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Hi Admins,
though i think that the ftp with its well-known user/pass is a very comfortable way to make files public, it seems as if some dorks are using this freedom to delete/change/corrupt files again and again.
Can we make ftp read-only so that you can only upload via web-interface? Im afraid thats the only way to get rid of these nagging fellows...
greetings,
quappo
I couldn't agree more! There is a chance to destroy our devices by corrupted ROMs and then blame the user that uploaded the file in order to help the community while he is not responsible for something like that!
Well said quappo!
I totally agree!
Yes, non-public FTP we should have.
I agree too!
I agree. Non-Public ftp!
Agree
Agree
Agree.... Make the FTP read only.... and a upload folder....
Cheers
Agree
Agre, but how to control the access?
Agree, read-only and upload folder/s
this is surely the way forward so that
1) the uploader doesnt get blamed for currupt files
2) this would help protect our devices for currupt roms images!
me too.
buzz
non-public FTP
OK, I'll make this happen soon.
agree too. hopefully it will make the bandwidth usage of this site less as its been VERY slow and down quite a bit recently.
Blueangel FTP Trashing now Nr. 2
Well the blueaangle site has had its SECOND trashing since march 16
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=100072#100072
We just cleaned up the mess, reposted what we could find and corrected the wiki links and bang, back to the start again.
I agree with this.
I am willing to offer some support to the developers on this, as they are obviously busy guys.
I would be happy to "moderate" the FTP as such.. so I could regularly check the upload folder (which everyone could have write access to)
Then move the files into thier relevant areas (Himilaya, BlueAngel, Tools etc.. Which could be Read Only access)
This way we wouldn't have people trashing the FTP.
Cheers
Site is non public
Hi all
We now have FTP admins for the site.
Please note that we are normal users that have a ftp account that has more rights than the xda user who will be able to post in a upload area and download but NOT Delete.
Now the BA section is covered with vastloper, HappyGoat and MDAIIIUser.
The other forums are not covered, and as I don't read them I need to know who would be a good choice, wants to do the job for free.
Please PM me.
great idea..... i vote yay to this motion
Yeah, the FTP should be locked except for an upload folder, and users should not be able to delete from that folder, that deleting and reorganising should be leave for the mods. I was fortunate to download the files that I needed for a ROM update (the anansky 27Mb Magician ROM update) before the onslaught began. Give other users the chance many of us have had.
Hi guys,
I think we should make a 'database', e.g. an excel table or something else, in which we add alle the 1234567_manila-Files and what they are standing for (friendly file name like "HTC\Asset\Images\background.qtc") and maybe some keywords in an extra column like "home, background", etc.
I think this would make it much easier to work with the manila-files, because I always forgot what a file was standing for after a few days
Greets,
Sascha
I have only just started getting into editing Manila but I certainly agree that it's a good idea. As I'm still only at the beginning, I can contribute serverhostspace for the DB and I'll hopefully be able to contribute with actual content later on.
If someone has a ready script for an MDB or an SQL or whatever else I am ready to host it and make it interactive to receive input from anyone who discovers something new
Nice suggestion and worthy
That a work for all of us.
i agree on this, ill whip up a simple website that people can input details about each file in a gridview.
ill post a link hopefully tomorrow
Why don't use our beautiful WIKI?
Just created a page here!
regards
demacus said:
Why don't use our beautiful WIKI?
Just created a page here!
regards
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Yes, using the WIKI here as the primary site and you can always put it somewhere else as a mirror.
HI to all developers on XDA ! I hope you all are fine! I just wanted to request you guys that If possible then can you upload your future roms to megaupload ??? because it has got resume support! you know on unreliable connections its very risky to download files greater than 100mb without resume support!
Myself and a lot of other people around here will be very thankful to all of you!
Anything that's not RapidShare is great, because they always seem to be “full”.
the reason we upload to rapidshare is so we can get points for the downloads of our files, which we can convert to getting us premium priviledges, it will allow us to store the files on the server till the premium status expires.
mediafire ftw
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mediafire ftw
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I've files on my MediaFire account since it began, waaaay back
http://www.multiupload.com/ or torrent
Or, like regular developers, we could upload them to sites actually meant for hosting code, sourceforge, github etc.
If We try then everything is possible! Anyways all other file hosts EXCEPT RAPIDSHARE are GREAT!!! Atleast BETTER than rapidshare.
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the reason we upload to rapidshare is so we can get points for the downloads of our files, which we can convert to getting us premium priviledges, it will allow us to store the files on the server till the premium status expires.
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Can't argue with that.
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Can't argue with that.
