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I had been used to then making roms for my Windows Mobile phone to download the language packs for the rom. But found that a socalled MS Internet Investigator had threatend the poster of these packages to remove them.
I wonder do you thinks that Microsoft will kill this site one day?
Well, certainly, the site will live as there is a lot of free (copyrighted ) software here, developed by XDA members. It is not only about WM6.5.
As for it, you still have China . ROMBeta for example. Or probably the takedown was a hoax.
IMHO MS just used us . They read the thread to get to know about bugs of their recent builds. All we were their free testers. And now, as WM6.5 is officially out, it is a copyrighted product, and we don't have permission to do smth unless we buy it.
I do not like when I am used in such a rude manner, so I will continue using my Diamond, and when it breaks, make sure to buy an Android phone from HTC .
Of course all these words are rubbish, if it was a hoax and we will continue experiencing WM6.5 .
Sensitive material: the xda-developers point of view.
Quote taken from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1104604&postcount=1
"However with increased popularity comes an increased amount of legal complaints when sensitive material is found on our servers. Which is the reason why we have been more careful lately. Recently some sensitive material has shown up on the servers and we received legal complaints from companies who have the copyrights for this material, although we all feel this is very interesting and valuable material we cannot risk the future of xda-developers by ignoring the legal requests we receive, therefore this material has been taken offline."
yeah, they care more about keeping their cashcrop site up than the actual users. there aint no reason they couldnt rapidshare them files and post the new links in the thread, see the entire blueangel/wallaby sections. its all ftp links that are dead.
i'm sure i'll catch heat for my pro-user point of view here, but the fact remains they make more than enough money on this site to buy a decent server that doesnt take 30seconds to load, and maybe not removing the only link to a file leaving people completely SOL.
ms won't do anything to xda. xda sells more WM phones than ms could ever do alone, i know this because its 90% of the reason why i own as many HTCs as i do.
i love xda, but the management irks me. and the disorganization of it.
Not this garbage again!!
Are we sure that this "internet investigator" is real now? The last time it was some punk saying that they represented M$ and because of him, a bunch of roms ended up being taken down (even if they were not hosted in the xda servers.
I am so tired of this crap it isn't even funny...
@OneSman,
M$ isn't really using you since they are not offering you anything for free. You just happen to see it and use it. If you happen to report bugs, it is for the Chefs and not for M$ (however, they get to read your comments/reports as well). Don't expect any developer to give you any freebies simply because you are beta testing something. I still have to see the dev who does that.
@cerjam,
The management of XDA irks you? Why? If you are sent a letter from a company that has enough lawyers to sue you till the middle of next week, you will take corrective action. End of story... I think XDA's management is superb considering the amount of flow of information and users in this site.
Please lets not make another epic thread(s) for this "investigator" until we know it is a real M$ as$h0l3.
i own a few shady sites. i don't bend over for dmca or supposed emails from maybe some idiot from some company.
there is no reason they have to piss on the userbase like they do.
sure, i can see a problem hosting the **** in the xda-dev ftp. but it is irresponsible to the community to not have backups and to not make the files obtainable elsewhere.
point is they put ms and other pricks over their users. the people who make them money, who keep their site alive. there is no legal reason for them to bend over and just go OK /DELETE. specially without warning.
cerjam said:
i own a few shady sites. i don't bend over for dmca or supposed emails from maybe some idiot from some company.
there is no reason they have to piss on the userbase like they do.
sure, i can see a problem hosting the **** in the xda-dev ftp. but it is irresponsible to the community to not have backups and to not make the files obtainable elsewhere.
point is they put ms and other pricks over their users. the people who make them money, who keep their site alive. there is no legal reason for them to bend over and just go OK /DELETE. specially without warning.
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Don't get me wrong, I hate them as much as I can (and then some), but the site admins have to play it safe... because they have such a large user base, they have to ensure that the site will keep on going and that it won't be taken down. I do agree about the back ups though...
playing it safe is fine. im just pissed off to no goddamn end, i buy any phone older than 2years? WELP SORRY MAN OUT OF LUCK BECAUSE MS EMAILED US =D
which is very very irksome, you have a blueangel you should understand lmfao
cerjam said:
yeah, they care more about keeping their cashcrop site up than the actual users. there aint no reason they couldnt rapidshare them files and post the new links in the thread, see the entire blueangel/wallaby sections. its all ftp links that are dead.
i'm sure i'll catch heat for my pro-user point of view here, but the fact remains they make more than enough money on this site to buy a decent server that doesnt take 30seconds to load, and maybe not removing the only link to a file leaving people completely SOL.
ms won't do anything to xda. xda sells more WM phones than ms could ever do alone, i know this because its 90% of the reason why i own as many HTCs as i do.
i love xda, but the management irks me. and the disorganization of it.
