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Bluetooth Upgrade and Bluetooth GPS

I don't know if anyone has noticed... but the new ROM version (1.72 + radio 14) has actually improved concerning serial bluetooth connections -- especially on my BT GPS.
Now when I bond with it, it asks me if I want to use the serial profile. I say yes, and it uses COM 5 for my BT GPS. All works fine. No need to use the Blueooth tools software that was needed before.
So this is actually an improvement, but hard to notice unless one tries "the old fashioned way" with BT GPS.
Works like a charm......

I have not tried it with BT GPS, but looking at what everyone else went through with their Headsets and bonding issues, I can defintiely attest to the fact that the new BT Stack on 1.72WWE works great! I have never had to re-pair my Jabra BT 250 since I paired it the first time two weeks ago. I have also been able to ActiveSync over BT without any problems.

Lucky u guys, when i did the update, i cant active sync through BT

first_major:
Try this attached document and see if it helps.

sheran_g,
Thaks alot, all i was missing was to do the active sync profile, your document helped me.
Thaks again

(some) GPS problems with 1.72 (and 1.66)
Victor said:
I don't know if anyone has noticed... but the new ROM version (1.72 + radio 14) has actually improved concerning serial bluetooth connections -- especially on my BT GPS.
Now when I bond with it, it asks me if I want to use the serial profile. I say yes, and it uses COM 5 for my BT GPS. All works fine. No need to use the Blueooth tools software that was needed before.
So this is actually an improvement, but hard to notice unless one tries "the old fashioned way" with BT GPS.
Works like a charm......
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I have noticed the added WM function for BT GPS on COM5 (already with 1.66), however 'since' 1.66 I can not get my BT GPS to work with Alturion.
The strange things are:
- At first it still worked with 1.66 but a week after it failed and Alturion and I can not get it working since (incl. 1.72 upgrade).
- if I start Alturion the blue GPS LED starts flashing fast (green LED indicates satelite lock) which suggests BT connection, but still it says "NO GPS FOUND" all the time!
- With TT3 the GPS is working ok (with BT and serial profiles)
I dare not to hope, but if anybody has an idea please let me know. I prefer not to downgrade to 1.60 since I see many issues with this downgrade on this forum.
Victor said:
..... I say yes .....
.... unless one tries "the old fashioned way" with BT GPS.
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I can not remember that NO was an option. Do you mean this with the old fashion way???
Ronald

Hi guys
I'm guessing that the 1.7 upgrade is not avalable in Australia??? I cannot find it on the MyXDA website for download? is this update that you are talking about not for Australia/Asia?
Cheers...

sheran_g said:
first_major:
Try this attached document and see if it helps.
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dude the filedoesnt work, can u upload it again?
Smiley

smiley_thing69 said:
sheran_g said:
first_major:
Try this attached document and see if it helps.
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dude the filedoesnt work, can u upload it again?
Smiley
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You might need to download Adobe Acrobat Reader in order to view the file. You can find the Acrobat Reader here.

dont try dow view the file in IE
Download it first and THEN view it
This works for me

smiley_thing69 said:
sheran_g said:
first_major:
Try this attached document and see if it helps.
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dude the filedoesnt work, can u upload it again?
Smiley
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With gozilla I can also not download the pdf, but with "save target as" it works.
@sheran_g
BTW Thanx for the post

Re: (some) GPS problems with 1.72 (and 1.66)
ronald2oo2 said:
I have noticed the added WM function for BT GPS on COM5 (already with 1.66), however 'since' 1.66 I can not get my BT GPS to work with Alturion.
The strange things are:
- At first it still worked with 1.66 but a week after it failed and Alturion and I can not get it working since (incl. 1.72 upgrade).
- if I start Alturion the blue GPS LED starts flashing fast (green LED indicates satelite lock) which suggests BT connection, but still it says "NO GPS FOUND" all the time!
- With TT3 the GPS is working ok (with BT and serial profiles)
I dare not to hope, but if anybody has an idea please let me know. I prefer not to downgrade to 1.60 since I see many issues with this downgrade on this forum.
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Are you sure this isn't TomTom's GPS Driver causing this? TT's GPS Drivers since v2.08 have locked the BT Com Port for exclusive access by TomTom and this prevents other apps from accessing a BT GPS. Solutions are either install v2.07 which was the last driver that did not do this or remove 'the Tomtom~GPS' entry which is the culprit, removing this removes the BT Com Port lock but does not affect the use of TomTom.

