Develop Bugs

.Net CF and SDE

Has anyone ever successfully installed a .NetCF on an XDA?
Am i so stupid and the XDA is one of the new .Net-build-in PPC's?
also i tryed for a whole day to connect to my XDA with my VS.Net2003 via activesync, as you may have guessed without any luck.
I dont want to use eVC, when the next generation of Languages(C#) and IDE's is already at hand

OK,
i spend the last 3 days looking for a solution and i think i finally found the reason. As far as i understand Microsoft, the Phone edition of PocketPC 2002 does not support the .NetCF. :x
But, n developer conference 2002 in London i know that i was in a "hands-on-lab", where i had a first look at the .NetCF - with a Phone-PPC (prototype by Compaq, if i remember correctly)
P.S.: Could please anybody say something about that, even if it is: "Yes, Ur right - no .Net for XDA" or (better) "You are just to stupid to install.."
thanks

Now i'm even more confused:
I took a look at my PPC-Version string and it say's:
3.0.11171 Build 11178
witch means, that it's no Phone-Edition (has Version number 3.0),
that means it should be compatible to install .NetCF.
Yet i was not able to install and im getting a little angry (but cannot decide if i should be angry over me or O2 or Microsoft).
I really was looking forward to an opportunity to use C# in a real application and not just that sample-code-then-garbage projects.

Frost_28 said:
Now i'm even more confused:
I took a look at my PPC-Version string and it say's:
3.0.11171 Build 11178
witch means, that it's no Phone-Edition (has Version number 3.0),
that means it should be compatible to install .NetCF.
Yet i was not able to install and im getting a little angry (but cannot decide if i should be angry over me or O2 or Microsoft).
I really was looking forward to an opportunity to use C# in a real application and not just that sample-code-then-garbage projects.
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Shouldn't be a problem to use .Net CF on the XDA. A friend of mine has been doing it for months. Seems like you have a really old ROM though, ever thought about upgrading?

thanks for the reply.
My rom version is 3.14.16 GER, this should be the latest (German) Version.

I did it! Huhu, yeah!
For everyone else having problems:
with Visual Studio.Net 2003(BETA) installed,
take these files:
C:\Programm Files\Microsoft Visual Studio .NET 2003\CompactFrameworkSDK\v1.0.5000\Windows CE\arm\*.CAB
and copy them to the Temp directory on your device, then simply execute them.
It's as easy as this and i can't imagine, why i had problems in the first place

That's odd - the VS.Net 2003 beta just downloaded the .NetCF CAB direct my XDA the first time I hit deploy with the Pocket PC selected instead of the emulator - no problem, no fuss.
However, note this: I just tried downloading the official .NetCF deployable runtime from the MS site and when I run it, it says that my device (the XDA) isn't supported.
However, I see you've already found the solution - just copy the ARM CAB to the XDA and execute it - it installs in seconds with not so much as a single question.
Good luck with the CF - we've been using it for months and it's brilliant!
MikeS.

Thank you - and you're right: it is great!
I work with it for about 2 weeks now and have already achieved more with it, than i would have with eVC in 1 month. Also is C# a really cool language. It's fun to use it.
However, that VS2003Beta didn't deploy the CF to my XDA automatically is because i (still) can't get the connection over ActiveSync work. That also means, that i can debug only with the emulator - without a radio.
Until now it was no real problem, i just started with the non-phone-part of my App. Right now i started the development of the Phone-part and i have to guess some functionality or just use so many try catch-blocks that it slows my development a bit down.
Any suggestions what i could do to get the connection running?

Does ActiveSync 4.x crash your XP?

I have AS4.1 installed and running on XP and XP crashes with a ialmrnt, audio, or some sys dll file error. This is while having AS connected through USB. What really pisses me off is when the BA isn't connected to the computer, everything is okay. I need to pinpoint what is really cause the problem. Does AS4.x crash you WinXP install?

No. Maybe it's something with your version of Office?

Well I found out it wasn't AS. BSOD'ed on me without AS activated. Either f'ing hate windows or Intel, one of the two. This is a new install, no Office suite installed, barely any apps installed. Only necessary applications for web design, ftp, and SSH. Maybe time to swich to Mac.
Thanks to the only person that replied. I guess people are right about members on this site only replying when they have something they need. You guys are great!

Works normally here.

No, it is very reliable, compatibility with my WindowsXP. Maybe your system is illegal copy.

Nahh.. works on a pirated copy too

ya i downloaded an illegal copy of activesync 4.1 from a warez server from china.

We were referring to a pirated copy of Windows XP

z_rudy said:
We were referring to a pirated copy of Windows XP
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I don't think you understood my sarcasm. Oh China servers have what he was refering to also. Come on now, do you honestly beleive I would think it was a good or bad copy of the OS that was crashing it? Anyway, this thread was solved long ago. A bit late for anyone to start posting now.
Cheers.