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Yeah, I suppose they could use RapidShare or something, but if they upload all their files all at once to RapidShare, that could lead a suspicious trail, and what are they gonna say? "MS E-mailed us, so we put all of our illegal files on RapidShare." Lighten up a bit. It's FAR better to have a website with all the tools to learn how to mod your own device and to try and find the files yourself (which I'm sure are out there), than to have the files for at most a few months or a year or so and then have this site, probably the best WM site in existence, completely go under. Besides, if people have to work to find the files, it'll make the end product feel that much nicer.
I don't know American Law (XDA is an American Site?)
But lets say it was in Denmark. But anyway. Here Microsoft would have to go to court and get a courtorder to make a website remove links that MS or any other feelt threatened their business.
Is the law different in the US?
/Fred
p.s. How does one become a payed Internet Investigator? I would love to have such a job insteed my current one
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I don't know American Law (XDA is an American Site?)
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Thanks no!
I think XDA is Neederlands
Microsoft kills Windows Mobile ?
It is possible that Windows Mobile 6.5 is the last and final Windows Mobile release from Microsoft.
In what you base for saying that?
WM7.................
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It is possible that Windows Mobile 6.5 is the last and final Windows Mobile release from Microsoft.
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Well, Many rumors are milling around for a WM7 and then WM7.1, I don't know the authenticity of this rumors, but couple of years back I heard a rumor that WM 6.5 is coming out.... so let's hope we get more upgrades, unless MS decided not to cash on WM mobiles. Will they?!
Shiv
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It is possible that Windows Mobile 6.5 is the last and final Windows Mobile release from Microsoft.
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Im pretty sure Steve Ballmer talked about windows mobile 7 in an interview so its kinda official just no time for release or anything yet
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Im pretty sure Steve Ballmer talked about windows mobile 7 in an interview so its kinda official just no time for release or anything yet
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There he is.
..i closed the tab without posting. damnit.
a) wm7s been confirmed. it's going to be ms's version of the iphones OS, the last decent WM was 5 before ms went all change-happy.
and b) ms couldnt prove anything. xda couldve setup a good data-hosting service that couldnt be traced. i imagine they make enough money off this site that they could do alot of things to make this site better.
and on that note, does anyone have any idea as to why whoever owns xda is too damn cheap to buy a decent server for xda. it's constantly slow and dead, i know damnwell they make massive money off donations and adcash. a decent server is maybe 1k a month, you're telling me theseguys are so broke they cant even put alittle of the community cash back into it?
sleurhut said:
It is possible that Windows Mobile 6.5 is the last and final Windows Mobile release from Microsoft.
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Microsoft confirms multi-touch, designates WM7 to high-end, while keeping WM 6.5 for mass market
http://www.unwiredview.com/2009/08/...igh-end-while-keeping-wm-6-5-for-mass-market/
cerjam said:
i imagine they make enough money off this site that they could do alot of things to make this site better.
and on that note, does anyone have any idea as to why whoever owns xda is too damn cheap to buy a decent server for xda. it's constantly slow and dead, i know damnwell they make massive money off donations and adcash. a decent server is maybe 1k a month, you're telling me theseguys are so broke they cant even put alittle of the community cash back into it?
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How much money do you think the owners make off of a site that runs on donations?
Most of the money is going to the developers on the site and not the owners I'm sure.
they have ads. with thousands of people per day. they make massive cash, i don't care what anyone says. at least enough to pay for a decent server.
Hi All.
I got a server with unlimited bandwidth and Storage so i thought i could start hosting all custom ROMs.
Just wanted to know what you all would think about it?
All ROMs at one location without the need for Rapidshare and such.
Upload account for developers and such.
UPDATE!
ROMn****.info will be the address
Working on design and functionality now, help is welcome
Developers send me a pm for ftp account
UPDATE Again!
Its up and running, beta design comeing up soon and developers starting to get accounts.
If you are a developer and interested, send me a pm
No one liked the idea? :O
l1nuxfre4k said:
Hi All.
