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Not sure if this is a design function but everytime I turn the device off it returns to Today's screen.
Actually even when I toggle to screen in WMP and turn the screen back on the PPC throws me back to Today.
I initially thought it was a problem with my ROM (LSG then Custel 1.3) but after flashing to VP3G 3.0 on my 8525 (I have both an 8525 and TyTN) and without anything else installed it does that.
Any ideas if this can be changed? I'd like to open app to stay visible.
Thanks in advance for the help.
I really don't have this problem on my ROM, see signature. I have especially tested it for you to be sure.....
Perhaps flashing 1 device to a different ROM. Can you see it yourself.
that's what i figured so I had my 8525 that was running WM5.
I HardSPL, SuperCID it then flashed it with VP3G.
There is nothing else on the phone but my exchange and pop account setup, owner info and basic stuff like this.
I also have the clock shown on every apps and the extended rom unlock/mounted (though it does it with or w/o).
My TyTN is running Custel 1.3.
I just can't think what could be causing the device to always minimize open apps when the phone is turned off (standby).
It seems that some plugins force a redraw of the today screen when coming out of stb. Nothing much to do but turn off the offending plugin.
Go to settings/today and on tab for objects remove the flag for timeout. Problem gone.
Nice try, no prize - problem not gone.
This appears to be a WM6 "feature".
This discussion exists in another xda thread here, and in a Microsoft forum here.
HunterST said:
Nice try, no prize - problem not gone.
This appears to be a WM6 "feature".
This discussion exists in another xda thread here, and in a Microsoft forum here.
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This is a really annoying "feature" of WM6. So far no answer in the Microsoft forums regarding this. Would be glad if i could return to exactly the screen where i switched off the device or in which the timeout forced it to suspend.
If it is not possible to fix this with a registry hacking, would it be possible to develop a small helper application which saves which application was open before the atual suspend takes place and upon a wakeup reads this information and switches to the last active window ? The app itself is still active, isn't it ?
Regards,
Secuspec
Wait. So what exactly happens? I also used vp3G 3.0 and let's say I have Resco File Explorer open and my phone sits idle for 1 minute and goes into standby mode.. when I press the power button to make the screen turn on again, it still shows Resco File Explorer for me.. Is the bug causing it to go back to the today screen every time the phone goes into standby mode?
if a program is left open when the device is turned off (or screen "muted") the program will be minimized when you turn the Pocket PC back on (you're kicked back to Today).
Glad I'm not the only once having issues. Thought it may be a design (flaw) but IMO it's a crappy one. Wish someone can find a fix.
interesting, it looks like if you remove the device password it doesn't minimize the apps. kinda weird IMO.
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interesting, it looks like if you remove the device password it doesn't minimize the apps. kinda weird IMO.
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Isn't that what you would expect if you have a device password set!?
Mike
ericc - that's exactly the problem. Are you sure you're really going to "sleep", and you aren't just seeing your backlight turn off? (you should have to hit the power button to wake it back up).
Especially annoying when driving with navigation software - I want to just turn it on and see what I saw before it went to sleep.
MikeC - that's a very interesting point. I have exchange push email going, and my system administrator pushes restrictions onto my phone... I use Zenyee Stayunlock to allow me to change the ridiculous 5-minute lockout to something more reasonable.... perhaps either the device lock or Zenyee is the culprit.
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Isn't that what you would expect if you have a device password set!?
Mike
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Actually not really... my Windows workstation locks I expect to see the program I had maximized still on screen not all down in the toolbar minimized. IMO that doesn't make much sense (and even if it did they should have an option to select the default behaviour).
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Nice try, no prize - problem not gone.
This appears to be a WM6 "feature".
This discussion exists in another xda thread here, and in a Microsoft forum here.
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Works fine on my Tytn with WM6 official Swedish. I don't have a device lock enabled btw.
yes if the lock is turned off the programs will stay open and full screen on resume/screen toggle.
