

...ah...ah...ah...

Rudegar said:
hehe wonder how one benchmark "*double battery life"
maybe a really really long video clip of the phone
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yep, some terabyte of video can solve this doubt...
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anyway we all know how is the battery life with the trinity wm5 equipped, then with this tool http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/benchmark/?it we can make some test and comparison...or not?!?

Innovation
ofdrive said:
Excuse me for the (maybe) stupid question but if you have a pretty good WM5 configured Trinity, what would be the real advantages you can have upgrading to WM6? ...i mean... which are the main reasons to do it?
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A simple reason is that the innovation has stopped when WM6 came available.

Top #1 Reason for Upgrading: If you don't upgrade to WM6 we will all laugh and tease you about your oudated technology... and you won't be invited to the secret xda pool party for WM6 users only.

To Moderators

Can you please make a new thread about HTC Cavalier, where we can address our issues about this model, insted of using HTC Excalibur thread.
Cheers

ibeqa said:
Can you please make a new thread about HTC Cavalier, where we can address our issues about this model, insted of using HTC Excalibur thread.
Cheers
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Ok i will put it to admin and the other mods - was thinking the same thing the other day.

I'll have to second this again. The Cavalier could really use it's own Thread.

We need Cavalier forum please.

Please create the HTC Cavalier/Dopod C730/HTC S630 forum.
Thanks!

OK, I repost the request to other mods.

Support to have a Cavalier forum

Strange, very strange!!!
HTC Cavalier for the moment is the best WM Smartphone money can buy and still there is no separate forum for this device. Even HTC Oxygen (technicly the worst HTC Smartphone) has it's separate forum.
Strange, very strange!!!
Cheers,

Yes why!!!
Apart from the iME problem, it is fast, new tech for the scroll and light sensor..why it is ignored?

...is it really selling well enough to have it's own area? Other than when it was released, you really don't hear that much about it.

chaznet said:
...is it really selling well enough to have it's own area? Other than when it was released, you really don't hear that much about it.
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Try google you will find your answes there. FYI, HOFO has full 41 pages on Cavalier.
Cheers

Right... There was a lot of info just prior to it's release, and then some reviews right after -- but it doesn't seem to have been picked up by a lot of carriers (at least here in the states). Have many of them sold?
Maybe they should create a forum for 'Other' smartphones that never really took off, and you could talk about it there?
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Try google you will find your answes there. FYI, HOFO has full 41 pages on Cavalier.
Cheers
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chaznet said:
Right... There was a lot of info just prior to it's release, and then some reviews right after -- but it doesn't seem to have been picked up by a lot of carriers (at least here in the states). Have many of them sold?
Maybe they should create a forum for 'Other' smartphones that never really took off, and you could talk about it there?
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I know one thing that Cavalier is selling better than Oxygen, StarTrek, Monet and Breeze and finally it has better techical specs than any other smartphone on the market. Why carriers aren't picking it up, I really don't know and don't care as I don't buy phones with contract.
So your idea of "other" forum is good for above named phones but not for Cavalier.
There is another thing, HTC still did not anounce Cavalier for the rest of the world (except Asia), maybe this is why carriers aren't picking it up. If you want to get the device simply order it without a contract (for now). Even if this device goes on sale only on Asian Continet that does not meen that other people wont get it and that "it will not take off".
Cheers

Sounds like you're happy with it, must be a nice device.
ibeqa said:
I know one thing that Cavalier is selling better than Oxygen, StarTrek, Monet and Breeze and finally it has better techical specs than any other smartphone on the market. Why carriers aren't picking it up, I really don't know and don't care as I don't buy phones with contract.
So your idea of "other" forum is good for above named phones but not for Cavalier.
There is another thing, HTC still did not anounce Cavalier for the rest of the world (except Asia), maybe this is why carriers aren't picking it up. If you want to get the device simply order it without a contract (for now). Even if this device goes on sale only on Asian Continet that does not meen that other people wont get it and that "it will not take off".
Cheers
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I just got a Cavalier (Softbank X02HT) - Nice device - It would be nice to have a forum for it to share information about all the ins and outs.

Yes, a forum would be nice!
Thanks.
= P =

ibeqa said:
Try google you will find your answes there. FYI, HOFO has full 41 pages on Cavalier.
Cheers
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Yeah, I have been part of those 40+ pages on HoFo but that really just talks about the phone. I would like to know some new hacks and such.