@ griffog
Actually I use TomTom ~GPS 3.03 which does not have this problem anymore! Anyhow I still (temporarely) remove the TomTom ~GPS driver and soft-reset when I test with Alturion.
But thanx for the tip.
BTW it does effect the use of TomTom for me! I guess you have a serial (non BT) GPS !?
Ronald

No I use BT GPS unit's exclusively. I'll have to investigate this as I have not heard that v3.03 no longer has this problem!

@griffog
I have this information from the Dutch PocketPC-club TT forum.
It is also consistent with what I see since the TT3.03 upgrade, even while my other GPS application (Alturion) is not working. If I run TT GPS and close it and then start Alturion the Blue LED of the GPS starts flashing fast (sadly I still get "no GPS found" however).
Ronald
:wink: remember you heard it first from me, the Premier GPS Resource :wink:

Excellent news! I've just loaded it up to test and you were right It's such good news that I've posted a front page news item, thanks

Indeed it was very good news.... but therefor also more disappointing for me that I don't get Alturion -my second GPS application- to work (on the eve of my holidays).
If you also use Alturion 5.3.1.4 (you seem in to GPS), can you share your configuration with me?
OS (1.66+?)?, BTHTools or WM serial BT profile? GPS? GPS config in Alturion? and anything else you might consider important.
I really need some new straws to grasp because I have no more ideas about what to try.
Ronald

Sadly Alturion hasn't made it across the channel. I'ce contacted them on numerous occasions for a review copy but never received a reply.

Another cool fix is the fact that you can now be connected through Activesinc using the cradle and at the same time now you can receive MMSs without a problem.
Before the 1.72 upgrade, you just couln't do that. :wink:

Navigon with Artemis

Has anyone tried Navigon MN5 with Artemis yet?..........
Thanks
Rafiki

I did.. Navigon works fine, but is really slow on my Artemis. TomTom is much faster. I tried Navigon because of the TMC support, but i can't get TMC to work on my device. I'm going to try iGo 2006 as well, but for now TomTom does the job very well.

Now I'm using iGo 2006. I can recommend this piece of software to everyone, it's much faster than both TomTom and Navigon. The looks are incredible.

My tomtom takes ages to find the sats when you first boot it up. Is this normal??

tmaxx said:
My tomtom takes ages to find the sats when you first boot it up. Is this normal??
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Try to find the upgrade to v6.02 as this has the option for "Built In GPS" and it'll then use the Quick GPS data. Cold start is now 10 seconds for me with warm start being about 3 second!

Navigon 6
Navigon 6 works fine, but it is really slow on Artemis, is there anyone knows how to turn the first warning off in the begining of screen ?

Does iGo support QuickGPS so that it can lock on fast?

A cool nav program is Route 66. Works fine and gets a fix in approx.10 sec. Uses same maps as Navigon btw!
TomTom is a joke if you live in Eastern Europe. Either no maps at all or very poor with only very major roads.

I only work with DestinAtor on my Artemis. Version 6.0.0.
Very fast fixes (approx 6-9 seconds) and response from map is better then TommyTommy, according to a friend of mine. He switch over to DestinAtor aswell.

TomTom GPS Settings...?
low405 said:
Try to find the upgrade to v6.02 as this has the option for "Built In GPS" and it'll then use the Quick GPS data. Cold start is now 10 seconds for me with warm start being about 3 second!
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Guys can someone tell me what settings they have on their Artemis' GPS Settings and on their TomTom 6.200?
On my Artemis' GPS settings, I have it set to:
GPS Programs Port: COM4
GPS Hardware Port: COM2
Baud Rate: 4800
Manage GPS automatically set to: ON
And on the TomTom settings I configured it to use the Other NMEA GPS Receiver, set the baud rate to 4800 and then when it asks "GPS is connected to:" I just select COM4 which is the first option.
Now this works for me pretty well but the weird thing is my HTC P3600 seems to be a lot quicker at getting a fix and it has connections with more sattelites and a better signal than the Artemis!
As far as I know, the artemis is suppose to be much better when it comes to GPS because it has the latest Sirf 3 GPS receiver and from what I read somewhere, the P3600 has another GPS chip not as good as the Sirf 3.
Would be good to know what settings everyone else is using. By the way TomTom only seems to detect the GPS when the GPS Programs Port is set to COM4 on the Artemis' GPS settings. Setting this to anything else doesnt work.
Thanks in advance.
D.C