Problem seems to only take place when the device lock is enabled, no matter how long the lock period.
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yes if the lock is turned off the programs will stay open and full screen on resume/screen toggle.
Problem seems to only take place when the device lock is enabled, no matter how long the lock period.
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Thanks for the hint samw52000! That perfectly worked for me And it also sped up a lot of programs directly after wake up -what makes perfectly sense since no other program is interfering anymore.
Long time after last reply, but still no solution.
I notice if time in suspend mode is longer that programmed in settings/Lock/Prompt if device unused for... (if you have to tap your password) then screen is same as before suspend.
Hi all,
I tried searching the forum for my problem, but no one else seems to have encountered it. If I'm wrong, please let me know .
The problem is quite simple to explain: the HTC TouchFlo interface recently stopped starting at boot time on my almost brand-new Touch Pro2. TouchFlo 3D is enabled in the 'Today' configuration of WM, but I only see the black screen with the HTC logo on it, accompanied by the "Calendar" and "Contacts" buttons on the bottom of my screen.
The problem occured after installing and uninstalling several applications (S2U was one of these, also G Light and FlexMail). Recently it did start the TouchFlo interface 1/2 of the times, but now it doesn't work at all. TouchFlo does show up when manually starting the 'manila' executable from the Windows-directory, but then the interface doesn't refresh (clock shows incorrect time).
Has anyone encountered this problem too and/or does know a solution for this? It's really annoying, since TF3D is so much better than WM6.1...
Thanks!
try to read this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=522363
I have the same problem, but I could solve it by disabling the sim pin1. Try this until htc will patch this (will they?)
Vogtländer
You're my hero! Indeed, disabling the PIN-code works, apparently the window asking for the PIN is messing with TF3D at boot time...
touchFlo cannot start on my Touch Cruise II
Hi everybody
after customizing my Touch Cruise with manilla customizer, i have the same problem, touch Flo cannot start.
warm reboot , nok
reinstall manilla, nok
add pin code, remove pin code , nok
i desactivate in tab settings the "MyFavesWidget" and the touchFlo start now....
everything is ok now (for me)....
/jfvp
Guys, call HTC, it's free! If no one, or only ONE does (I did), HTC will not fix... Calling is free...
I think this may well be correct - it may also be worth trying to wait for a while before entering your PIN 1.
My TP2 seems quite sensitive to how fast I enter the PIN in while it is still going through the startup process.
I removed some programs I last installed, and the problem was over.
I'm very curious whether HTC can do something with this problem: The first thing they'll do is hard-reset the device.
And see: No Problems --> Software related --> Bill for end user. $$
I've got the same problem and left a message at the HTC Support, hopefully they will fix it
I had to start the TP2 about 10 times until the TF3D started...
I will try, disabling the PIN, thx for the advice
Well for me it, I got 100% work on my TF3D since i bought it until today no matter how many times i restarted it.
I always unchecked the TF3D before installing any third party software, and configured whatever setting on the software that i have installed before activating TF3D again.
Never have problem with TF3D.
since i deinstalled s2u2 i never had that error again
I actually had the same issue, but disabling the PIN is unaceptable for me for security reasons.
I found that if a popup appears (no matter which popup, e.g. an empty battery notification) BEFORE the PIN is entered, TouchFLO will not start. Any popup after the PIN seems to have no influance.
So you'll have to check whether you see a popup before the PIN (and they can appear very shortly) and then uninstall that app.
That should solve your problem...
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I actually had the same issue, but disabling the PIN is unaceptable for me for security reasons.
I found that if a popup appears (no matter which popup, e.g. an empty battery notification) BEFORE the PIN is entered, TouchFLO will not start. Any popup after the PIN seems to have no influance.
So you'll have to check whether you see a popup before the PIN (and they can appear very shortly) and then uninstall that app.
That should solve your problem...
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didn't solve my problem, because I do not see any popups, before PIN.