My thoughts exactly. That is a user forum, not a hacker forum. I have several hacks I would like to post in that forum. For example:
After successfully unlocking the Application / security locks, I have succeeded making cleartype Japanese fonts from Meiryo (MeiryoKe), reducing size of fonts for reading and composing messages, and size of fonts for pop up menus (but not buttons).
I also succeeded to divert have incoming SMS messages get delivered to Pocket Outlook instead of the Softbank Mail application, but still have MMS (S! Mail) functionality handled by that application. (It seems that I can send outgoing SMS by either application)
I also figured out how to remap buttons and found out how to disable the Softbank Mail button on the Joggr (which was pretty annoying because I would accidentally hit it all the time, so I had to disable the entire Joggr).
I'm looking for information about how to enable Internet Connection Sharing - I haven't been able to get this working yet.

There's no forum, so I'll post here . . .
khammo01: have you posted your overall experience with X02HT anywhere yet? I'm using X01HT now -- WM6 in eigo. I'm guessing the X02HT came from Softbank already in English, right? If I switch over to the X02HT, I assume that the level of hacking I will have to do is much less than what I went through to get my X01HT working. The hacks you are mentioning are fairly minor tweaks, so am I correct in my assumption?
Thanks!

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There's no forum, so I'll post here . . .
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Well, it seems that xda-developers are gonna treat Cavalear as HTC does - as a "Bastard".
Pity...

Touch Flo ROM for TyTN

Hey guys
Was just wondering if it was possible to find a Touch Flo ROM for a TyTN?
Saw the new Touch last night, think the interface is very interesting, would like to try it out
Thanks alot for any replies!!!

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Hey guys
Was just wondering if it was possible to find a Touch Flo ROM for a TyTN?
Saw the new Touch last night, think the interface is very interesting, would like to try it out
Thanks alot for any replies!!!
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If you had searched you would have found ...... this quite accessible ... the only ROM that comes with one is .... this ...
But I think you need to do a fair bit more reading and searching before you go ahead and flashing stuff if you think touchflo is a ROM

Hehehe, thanks alot Zocster...Believe it or not, i did actually search and ive been reading alot of posts! Im not 1 of those forum idiots who randomly posts messages without reading anything...
However, i am TOTALLY new to this world! I decided to ditch the trusty old cell phone and move to a pocket pc/pda phone whatever you wanna call it I have decided on a TyTN and am now getting into the world of cooked ROMs and all the stuff you guys know all about
Im learning!!!

randomguy321 said:
Hehehe, thanks alot Zocster...Believe it or not, i did actually search and ive been reading alot of posts! Im not 1 of those forum idiots who randomly posts messages without reading anything...
However, i am TOTALLY new to this world! I decided to ditch the trusty old cell phone and move to a pocket pc/pda phone whatever you wanna call it I have decided on a TyTN and am now getting into the world of cooked ROMs and all the stuff you guys know all about
Im learning!!!
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Awesome, is it definitely an HTC Tytn then? not any other variants? just curious

No no, plain old HTC TyTN im from South Africa, so thats our variant out here

randomguy321 said:
No no, plain old HTC TyTN im from South Africa, so thats our variant out here
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I seeI have an imate jasjam, so yeah you have a front camera I presume you would want to make video calls too then, so may be that ROM i mentioned not for you as it doesn't have video calling dial pad cooked in.

To be brutally honest, Ive had a Sony Ericsson K800i for a year and a half now and have NEVER used the video calling feature Our networks are rather unstable and its expensive, so why bother Im just looking for a fast, reliable ROM

randomguy321 said:
To be brutally honest, Ive had a Sony Ericsson K800i for a year and a half now and have NEVER used the video calling feature Our networks are rather unstable and its expensive, so why bother Im just looking for a fast, reliable ROM
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Let me see then ... you have ten or so ROMs to try out took me two months to go through about 30 from pays, tnt, binky11s, now crc and pdacorner as my favs. You need to know what works for you, make sure you read the wiki, you don't want to kill your new toy ey ...
Welcome by the way .. saw it was your second post oh by the way, go the wallabies, even though i live in new zealand! hehe .. and this is for the trinations!

