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I installed WM6 last night after CID unlocking my s620 hoping for the excitement that i had when had my HTC Wizard upgraded to PDA VIET's cooked ROM of WM6. I wasn't impressed enough to keep it, so i would like to highlight what i had found, which might repeat what others already know.
WM6 Beta Pros:
1. It is faster, it feels faster
2. New Microsoft Word, Excel edit capabilities
3. Press and hold the key and you will get the symbols instead of pushing the FN key to create !#$% symbols for example
4. All the other frills of WM6
WM6 Beta cons:
1. Because this is a T-Mobile ROM, and I am using it for Rogers, the additional customization for T-mobile is useless to me
2. The joggr has to be reset to use it as scroll instead of the volume function that the DASH uses - Reg edit will fix this
3. For some reason, as noted in another thread, the keyboard search from the home screen doesnt work right. Instead it acts like a phone keypad. For example searching for a name to call - key 2 acts like ABC insetead of E!!
4. SNAPIN issue - will send SMS messages to the UK, costs you international monies - fix is to delete the folder
5. Incompatibilities with Blackberry connect
I went back to WM5 and I will wait for a newer or cooked rom of this. ITs not worth it to me to flip to WM6. Being that i was using WM6 for a long time on my HTC wizard, this version of WM6 is way more inferior on the DASH/s620 than when it was put togetehr for the wizard.
My recommendation is to wait for another release.
While your PROS are legit, I have to disagree with your CONS.
All of the CONS you list are easily fixed with the exception of 3 and 5. Many don't use Blackberry and #3 is one small inconvenience for a leaked ROM IMHO. When you compare it to having Word, Excel, and Power Point, it's a good trade off. #4 is still not entirely fixed by deleting that folder. On Cingular I still get the junk text message when booting my phone. THIS is what ruined it for me. Since I don't know what's causing it, I don't fully trust it.
I also went back to WM5 to be fair. The s620 FW is stable as hell and very fast. I wouldn't use the standard T-Mobile WM6 ROM once it's released due to the crap they are putting on it. I'll wait for a generic like Dopod or HTC before I upgrade again.
Man I liked the native Word and Excel support. I can't wait...
-Mc
To solve the blackberry connect problem check out this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=294218&highlight=blackberry+connect
Actually you ahve very valid points, and i agree the stock 405.4 ROM on the S620 is super fast. This is the way i see it.
HTC Wizard
WM5 cooked rom to WM6 cooked rom ==> HUGE IMPROVEMENT
HTC S620
WM5 stock 405.4 rom to WM6 beta ==> Minimal improvement.
THis thread was just to warn that its not really worth a great deal to switch from an already great ROM.
McHale said:
While your PROS are legit, I have to disagree with your CONS.
All of the CONS you list are easily fixed with the exception of 3 and 5. Many don't use Blackberry and #3 is one small inconvenience for a leaked ROM IMHO. When you compare it to having Word, Excel, and Power Point, it's a good trade off. #4 is still not entirely fixed by deleting that folder. On Cingular I still get the junk text message when booting my phone. THIS is what ruined it for me. Since I don't know what's causing it, I don't fully trust it.
I also went back to WM5 to be fair. The s620 FW is stable as hell and very fast. I wouldn't use the standard T-Mobile WM6 ROM once it's released due to the crap they are putting on it. I'll wait for a generic like Dopod or HTC before I upgrade again.
Man I liked the native Word and Excel support. I can't wait...
-Mc
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nice summary. i'm going to wait for a nice cooked rom or offical one being installing it.
if it weren't for the SMS issue, I'd have stuck with it. I really liked the HTML email and the office apps.
But the official ROM is only a month or so away. If HTC releases this for the s620, it will be a great ROM...
I'm waiting for the official...
-Mc
hi, i upgraded to wm6 and went back. i did not like the rom much.
office ? u can get documento 2 go which are batter.
keypad problems - are confusing
and txt problem to uk although i am in uk
i am waiting for official relese or cooked wm6 rom
cudo
cudo said:
hi, i upgraded to wm6 and went back. i did not like the rom much.
office ? u can get documento 2 go which are batter.
keypad problems - are confusing
and txt problem to uk although i am in uk
i am waiting for official relese or cooked wm6 rom
cudo
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There are easy workarounds for the keypad, and Doc2Go doesn't allow you to edit Office docs (does it?).
of course it does. but office in wm6 does not allow to create new docs.
cudo
cudo said:
of course it does. but office in wm6 does not allow to create new docs.
cudo
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Just create a template and do a "Save As".
T-Will said:
Just create a template and do a "Save As".
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yup , but there is no "creat new" , which is stupid. and doc2go is better anyway , ever tried ? more functions, settings etc.
cudo
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There are easy workarounds for the keypad, and Doc2Go doesn't allow you to edit Office docs (does it?).