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Yeah, you can argue with it. Rapidshare is so slow and unstable that every time I want to download anything from there I just wanna hang myself
using BETA 3 right now, all things work great, but little bit slow.
also the Chinese working fine and Chinese input is also fine.
just can not as its' original use chinese to search in phone function...
it still great.
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Yeah, you can argue with it. Rapidshare is so slow and unstable that every time I want to download anything from there I just wanna hang myself
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I can't use repidshare either, it never lets me connect, but some people use it fine, especially if you are a premium user.
georgeskydiver said:
using BETA 3 right now, all things work great, but little bit slow.
also the Chinese working fine and Chinese input is also fine.
just can not as its' original use chinese to search in phone function...
it still great.
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Hi I think you posted this in the wrong topic, but welcome to the forums
well Rapidshare are adding 10 new gigabit ports and 200 servers, which will sort out free users gettings their speeds and queues clogged up, it'll be fixed for you guys soon
EDIT: oh, they will be finished and ready march
hillbilly99 said:
Yeah, you can argue with it. Rapidshare is so slow and unstable that every time I want to download anything from there I just wanna hang myself
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try jdownloader. java cross platform, set it up and hav it running in tray. whenever you come across a rs link just copy it to clipboard, open jdownloader and confirm, then just wait, no more interaction. you don't even have to open the rapidshare website in your browser.
edit: works for ~100 hosters, not only rapidshare. really great tool, i use it at the time.
Hi all developers!
One thing I have thought about for a while is, why do you upload ROMs and other files to uploading sites like Rapidshare? For me who doesn't have a Rapidshare Premium account this means a lot of waiting.
Just thinking, why not create a torrent of the files? I suppose 99% of everyone here has a torrent client, and if not, uTorrent is not that hard to install .
This would also help the speeds alot, I would at least happily help you seed the files here on my 100/100 fibre connection.
Just some thoughts..
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Also I would like to say thanks to all you developers, you do a great job!
Because downloading torrents to phone would be harder than just downloading the files from a FTP or a hosting site!
Just my opinion...
i think thats a good idea!
hate rapidshare n all those sites.....most of the time i download the file on my computer anyway n then transfer it to my sd...
BlackLine7 said:
Because downloading torrents to phone would be harder than just downloading the files from a FTP or a hosting site!
Just my opinion...
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This. I personally download ROM's straight to my phone, unless I can be arsed to edit them first. The wait of 40 seconds to download a file is nothing really. Plus using the author's Rapidshare accounts could actually benefit them.
diego4t said:
i think thats a good idea!
hate rapidshare n all those sites.....most of the time i download the file on my computer anyway n then transfer it to my sd...
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Yea same here, never thought about downloading to the phone directly tbh. So much easier to do on the computer .
Still, why not use both? The torrent would at least be a great mirror.
It would be really show for the first few people downloading the file, then a lot of people would just download the torrent and not upload anything so it would end up downloading at the upload speed of the creator
Plus it means a lot more uploading
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It would be really show for the first few people downloading the file, then a lot of people would just download the torrent and not upload anything so it would end up downloading at the upload speed of the creator
Plus it means a lot more uploading
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QFT!
Also not all developers have huge upload speed
why not create a DC++ hub?
those were the days...
donald-c said:
It would be really show for the first few people downloading the file, then a lot of people would just download the torrent and not upload anything so it would end up downloading at the upload speed of the creator
Plus it means a lot more uploading
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Well thats just bad behaviour by the leechers then...
The good thing with torrents is that the developer don't have to seed at all, just provide the .torrent. Then someone who downloaded it elsewhere can seed it for him (or her.. ). Like I said, I can provide 100 mbit/s up speed at my home and I am sure a lot of other users here would help out too
To be fair, it's a lot of hassle for developers to set it up on a tracker to just get downloads.
File hosts like RapidShare and MediaFire etc, you're always going to get a good download speed so what difference does waiting 30-40 seconds make?
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To be fair, it's a lot of hassle for developers to set it up on a tracker to just get downloads.
File hosts like RapidShare and MediaFire etc, you're always going to get a good download speed so what difference does waiting 30-40 seconds make?
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Hehe, I'm maxing out like 100-200 KB/s from Rapidshare and nearly 12 MB/s using torrents...
I'm sorry but I can't see the problem, it is definetly not more work to create a .torrent file (just use a public tracker). The .torrent file is so small that it won't be a problem to host it somewhere, maybe even directly on the forum.
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why not create a DC++ hub?
those were the days...
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Cause that would mean a lot of people just downloading from the developer. With a .torrent you could spread out the files in a much better way and distribute the bandwidth.