Much obliged Zocster!!!
Thanks alot for your help...I know that forum noobs are often ignored or flamed lol!!!
The problem i have is being a complete newcomer to this stuff...I honestly dont know where to start, I was hoping there would be a poll with "your favorite ROM" or something, then at least id have somewhere to start

randomguy321 said:
Much obliged Zocster!!!
Thanks alot for your help...I know that forum noobs are often ignored or flamed lol!!!
The problem i have is being a complete newcomer to this stuff...I honestly dont know where to start, I was hoping there would be a poll with "your favorite ROM" or something, then at least id have somewhere to start
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Sorry mate, honestly, ... trying it yourself is the only way you can judge, read the wiki, and try out different roms, as i said what is good for me may not be good for you. So go try them all out and make up your mind from experience. I have had my phone for two months and I have been through honestly about 20 or so roms before i made up my mind, each chefs have got their own style and yeah you need to determine what style suits you.

Thanks alot, will definitely do so
One more question...In my research on the P4350 which uses the 200mhz OMAP cpu, i read that there is an app to overclock (and declock) the device, does the TyTN have a similar app??

randomguy321 said:
Thanks alot, will definitely do so
One more question...In my research on the P4350 which uses the 200mhz OMAP cpu, i read that there is an app to overclock (and declock) the device, does the TyTN have a similar app??
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If you want to keep your device for another couple of years, then no, it is not recommended. it is doable, but it would not be doing your device any favour.

Well since the reviews i read all said the TyTN is powerful enough, im actually more interested in declocking the device when i dont need the power, to save battery life

randomguy321 said:
Well since the reviews i read all said the TyTN is powerful enough, im actually more interested in declocking the device when i dont need the power, to save battery life
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hmm, you need to try the roms available, and once you get applications such as BT GPS, BT Stereo, MP3 etc going, plus the touchflo extension you mentioned, it ain't all that powerful.
These chefs have done their best to make the most out of a device that is 2 years old. so ... yeah it isn't that powerful, but yes you will determine that when you have run a couple of things on the hermes have fun, ...

Starbase has the cab on his 4shared site. I have had it before, but find it useless, the touchflo that schaps has is better for finger scrolling and quick landscape mode switches however.

Good to see more South Africans here. (From South Africa myself). As Zocster said, just try the roms out. Been flashing my TyTN at least once a week. Just remember to Hard-SPL first.

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Just remember to Hard-SPL first.
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Glad someone remembered.....

lol thanks guys!!!
Been reading the guides and the wikis, will definitely hardSPL first

first of all make hardspl ! it is the first thing you need to flash into your tytn....what you meen about -toch flo- ? many component may be instaled on any rom. personaly I use 3ppc.net russian 6.1 rom, whith htc home today plugin (one part of tochflo) included. for finger scroling I use ftochFlo, cube not use at all - personaly I found it useless....(anyway - there are some custom cube on 'hacking and developing' section of developers, as for me it much better than original.)

about overclock. sumsung procesors (which use tytn) is wery bad in frequency control. looks like time generator somehow connected whith main frequency - when you changing it, a lot of bugs appear....for example - if you overclocked cpu, you will notice that music/video/e.t.c. will run more fast that it needed. no need to worry about cpu power consumtion - it low anyway for samsung cpu. much more buttary will eat 3g, wifi, backlight e.t.c.

T-Mo US 6.5 ROM and time

Has anyone else observed with this ROM that the clock seems to be delayed or wrong after charging or a long sleep?
I'm using SPB Mobile and I have "automatically change time zone and clock" enabled under phone options.

6.5 ROM?
alabij said:
Has anyone else observed with this ROM that the clock seems to be delayed or wrong after charging or a long sleep?
I'm using SPB Mobile and I have "automatically change time zone and clock" enabled under phone options.
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I've checked Tmo website and US HTC website too and there is not official new ROM release for US Tmo TP2, where did you get 6.5 ROM for your TP2?
Is it working with US Tmo 3G network?
Thanks in advance for your comments.

nomo said:
I've checked Tmo website and US HTC website too and there is not official new ROM release for US Tmo TP2, where did you get 6.5 ROM for your TP2?
Is it working with US Tmo 3G network?
Thanks in advance for your comments.
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http://www.t-mobile.com/WMupgrade/
It's been out for a few weeks now officially, was leaked a while in advance of that too

nice
sirphunkee said:
http://www.t-mobile.com/WMupgrade/
It's been out for a few weeks now officially, was leaked a while in advance of that too
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I just found a leaked file but it's good to have the official one, thanks a lot.
BTW, what do you think of the 6.5 upgrade? I've read some people complains and some others went back to 6.1

nomo said:
I just found a leaked file but it's good to have the official one, thanks a lot.
BTW, what do you think of the 6.5 upgrade? I've read some people complains and some others went back to 6.1
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Haven't even tried it...yet. Still having too much fun tweaking the hell out of 6.1

nomo said:
I just found a leaked file but it's good to have the official one, thanks a lot.
BTW, what do you think of the 6.5 upgrade? I've read some people complains and some others went back to 6.1
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It's okay. It's a bit slower but not that much. It really depends on what you're doing on it.