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What are the work arounds?
just wondering something, in the wm6 office word, is there a bullets option?
kmattoo said:
What are the work arounds?
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What he said. What are the work arounds for the keypad?
minirx7 said:
What he said. What are the work arounds for the keypad?
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Yes, please, for the love of God tell us the workaround!
i believe the workaround is to hold down on the keypad and let it cycle through the letters. it really doesn't take very long to get to the letter you need.
not a big deal imo.
Docs To Go is laggy IMHO on my Dash running WM5.
JAmerican
lafester said:
i believe the workaround is to hold down on the keypad and let it cycle through the letters. it really doesn't take very long to get to the letter you need.
not a big deal imo.
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This is not the workaround. For example, we don't want the "4/s" key to represent "I,H,G". This key should just represent "s". This is what a QWERTY keypad is meant for (among other things)!
christophsky said:
This is not the workaround. For example, we don't want the "4/s" key to represent "I,H,G". This key should just represent "s". This is what a QWERTY keypad is meant for (among other things)!
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I can almost guarantee this will be fixed in the final version. It appears to be an implementation issue. I bet you a reg edit will fix this.. Anybody know where to find the reg edit key?
minirx7 said:
3. Press and hold the key and you will get the symbols instead of pushing the FN key to create !#$% symbols for example
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I guess this may differ since you don't have T-Mobile, but that functionality already exists in my Dash, Windows Mobile 5. I bought it 3 days ago and saw that tip on a site. It definitely helps not having to press the Alt key.
Does anyone know the registry tweak to make the end call button close applications when your in them instead of minimizing them? I remember seeing it but now I cant find the dang post.
I dont think that's possible on a smartphone such as the Excalibur. Although that would be possible on a PPC.
OrganicM said:
I dont think that's possible on a smartphone such as the Excalibur. Although that would be possible on a PPC.
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Ahh I thought I read a post of Rip Syntaxx saying there was a reg entry you could change but I read so many posts they all kind of blend into one. Thanks for the response.
Look for a program called AE Button for smartphone...
Excellent little program will let you remap any key, and lets you change the function.
I have my end call button not only end calls, but also close programs instead of minimize..
It will do exactly what you want it to do..
I would like to know if there is a registry or app that turns off the keyboard backlight.
The idea is save battery life during the day or while reading a big text. I already use the Lowlight to reduce the light intensity but the keyb light many times is useless.
I already teste some regs mentioned for others phones but didn't work in the nrg rose (QKeybTimeout and QKeyb another thing...).
I noticed that the keyb light turns off while browsing a big email in the native wm mail. I think it's possible to find a reg monitoring this function, but i don't know about any wm 6.1 reg monitor like ceregspy for ppc.
thanks for the help
go to power management in settings and you can lower the time that it's lit up
Did you really read my question?
puace said:
Did you really read my question?
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I asked this same question and got nothiing, probably would save some daytime batt life i'd think.
puace said:
Did you really read my question?
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Ever think of searching through the registry yourself? I'll do it when I have time but instead of complaining that someone did not read your post how about trying to help yourself first?
puace said:
I would like to know if there is a registry or app that turns off the keyboard backlight.
The idea is save battery life during the day or while reading a big text. I already use the Lowlight to reduce the light intensity but the keyb light many times is useless.
I already teste some regs mentioned for others phones but didn't work in the nrg rose (QKeybTimeout and QKeyb another thing...).
I noticed that the keyb light turns off while browsing a big email in the native wm mail. I think it's possible to find a reg monitoring this function, but i don't know about any wm 6.1 reg monitor like ceregspy for ppc.
thanks for the help
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you could also use the save battery life cab
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=413297&highlight=battery
I want to turn off keyboard backlight while using the mobile.
I'm surprised that nobody knows how to this while people did complex roms compilations like kavana and nrg rose.
I turn off keyboard backlight :
I replace backlight.dll from HTC Vox to \Windows dir, and keyboard backlight after reboot is off, but not working LightConfig, and if device is go to sleep then screen is white :-(((((
(i dont have backlight.dll from another smartphones, if you have it, please .... any ideas?
if device lock - keyboard light off.
if device reboot - keyboard light light more times off.
if we turn off keyboard light - device life is long
/sorry of my english
any new ideas?
(i want save the battery and turn off backligh keyboard)
here's something for ya, i've only tried this on my blackjack 1 though.
go to HKCU\ControlPanel\KeypadBacklight and change your registry settings to look like this.
EndTime...........0x0(0)
mode...............0x1(1)
i'll make a cab, so if you don't like it you can uninstall it.
dermann said:
here's something for ya, i've only tried this on my blackjack 1 though.
go to HKCU\ControlPanel\KeypadBacklight and change your registry settings to look like this.
