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Hi!
I’ve just received my phone back from AT&T Repair Center. Sent it there because of “No GSM” problem. Guess I was experimenting with ROMs and radios too much. Anyways, now I have my 8525 with virgin WM5 installed on it and I don’t want to mess up the phone again, ‘cos my life without it was really miserable. But I really got used to WM6 (I was using Pandora 9.1 for couple months prior to breakdown). So I would like to upgrade the ROM to WM6, but do it as safe as possible. As far as I now, it is better to flash latest official AT&T WM6 ROM before flashing any modified ROM. I did check Mr.Vanx guide, but I couldn’t find the answer to my question – it guides you how to flash modded ROMs, however I couldn’t find info about how to flash original ROM.
So , could anybody quickly guide me through the process of doing it SAFELY, please?
Hard-SPL – should I do it before I do it anything else (before reflashing original AT&T WM5 with original AT&T WM6). I still do not understand what is this “Hard-SPL” , the only thing I know is that it can potentially prevent bricking bricking the phone, have no idea what exactly it does though
If I remember right, you cannot choose Hard-SPL when using Official AT&T ROM upgrade utility. Should I extract the nbh file and put it into a folder with Custom RUU Wrapper in it and run it from there?
From SD card or via ActiveSync? Which is safer? Is Hard-SPL needed if flashing with SD card?
Should I install the complete AT&T WM6 ROM or install vp3G ROM without a radio, so radio is left untouched (it is 1.40.30.00 now)
So it all comes to the question - What is the safest installation sequence?
1) WM5 -> WM6 from SD card
2) WM5 -> WM6 via ActiveSync
3) WM5 -> Hard-SPL -> Official AT&TWM6 from SD card
4) WM5 -> Hard-SPL -> Extracted nbh from official AT&T WM6 coupled with Custom RUU wrapper via ActiveSync
5) Other
Thank you!
And please, do not send me to search, I did... Just pick the number Thanks again!
i vote for 3
Are you crazy I was like u I instead got a new 8525 from Craigslist, but anyways came with WM5
and THE ABSOLUTE 1st THING I DID WAS HARDSPL : 2.10.Oli and then the ABSOLUTE best ROM for AT&T customers is vp3G's WM6 v3.62 AT&T ROM but I have an older Radio like 1.16.00.00 but I am scared to FLASH my radio to 1.54 so till I grow the balls to flash my RADIO I'm gonna STICK WITH 1.16 and vp3G's WM6 v3.62 AT&T ROM like he says "AT&T WM6 sweetness without all of the suckiness"
if you are simply wanting to use stock at&t wm6 just us activesync and open up your update package. you can then use hard spl if you wish to falsh a custom rom
brorex said:
if you are simply wanting to use stock at&t wm6 just us activesync and open up your update package. you can then use hard spl if you wish to falsh a custom rom
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I agree wholeheartedly with this advice. HardSPL is a great utility, but if you have your mind set on the stock AT&T ROM (I've been using it for months, and it's not that bad), then simply use the one that's legit, and don't mess with anything else. This way, if something DOES go wrong, it should still be fully covered under warranty.
-pvs
pvs said:
I agree wholeheartedly with this advice. HardSPL is a great utility, but if you have your mind set on the stock AT&T ROM (I've been using it for months, and it's not that bad), then simply use the one that's legit, and don't mess with anything else. This way, if something DOES go wrong, it should still be fully covered under warranty.
-pvs
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You're actually fine with flashing hardspl (for xda rom cooked upgrades) and flashing back to stock ATT rom if you're sending your phone back for a replacement. I've done it twice within my 1yr warranty coverage.
I never had any issues with ATT receiving my broken phone and telling me they would not honor the warranty. I received my replacement phone and I'm fine.
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pvs said:
HardSPL is a great utility, but if you have your mind set on the stock AT&T ROM (I've been using it for months, and it's not that bad), then simply use the one that's legit, and don't mess with anything else. This way, if something DOES go wrong, it should still be fully covered under warranty.
-pvs
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Thanks for replies guys!
So HardSPL is not necessary if I want to flash AT&T ROM on AT&T phone? It can provide some additional safety only when flashing custom ROM? Is vp3G's WM6 v3.62 AT&T ROM considered to be "Official" or "Custom" from the HardSPL point of view ("Derived from AT&T Final WM6 ROM (3.62.502.3)")? I have to admit that I am a little afraid to mess with the radio. As of now, I am leaning towards flashing vp3G ROM (OS only) from SD card without HardSPL.
P.S. My phone is not under warranty anymore. So when I came to AT&T store asking if my phone can be fixed (No GSM), they offered me to buy a new phone
All you have to do is plug into activesync and flash it.