HTC Support wrote me to Hard Reset my TP2 and If it doesn't work then, I'll have to send it to HTC for repair....
I will try a hard reset tonight
I raised this with HTC some time ago and they advised quite a few people have called / emailed them to advise of this very problem.
I think they are working on a patch to fix this but as yet i have heard nothing.
I also noticed that a messed up entry in the launch manager can prevent tf3d from starting. I tried to unlock some of the locked entries in the registry and accidently messed up some key. This prevented TF3d from starting.
I have the same problem, i solved disabling ACR.. But now manila start is very-very slow!
So.. I think there is some issue with ACR. You confirm?
worked for me
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since i deinstalled s2u2 i never had that error again
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this did it for me too. S2U seemed to be the common denominator in all the issues for everyone. a+b doesn't always equal c when we are talking causes of issues but it looks like it in this case to me. i liked the app but i could never get it to work exactly like i thought it should anyway.
so i've tried checking on/off Today/Item/TF3D, tried Flight Mode, and it still won't work. i'm talking like only 30-50% of the time it does work. and I never had PIN1 enabled!
i'm no programmer but it is conflicting with apps we install because TF3D works perfectly when the phone was fresh or hard-resetted. btw i'm using 6.1 Stock T-mobile
All,
Upgraded my unbranded UK TP2 to WM6.5 yesterday and just re-installed all the apps; here's some initial impressions.
It IS worth doing the hard reset to do the upgrade. First off, you're going to have a nice clean install which is always a good thing; secondly WM6.5 itself is more evolution than revolution; small graphical tweaks, things are 'easier' to stab at with your fingers (the screen seems more forgiving), and text/menu options/e-mails etc are spaced out more to make using the device easier on the run.
Some changes/good things/quirks in WM6.5:
Owner information option is gone from the "settings" menu. Simply activate on the Today Screen, click where it says "Touch here to enter owner information" and you're in the same place. Don't bother messing with a nice clean install with that .cab file doing the rounds on here when you just don't have to.
The honeycomb menu is a personal choice, but it's flexible and clean looking enough to make it easy to navigate around. I've gone from using SPB Menu 2 (as version 3 just did NOT integrate with TF3D and the phone contacts (soft key) option) back to just using the standard WM6.5 menu and Today Screen.
WM6.5 introduces new options to reject calls with a text message - most useful.
WM6.5 introduces a new option to automatically activate the pen notes application when the stylus is removed from the holster during a call. The main reason to remove the stylus is to scribble a phone number down, so this option is again, most welcome.
VOICE DIALLING OVER BLUETOOTH WORKS AGAIN! The feature I missed the most on my TP2 works again. I installed MS Voice Dialler 1.6UK version and with my Jawbone BT headset I'm back to normal operation.
Re-organising the main honeycomb menu is a little painful; rather than a nice "hold and drag" method, you can only "Move To Top" or "Move Down". Putting things into folders and using File Explorer is the order of the day.
The new 'slide to unlock' screen lock is a real boon for not messing up your phone while it's in your holster and avoids installing battery killing 3rd party apps.
FM Radio application is installed as a default. Again, no need for 3rd party hacks or apps.
WiFi reception and throughput speed appears to have been boosted. I certainly get a better reception in my home, in the same locations I used to get slow/juttery video streaming in.
Battery increments - not seen it in 1% as yet, anyone else confirm if it's 1 or 10% increments?
No major application incompatibility problems that I can see as yet.
Run the Rhodium Advanced Config app over the device to ensure fast GPS, A-GPS and the like is tweaked to your convenience and you'll find you can get pretty much everything you want done with a standard configuration, with your normal apps installed on it, rather than hacking and tweaking. As a result the system takes a much smaller memory footprint and everything seems to hang together more smoothly and without slowing the system down.
Hope this helps clear some things up for your normal/power users looking to update their devices. All-in-all I'm really happy with the WM6.5 update. It almost feels like the TP2 was made in the first place for WM6.5 and its just come to life with it, almost as if WM6.1 was a (temporary) necessary retrograde step that HTC didn't want to do...