Hello, I put the Navigon 6,2 software on my P3300 today. Awesome stuff. The update 6,2 has improved the Speed alot.
The only thing that i need help with is the TMC service.
how can i get that up and running?
Thanks
Tim

Hi,
I'm currently running navigon 6.1.5 on my P3300 with WM6 (NewArtemis2). Every now and then I'm getting the message that my memory is full. At that moment I can choose to end different programs. Normally or MN6 or phone. Because I'm using navigation I choose telephone. Then after a few minutes I'm getting a network faillure and MN6 ends.
Is this a known problem and if it is, is there a sollution for it?
Thanks for your help.
Paul

Bringing up an old topic again.
I tried to install Navigon MN6.2 on my artemis. Everything goes well, except for the images on the screen, it's far from smooth.
How did other people manage to run MN6.2 to run smoothly on there Artemis?

Intern GPS works only with TomTom Navigator

Hi,
please can someone tell me, why the inter gps only works with TomTom
on my XDA ORBIT?
I tried MioMap from a friend, but it tells me: No GPS was found.
Same problem with other software like gpstuner / smirftech and so on.
What can i do?
Is there a trick?
Are there tools to tweak the gps ?
Please give me an tip.
Big THanks
Bye

On my MDAC3 it works fine with both Tom Tom and Memory Map and it also worked with Pocket Earth.
Regards

TomTom is not the only software that works with the internal GPS - I tried several that worked (for example, ESRI ArcPAD 7.01 and MagicMaps2GO 2).
But you are right, GPSTuner doesn't work - it locks up my device while trying to find the GPS. There is a workaround described in the GPSTuner-Forum: You have to install GPSGate (software that works as an intermediary between the GPS and any other software) (http://gpstuner.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1044).
But contrary to what the developers of GPSTuner think (namely, that TomTom locks out every other software from using the internal GPS), I don't think that's right because at least to different applications from different vendors work. There has to be something else...

Ah, big thanks!
Please tell me your config for GPS.
Why you can find the gps intern for MioMap!
I have got the same hardware like you!!
Please
Big big thanks

works ok with igo2006 and papago7 also
the problem is with destinator6 last version 6.1.1.4000
and we waiting for a bugfix from destinator tech.
a trick that can fix this prob is if you put the version with tmc and have always the tmc on,with this the com port stays open
config
com4 baud 115200
tmc on com4 9600
thiw trick was find from user Minotavrs
*sorry for bad english

Please help, i dont understand it???
What can i do for MioMap?
It doesen´t find the gps hardware.

djsven said:
Please help, i dont understand it???
What can i do for MioMap?
It doesen´t find the gps hardware.
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i explain what i do for destinator 6 last version
i do not know miomap
but my config on alla programs is com4 nmea baud 4800
did you try that?

Ah ok!
You set in windows mobil5 gps Port Com4 an Baut 4800!
Ok.
So will try it.
Put no hope.
WOnt work.

Compatible Gps navigation with Wm6

Hi Guys
I have been testing out some gps sat navs for work...tested with holux bt gps
So far I have the following which are compatible not compatible.
Destinator... works fine, however will sometimes struggle to pick up signal and requires a reset.. Otherwise all other functionality works great. Sometimes freezes when in 3d mode. (Most of these were true for wm5
Igo Myway plus- Will install on wm6(eventually) however seems to have a memory leak that causes it to slow down to nothing.... Very impressive gps sat nav on wm5. Better than most of the others I tried...
Will add more when test the other models.....
If anyone else can update me with thier info / experiences, please go ahead.