EndTime...........0x0(0)
mode...............0x1(1)
i'll make a cab, so if you don't like it you can uninstall it.
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Don't have that value in 6.1... Just to let ya know
stylez said:
Don't have that value in 6.1... Just to let ya know
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hmm... maybe i spoke to soon, i'll test it out on my dash and see what happens.
EDIT well stylez your right, ookba's 6.5 doesn't even have it. so adding it in won't do any good either. it worked on my bj1 that's running starca's 6.1. but obviously a different phone and such.
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hmm... maybe i spoke to soon, i'll test it out on my dash and see what happens.
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It's worth a try to create the reg, just been searchin and seems a common question on many phones that no one answers
haha well i have nothing going on at the moment, so i'll make a small effort to figure it out. no promises though people.
EDIT well after some searching i would like to think i've narrowed it down to the HTCUtil.dll and/or the keybddr.dll that controls how long the keypad lights are on. but i have no way of telling for sure, just a guess.
So anybody? make a cab that has a simple icon like light config, lets make it so all power on keyboard is off during the day.
or something. ?
HTCS621Smartphone said:
So anybody? make a cab that has a simple icon like light config, lets make it so all power on keyboard is off during the day.
or something. ?
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Well without knowing how to control it then a "simple" .cab with .lnk is out of the question
stylez said:
Well without knowing how to control it then a "simple" .cab with .lnk is out of the question
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Ahh lol no doubt i know this is kinda an old question so shes dead too bad, lights out for during the day would been nice, my battery in my S621 on wi-fi all day gives me 10 hours 11am-9pm i bet battery life would last like insane if we could disable the lights on keys.
Upgrade WM6.5 ROM V6.30EN By Lovebabyjing Build 23017 - it includes options for this, go to Settings -> Power Management. There you'll find settings that work for the keypad too!
uccellino said:
Upgrade WM6.5 ROM V6.30EN By Lovebabyjing Build 23017 - it includes options for this, go to Settings -> Power Management. There you'll find settings that work for the keypad too!
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I knew my invision was possible Nice just got er running and its fast as Hell too Nice Mon...
Along the bottom of the phone there's a home button and an endcall which, within programmes, seem to do the same thing - take you back to the today screen. Or, in my case the 6.5 CHome thingy. And the back button in most apps takes you to the home screen too - so that's three buttons largely doing the same thing most of the time.
The new phones with 6.5 preinstalled will have a windows-flag start menu button, I assume this will open up the new hexagony start menu.
Is there a way of remapping the home button so it launches the start menu instead?
That is EXACTLY what I have been thinking for the last days. Pressing Home-key should naturally bring up the start-menu.
Nice idea, even because reaching the top left corner with your right thumb(maybe for left handed it's easier ) while holding the HD with the right hand is a little bit tricky
I'd like something small to do this but I have a feeling most people will return with the suggestion "use aebplus to remap"
I have the same feeling wiggz, There must be a registry key or something that can be changed and put into cab format? Anyone got any ideas?
Me to
So, we are many!!
I too have been looking for a way to do this for ages.
I too will be watching this thread with interest and hope.
Nick
Wiggz said:
I'd like something small to do this but I have a feeling most people will return with the suggestion "use aebplus to remap"
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No aeblus cannot map the home button as it's hard coded into manila!
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I have the same feeling wiggz, There must be a registry key or something that can be changed and put into cab format? Anyone got any ideas?
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so as the home button is coded into manila it mean's one has to play with the manila files and remap to start menu all that would mean is to change some scripts!!
bottomline Home button in theory can be mapped to the start menu!! so it's plausible!!!
i'm going to watch this thread as well --- i've been looking for this since I got hold of my HD. I've already remapped the "back" button to S2U2 via AEB since you are correct, essentially the home, back, and end buttons all work very similarly.
Hoping that someone posts a solution to this!
i have the solution...install this program and you can change all the hard keys to do almost any function...i have mine set up to do the exact same thing that you want it to do!!
cheers!!
i have the solution...install this program and you can change all the hard keys to do almost any function...i have mine set up to do the exact same thing that you want it to do!!
cheers!!
Thanks,but could give more informations to remap keys,please ? The list is empty when i launch the application ...
Same here. I was so happy when I found this thread..
When I tried installing that, it did not work... Maybe it was my ROM.
There are REG keys that remap home in certain cituations, i.e. manilla but I have yet to find a way to get the reg key to do anything else.
The new keypad.dll maps it to a normal vk_lwin, so you can remap it as you like.