I'm one of the ones thinking about going back to 6.1 from the 6.5
It doesn't seem to play nice with some programs I use, and it seems slower. I do like the home page looks a bit more than 6.1, but that isn't enough to keep me using the rom if it keeps crapping up.
There are too many issues I am finding, including the clock issue and lag from larger resources used.

Thanks
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It's okay. It's a bit slower but not that much. It really depends on what you're doing on it.
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Haven't even tried it...yet. Still having too much fun tweaking the hell out of 6.1
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akashastrega said:
I'm one of the ones thinking about going back to 6.1 from the 6.5
It doesn't seem to play nice with some programs I use, and it seems slower. I do like the home page looks a bit more than 6.1, but that isn't enough to keep me using the rom if it keeps crapping up.
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Thanks to all of you for your comments.
"akashastrega" nice picture for Valentines day

akashastrega said:
I'm one of the ones thinking about going back to 6.1 from the 6.5
It doesn't seem to play nice with some programs I use, and it seems slower. I do like the home page looks a bit more than 6.1, but that isn't enough to keep me using the rom if it keeps crapping up.
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Yeah, the home screen is nicer and I like that plugin that detects where you are for the current weather. I've only had one run-in with a program and makes it difficult to run and that's iGO8's TTS. Because 6.5 is a memory hog, I can't seem to get TTS working unless I close manila.exe, restart, and run CleanRAM. Luckily I find the TTS distracting enough that I don't really need it all the time. I've had LOTS of errors installing various programs but everything seems to be working. I had to turn off the error notification in order to just be happy with operations.

I've also noticed that the messaging app keeps popping up ever so often. Anyone else notice this?

I am also having the time sync problem with my tp2.
I am using the official tmo 6.5 os and I am getting tired of this issue.
The reason I got rid of my watch was because I thought I had a dependable clock on my phone.

akashastrega said:
I'm one of the ones thinking about going back to 6.1 from the 6.5
It doesn't seem to play nice with some programs I use, and it seems slower. I do like the home page looks a bit more than 6.1, but that isn't enough to keep me using the rom if it keeps crapping up.
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Yup same issues. BUT after doing alot of tweaks and changing alot of registry entries, I finally like how my phone is working. It is true, it's a memory hog but I got use to it. BTW in the beginning after upgrading to the Tmo 6.5 official rom, I wanted to go back to 6.1 but couldn't. I even talked to the Tmo. support and how I hated the upgrade and made my phone work like crap. She said the only way to go back to 6.1 is to get another phone from them (swap for a new TP2 with 6.1 still). So this is my story about 6.5 upgrade. So if you have 6.5 and want to go back to 6.1 on a Tmo TP2 better do that now before they run out because the Touch HD2 is coming from them.

Here you can download the original 6.1 TMOUS ROM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550975

So . . . . has anyone else experienced this clock time lag.
I have been on 6.5 for about 2 weeks and my clock is regularly 3 minutes behind.
(I have a separte TP2 running sometimes JoshKoss Perfect Black and sometimes NRG roms - that device is never behind)
Any thoughts on why on the stock TMo 6.5? There is a small thread on the TMo forums, but it really didn't shed much light.
H E L P . .

WTF do these dumbass replies not relate to the thread title
just look at the thread title and compare it to these dumb ass, off topic posts...
nomo said:
I've checked Tmo website and US HTC website too and there is not official new ROM release for US Tmo TP2, where did you get 6.5 ROM for your TP2?
Is it working with US Tmo 3G network?
Thanks in advance for your comments.
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I just found a leaked file but it's good to have the official one, thanks a lot.
BTW, what do you think of the 6.5 upgrade? I've read some people complains and some others went back to 6.1
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you sir, are a moron...
sirphunkee said:
Haven't even tried it...yet. Still having too much fun tweaking the hell out of 6.1
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It's okay. It's a bit slower but not that much. It really depends on what you're doing on it.
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akashastrega said:
I'm one of the ones thinking about going back to 6.1 from the 6.5
It doesn't seem to play nice with some programs I use, and it seems slower. I do like the home page looks a bit more than 6.1, but that isn't enough to keep me using the rom if it keeps crapping up.
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nomo said:
Thanks to all of you for your comments.
"akashastrega" nice picture for Valentines day
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thanks for all your comments...??? That's a ****ing laugh...You didn't start the thread you goon, you hijacked it and rendered it rather useless...
if you have nothing beneficial and on topic to add to the original post, don't post anything at all, or start your own thread...

