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"CLEAN" WM5 ROM?

Hi. Are there actually any ported ROMs for the Uni that allows a super-clean (i.e. purely Microsoft) WM5? Thanks.

This is exactly what i am here at the Forum for please someone step up?
Cause i foudn one in general by name one time but im not sure if they are shapped for the Universal
I guess to clarify ...
A Clean version of WM5 shapped for the Uni if possible
I want to amke sure i do not lose any features
Please help thanks
rightnow im on the newest qtek but is actign weird so im going back to my orignal imate

don't install the extended ROM...

Can you explain SIMPLY which file is the extended ROM?

philby said:
Can you explain SIMPLY which file is the extended ROM?
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What "ady" meant was:
1st: Install Buzz's Ext ROM Unlocker and unlock your Ext ROM.
2nd: Cut and paste them to your SD Card and save a copy on your computer for backup.
3rd: Perform a hard reset. Since you already took off the Ext ROM, you now have a pure Microsoft OS running on your device.
To answer your question, the Ext ROM is what you see being installed when you perform a hard reset. It is indicated by a progress bar during installation after a hard reset. The Ext ROM contains the customizations provided by the "Brand" name of your device.
The simpliest way to avoid the installation of the Ext ROM, if you don't want to unlock it is:
1st: Perform a hard reset.
2nd: "IMMEDIATELY" perform a soft reset by pressing the reset pin as soon as you see the "Microsoft Today Screen". By doing this, the installation of the Ext ROM is by-passed.
If you are going to ask me where to find the Unlocker. Just do a search. Hope this cleared it up.

Thanks for the excellent reply. Can you tell me what exactly would be excluded by not installing the Extended ROM contents? I am guessing this would be like selecting a corporate install on the O2 XDA EXEC?? Thanks again for any reply.

philby said:
Can you tell me what exactly would be excluded by not installing the Extended ROM contents?
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Any customisations your operator has made. It's hard to say what exactly as that changes per ExtROM (and each new version of Windows Mobile by each operator has a new ExtROM so...)
If you don't install the ExtRom you have plain Windows Mobile, if you install the Extended ROM (which it will be default) it adds patches, customisations (backgrounds, sounds, GPRS settings etc), button configurations, home page settings, add icons, remove icons, custom programs etc.
My advise is to read the wiki (link in top left) open up your ExtendedROM as the poster above advised and then customise it how you want, or just by pass it completely each time and add in what you want manually.

philby said:
Thanks for the excellent reply. Can you tell me what exactly would be excluded by not installing the Extended ROM contents? I am guessing this would be like selecting a corporate install on the O2 XDA EXEC?? Thanks again for any reply.
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xanth is absolutely right. The Ext ROM changes with each "Brand". I am attacching a link for the O2 Ext ROM explanation: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=32527
Some applications in the Ext ROM, you can deduce what it is made for like "default_Backgamon etc...(which installs the game backgamon in Imate Ext ROM) and some are similar to O2's, so let it be your guide.

why
you don't want a "clean version" it would not contain any drivers, camera software or bluetooth software that make life easy. your jasjar is not clean by bypassing the ext-rom. to prove this look at your programs the zip program and voicedial do not come with a clean wm5 image.

Re: why
sandrobber said:
you don't want a "clean version" it would not contain any drivers, camera software or bluetooth software that make life easy. your jasjar is not clean by bypassing the ext-rom. to prove this look at your programs the zip program and voicedial do not come with a clean wm5 image.
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Actually ALL WORKS FINE with a clean install, as mentioned above, the only thing you might have to add is the settings for MMS, and video call capabilities. But ALL SOFTWARES INSTALLED WORKS. From BT to WiFi, camera app, voice dial, etc... I know because I already tried it.

Re: why
sandrobber said:
you don't want a "clean version" it would not contain any drivers, camera software or bluetooth software that make life easy. your jasjar is not clean by bypassing the ext-rom. to prove this look at your programs the zip program and voicedial do not come with a clean wm5 image.
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Well that depends on the base Windows Mobile ROM. Some will have some features, while some won't (won't fit possibly?) and would require the ExtROM to install them.
I appreciate this is a Universal thread, but one example is the BlueAngel. The SX66 doesn't come with a camera so it's ROM doesn't contain camera software and if you used that on a regular BlueAngel (XDA IIs for example) you'd need to install the camera software seperately.
Hope this actually makes sense.

what about a real clean ROM...
i mean a ROM that does not contain any of those "dog barking" junks media files and themes (there is around 8MB of these), as well as unnecessary EXTROM files. YET sparing drivers for camera, bluetooth , and other crucial drivers.
thanx

go it
then you are correct to hard reset then soft reset before your device wants to load the ext-rom

unnecessary media files are not in the ext rom
they come with the winows folder and the my doc. they r more than 8mb , and they serving for NOTHING... so stopping the erom wont save you from them

Contacts is shutting down automatically after Spb backup recovery

Hi,
I just flashed my Hermes to the Dopod WM6 ROM and performed an Spb backup recovery. Now my contacts do show up in the phone app, but my contacts app is shutting down immediatly after I start it up!
Anyone a solution?

Same Problem with contacts after SPB Backup!
I get the exact some problem... I don't know how to fix it, I can't even add contacts! I like new friends but not I can't even use my cool phone to get numbers anymore! Can anyone help me?

