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Contacts / Edit before dialing a phone number

Hi everyone... I am new to the PPC world... being just recently swatch from my Treo600 to a new XDA2s, I am having a little difficulty getting used to the Microsoft way of doing things in PPC2003... I am just wondering is there anyone who can help me or point me to the right direction where I can get some external program that can help me from going insane... here's my problem... I usually keep a huge contact list with all my customer, supplier, co-worker, family and friends contact all in my PDA... so the usual way for me to make a phone call is to search it from the contact list... but here's my problem, I travel alot with my job and depending on my current location, I have to edit the number in my contact before I dial the number... in my old palm, I can simply edit the number before I dial that number (there's a funtion on my palm that allows you to edit before call... so it allows me to edit the number without physically changing the number in my contact list)... I am just wondering can PPC do that? Or is there any program in PPC that will allow me to do that? As far as I can see... in PPC, as soon as I have search for a contact and then I click on his or her number with my stylist... it will automatically dial... I can not edit it before I dial... the only way I can edit it before I dial is to physically edit the contacts... which is very annoying as I sync my contacts with my exchange server, I don't wanna to have to have all my contact get mess up with different area code and dialling code from different country... anyone know how can I solve this problem? Thanks for your help in advance... I very much appriciate all of your advice in advance... Peter

I think the most straightforwards solution here is to store all of your numbers in the international dialling format; that way, wherever you are, your device will place the call correctly
For example - if I had a contact in Glasgow, UK, it would be stored as +44141xxxxxxx (+44 for UK, 141 for Glasgow and the remaining seven digits as the local number)
In my experience whenever I have been abroad, any calls to any of my stored numbers are placed correctly first time by either my SmartPhone or PPC.
If you're problem is regarding a slightly different issue then please expand on your problem by detailing what you mean by "modifying" your contact before you dial.

My problem is a little bit more complicated I think... I already has most number stored in the international dialing format... but my problem is that, depending on my location, I have to dial a certian set of numbers in front of the phone number to be dial in order for me to save on long distance and roaming... for example, while I am roaming in Mainland China if I want to dial home in Hong Kong with my mobile... normally, I will dial 0085226****88 but that will cost me like USD2 per minute... but if I dial with a prefix of 17909 (hence I will type in: 179090085226****88) then my per minute charge will now be something like USD0.10 per minute... which is a huge saving especially when I make roaming and long distance call all the time... the same thing in Hong Kong, if I dial 1666 before I dial long distance, I will get a much higher savings over regular long distance... my problem is that I can not possibly store all of these information for all the locations that I am going to be in, each places that I am going to be in, have a different sets of number... so is there any intellegent way to add additional numbers in front of the number stored in the contacts before it is being dialed in pocket pc? I know on my old palm... I can solve this problem in two ways... 1) I can set a certain dialing prefix before the system dial any number (normally I leave that blank, as I prefer edit before dial function)... I can use this prefix function but it will require me to change the prefix when I am at a different location but it is a workable solutions... is there something like that in PPC? 2) The second way to solve this was the edit before dialing function on the palm... I just click on the number, it allows me to edit the number temporary before it is automatically paste onto the phone software and before the phone dials it...
Anyway, I know this is very complicated and it is a very rare issues thats probably just affecting me or a very small number of users... but it will be great if there's some simple solutions to this... but I think this problem is mainly due to the lack of flexiblilty in the contact list rather then the function of the phone itself! :O) Anyway, thank you very much for your help and suggestions again... very much appriciate it :O) Peter

Try if this works
http://www.handango.com/Platform ... sp?productId=152403

Can you please post the link again? It doesn't work :O) Thanks for your help :O) What kind of program is it? :O)