Aunt Flo visiting??
Wow, someone is having a bad day...
...and for the record, the clock issue seems to be in part due to a "coolness" factor...or at least that seems to be what the consensus says.
Also telling someone who may be interested in 6.5 that there are some issues beyond the clock issue, is not hijacking the thread, it is warning them that another thread may be needed to fix something else that has gone wrong.
Finally, several of the 6.5 issues have been addressed in cooked roms, but they themselves are not 100% bug free, and one may be trading a stock rom issue for a cooked rom issue.
When a solution is found, and works 100% I am absolutely certain someone will post about it and will be practically wetting themselves over said fix.
if you have nothing beneficial and on topic to add to the original post, don't post anything at all--da9th_one
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Perhaps you should take your own rather b*tchy advice (as your post also was of no benefit and provided no fix to the OP's querry). You were quite rude in calling a fellow XDA member a MORON. I'll also add that if you have nothing NICE to say, don't say anything at all.

lol...seems i've struck a nerve...lmao...the raw truth often does...

No the truth doesn't hurt, it is your RUDENESS to other members that bothers me.
Whether a thread has or has not veered off topic is not a reason to be a rude asshole to other members...
ESPECIALLY WHEN YOUR VERY OWN POST HAD NOTHING BENEFICIAL TO ADD TO THE OP'S QUERY, THEREFOR WAS JUST AS MUCH A HIJACKING AS THE ONES YOU CLAIMED TO BE.

who said anything about the truth hurting, sweetheart?
i see why you couldnt follow the original thread topic...it's because your context clues, are supbar at best...lol...

Trolls are not welcome
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lol...seems i've struck a nerve...lmao...the raw truth often does...
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Striking a nerve implies creating pain. Strike a nerve is a colloquialism for something with negative connotations, while Strike a chord, has positive ones. As you used the term STRIKE A NERVE in the same sentence alluding to the truth...I answered you with the truth does not hurt. Perhaps you were confused with what implications to use, and you really meant to use the positive terminology of Strike a Chord.
da9th_one who said anything about the truth hurting, sweetheart?
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And DO NOT now or ever refer to me as sweetheart you SEXIST PIG.
da9th_one i see why you couldnt follow the original thread topic...it's because your context clues, are supbar at best...lol...
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Now you not only insult other XDA members, but now attack me for pointing out a very glaringly obvious point to your own post---that you did nothing yourself to answer the OP's posting. Perhaps you have Napoleonic Syndrome and feel it is necessary to attack others to somehow make yourself feel better. We do not need bullies at XDA. Feel free to troll some other website.
If you feel it is truly necessary to continue to attack XDA members and/or flame this thread, go right ahead, as it is now YOU taking it so far off course that I am sure it will soon be closed. I have spoken my mind, and will not engage you further. If you must get the last word in to save your tiny manhhood, then go ahead. If you post again after THIS entry, we shall have our answer about what sort of person you are. That is the RAW TRUTH.

mayday

guys...i'm in a dilemma and thought you could help me...
maybe this isn't the right section to do so but...didn't have the idea where else to post this
should i swap my hero for a touch pro 2
i love senseUI and android as it is beautiful,simple and so on,but lacks some software (which is not too important but...still counts)
i checked prices and tp2 is still more expensive (maybe because of the OS)
i have experience with abut 15 htc wm devices but never got hands on tp2...
so based on hardware vs hardware and your experience...what do you suggest