JavaFX for Windows Mobile Available

"The other day Java made a version of JavaFX available for download for Windows Mobile Phone devices. JavaFX is intended to bring more rich media content to phones and since JavaFX can be cross platform (PC, Mac, BlackBerry…everything except the iPhone since Apple may never approve of it) developers can make applications one time and they can run on these platforms natively. Windows is the first mobile platform to have a release of JavaFX. The package contains 4 demos. A Twitter client, a simple calculator, a photo viewer and a little application where your finger makes a ripple and the fish follows it.
So for the first time developer’s can start to work on developing JavaFX applications and have a real mobile testing platform. Of course you can run any other Java app through this as well (I tested it with Google Maps java and it ran fine). The download and additional release notes are located here."
Original Article

whats the diff between JavaFX and regular Java
couldnt they just update the original???

does this replace completely the others java machines, like for ex jbed??

onesolo said:
does this replace completely the others java machines, like for ex jbed??
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sounds too good to be real..(as replacer).

well its posted at javafx.com

nothin said:
sounds too good to be real..(as replacer).
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onesolo said:
does this replace completely the others java machines, like for ex jbed??
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Well, I test it out and in fact is the best java machine that I test it until now for ppc!!!
Downloaded Opera mini and worked like a charm. Even asked me where I wanted to install opera mini, memory internal or external...
Many thkx sun, hopes that this would be in fact the default java machine in major phones. Or if java was not from Sun....

Well, I test it out and in fact is the best java machine that I test it until now for ppc!!!
Downloaded Opera mini and worked like a charm. Even asked me where I wanted to install opera mini, memory internal or external...
Many thkx sun, hopes that this would be in fact the default java machine in major phones. Or if java was not from Sun....
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ooh, thanks for information! need to take a closer look then.
(if only bt work with that too...you know what i mean ..).
upd: hmm it can be SLOW as hell and seems to be typical vga soft, although it handles launched application resolutions quite well(320x240 is 320x240)..

onesolo said:
Well, I test it out and in fact is the best java machine that I test it until now for ppc!!!
Downloaded Opera mini and worked like a charm. Even asked me where I wanted to install opera mini, memory internal or external...
Many thkx sun, hopes that this would be in fact the default java machine in major phones. Or if java was not from Sun....
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Hmm, I don't know. JavaFX is much, much, much slower with Opera Mini on my Touch Pro than jbed. The font seems a little nicer, though. I think it uses antialiasing.

Interesting app.
Worked fine but....
Could not install file from memory, only by internet, that worked.
Installed Gmail as test. Continuallyl, said there was no internet connection with Wifi and Active sync.
After fiddling with it. I decided to remove JavaFx. After that many strange things happened.
Had to hard reset. :-(
Wm6.1

rojaa said:
I decided to remove JavaFx. After that many strange things happened.
Had to hard reset. :-(
Wm6.1
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I have removed JavaFX, too, but everything went fine, no hard reset needed. WM6.1, too.

It works on a Touch HD. But for some reason, its slow. Esp. the fish app.

How is the Twitter App? Just asking as I tend to shy away from java apps on my device because I never really had much success with them running properly.

I'm now running Opera Mini in JavaFX rather than JBED. I like it better.
Does anyone know the correct syntax to make a shortcut to automatically run Opera Mini (rather than start JavaFX and choose Opera Mini from the list)?
With JBED it was "\windows\jbed.exe" -run s0_

DarrenUtd said:
I'm now running Opera Mini in JavaFX rather than JBED. I like it better.
Does anyone know the correct syntax to make a shortcut to automatically run Opera Mini (rather than start JavaFX and choose Opera Mini from the list)?
With JBED it was "\windows\jbed.exe" -run s0_
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When I click on New application -> From storage, I'm always asked to enter a URL, I can't seem to choose any file. Have it installed on Blackstone latest stock ROM. Any hint ?

Georgeous2008 said:
When I click on New application -> From storage, I'm always asked to enter a URL, I can't seem to choose any file. Have it installed on Blackstone latest stock ROM. Any hint ?
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The "from storage" option doesn't seem to work, but it's easy enough to just install java apps in the usual manner, as JavaFX makes itself the default JVM. Click on the JAD file in a web browser and it'll install fine.

sun java network problem
so I cooked the sun java package on my tp2.. installed opera mini... but I can't get the network. if you are running opera mini, maybe you have some provisioning files that are nessesary to connect to the internet?? OM just says that there is no network connection.