But like I said, these are just mine $(2*10^-2)...
ginux_ said:
Hi all developers!
One thing I have thought about for a while is, why do you upload ROMs and other files to uploading sites like Rapidshare? For me who doesn't have a Rapidshare Premium account this means a lot of waiting.
Just thinking, why not create a torrent of the files? I suppose 99% of everyone here has a torrent client, and if not, uTorrent is not that hard to install .
This would also help the speeds alot, I would at least happily help you seed the files here on my 100/100 fibre connection.
Just some thoughts..
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Also I would like to say thanks to all you developers, you do a great job!
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Torrent programs are usually banned from work computers.. I use a work laptop as my primary machine, so I wouldn't be able to get those..
-m
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why not create a DC++ hub?
those were the days...
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And still are. Still have a few pvt hubs I'm in for audio stuff
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johnnychimpo said:
And still are. Still have a few pvt hubs I'm in for audio stuff
Sent from my PC36100
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i'd ask for an invite but im a leech!
BlackLine7 said:
QFT!
Also not all developers have huge upload speed
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Wouldn't matter, first upload the torrent to a (few) seedbox(es) (community will happily provide these I suppose). Once its done, turbo speed for everyone.
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To be fair, it's a lot of hassle for developers to set it up on a tracker to just get downloads.
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http://openbittorrent.com/
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Wouldn't matter, first upload the torrent to a (few) seedbox(es) (community will happily provide these I suppose). Once its done, turbo speed for everyone.
"openbittorrent"
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Thanks, both these things are what I was thinking about
I have a computer in a wardrobe working only as file/torrent server so there is at least one seed box for the community.
I am a new member so I had to delete the link from your post, dough.
Well - back up a few months i tried to do exactly that. I seeded the Villain files until 4-5 had it, and because every one else's connection was better than mine ppl didnt download from me anymore - and speed would pick up on the file across P2P
I used uTorrent and created the torrent from within that program and uploaded the torrent to my own website - worked a charm once i had all the settings right...
i think it's a good idea - if not then as a mirror for the RS and Mediafire websites...
Once a couple of 100 mbit upload has gotten hold of the file it will be fast!!!
Smirge
Aren't you guys jumping the gun a bit on this? How about selecting another provider? Rarhost, dropbox, Adrive.com are other free alternatives Ive used in the past.
Or even Google Sites/Code/Doc etc
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Aren't you guys jumping the gun a bit on this? How about selecting another provider? Rarhost, dropbox, Adrive.com are other free alternatives Ive used in the past.
Or even Google Sites/Code/Doc etc
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Maybe we are
Just thought that torrents has some benefits and could be considered... Nice to hear all your opinions
Wuala can be a good alternative to rapidshare or megaupload, it has 2GB for free, or you can share your HD free space for add free space to your account on Wuala. Also can be possible do a groups for sharing, on HTCMania we have created one for files for HTC Desire and another for APKs
http://www.wuala.com/HTC_Desire
http://www.wuala.com/APKs_Android
Everyone can access from web, or using Wuala client using Windows/Linux/Mac and with notifications for new files added.
It is really sad because most links for not so old ROMs are DEAD. Most of them were stored on MegaUpload, which is totally dead.
Sincerely, I am really surprised that NO ONE of the ROM-masters bothers to create a torrent for their ROM. WHY? Don't you want your work to be alive and well?
I don't really know if it is permitted to publish here links to torrent files, but I think that torrent is a contemporary technology, and if used right is a huge improvement on WORK SHARE for those who has a talent in something worth.
Starting from this post I want to publish some link to torrent-files of ROMs, that were checked on real devices.
1. Aurora ROM v5: Aurora_v5.zip.torrent
(Now downloading the fresh v6, will release a torrent when it's done, the Hotfile.com gives only about 80kb/sec download)
Edit: Aurora_v6_SE.zip.torrent
2. RevolutioN v3.0: RevolutioN.xMas.Edition.v3.0.A2SD%2B-signed.zip.torrent
P.S.: And again my word for ROM-makers - if you want people to enjoy your work, it is in your hands. Give them a good link, an alive one.
Torrents always need a seed. As soon as the need for the Rom disappears, so do the seeds. Then its just a .torrent file pointing to an empty tracker
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rootSU said:
Torrents always need a seed. As soon as the need for the Rom disappears, so do the seeds. Then its just a .torrent file pointing to an empty tracker
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Is it very hard for ROM-maker to seed 5-6 versions, or the only last 2 versions of his work?
And, in the torrent files, when you create them, you may enter web-seeds, the direct link to the file on some server. Do someone need a hosting? I can host about 50 roms! And I can seed them at home as torrents. Is it something hard in our days?!