It doesn't matter because the WM6 AT&T official rom doesn't need to be hardspl or anything
nemets said:
As of now, I am leaning towards flashing vp3G ROM (OS only) from SD card without HardSPL.
P.S. My phone is not under warranty anymore. So when I came to AT&T store asking if my phone can be fixed (No GSM), they offered me to buy a new phone
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If you decide to go with vp3g, you should definitely flash HardSPL first. That is NOT an official ROM. Don't get careless, now. Warranty or not, you don't want a brick.
-pvs
If you decide to go with vp3g, you should definitely flash HardSPL first.
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THAT IS A MUST!! vp3g IS THE BEST ROM 4 us AT&T customers
Just thought I'd drop this here... Despite how much I read and re-read all the instructions, I mis-understood the two unlockers, and flashed the Alltel ROM on my Verizon XV6900 with the 0.40 Unlocker and wound up with a brick.
Even flashing the Verizon RUU dump wouldn't fix it... SPL 2.01 RGB screen and that's it.
So after much research... MTTY to the rescue. set 16 0, task 8, and viola... unbricked! (I think flashing the verizon ruu first was important)
No storage card needed (or possible on the Verizon, there's no slot!)
Thanks all... still trying to get GPS working now, so far nothing.
vogue_brick1 said:
Just thought I'd drop this here... Despite how much I read and re-read all the instructions, I mis-understood the two unlockers, and flashed the Alltel ROM on my Verizon XV6900 with the 0.40 Unlocker and wound up with a brick.
Even flashing the Verizon RUU dump wouldn't fix it... SPL 2.01 RGB screen and that's it.
So after much research... MTTY to the rescue. set 16 0, task 8, and viola... unbricked! (I think flashing the verizon ruu first was important)
No storage card needed (or possible on the Verizon, there's no slot!)
Thanks all... still trying to get GPS working now, so far nothing.
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There is a microSD slot on the XV6900. It is on the right side of the phone under the chrome trim. You can see a small SD icon on the side of the phone next to the stylus under the battery cover!
louderjw said:
There is a microSD slot on the XV6900. It is on the right side of the phone under the chrome trim. You can see a small SD icon on the side of the phone next to the stylus under the battery cover!
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Thanks! I looked all over
vogue_brick1 said:
No storage card needed (or possible on the Verizon, there's no slot!)
Thanks all... still trying to get GPS working now, so far nothing.
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Not trying to be a flamer here ... but ... you should really learn about your phone stock ... capabilities ... features ... etc. ... prior to doing custom flashes ... especially with the radio ... fortunately for you and me ... it is extremely hard to "brick" a HTC phone ... it may seem bricked ... but I've only ever seen a couple true bricks ... most can be recovered by the heavy hitters here
My point is that you really need to understand your phone and what you're trying to do prior to doing custom roms ... unlockers, relockers, etc. ... this is extremely important when doing radio changes ... fearless and aggressive is no way to approach these changes
And as always .... read ... read ... read ... did I mention READ!!!!!
Again ... not flaming you ... kinda using you as an example so others will learn and maybe keep the number of true bricks to a minimum
Fuzzy
I agree, I got a little excited with this and should have taken my time... My last phone was an Apache xv6700 and I had a blast flashing that and upgrading it over the past 2 years. I rushed into it with this one because I'm an impulse guy and had just bought the phone within 24 hours
me too!
vogue_brick1 said:
Even flashing the Verizon RUU dump wouldn't fix it... SPL 2.01 RGB screen and that's it.
So after much research... MTTY to the rescue. set 16 0, task 8, and viola... unbricked! (I think flashing the verizon ruu first was important)
No storage card needed (or possible on the Verizon, there's no slot!)
Thanks all... still trying to get GPS working now, so far nothing.
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could you explain how to use mtty! i "bricked" my xv6900 a couple weeks ago too. its stuck on the rainbow screen with the original spl (took a few flashes to get there)! i tried mtty when i did it and there wasnt a usb option in the program! im running on vista. already got my replacement too!
Not sure how to help you... There was a USB entry in the list when I did it, on XP.
On a separate note, I got GPS working and it's incredible.
Nice to see a Verizon user with GPS working!
Mind posting a little guide? I have my Vogue on order right now and want to update it right away for the GPS.
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Nice to see a Verizon user with GPS working!
Mind posting a little guide? I have my Vogue on order right now and want to update it right away for the GPS.