here's the link
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you got it all wrong
... if you ask me: your approach is wrong. Here are the basics. Windows XP, for instance and Outlook, that is the source of the contacts (and phone numbers and other details that are entered), stores phone numbers in this 'international' format:
country code (MS has a list of countries and codes of its own)
are code (another, separate field) and
number
If you respect the fields provided by Outlook then you get a number generated by Outlook that looks like this:
+381 (064) 6185250
THIS is the 'correct' international format recognised by Microsoft Phone Dialer (well not actually MS but Active Voice, but that is a completely different issue)
My point is that +448704364673 is NOT a correct international phormat, because MS cannot differentiate between the international country code and long distance (area code) and therefore the phone dialer cannot parse the numbers correctly.
NOW, how to get the system to know WHERE you are and should it use the area code when dialing or you are in the area your friend is, or you want to call a toll free number that is in 'another' area, or you are dialing a client abroad etc. Well, there is the 'Dialing Rules' settings! THERE you create a profile (home, office, abroad etc.) and provide the area code for the dialer to differentiate...
This is all well with the Windows XP/Outlook 2002+ I know well, BUT when it comes to PPC... sorry, I have the same problem...>
FACTS:
fact no. 1: Outlook separates phone numbers in groups of>
country code
long distance code (area code)
number
fact no. 2: phone numbers entered this way are stored in a format>
+381 (064) 6185250
fact no. 2: Microsoft Phone Dialer recognises this number and dials correctly
via a voice modem... (headset or speaker/mike required)
Question: what hapens when contacts entered this way into Outlook are sunchronized with the
Pocket PC (Windows Mobile 5.0)?
Answer : all contact's numbers are entered into the Contacts list in the 'correct' format.
(the same format with the bracket, as is noted in PC Outlook)
My findings: the problem arrises when you use your mobile capable Pocket PC
(i.e. the super cool Qtek 9000) and try to dial someone on to his mobile or office phone that are on another
area code...
the Pocket PC, or Windows Mobile 'Phone dialer' dials EXACTLY
as the number is entered in the above mentioned format
(the mobile operator recognises the + at the beggining of the number, but
does not understand the spaces and the brackets!!! and offcourse
the mobile operator returns an error voice message that a wrong number has been dialed!
What am I to do?
Can I find/download/install a proper phone dialer (i.e. MS Phone Dialer) that comes with Windows?
Phone Dialer 1.5
Developed for Microsoft by Active Voice
http://www.activevoice.com/dialer
bottom line is that CISCO systems aquired this Phone Dialer in 2001 and Active Voice discontinued developing/supporting whit app. (link on the Active Voice site is outdated and no support on MS site, as well)
(please do not post solutions as: "you should reformat your number entries etc. because I have 800+ contacts and counting...)
P.S. what I gathered is that this is not device related it is just OS and app related. I had the same problem with my previous Nokia phone... (I did not solve. Actually I thought I will solve with this device...)
I've set the Dialing Rules with my country code and area code (Mobile etc.) So, I don't have a clue what am I doung wrong

Voicemail notification not the same as my old Nokia phone ??

Have only had my Xda11s for a week and am very pleased with it except for voicemail notification.
I like to get straight back to customers who leave voicemails, but unlike my old Nokia phone which used to leave both a text message AND phone me back several times, my Xda11s has only been leaving text messages which if I am driving, I do not always notice.
I have been into the 901 options and selected "Voice notification" now I get nothing back at all to tell me somebody has left a message (tried it by leaving a message myself).
Any one have any bright ideas why this is or how I can get both a text message and a phone call back from 901 please?

Sorry to answer myself, but having left a second messgae to myself, voicemail did phone back so perhaps it takes 5 or 10 minutes to activate itself.
No text message though, so I presume you can only have one or the other with O2 on Xda's?
Does anybody know if you can have both?

I'm no expert as I don't use voice-mail, but such features are network dependant. In other words, it's the network (O2 or whoever) that calls you back or sends a text, not the phone. The phone merely allows you to change the settings without calling your network provider. If it isn't allowing you to set it up as you wish, you have two options.
One, read your network guide where there will be a list of commands you can use via your phone to change settings (often in the form *# Number number #) or
Two, phone your network provider and ask someone to set up your account to do this for you.

Calls to this number are bard

Hello forum
I’m having issues retrieving voice mail by pressing the relevant button 1.
Each time press 1 for voice mail I get a warning tone saying “Calls to this number are bard” the only way to retrieve voicemail is to dial 222 via the service provider’s options.
I’ve been in contact with my network provider and have had the voice mail set up but I still can’t access voice mail. Can some one help please?

Hi, I really dont know much about your network, but in order for dialing "1" to access my voicemail to work, I had to enter my voicemail number under 1 in speed dial.
Im not sure if you have already done that, or if youre running an oem rom, you may not have to, is it dialing the correct number, when you press "1"?
Also under "settings" / "phone" / "services" tab, you can select to retrieve voicemail, and txt settings....not sure of that may help either.
Sorry if you have already covered this, I just know its easy to overlook things at times, and thought I might suggest it, hope you get your problem sorted.

call to this number are bard.
Thanks for the advice; I’ve actually tried that method the first time I was in contact with service provider T-mobile and it didn’t work. T -mobile push the problem to HTC as the manufacture of the unit. I was in contact with HTC, but the very nice and helpful tech support lady concluded its t-mobile problem. Currently stuck in between.

I'm experiencing the same thing. You can run the programe called "Interactive". Select voice service then call voicemail. A message will ask you if you want to call voicemail, tap yes and it calls. It's an around the house way of doing it, but i know of no other solution right now.
BTW i have a vario III on t-mobile.