I got a server with unlimited bandwidth and Storage so i thought i could start hosting all custom ROMs.
Just wanted to know what you all would think about it?
All ROMs at one location without the need for Rapidshare and such.
Upload account for developers and such.
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I'll be first then... I think it's a good idea!
Lots of people have trouble accessing Rapidshare (which some people seem to forget, or don't care about).
Well done you for offering to help people out!
Nice enough to offer but I don't think it's a good idea. Certain dev's normally host on RapidShare and/or another mirror that you don't have to wait to download.
You might get better responses if you post this in the dev forum. Or post a link in there pointing to this post.
Nice idea, try sending PM's to few most-known developers
Could you host me some roms for me for OpenRUU? See the link in my sig.
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Could you host me some roms for me for OpenRUU? See the link in my sig.
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sure no problem
I'l arrange something for you.
MSN
[email protected]
I would also love if someone thats good with design would help out a little.
i want to make it look good also ^^
also, domain names tips?
what to call the site?
l1nuxfre4k said:
also, domain names tips?
what to call the site?
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romdroid
droidroms
youporn<- favorite. not taken
youporn might attract to many people looking for porn?
more suggestions?
name dont have to do with roms just a good name.
Would maybe be better if not had anything to do with ROMs in the name
i can offer you free hosting & unlimited bandwidth
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i can offer you free hosting & unlimited bandwidth
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are you blind?
I already have that ...
and i have unlimited Storage....
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Not to put a damper on your parade but...
I don't think you'll be able to pull off a ROM hosting site on shared hosting. It's impossible.
Take me for example, I started a ROM hosting and indexing service about two weeks ago and it lasted three days before my costs skyrocketed and I was forced to close it down.
It took three weeks of development and four servers all with 2Gb combined uplink speed and in the end I paid out over €100 in three days because of the sheer popularity of the site.
Compare that with a shared hosting package on dreamhost and you'll see that bandwidth costs are prohibitively high to be usable. Dreamhost may advertise unlimited space and bandwidth but that is an utter lie. Ever hear of a fair usage policy?
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Not to put a damper on your parade but...
I don't think you'll be able to pull off a ROM hosting site on shared hosting. It's impossible.
Take me for example, I started a ROM hosting and indexing service about two weeks ago and it lasted three days before my costs skyrocketed and I was forced to close it down.
It took three weeks of development and four servers all with 2Gb combined uplink speed and in the end I paid out over €100 in three days because of the sheer popularity of the site.
Compare that with a shared hosting package on dreamhost and you'll see that bandwidth costs are prohibitively high to be usable. Dreamhost may advertise unlimited space and bandwidth but that is an utter lie. Ever hear of a fair usage policy?
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ofc i heard of it, same thing with mobile broadband...
Already double checked with my hosting.
AND its not shared hosting..
who sad it was?
A VPS, A Dedicated server... In the end it's on what it's hosted on that matters the most.
Unless your paying for an unmetered port your going to be charged quite a bit for the bandwidth no matter what they say about "unlimited bandwidth". Just a heads up.
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ofc i heard of it, same thing with mobile broadband...
Already double checked with my hosting.
AND its not shared hosting..
who sad it was?
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The simple fact you said unlimited bandwidth and storage means you don't have a dedicated server. If you think you have a dedicated server with unlimited hard drives, then this conversation ends here.
Therefore, by conclusion, abc27 is correct as you are sharing resources with someone else and will bottleneck the system (shared/reseller/VPS/VDS/cloud) or face severe throttling yourself.
Edit: DreamHost? Good luck! I genuinely hope it works out for you, but please please take offsite backups as soon as it goes live. If we're right, it won't be around for long.
No need to worry about that
I will always keep a backup and i got a Dedicated server comeing up within the next month.
and the current server will stay up.
already double/tripple checked with support
Working on a good deal for one with lots of storage and bandwidth
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Has XDA thought of the the idea of hosting uploads for devs?
Obviously there will be a cost of some kind due to bandwidth and space issues and I am not sure what xda site/server infrastructure consists of either or whether it could handle it.
I have been noticing alot of devs in a bind since latest issues with upload hosting companies getting shutdown or closing as well as dropbox and other means having bandwidth levels exceeded here over past weeks events.
There could be no copyrighted or pirated material and it would have to be monitored in some fashion in order not to jeopardize xda owners or the site.