The Garmin Mobile 20 (GPS 20SM) works fine with both Windows Mobile 5 and 6. It is a Bluetooth GPS that supports using Bluetooth for receiving GPS information, and for the speakerphone, but for some reason insists on using the external speaker of the phone for navigation directions. (Or so it seems, I didn't have it long enough to do full testing).
The one problem that it seems to have (at least my unit does - I am awaiting a RMA replacement) is that it will not charge my Cingular 8525, unless I perform a soft-reset after connecting the mini-USB connector. I am hoping that it is a problem with the particular unit that I had, as I really like the Garmin products. (I suspect that it may be an issue with the product itself though, as it will charge a T-Mobile SDA, as well as an old Nokia phone not capable of Bluetooth. The 8525 does charge flawlessly when connected to a PC via mini-USB, or the supplied AC adapter, so I'm sure that it's not a problem with the phone).
-- Joe
Edit: After re-reading this, it appears you're using a generic GPS and evaluating software that works with said unit. The Garmin software pretty much only works with the Garmin units as far as I can tell, so it might not be an appropriate solution for you.

TomTom works flawlessly.
Currently i'm on v6.03 but i used 2 previous versions on WM6 with no problems.
Side note, i don't know if its because of v6.03, or WM6 but this version takes a little longer to acquire a valid GPS signal when initially turned on.

MioMap 3.2, TomTom 6.3 & Destinator 6.2 work flawlessly for me...
Destinator still has the tedious lock up issues... other then that MioMap is the best...

walshieau said:
MioMap 3.2, TomTom 6.3 & Destinator 6.2 work flawlessly for me...
Destinator still has the tedious lock up issues... other then that MioMap is the best...
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does Miomap have voice commands, or just on screen instructions only? Do they make maps for USA?

marscandybars said:
does Miomap have voice commands, or just on screen instructions only? Do they make maps for USA?
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Both quests = Positive.

GPS in TomTom doesn't find satellites...

Hi, this is my first post...my name is Alessandro, HI EVERYBODY!
I've a big problem. I've WM6 Trinity Lasagna 3 Kaiser Edition (5.2.1921 Build 18521.0.7.0) installed on my HTC p3600 (trinity). Everything works good but not the GPS connection in TomTom...It doesn't find the satellites...I've chosen Internal GPS in the settings menu of TomTom but it doesn't work...What else have I to set? (start->settings->connections->external GPS????) HELP ME PLEASE!!!!
Thank you so much...

can take up to 5 mins to find sats
make sure you are outside
external GPS????

liamhere said:
can take up to 5 mins to find sats
make sure you are outside
external GPS????
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no i've not an external GPS...I'm trying to use the integrated one...Am I doing something wrong???

Should work fine
External GPS = COM9 (in Settings/Hardware/External GPS)
in TomTom6 set to 'Other NMEA', 57600 Baud, COM9

reddall said:
Should work fine
External GPS = COM9 (in Settings/Hardware/External GPS)
in TomTom6 set to 'Other NMEA', 57600 Baud, COM9
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thank you but in Settings/Hardware/external GPS there are 3 tabs, one called programs, one called hardware and one called access (i think...is "accesso" in italian). How I have to set the 3 tabs????
In particular...
programs makes me choose a port that the softwares will use to communicate with GPS device
hardware makes me choose a port in which the GPS device is connected and the baud.
Access ask me if I want to automatic manage the GPS
What I have to set in each tab????
Thank you so much

Shouldn't matter set Progs to GPD1, HW to Com9 57600, Manage GPS Auto ON

reddall said:
Shouldn't matter set Progs to GPD1, HW to Com9 57600, Manage GPS Auto ON
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THANK you!!!!
Just another question....with Lasagna (WM6) can I use a 4gb minisd cards? and 6gb?

Follow this.. fixed it for me dude.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=333511&highlight=tomtom

QUICK GPS FIX Prog.
Using Trinity, I use this proggy "BEELINE GPS" with this programme u get a real quick GPS fix .
get a look here :
http://www.visualgps.net/BeeLineGPS/
if u wanna the proggy, look on the net or if needed i can download it here.