Ok i think i've worked it out I was having the same problem.
As from the previous post....when in phone select/ "Menu"/ "Options" in "settings" you'll see a "services" tab,select that then you can select to retrieve voicemail, and txt settings.
Check the voicemail number...I notice that the phone or t-mobile added 050 to the number. If you have something similar you need to remove it. You voicemail number should be you number with +44 at the start, with the first "0" removed and the rest of your number. Eg if your number was:
07951123456
its should read +447951123456
I did this and it works fine.If it works for you maybe you could pass the information onto on to T-mobile.
Hope that helps.
BTW i have a vario III on t-mobile.

rizzla1280 said:
Ok i think i've worked it out I was having the same problem.
As from the previous post....when in phone select/ "Menu"/ "Options" in "settings" you'll see a "services" tab,select that then you can select to retrieve voicemail, and txt settings.
Check the voicemail number...I notice that the phone or t-mobile added 050 to the number. If you have something similar you need to remove it. You voicemail number should be you number with +44 at the start, with the first "0" removed and the rest of your number. Eg if your number was:
07951123456
its should read +447951123456
I did this and it works fine.If it works for you maybe you could pass the information onto on to T-mobile.
Hope that helps.
BTW i have a vario III on t-mobile.
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Where did you get the device?? What ROM is it running? pretty sure the 050 might have been added by the ROM or national on the OS. The network should report the full international number (ie the +44xxxxxxxxxxx number).

he is right
rizzla1280 said:
Ok i think i've worked it out I was having the same problem.
As from the previous post....when in phone select/ "Menu"/ "Options" in "settings" you'll see a "services" tab,select that then you can select to retrieve voicemail, and txt settings.
Check the voicemail number...I notice that the phone or t-mobile added 050 to the number. If you have something similar you need to remove it. You voicemail number should be you number with +44 at the start, with the first "0" removed and the rest of your number. Eg if your number was:
07951123456
its should read +447951123456
I did this and it works fine.If it works for you maybe you could pass the information onto on to T-mobile.
Hope that helps.
BTW i have a vario III on t-mobile.
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the way he said its fine,i have done the same
coz when u installed the rom they added sum extra nos
in between +44 and ur no like 7931361234
just remove that 3 nos in between and then
it will work proper ...

mrvanx said:
Where did you get the device?? What ROM is it running? pretty sure the 050 might have been added by the ROM or national on the OS. The network should report the full international number (ie the +44xxxxxxxxxxx number).
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I bought it off Ebay. It's running wm6.1, i'm sure it said in the description that it was a HTC Rom, could be wrong ( HTC website is the default site in IE )...but the inital problem is easily sortable.
ps. +44 is the code for the uk, other countries would have different codes, so remember to take that into consideration.

rizzla1280 said:
Ok i think i've worked it out I was having the same problem.
As from the previous post....when in phone select/ "Menu"/ "Options" in "settings" you'll see a "services" tab,select that then you can select to retrieve voicemail, and txt settings.
Check the voicemail number...I notice that the phone or t-mobile added 050 to the number. If you have something similar you need to remove it. You voicemail number should be you number with +44 at the start, with the first "0" removed and the rest of your number. Eg if your number was:
07951123456
its should read +447951123456
I did this and it works fine.If it works for you maybe you could pass the information onto on to T-mobile.
Hope that helps.
BTW i have a vario III on t-mobile.
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A thanks guy the directions has resolved the issue and I can now dial number one on hemers to retrieve voice mail. As you quite rightly said three digits added in the set of numbers for the voice mail (060) This is what I did START =>SETTINGS=>PHONE=>SERVICES=> high light VOICE MAIL AND TEXT MESSAGE=> click GET SETTINGS=> check the voice mail numbers for any unusual among the set of voice mail numbers.

Contacts - option to send SMS to landlines

In older versions of Android when a contact had multiple telephone numbers you could only send an SMS to their mobile number.
In 2.1 ALL numbers (including landlines) have the option to be used for sending an SMS. This makes the list really long if you have several numbers (home, work, mobile etc) because you can call or SMS each of them.
Also, when you compose an SMS and type in the "To" box, all the numbers show up there as well.
Both of these make it more difficult to pick the right number, as I found out earlier when I accidentally sent an SMS to a landline.
Are others seeing this, and if so, has anyone got a way to stop it abd revert to only show "Send message" to the mobile number?
zippyioa

Use Handcent SMS. There you can toggle the "Show mobile numbers only".