Just a thought in trying to help users and devs out.
Thanks for listening to my far fetched idea.
XDA doesn't host roms due to possible legal issues. As Modding any OS other then AOSP is in violation of copyright rules. We slide by due to not hosting any roms here.
It would be nice, as lots of upload sites are closing (like megaupload, fileserve, ecc)
Well at least it would be useful to upload all things on multiupload so that you won't have problem in finding a download source, even if some hosters are closed...i noticed that many devs already do this, just spread the word
Free Hosting
Hello everyone:
I created a year ago WingedBox. It is a great place to upload files for free up to 4Gb.
Do not hesitate of registering and using it for Roms, Pits, Kernels and such.
We don´t penalize free members, you have full bandwith and no counter time before downloading.
Hope this helps!
With the demise of Megaupload and the discontinued sharing services of sites like Filesonic, 4Shared, Fileserve and Filepost, what will be the fate of sharing files for Android? I'm sure many sites will follow in the same footsteps as others so what would our alternatives be as a community?
All the other sites you named... They are being shut down as well?
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charlieb620 said:
All the other sites you named... They are being shut down as well?
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using XDA Premium App
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They have reverted to a system where you can only download what you yourself uploaded.
charlieb620 said:
All the other sites you named... They are being shut down as well?
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Most of them have totally disabled any type of file sharing and some have enabled only uploading and downloading your own content. Most other sites will probably do the same thing.
I doubt file sharing sites as we know it will disappear altogether. The problem with MegaUpload was that they were actually guilty as all hell and they knew it. Employee emails showed that they knew that most of their subscribers share copyrighted works and even the employees themselves would share pirated stuff with each other. That along with their size was why the feds went for them.
I suspect that the sites that have taken down their sharing features have the same problem (their internal communications show that they acknowledge and encourage piracy on their sites) so they are doing whatever they can to minimise the damage. Other sites have shut down their "uploader rewards programmes" which can be used against them in court to prove that they are encouraging and profiting directly from piracy.
Now what the smarter sites have to do is avoiding the mistakes that these sites have made and comply swiftly with takedown notices and stay under the radar. Because of the MU case we'll probably see a huge drop in pirated stuff on file sharing sites for a while (I'm sure many uploaders/subscribers of MU are getting cold feet since the feds pretty much now have all their details) but for legitimate users there really is nothing to worry about.
The only solution will be back to BBS, IRC and FTP server?
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After everything got censored, the DarkNet will emerge.
e.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freenet
After reading about Darknet, I feel like we need to start wearing neon outfits with spikes, drive around in battle cars and talk to martian woman with three boobies
I use Dropbox to host a lot of tweaking files. The links on my Downloads page are all served by Dropbox.
I also have Box and Minus accounts but have yet to use them. Wishing I grabbed the 50gb of Box storage when it was available
Not that I'm hosting pirated content but how does the Government's reach extend into servers like Dropbox, Box, and Minus?
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With the demise of Megaupload and the discontinued sharing services of sites like Filesonic, 4Shared, Fileserve and Filepost, what will be the fate of sharing files for Android? I'm sure many sites will follow in the same footsteps as others so what would our alternatives be as a community?
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Are you asking which sites would be best to pirate Android apps now that some file sharing sites are shutting down? Isn't that against the TOS of this site?
EP2008 said:
Are you asking which sites would be best to pirate Android apps now that some file sharing sites are shutting down? Isn't that against the TOS of this site?
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I'm pretty sure he is talking about ROMS and other mods, not illegal content.
Ftp's, irc and newsgroup's will be used to file share the same as before those http sites existed.
Dropbox is good, I use it all the time.
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**** Ripple said:
I'm pretty sure he is talking about ROMS and other mods, not illegal content.
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If the content is legal, there are hundreds of options for hosting and sharing files. Only those hosting illegal files need to worry.
Hello everyone,
There is a known issue that most cloud share sites like dropbox and box.net loose sharing due to bandwidth allocation issues.. with that said, I have a offer for you if you need to share development files here.
I am a technology solutions provider for the whole region where I live, (in the united states) and I offer you my personal site http://hazard1nc.com it has limited bandwidth for now, but the more people sign up for accounts using my link provided in the first post on my site, you will notice that it says it will give me more features, theses features include bandwidth and more storage, its my dream ultimately to self host but due to new baby being born and taking care of 6 people hinder such dreams for now.