Thanks and be good to see other people's feedback on the update.
Adam.
Thx for the update.
Very glad to hear that voice dialing over BT is working again and that there is a slide to lock and FM Radio (without having to install battery killing 3th party apps).
Looks very promising.
Hope I can install this soon and add some comments. Dutch version however not yet available.
The quick drop down menu from the start button is gone in 6.5/ Is there a decent cab to get it back? I've tried some previously that did not work. One thing I would miss with 6.5. Yeah, I know a petty thing to some, important to me.
I dislike BT so that feature means nothing, don't care for titanium or tf3d, so ms 3.5 is my prefered ui. My tp2 is one of the most finger friendly phones I've had yet even while running 6.1 . I know it always seems to make sense to upgrade to the latest and greatest, but the latest isn't neccessarily the greatest.
Having tried several diff cooked 6.5's on my old tp I may sit this one out for awhile. If you've neve tried 6.5 then by all means one should give it a try. Judge for yourself.
Bluetooth
Does the fact that Voice Dialling now works over BT mean that htc have upgraded the BT stack, ie hopefully gone back to the MS one?
adamchap said:
The new 'slide to unlock' screen lock is a real boon for not messing up your phone while it's in your holster and avoids installing battery killing 3rd party apps.
Adam.
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Maybe I'm missing something. It seems that the slide to unlock doesn't lock the hardware buttons. If the phone is in a case or a pocket and a call comes in, it's possible to accidentally press the hardware accept or hang up button. That's a problem that only seems solvable using 3rd party apps.
I'm very satisfied with this 6.5 rom release. It includes basically everything I wanted. The only thing is the Manila 6.5 with the animated today menu that changes as the weather from your localization changes.
even though this official release of winMo 6.5 looks great (installed the french one on an unbranded tp2) :
-i think the colored tf3d look is giving the rhodium a less serious image (too much green in it
-in general, the OS seem to be quite heavy for the device
-there's an obvious problem with the tf3d today clock (which is always giving me exactly 1hour & 2minutes earlier for 2seconds everytime i press the "no" button)
-also i noticed that the wi-fi antenna doesn't automatically reconnect to the selected network after i put the phone out of sleep mode, while the wi-fi antenna stays active on the phone!!?
and seriously guys, i still don't get why they didn't provide tp2 users with manila 2.5, it makes absolutelly no "SENSE"
thank you so much.
could you tell us if tom tom run ok and if you can use it in landscape mode?
s2u2 is compatible?
sorry of my english.
thank you
true2you said:
also i noticed that the wi-fi antenna doesn't automatically reconnect to the selected network after i put the phone out of sleep mode, while the wi-fi antenna stays active on the phone!!?
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agreed, it's a bit annoying, it also deactiveates the wi-fi when you soft reset the device... I'm sure there will be a tweak for it soon!
malumbreras said:
thank you so much.
could you tell us if tom tom run ok and if you can use it in landscape mode?
s2u2 is compatible?
sorry of my english.
thank you
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s2u2 still works but the new 'lock' that this version of Windows Mobile is very similar...
I noticed the thing about the clock temporarily showing the time an hour and 2 minutes earlier for about 2 seconds. Can the OP please explain how I can get the owner info screen to enter my details. I cant find anywhere on the today screen where it says 'tap to enter information'
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I noticed the thing about the clock temporarily showing the time an hour and 2 minutes earlier for about 2 seconds. Can the OP please explain how I can get the owner info screen to enter my details. I cant find anywhere on the today screen where it says 'tap to enter information'
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For the Owner info - see this topic (link in first page):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=571376
lombardo8 said:
I noticed the thing about the clock temporarily showing the time an hour and 2 minutes earlier for about 2 seconds.
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This is a feature of the manila/sense itself to give the effect of the old clocks with the flipping numbers.