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Here are the steps I took to successfully get the Verizon hacked with gps:
1. get it hooked up with activesync
2. unlock with imcokeman 0.40 unlocker
(the docs said to flash to the original rom here, but there is no verizon ruu, and my phone auto-reflashed itself anyways and ran customizations)
3. unlock with imcokeman 2.31 unlocker
4. install the alltel RUU (should be in sticky thread)
5. download Build OS from ppckitchen.org and use the updater to get the vogue 6.1 gps 3.02 kitchen
6. pick options and build, flash..
fire open google maps, pick menu->use gps.. magic.
It helped me out of a jam tonight, lost in bumblefukk and found my way back with it.
could you please explain in step-by-step detail as to how you unbricked your xv6900?
I'm currently working on my friend's xv6900 (TyTN II user myself) and unlocking and flashing roms on this phone is so different (yet kind of the same?) and I'm now at a point where I'm stuck at the HTC startup screen and thats about it. where did you get MTTY and how exactly do you use it? I tried downloading one but it was a very old version (2001) and I'm pretty sure that it's not the one you were using.
if anyone else knows how to unbrick this phone please chime in thanks a lot!
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Just thought I'd drop this here... Despite how much I read and re-read all the instructions, I mis-understood the two unlockers, and flashed the Alltel ROM on my Verizon XV6900 with the 0.40 Unlocker and wound up with a brick.
Even flashing the Verizon RUU dump wouldn't fix it... SPL 2.01 RGB screen and that's it.
So after much research... MTTY to the rescue. set 16 0, task 8, and viola... unbricked! (I think flashing the verizon ruu first was important)
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Can you explain what you did after MTTY? I bricked mine, got stuck in the SPL 2.1.1000 bootloader, used MTTY, got it unbricked, but now am stuck at the leaked sprint rom's splash screen. Any help would be greatly appreciated!!
I have a Touch Diamond branded by telstra after reading looking through the forum for a while I can't find an answer to a perplexing question ....
Has anyone tried to change the rom on a telstra branded TD to the vodafone rom?
Or has anyone changed to a custom rom with a telstra branded and to what success?
Thanks everyone in advance for help.
While I haven't tried the Vodaphone Rom I have tried a number of other ROM's Dutty's, Swifts, Panosha's Simple, and now Hikari ( i don't like the Tf3d). All have worked well on the Telstra Network. I can't see why it won't work on the Vodaphone network. My nephew's work fine on the Optus network.
To be really honest the only extra functionality you will gain from the Vodafone ROM is the Vodafone specific software and the theme.
If it's just the theme you are after I suggest browsing this forum for one.
Alternatively if you're after the Vodafone ROM for Vodafone SIM... I'd skip that and jump straight onto one of the custom ROMs. The phone performance is a HEAP better than any of the telecommunication company's stock ROMs.
Food for thought.
Im on NextG with Telstra and i have tried nearly every rom here except vodafone.. but the only one flaw with using a unbranded telstra rom is being able to access bigpond.. like with foxtel and all that.. just doesnt pick it up as being a 3.5G phone.
i dunno why.. but i have just put it back to telstra rom and modded it completely myself. if i knew how to take like an image of it i would and post it up here but i wouldnt know one thing about cooking roms lol
I have a Telstra branded Diamond and am using it with an Optus SIM.
When I first got the phone I couldn't get it to accept the Optus settings for Internet access.
So... I upgraded it to one of the cooked ROMS. (Dia Duit and Duttys were tried)
Since then I haven't gone back to the standard ROM and enjoy the better performance.
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I have a Telstra branded Diamond and am using it with an Optus SIM.
When I first got the phone I couldn't get it to accept the Optus settings for Internet access.
So... I upgraded it to one of the cooked ROMS. (Dia Duit and Duttys were tried)
Since then I haven't gone back to the standard ROM and enjoy the better performance.
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Did you run Connection Setups? I got my Voda and Optus to work. Try again.
luckyluke1137 said:
Im on NextG with Telstra and i have tried nearly every rom here except vodafone.. but the only one flaw with using a unbranded telstra rom is being able to access bigpond.. like with foxtel and all that.. just doesnt pick it up as being a 3.5G phone.
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If you're talking about the Bigpong 'free to browse' page being different the all you need is to change the 'custom user agent' setting in Opera... see here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2688822&postcount=260
But anyway... to answer the OP, I've flashed a stack of ROMs from here and am currently happy with CT's latest (HD version). Just remember to keep the original specs (Radio & ROM version no.s) in case you need to revert for warranty.
thanks for all the help
thanks for all your comments
I bought the touch diamond second hand, and didn't realise till after I'd parted with the money it was branded (HUGE newbie mistake) but I haven't bought a new phone for 6 years since I got the Nokia 6620.