So if you need storage and bandwidth, I rarely use my site as I'm busy running my business and being a family man, if I can help out with this, I'd be happy to do so! So thanks for reading and I hope that this can help you.
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Are you offering housing space for development?
I am offering a place to share, I don't have much to offer in terms of anyway to have a CVS repo or anything, but I am offering a place to put your final test projects for members both here and there to test on. If it was self hosted (money issues) I'd offer what more I could.
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Hell if you can make the site work for development purposes and give me feedback on plugins and such that I should add, I'd be happy to listen.
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hazard1nc said:
I am offering a place to share, I don't have much to offer in terms of anyway to have a CVS repo or anything, but I am offering a place to put your final test projects for members both here and there to test on. If it was self hosted (money issues) I'd offer what more I could.
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If it's a money making site then I'm afraid that isn't allowed here on XDA.
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Its not about making money, I am doing it out of the kindness of my heart and funding it myself. I just said that I don't have the funds currently.
I won't turn away donations, the site itself was just a way to share my tech interests with my local community freely offering tips and tricks for their computer needs as I am the only technology consultant around for 100 miles.
In reality, I just don't have time, I was going to post my local services on a page but if that makes it bad for helping people here then I won't
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hazard1nc said:
Its not about making money, I am doing it out of the kindness of my heart and funding it myself. I just said that I don't have the funds currently.
I won't turn away donations, the site itself was just a way to share my tech interests with my local community freely offering tips and tricks for their computer needs as I am the only technology consultant around for 100 miles.
In reality, I just don't have time, I was going to post my local services on a page but if that makes it bad for helping people here then I won't
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Would you happen to be able to give Team Aurora (ItsMeBdon, Shawn, me) a part of your site where we can upload? We're nearing our Dropbox limit and don't really have any other options :|
Thanks!
I kinda jumped before looking, id be happy to assist but my host caps uploads at 8mb if you can keep it in that range I'd be happy to, I'm looking for another host and might have found one, keep in touch with me and I will do my best. I gotta make sure they don't cap my uploads to the server but I'd be happy to once I get the right host
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Aquethys said:
Would you happen to be able to give Team Aurora (ItsMeBdon, Shawn, me) a part of your site where we can upload? We're nearing our Dropbox limit and don't really have any other options :|
Thanks!
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As far as that goes, there are many hosts out there, I'll compile a list if you want, I am a tech consultant and solutions provider so its in my nature to do this just gimme a few or let me figure out my upload limitations I will get this all sorted and once done we will be in business
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Okay guys I'm sorry it took me so long, I found a new host but can't take my domain with just yet to it.. not going into details why, but if you want me to host your projects, I will be happy to do so.
I am also surprised that none of you share bigger files like roms and such on bittorrent.. would seem more ideal to share this way and its more safe as it uses hashes to piece the app back together.. anyways that's not the point.
I have a list of numerous different share sites and cloud technologies on this page here.
Most note worthy of the cloud servers would have to be ADrive.com giving away 50gb storage for free for banners, and as long as you set your hosts files just right, you don't even see a single banner or ad, I haven't yet anyways.
I just hope that this helps everyone who working on these projects and I will do my best to keep these site lists current for you and add more as we go along.
I am just sorry it took me so long to get setup, my wife about to give birth any day now, my 4th and its been mad hectic with work and steess, but the site is down right now on the new host and will be for a couple weeks.
Thank you all for being patient and I will get this going for you, I'll put up polls and such so you can help me make the site better for your needs in this way..
Anyways, busy times for me ahead,will try to pop in when I can yo test for those who need a tester, but gonna be hectic more so for a few months, will keep updated on the sites progress and will need some help testing that when able, sign up for that when its more close to the end, maybe a couple weeks more, at the latest.
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Honestly, I'm very glad that people don't host their roms via bittorrent, as it's a nightmare for anyone who's looking to snag something for an older phone. I often find myself in possession of old android hardware, and I repurpose them for VoIP phones or other misc. With older hardware, it's often unbearably slow on the official rom, and the best solution is to track down something custom.
I just spent like 4 hours tracking down a rom for the Huawei Ascend M860, over half of the links were dead, and an entire site where a large portion of the development took place had folded because of the age of the device. With torrents, it's easy for something less popular like an older device to lose what few seeds it had, while a reliable mirror site will at least be up for reasonable amount of time.