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This is a feature of the manila/sense itself to give the effect of the old clocks with the flipping numbers.
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but the new clocks still flips as well......
never had this with the stock rom, plus it's more than annoying when it happens after using the task manager or locking the device with the "no/end call" button... so it often happens to me and when it does, it's three times in two seconds so thanks to htc guys for making it worst
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This is a feature of the manila/sense itself to give the effect of the old clocks with the flipping numbers.
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never had this with the stock rom, plus it's more than annoying when it happens after using the task manager or locking the device with the "no/end call" button... so it often happens to me and when it does, it's three times in two seconds so thanks to htc guys for making it worst
true2you said:
never had this with the stock rom, plus it's more than annoying when it happens after using the task manager or locking the device with the "no/end call" button... so it often happens to me and when it does, it's three times in two seconds so thanks to htc guys for making it worst
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I think it actually has something to do with the my location thing, but since I can't get that to work properly most of it is just an annoyance. Lol
E-mail to HTC (bug that I found in Manila 2.1 in the WM 6.1 that still maintains in WM 6.5):
Good Morning
I've been using the Windows Mobile 6.1 for a while and found a bug that I was expecting to be solved in the 6.5 release but unfortunately no.
When I choose in the weather tab the City of Lisbon, Portugal and update the forecast it corrects me the system time to GMT CASABLANCA instead of using the correct GMT LONDON, DUBLIN.
The Portuguese Time includes changes to the Winter Time and Summer Time, like in UK. To correct that I need to use always as my default city London, not taking use of the function from the new Manila: "My Location".
Can that be corrected in a next release?
Best Regards
Márcio Teixeira
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Does the fact that Voice Dialling now works over BT mean that htc have upgraded the BT stack, ie hopefully gone back to the MS one?
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Nope, it's still the WidComm BT Stack.
lombardo8 said:
I noticed the thing about the clock temporarily showing the time an hour and 2 minutes earlier for about 2 seconds. Can the OP please explain how I can get the owner info screen to enter my details. I cant find anywhere on the today screen where it says 'tap to enter information'
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Quick and easy - don't bother downloading and installing cabs, this is easier!
Go to Settings -> Today and make sure that in the "Items" tab, the option for "Owner Info" is ticked.
Now go to your today screen. There will be the owner information line - and if you've entered nothing, it'll say "Tap to enter info..." just tap there and enter the info in the control panel that appears.
If you then don't want Owner Info on your today screen (but just wanted to enter a username for app registration etc), then go back into Settings -> Today and untick the Owner Info option.
Thx,
Adam.
===============UPDATE==============
The application was the SPB Fullscreen Keyboard v4.11 that was the culprit, verified over 3 hard resets that this is the offending program.
I hope this saves anyone else from going through the grief I have suffered. I completely forgot to include it on my list below so I am glad I had the patience to test one more time. (I ussualy forget to install it, then go to txt message or something and install it).
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I am pretty much at wits end here and am preparing to return this huge lump of crap to the store. It seems that if I install "pretty much anything" and NOT use the touch-flo garbage... the phone will work great.... until i need or want to soft-reset it....
then the logo comes up, the ROM/RADIO numbers, and then the screen turns black, to never come on again.
Having worked for Sprint for 5 years, and moreover having built my own custom roms at PPCGeeks for 2 years I feel that I have a pretty good grip on the ins & outs of windows mobile.
I have NO clue what is going on with this phone.
I have three of them in my possession. It happens on all three.
I install each application, ONE-AT-A-TIME, soft reset after every single install, its fine. I wait a day or so, soft reset... SURPRISE you gotta redo your phone.
I have narrowed it down to a few programs that *may* be the cause of my irritation...
-Phonealarm (overrides the notifications...???)
-Ptravelalarm (and three other alarm programs) notification flaw???
-Memmaid (deals with notifications...???)
I dont expect anyone to know the answer, maybe someone else is having this issue (i hate Touch-Flo) and is trying to install programs to make the handset usable from the today-screen.