Already for several years sending and receiving SMS on a landline can be done. This may depend on your provider, the country you are in, and of course the phone itself. Some providers even offer an automatic text-to-voice service for this. All this may help explain why the distinction is fading, or even absent in this case.
If anything it should be an option to configure 'SMS allowed' for each number, and perhaps not for all landlines together. Google Android team, are you reading this?

Zappza said:
Use Handcent SMS. There you can toggle the "Show mobile numbers only".
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Thanks, I will take a look at it. That would solve the issue when composing an SMS. The long list of options in People will still be there though, which makes it harder to find the right number when calling.
It's not a huge issue, it's just different to what I was used to. I am sure I'll get used to it!

doggie123 said:
Already for several years sending and receiving SMS on a landline can be done. This may depend on your provider, the country you are in, and of course the phone itself. Some providers even offer an automatic text-to-voice service for this. All this may help explain why the distinction is fading, or even absent in this case.
If anything it should be an option to configure 'SMS allowed' for each number, and perhaps not for all landlines together. Google Android team, are you reading this?
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I know you can send an SMS to landlines, we used to have the voice of Tom Baker (Little Britain narrator) for a while which was really funny, especially the words "balls". It's not something I ever use now though.
I agree, its something the Google team should look at!
How do others feel about it.... would you hide the option to SMS to landlines if you could?

[Q] Anyone else get weird phone numbers in texts?

I looked around and found similar-ish issues but not quite the same... I have a VZ GN and normally it works well, I get texts with just "Contact Name (number of texts)" but ever so often I will get a text with "Contact Name (xxx) xxx-xxxx" where the phone number is nothing even close to correct - weird area codes especially. then I'll have two threads from the same contact - one correct but one bizarre.
I've added the phone number to the contact in the past and it doesn't come back, but now I'm really starting to wonder WHY this is happening in the first place.
Thoughts?

chjade84 said:
I looked around and found similar-ish issues but not quite the same... I have a VZ GN and normally it works well, I get texts with just "Contact Name (number of texts)" but ever so often I will get a text with "Contact Name (xxx) xxx-xxxx" where the phone number is nothing even close to correct - weird area codes especially. then I'll have two threads from the same contact - one correct but one bizarre.
I've added the phone number to the contact in the past and it doesn't come back, but now I'm really starting to wonder WHY this is happening in the first place.
Thoughts?
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Texting through Google Voice (them, not you) will change the displayed and received phone number.

adrynalyne said:
Texting through Google Voice (them, not you) will change the displayed and received phone number.
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Excellent thought, however only I and one friend use GV - the rest do not even know what it is lol.

chjade84 said:
Excellent thought, however only I and one friend use GV - the rest do not even know what it is lol.
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If you're using the stock SMS app (rather than the Google Voice app) to send/receive text messages (using your Google Voice number), you'll see exactly what you're describing. The number you see will basically be a forwarding number used by Google to get your message to the right person.
From what I've seen, the number will be unique to each contact, but won't have anything to do with their actual number. Everything will be correct on their end though, and your messages will be exchanged with the correct recipient.

codesplice said:
If you're using the stock SMS app (rather than the Google Voice app) to send/receive text messages (using your Google Voice number), you'll see exactly what you're describing. The number you see will basically be a forwarding number used by Google to get your message to the right person.
From what I've seen, the number will be unique to each contact, but won't have anything to do with their actual number. Everything will be correct on their end though, and your messages will be exchanged with the correct recipient.
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Right, and I am using the stock SMS app - but I don't think I'm using GV. The only thing I use it for is visual voicemail (forward all calls to GV which then get routed back to my phone) but I have it set so all my calls use my regular number. People don't text me on my GV number... I don't think...
Hmmm...

chjade84 said:
Right, and I am using the stock SMS app - but I don't think I'm using GV. The only thing I use it for is visual voicemail (forward all calls to GV which then get routed back to my phone) but I have it set so all my calls use my regular number. People don't text me on my GV number... I don't think...
Hmmm...
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You can check at http://voice.google.com. If you see the messages there, they were sending them to your GV number.

codesplice said:
You can check at http://voice.google.com. If you see the messages there, they were sending them to your GV number.
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Ah-ha!
Indeed they were... Not too sure how someone who sends me texts every couple days all of a sudden uses my GV number that's been stored in their phone for months, but at least I know what's going on.
Thanks!

chjade84 said:
Ah-ha!
Indeed they were... Not too sure how someone who sends me texts every couple days all of a sudden uses my GV number that's been stored in their phone for months, but at least I know what's going on.
Thanks!
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If I ever delete all messages and then when I go to send a message to someone who has multiple numbers saved I have no idea which # to send a message to. That is prob what happened.