Solution to this problem!!!
Hey,
I've found a solution. The problem is that WM6 uses a completely different format to store contacts because of the tight messenger integration.
You can do 2 things to get your old contacts from your spb backup on your wm6 device:
1.) If you've got a second wm5 running device, load the spb backup on that device and sent them over to your wm6 running device through bluetooth or IR.
2.) Haven't got a spare wm5 device? Download the wm5 SDK including the wm5 emulator from Microsoft. Install the package on your desktop, reset your computer and run the emulator. You've now got WM5 running on your desktop pc! You can install cabs and also the spb recovery cab works fine. All your contacts will show up in the emulators contacts app. You can now manually copy the contacts to your wm6 phone (lotsa work!!! The way I did it...) or make a wm6 compatible backup on the emulator on your desktop and run it on your wm6 device. Sorry, but I can't advise you about which program you should use for that, but I know they exist!
Good luck!
Rahza

Yeah, SBP doesn't play nice between rom changes...
Another option is this:
Download PIM backup from here. See attached.
Reflash your old rom, use SPB backup to get it back to the way it was.
Install PIM backup to your old rom, and backup.
Flash new rom, reinstall PIM backup, then restore.
Worked for me!

corrupt installations of programs

Hi,
Could anybody provide help for me? My P3300 doesn't seem to be able to install any programs / games anymore?!? What to do, has anybody had the same experience?
Once I install a program from my desktop PC to the P3300 or when I copy the CAB-file straight to the P3300, I get the standard installation screen: "choose a location.....Device, Storage Card or Bluetooth...blablabla"
But when I tap either one, let's say Storage Card, the thing is loading and a 2 seconds later I get the same screen, but with the message: "pocketxpdf.sf.net pocketxpdf cannot be installed. To try installing again to a different location, choose a location: Device, Storagecard or Bluetooth."
How is this possible all of a sudden? Never had problems...there is enough storage space, I've never updated the ROM, just a soft-reset doesn't work either. I don't want to do a hard-reset yet until I know a way to export my Contacts so I don't have to bring them in manually again after a possible hard-reset. (since i cannot install the program EasyHelper anymore...)
Anyone have any clue, what could be wrong?
My Specs:
HTC P3300 UK
Original ROM version
WM5
Installed programs:
Windows Vista Skin
Battery Status
Pocket Mechanic
SBSH Clock
Resco Explorer
PSshutXP
Pocket Painter
Wisbar Advantage 2
TomTom WE full
Games:
Battleship
Chess
Worms
Many thanks if you could help me out!
Greetz
Pallemans

Had you checked the Artemis Wiki pages you could have found a possible answer. There has been an official patch released by HTC for SD cards getting corrupted. http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Artemis_Problems

FIXED!
Sorry mate, but my problem had nothing to do with SD-Card bugs.
I already fixed my problem, see:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=339063
But thanks for your reply.
Greetz

Extended rom

Anyone knows how to save the extended rom files ?
I wanted to hardreset device and skip the HTC custom tools

Diamond have no Extended ROM.
if you want to stop custamizie tool when first boot, do stylus reset or cook rom.

ok and where to find the programs that it installs on first boot
i wanted to install the opera and htc skin, etc, just skip the damn 3d touch flo

Blackfire said:
ok and where to find the programs that it installs on first boot
i wanted to install the opera and htc skin, etc, just skip the damn 3d touch flo
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you can find them in the ROM, you need to extract them.

Hi!
I want get also some files from the rom. How I can access it? It found via Mobile Registry Editor an MSFlash entry with the flag "MountHidden" = 1 but I can't change this value (access denied).
prodigy7

correct me if i'm wrong, there should be something identical to ext-rom in Diamond, if not how can u even do a hard reset? meaning, all the cab files should be stored somewhere.. i've been looking high and low for this storage space but still in vain.. any expert out there who found this additional storage space, dun mind sharing it with us..

nonentity said:
correct me if i'm wrong, there should be something identical to ext-rom in Diamond, if not how can u even do a hard reset? meaning, all the cab files should be stored somewhere.. i've been looking high and low for this storage space but still in vain.. any expert out there who found this additional storage space, dun mind sharing it with us..
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wrong, and wrong.
These devices no longer use ext-roms, when you hard reset the device, it only clears the PIM database and restores defaults. The SPL and the application that hard resets the device knows what to delete and what not to.

haha.. i see.. guess i haven't been updating myself for quite sometime .. thanks for your reply though ..

The .cab files loads from de windows directory, how kan I delete .cab files. The windows directory kan not be saved or delete.
I won't install only the cab file from Opera with a reboot

backup jbed installed apps

I'm in the process of upgrading my dash to the rose based build, but I don't want to lose my jbed installed apps, as one of them is a banking application and it was a pain in the as* to install as the dash isn't supported by the bank and had to trick the deployment server to get the jar and jad files for a supported phone.
So, my question is... is it enough if I take the appdb folder and make a copy?
Once I flash the new rom, copying back that directory will bring back the installed applications?

stickman said:
I'm in the process of upgrading my dash to the rose based build, but I don't want to lose my jbed installed apps, as one of them is a banking application and it was a pain in the as* to install as the dash isn't supported by the bank and had to trick the deployment server to get the jar and jad files for a supported phone.
So, my question is... is it enough if I take the appdb folder and make a copy?
Once I flash the new rom, copying back that directory will bring back the installed applications?
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1st save everything to your storage card.. i'm pretty sure rose rom has esmertec jbed already(which will load your apps)..but if you flash to kavana's new rom you will have to search for esmertec(i had to) but all you have to do is re-install everything and it should work.i could be wrong though just try it out as long as you have a storage card for those apps then it wouldnt be a problem.