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Is it very hard for ROM-maker to seed 5-6 versions, or the only last 2 versions of his work?
And, in the torrent files, when you create them, you may enter web-seeds, the direct link to the file on some server. Do someone need a hosting? I can host about 50 roms! And I can seed them at home as torrents. Is it something hard in our days?!
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What, forever? Get a grip man!!!
..and why rely on technology that isps and work places treat as illegal and block / throttle. Ftp is the best way forward. Torrents are old hat. Didn't know.people still used.it ha ha
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Do you think, that relying on some slow and questionable upload sites is better?
This is about a week that I've decided to flash some new ROM on my wife's Desire, and I have been trying to download for some days! 99% of the links are dead!
If someone from ROM-masters want to host their ROMS on my server, welcome! I have about 20GB free and 1,5TB of bandwidth monthly. And I have an Internet at home, I can seed them. In our time it is possible, you know?
Why no one has proposed a help like this? Is it illegal somehow? Just think about Ubuntu and others - they give a torrent to the community.
P.S.: And if you have blocked torrents at work, or even at home (that is nonsence!) you always can use some online services, that download torrents for you and give you a direct link.
Thank you if you are willing to help developers host their roms. But developers would proactively update their download links if they really want to keep their work alive. If they don't then they probably moved on to something else or doesn't care at all or both.
They don't owe us anything for they do this thing on their own terms. They are grateful for every donation but that doesn't mean that they owe you support. It's a donation not a pay for service.
2cents.
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Thank you if you are willing to help developers host their roms. But developers would proactively update their download links if they really want to keep their work alive. If they don't then they probably moved on to something else or doesn't care at all or both.
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Just look there: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1268279
There is a new release of the ROM today, but it is on hotfile.com, that is giving only 50-70kb/s speed! It takes forever to download. Is it very hard for developer to make a torrent file and seed it? I understand that they don't owe me anything, but should the people choose the better way to distribute their work?
If that's what they can offer or if that's their preference then who am I to complain? I am just a leecher. Yes it would be a pain to download. I don't prefer torrents tbh and I can also go and say "Is it very hard for developer to make upload this to mediafire hotfile?"
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If that's what they can offer or if that's their preference then who am I to complain? I am just a leecher. Yes it would be a pain to download. I don't prefer torrents tbh and I can also go and say "Is it very hard for developer to make upload this to mediafire hotfile?"
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Is it hard for someone else make a torrent? Is it hard to mention it in the topic?
I am willing to help in that manner, why others do not?
Well no one is stopping you from helping them out in that department and I bet the devs would appreciate it.
As for me, I still prefer file hosting sites as with the majority of people here I guess. I really don't wanna go and install a torrent client on my laptop anyway.
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Well no one is stopping you from helping them out in that department and I bet the devs would appreciate it.
As for me, I still prefer file hosting sites as with the majority of people here I guess. I really don't wanna go and install a torrent client on my laptop anyway.
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It's a pity that I have no rights to post in dev-topics yet. I will try to make a big topic here, post more torrent links for now...
You don't have a torrent client installed? It's hard to imagine in what swamp you are living
Never really had any reason to install one. I'm not into too much downloading stuff anyway.
You only need 4 more post. So you'll prolly be posting there in a bit.
stankyou said:
Thank you if you are willing to help developers host their roms. But developers would proactively update their download links if they really want to keep their work alive. If they don't then they probably moved on to something else or doesn't care at all or both.
They don't owe us anything for they do this thing on their own terms. They are grateful for every donation but that doesn't mean that they owe you support. It's a donation not a pay for service.
2cents.
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I don't even ask donations.... and mattman donates me (and others) ftp space that he pays for, for nothing.
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Added torrent for RevolutioN.xMas.Edition.v3.0 in first post. Didn't try on wife's Desire. Will try sometime later
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I don't even ask donations.... and mattman donates me (and others) ftp space that he pays for, for nothing.
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May be you need a torrent for your works? I can make some, seed and host. Just PM me if you'd like.
Thank you for the offer but no need. I will put up a mirror if ftp fails. I like to track download statistics myself
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Only two more posts Rever! You've done well out of this (pointless?) debate
Personally I think this is a good idea. I already use this method for testing and distributing Linux distros.
of course if the ROM is open source which all Android roms should be then there is plenty of good free hosting specifically for open source projects. Two I can think of being Google code and Sourceforge
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BTW: Can anyone advice other good roms, that will be good to release as torrents?
Hmm Aurora v6; 1 hotfile, 2 live mirrors not much need of torrent there.
Just hope u ask the Devs first.