I use a vodafone sim, and have it working pretty well, just the last lot of telstra locked stuff annoys me. Thanks to this fantastic forum I have been able to change and unlock most of it. Biggest thing is some things just won't work on it, because the current Telstra rom is 1.38.841.5 (vodafone rom is 1.96.XXX.X) and experience a fair share of the modding apps & cabs have problems or simply don't work.
I was thinking of the vodafone one simply because I'm with them. Also when I was first trying to unlock it talked to HTC and they said I couldn't use the vodafone rom on my telstra branded because the hardware in the telstra one is different to the vodafone one.
Thanks for the help, can anyone suggest the best custom rom, & what else do i need to change roms? I've got a bit of a IT background, just not with phones.
Really love this little phone, and I see potential for tf3d, but long way of modding to get it as I want it.
Thanks again everyone.
I have a similar question, thought I'd save wasting a new thread and post it here.
I've had a Telstra branded Diamond for a few months now, using it with a 3 Mobile SIM, and have had no worries until a couple of days ago, when I started roaming, and haven't been able to reconnect to the three mobile network since..
Any ideas??
The only question regarding Telstra branded Diamonds is returning to original SPL 1.38 for warranty reasons..
just one more thought
another question or two...
If I upgrade to another custom rom will I still have to unlock it after the hard reset?
I've been looking and think I've found the rom I want, but can't find a definitive link for hard spl. I've read the thread that everywhere directs me to and the links that I think are for the unsigned hardspl has the headind stock spls, or am I just misreading this.
Also does anyone know if CT 6.4 is signed or unsigned?
Guys - I understand the confusion surrounding upgrading and flashing ROMs as it was only recently I was in the same position.
So in an attempt to make it a little easier for those reading here I will pass on what has worked well for me...
1. Flash HardSPL as downloaded from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=93362&d=1213719705 (it's unsigned but don't worry about that... it saves headaches if you want my opinion)
2. Download the ROM of your choice (as stated earlier - my preference is currently CT's v6.4HD... fast, stable and HD, what more do you want?)
3. Once you have the ROM, extract the .nbh file and rename it to DIAMIMG.nbh and copy this to the root of your internal storage on your Diamond
4. If you're ready to flash (meaning you've backed up whatever you wanna save) then hold the vol down and back button and press the reset button together until you see the tri-colour screen... you're then in the bootloader
5. The phone will search for the .nbh file you placed in memory and ask you to press the power button to confirm you want to flash... obviously you want to do this so sit back while it flashes
6. Once done, reset the phone and perform a hard reset (this is recommended by most ppl although I haven't always done it and never had any issues)
Now enjoy setting your phone up with a custom ROM...
If you want more detail then I strongly suggest you search around and read... it takes time and effort but it's definitely worth it if you want to flash with confidence...
Cheers
not as easy
Sorry if anyone read this orginal post just getting jitters when something went wrong with hardspl flash.
But a soft reset later and its still works. But it raises the question if something bad happens when flashing the hardspl and bootloader doesn't work what can be done apart from throwing phone away?
I assume as long as the bootloader works you can manually redo incomplete rom install?
Something going wrong with hard spl install is my biggest worry, it was a nats ear from happening a little earlier so I'm asking these questions.
Oh & last thing with CT's 6.4 rom what is the real difference between original TF3d and HD? How is the increased screen resolution handled? Do you have to scroll down for the area I cant see, or is it cut off so you can not access it, or is it squished to fit the smaller resolution?
Greenion said:
Sorry if anyone read this orginal post just getting jitters when something went wrong with hardspl flash.
But a soft reset later and its still works. But it raises the question if something bad happens when flashing the hardspl and bootloader doesn't work what can be done apart from throwing phone away?
I assume as long as the bootloader works you can manually redo incomplete rom install?
Something going wrong with hard spl install is my biggest worry, it was a nats ear from happening a little earlier so I'm asking these questions.
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As long as you can access the bootloader you should be able to sort out the phone... personally I've never had an issue with flashing (and on average I've flashed my two Diamonds (a 130 and 100) an easy 30-40 times).
My preference with flashing is to do it from the internal storage (seems the most logical in terms of reliability - and is also by far the fastest) but I'm not sure if HardSPL can be done that way - if it is possible I'd be strongly recommending it - USB connections are just too dicey for something that serious.
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Also does anyone know if CT 6.4 is signed or unsigned?
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I have the OliNex 1.4 hard spl and I can flash CT's ROM without any problem.
done
Well it done.
A little easier than I was expecting but just as concerning, but over now.
Finally went with CT's 6.4 Original, I can always change to the HD or just add one of the HD add ons.