Hi farkub,
If I´m not mistaken you had an Universal right?
Go for Rhodium with no doubt!
Is the best hardware keyboard device to this date and 2010 models won´t be better.
Hero is ok but Android is too young and immature for now, perhaps in the future...
Just my opinion
Cheers and hope to see you on this section soon

nah i had artemis,himalaya,magician,hd,hero,diamond,hermes,herald,kaiser, and several more..but you probably ran into me in general and hermes section
i saw your poll...and thank you for it...
as for the immaturity i thought so too
but half of it went away when i got hands on hero...and the other half still stays (birth dates tell for themselves)...maybe 2.1 firmware is better but too bad i'll not have it when the htc's 2.1 upgrade comes out hehe
thanks for the opinion orb,much appreciated
as i thought i will go for tp2...at least for fun because it's a thrill to change and trade phones and to discover every of them
as we all know...there will never be a perfect one (the technology goes on and it's not quite good for the market to give the perfect one to the crowds)

hardware to hardware...
TP2 wins .. no brainer!!!!!
In all specs, TP2 is better than Hero!
Software???
I had the HTC Diamond
Windows Mobile sucks!!! It just does not have that many good software out there.. and when you find them.. Prices are higher.
I was waiting for the Diamond 2 to come out.. but got tired of waiting so I tried the Hero...
Wow... I dont see me going back to WM!
Hope that helped!

farukb said:
nah i had artemis,himalaya,magician,hd,hero,diamond,hermes,herald,kaiser, and several more..but you probably ran into me in general and hermes section
i saw your poll...and thank you for it...
as for the immaturity i thought so too
but half of it went away when i got hands on hero...and the other half still stays (birth dates tell for themselves)...maybe 2.1 firmware is better but too bad i'll not have it when the htc's 2.1 upgrade comes out hehe
thanks for the opinion orb,much appreciated
as i thought i will go for tp2...at least for fun because it's a thrill to change and trade phones and to discover every of them
as we all know...there will never be a perfect one (the technology goes on and it's not quite good for the market to give the perfect one to the crowds)
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Wow!
You had a lot of devices, nice!
It´s great to know we will be seeing here!, it´s always nice to see familiar members
More than agree with the last part of your post!
Cheers,

so i swapped them today...let's see how long will this relationship last hehe
as for never coming back to WM....i wish i didn't but my current needs are a bit more pointed towards wm because of some specific software which can help me in my studies...i'm studying mechanical engineering and all that great software really helps out sometimes
i really liked android...and i still do,but this was a clean swap 1 for 1,and this still is a phone with better value...and i'm thinking about selling the tp2 already...it's brand new,no scratch on it....with all goodies...so if anyone wants we can talk...but till then i'm gonna enjoy it while i can
and believe it or not...i'm a windoze hater
but software forces me to use it...both in pc and ppc worlds
(but still i use ubuntu most of the time on my pc hehehe)
thank you dan and orb

TP2 owns every other phone I've had, including the sucky iPh*** 3gs..
Hardware vs hardware, it's the smoothest WM phone I've had, using Valkyrie's rom of course.
Update radio, and mess with the settings a little, and you go yourself a bestfriend.
Imo, I think android's are crappp.

oh yeah which rom do you people suggest
valkyrie seems to be a decent one....probably energy roms are good to but that tone of bluer really irritates me
and for the radio...i put blackstone radio rom to a diamond and the battery life doubled...so is the 1.17.**.** blackstone radio also good for this one or you suggest other maybe
and for messing with stuff...that's what keeps me with WM
i'm a tweak freak

Hi
If you are thinking on sell your TP2 let me know (PM)
As for ROM try Energy phoenix (Sense 2.1) this version:
EnergyROM_28008_RHODIUM_04.Dec.2009_Standard
If you can´t find it let me know and I´ll send it to you
Cheers,

is everything blue? ...hope not...i will pm you...but i have to find a way to get the payment...since accepting payments via paypal doesn't work here in bosnia (or that's at least what one guy told me)....any ideas?

farukb said:
is everything blue? ...hope not...i will pm you...but i have to find a way to get the payment...since accepting payments via paypal doesn't work here in bosnia (or that's at least what one guy told me)....any ideas?
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Do you have a paypal account already?
If so PM me and send me your email account and I can try making a "test deposit" if 1USD to see what happens
I think it should work

orb3000 said:
...Android is too young and immature for now, perhaps in the future...
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i definitely agree with this. I love android but still to young for me. and the TP2 is an awesome phone, best htc i've ever owned and i always wow people when i pull it out. wouldn't have it any other way!
People know the hero, most peeps haven't seen the TP2 and the keyboard and screen blow them away. i've converted 2 crackphone users over to TP2!! {applause}
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rvt1000 said:
i've converted 2 crackphone users over to TP2!! {applause}
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Great for that!!!