JavaFx.exe parameters
I see that you still don't know how to run this emulator from a shortcut and run in it any midlet.
But maybe someone haven't posted it yet but knows it. I hope someone will write what is the missing parameter

ignorant TP2/WM user would like guidance!

since getting my TP2 I haven't really changed any settings - mainly because I'm totally clueless about installing new applications and stuff.
I was just wondering what suggestions people would have for a new TP2 user who wishes to get the most out of his new toy?!
I would like to watch films on it, play games on it and listen to music on it. I have heard that coreplayer is good for watching movies but dunno how to go about installing it?! (thats how useless I am!).
Is there a central resource that i should be going to to find applications that are compatible with the TP2, and does anyone have any suggestions for decent applications that I should install, that are recommended and people feel improve the phone?
Also, from what I can tell, I cant just download and install a theme and pick it from a list on the phone? is this correct?
I'd eventually like to get a decent navigation program and some games installed.
I know this sounds like a pretty random post, but i've been reading some posts on here and am confused by how things are installed, and what a CAB is?!
(I also notice that I cannot get this site to load properly on my phone - it just displays a load of random characters? I am using opera, would IE solve this?)
I have an ipod touch and installing stuff on it via itunes is obviously a breeze, so is it as easy on this phone?
thanks for your time
Q99

It's all on the wiki or other posts around here ...
CAB: Install from the phone. Either mail it to yourself and download it from your mobile mail, use your USB-cable or bluetooth it or whatever.
EXE: Install it from the PC with the phone attached in ActiveSync mode.
For all the programs. Sorry, just read. I don't think anyone is going to make a list for you, Then again, everyone has different opinions ...
I can read the xda-site perfectly on my TP2. Same on my TP btw.

CAB is just an extension. Like a word document is: paper.doc
A program for you mobile can be: game.cab
A cab file is always an installation file. running this file, installs something on your pocket pc. So you have to run the file on your pocketpc.
As explained above, .exe extensions are programs ran in windows.
If you have a USB cradle the easiest way is to connect it with your pc and make a connection between those 2. Opening devicecentre (or something similar in some other language) en the connecting your TP2 to you pc will result in a popup asking if you want to set the synchornisation settings. Doing so is creating a link between your phone and your pc that will be remembered. So next time you connect, your pc recognises you mobile phone. When you have done this you have several options in the device center.
To move CAB files to your pocket pc you click on the explorer icon (bar) and it opens up your TP2's storage. After copying the file you execute it from your phone.
For installing .exe files, you also start windows mobile devicecentre and make sure they are connected. Then you run the installer from your pc. at some point the installation on the pc says it's done. Look at your phone and it asks permission to install this particular piece of software.

quasar99 said:
since getting my TP2 I haven't really changed any settings - mainly because I'm totally clueless about installing new applications and stuff.
I was just wondering what suggestions people would have for a new TP2 user who wishes to get the most out of his new toy?!
I would like to watch films on it, play games on it and listen to music on it. I have heard that coreplayer is good for watching movies but dunno how to go about installing it?! (thats how useless I am!).
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Google coreplayer, download the cab file, copy it to your phone using activesync, run the cab file from your phone using windows explorer, installing it to your storage card
quasar99 said:
Is there a central resource that i should be going to to find applications that are compatible with the TP2, and does anyone have any suggestions for decent applications that I should install, that are recommended and people feel improve the phone?
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No there isn't a App store like the Ipod , which means we don't have to suffer itunes \o/
Look around on here in the Rhodium Themes & apps section, also look in the Blackstone, Topaz and Sony Ericsson X1 sections. Most programs that run on those devices will work on the TP2
quasar99 said:
Also, from what I can tell, I cant just download and install a theme and pick it from a list on the phone? is this correct?
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It depends which version of the phone you have. The branded versions may take a bit of work but the unbranded ones should be able to use any themes designed for this device/screen resolution
quasar99 said:
I'd eventually like to get a decent navigation program and some games installed
I know this sounds like a pretty random post, but i've been reading some posts on here and am confused by how things are installed, and what a CAB is?! .
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A CAB file is an executable file that installs a program/theme/registry hack onto your phone. It has to be run on your phone
quasar99 said:
(I also notice that I cannot get this site to load properly on my phone - it just displays a load of random characters? I am using opera, would IE solve this?)
I have an ipod touch and installing stuff on it via itunes is obviously a breeze, so is it as easy on this phone?
thanks for your time
Q99
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Are the characters random when you zoom in?
A windows phone is not as easy as an iphone to install stuff, but it is not too difficult, if I can figure it out anyone can! But your TP2 will do more than an iphone and is a better device so its worth persevering with

Can I use my pocket pc to make simple programs for WM?

Hi everybody! I recently got an HTC Universal from my brother (he has a Tytn 1 and 2) and I use it more often than my pc. Im wondering if I can use it to do simple programs that I cud run on WM. I've searched the XDA forums but I'm still unsure where to start, and if its possible. I have also searched at the Windows Mobile site, but it seems that I'm required to use a pc to make a program. I travel a lot so all I have most of the time is my pocket pc.
If doing an app for WM would really require a pc, is there a way for me to at least minimize it by using my pocket pc?
I'll also appreciate any help on links and downloads for this.
Thanks!

I used to program with my Tytn.
The program was named basic4ppc
Hope it helps!

joplayer said:
I used to program with my Tytn.
The program was named basic4ppc
Hope it helps!
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thanks! I'll search for that and post some updates here!