Everything is running smooth and well. Finally all the testra crap is gone.
Thanks to everyone for their help and kind advice.
This is a GREAT forum, its been a fantastic help and resource.
Till next time
How do you flash the new 2.03 ROM? I have tried with the executable from HTC and it gives me an invalid ID error.
Windza said:
As long as you can access the bootloader you should be able to sort out the phone... personally I've never had an issue with flashing (and on average I've flashed my two Diamonds (a 130 and 100) an easy 30-40 times).
My preference with flashing is to do it from the internal storage (seems the most logical in terms of reliability - and is also by far the fastest) but I'm not sure if HardSPL can be done that way - if it is possible I'd be strongly recommending it - USB connections are just too dicey for something that serious.
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Well since no one seems to know. I have the HTC banded Excalibur with the Dodpod 6.1 WM rom. The Dopod WM5 rom doesn't exist anymore. I am going to flash it with the T-mobile WM5 rom on this site. Are there steps I need to take before doing this? If I do and it gets stuck at 3% for wrong factory will the phone then be bricked?
Wifi # 1.333.000
Thanks for the help.
But why flash to an older ROM?
We have great chefs cookin wm6.5 ported ROM´s!!
As long as you read and follow this guidelines you´ll be ok
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=397583
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=415225
Once you have the how, go to the proper section and choose a ROM!
There is no better ROM, that will depend on your personal needs, but believe me there are great ROM´s even better than the "official" ones...
Good luck,
Thanks and apreciate the response. But it has more to do with my first post of not being able to sync with PC. I was told that I need to revert the rom to the original. I have no idea what that is and since I can't use the SDA unlock app. I don't know if I don't unlock and it freezes when downgraded if I have an expensive brick on my hands.
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Thanks and apreciate the response. But it has more to do with my first post of not being able to sync with PC. I was told that I need to revert the rom to the original. I have no idea what that is and since I can't use the SDA unlock app. I don't know if I don't unlock and it freezes when downgraded if I have an expensive brick on my hands.
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I had issues syncing with my PC with WM 6.1. You can flash the original rom ( I used the original T-mobile rom) using the bootloader. With your phone off, hold the camera button and plug in ur USB then hit power button. the Tricolored bootloader screen should appear. You can flash your phone to the original rom from there. Once your phone is flashed, you might wanna think about flashing a WM 6.5 rom since the syncing problem is pretty much not an issue.
P.S. all of this can be found by reading through the threads.
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Well since no one seems to know. I have the HTC banded Excalibur with the Dodpod 6.1 WM rom. The Dopod WM5 rom doesn't exist anymore. I am going to flash it with the T-mobile WM5 rom on this site. Are there steps I need to take before doing this? If I do and it gets stuck at 3% for wrong factory will the phone then be bricked?
Wifi # 1.333.000
Thanks for the help.
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is it not right here?
and to answer your question i believe that you would just need to flash an official dopod rom back onto it(using bootloader)...before proceeding with the reflash to the rom of your choice...the new 3vo rom is nice, by the way
I'm with telus, i flashed my Telus Omnia 1 phone. I wanted to install the system update CF03 on my phone that i found with the Samsung website. i tough it will correct my sms problems. They where not always sended to others.
The problem is like you allready know, it change with verizon drivers, and now the battery doesnt work nor the phone mode. I tought Samsungs os and driver where compatible with all their Omnia. But ... Telus and Bell Omnia doesnt work after installing thoses Rom.
Now, i'm looking for an original telus Rom, or any information if this as been fixed by TELUS or Samsung or even a Cooked rom for Telus Omnia for people like me
that didnt knew all the facts.
Any solution at this time ?
I'll be really happy if one of you can take the time to look for a solution.
All i've find so far is : Cant post the link yet ... (new to this forum)
I really hope there is a solution, this happened to a lots of people. I'm just looking for a way to get it like it was out of the box or (as close as possible).
I just got the phone a few month ago, so i hope i wont have to buy a new one for that mistake.
Seems like you killed the phone part... Flashing that carries a risk. You'll still be able to use the device as a PDA just not as a phone... I'm under the belief there's no solution but you'll have better luck in getting the correct answer at modaco. As you can see there's no Omnia section here at xda.
There is no official omnia section here, however if you search on the top you may find some help.
Also to answer your question about the ROM for telus, you know you can always revert back to the original ROM right?
you need to do a Hard reset and it should revert to the original factory settings, i have done that 2 times when trying to figure out a way to insert the 6.5 Rom on my omnia. I have managed since then to install it without issues and to be honest nothing special.
It's just a plain install without opting to install verizon modules, i also had to change some kernal codes other then that it was fine.