I am going to list my installed programs, and maybe, just maybe, someone smarter than myself can pinpoint the culprit.
-batti 2.4
-calendar plus
-sbp fullscreen keyboard 4.11
-google maps 3.21 (never GPS locks btw)
-iContact 95
-phonealarm 2.30
-pTravelalarm 2.81
-Resco File Explorer 7.05
-rlToday v22b
Thats it, thats all i use on my phone, im a creature of simplicity. On the todayscreen i have phonealarm, rltoday, ptravelalarm, calander+
I went to the forums for both phonealarm & memmaid, and there doesnt seem to be any threads with my issue. ptravelalarm has no support, but I have tried g-alarm, gsalarm & poweralarm, and they all seem to fail as well.
Again I cant narrow it down to a single application because after an install and reset it works fine. Its like "after the program simmers" that it wants to "Black-Screen" the phone.
I am 100% sure that a custom ROM will alleviate all of my issues as I am using all of those programs on a 6800 and a 6900, with WM 6.1 & WM 6.5 respectively.
They even work on the stock roms for both handsets....
Any ideas? How far out is the HARD-SPL? I have about 3 weeks left before I have to return these things.
Thank you for reading, and any help that may be forthcoming.
I'm having the exact same issue, it's very frustrating to pay $400+ for a phone only to have it blackscreen of death you every time you try to boot it up. Touchflo seems nice but it just adds extra button presses to what should be straightforward tasks. I hope things turn around but right now I'm not impressed.
Although I'm a fairly experienced WinMo user I was initially completely dumbfounded by TouchLockPro's setup UI. For some reason, after reflashing to Jackos ROM (after using DeepShining for a day - brand new TP2) values i know should be in some boxes on the Nav Sensor tab are blank and I have no idea what to put in them. The manual - what exists of it - is indecipherable to me in places and the Quick Setup guide on the web site is anything but.
I tried choosing the phone profile from the small dropdown box (to 6: 'HTC Rhodium (Touch Pro 2)') but even after resetting all the TLP settings to Defaults and trying again, I still can't get some things like the zoombar unlock features to work. (just can't get it to accept input to perform lock/unlock actions). The proximity sensor constantly reports -1 or 0 even though it's marked as enabled in the registry and obviously works because the screen blanks when I'm making a call (and turns on again as soon as I take it away from my head).
I really want to love this program and feel that it solves the problem I'm currently having (...no good device lock!) but I can't figure out how to configure it correctly to actually do what I expect of it. Anybody else who's run the gauntlet with the TLP setup interface care to give me some pointers or point me at a good setup tutorial?
Cheers
Chris
christopherwoods said:
Although I'm a fairly experienced WinMo user I was initially completely dumbfounded by TouchLockPro's setup UI. For some reason, after reflashing to Jackos ROM (after using DeepShining for a day - brand new TP2) values i know should be in some boxes on the Nav Sensor tab are blank and I have no idea what to put in them. The manual - what exists of it - is indecipherable to me in places and the Quick Setup guide on the web site is anything but.
I tried choosing the phone profile from the small dropdown box (to 6: 'HTC Rhodium (Touch Pro 2)') but even after resetting all the TLP settings to Defaults and trying again, I still can't get some things like the zoombar unlock features to work. (just can't get it to accept input to perform lock/unlock actions). The proximity sensor constantly reports -1 or 0 even though it's marked as enabled in the registry and obviously works because the screen blanks when I'm making a call (and turns on again as soon as I take it away from my head).
I really want to love this program and feel that it solves the problem I'm currently having (...no good device lock!) but I can't figure out how to configure it correctly to actually do what I expect of it. Anybody else who's run the gauntlet with the TLP setup interface care to give me some pointers or point me at a good setup tutorial?
Cheers
Chris
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You will have more luck when you post your question in this thread:
TouchLockPro thread
So also others can help.