Unfortunately I have not yet seen it an any ROM.
gfreek said:
No aeblus cannot map the home button as it's hard coded into manila!
so as the home button is coded into manila it mean's one has to play with the manila files and remap to start menu all that would mean is to change some scripts!!
bottomline Home button in theory can be mapped to the start menu!! so it's plausible!!!
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Ok I take this back if I can get the tool given by jdmsleepr to work!!
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i have the solution...install this program and you can change all the hard keys to do almost any function...i have mine set up to do the exact same thing that you want it to do!!
cheers!!
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Many thanks for this jdmsleepr you sure will make many hd owners very happy if this tool actually works!!
However I have installed this and configured the buttons to my liking but it's not working! upon start up I get error "SMartTouch service is not found" so have I missed something? can you please give us more details on how one configures this tool of yours?
gfreek said:
Ok I take this back if I can get the tool given by jdmsleepr to work!!
Many thanks for this jdmsleepr you sure will make many hd owners very happy if this tool actually works!!
However I have installed this and configured the buttons to my liking but it's not working! upon start up I get error "SMartTouch service is not found" so have I missed something? can you please give us more details on how one configures this tool of yours?
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It is for Diamond and the author says here post 10 "For the touch HD, maybe you should download HTCAPI.DLL somewhere, put it in /Windows and try again". Haven't read the whole thread though so not sure if this is what the problem is.
i know its a little confusing to get it started...so heres what you do...install cab, go to program files\dredsensor and click on dredsensor.exe and a config.ini will appear...now close out whatever app you are using to view files...and open dredsensor...now you will see default under name...tap default and then click menu, then edit...change type to launcher...then go to click and tap the gray box next to the home key...go to events and chose Misc:Start, hit select, hit ok to comfirm, change whatever others you want to...then hit save, then hit ok to confirm...then hit exit...then you should be good to go...hope this helps!!
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It is for Diamond and the author says here post 10 "For the touch HD, maybe you should download HTCAPI.DLL somewhere, put it in /Windows and try again". Haven't read the whole thread though so not sure if this is what the problem is.
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Hello,my opinion : if you post something in blackstone thread it's normally compatible with this pda , no ?
Edit : i build this cab for our HD and now it works ! Don't forget to do a soft reset .
Marcdu81 said:
Hello,my opinion : if you post something in blackstone thread it's normally compatible with this pda , no ?
Edit : i build this cab for our HD and now it works ! Don't forget to do a soft reset .
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can i know what r the dependencies .. i mean what files r needed for the four buttons to run as i use kitchen... i need to knw ...thanks
not working for me,installed app then fix,selected type:hardkeysimul,set the home to start,tried it and all I get is an error popup which stays onscreen all the time even after soft reset,had to do a hard reset. Any help from you who got this thing working?
Marcdu81 said:
Hello,my opinion : if you post something in blackstone thread it's normally compatible with this pda , no ?
Edit : i build this cab for our HD and now it works ! Don't forget to do a soft reset .
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Thanks! just did this as per your instruction but still no joy!! still get the same error message on start up "SMartTouch service is not found"
Hi all,
please excuse the vagueness of this post.
I have just been given a tp2 as a replacement to my td2
My wife also has the tp2 which she got a year ago
the whole look of the phone (software ) is totally diferent
for instance the program page used to list a few progs (your choice) and then you had to hit all progs to get them up.
i am guessing that its a different rom or different version of sense?
also how do i change/edit/remove some programs from the list?
cheers guys
you'll need a registry editor to get the job done here, you can find that in the Theme's and apps section, i'll be back with a link, but you have to navigate to --
HKLM\Software\HTC\EnlargeMenu
and where you see
EnableManilaStartMenu = 1
change the one to a zero and restart the phone, should work.
thanks for that
sorry to be thick but does that just enable me to move the prog icons or delete the progs as well
appreciate the help
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you'll need a registry editor to get the job done here, you can find that in the Theme's and apps section, i'll be back with a link, but you have to navigate to --
HKLM\Software\HTC\EnlargeMenu
and where you see
EnableManilaStartMenu = 1
change the one to a zero and restart the phone, should work.
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You don't need to edit the registry to turn off Manila. This is easily done from the Today settings.
hi got a regedit prog
but i gat as far as
HKLM\Software\HTC\
but cant see enlarge menu
also on the today screen there is no mention of manilla jut htc sense
all i really want to do is lose all the stupid pre loaded progs
thanks
stringman said:
hi got a regedit prog
but i gat as far as
HKLM\Software\HTC\
but cant see enlarge menu
also on the today screen there is no mention of manilla jut htc sense
all i really want to do is lose all the stupid pre loaded progs
thanks
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Different issues, my friend. Sense is the UI (aka Manila versions 2.1 and 2.5) you see when you start the phone. It is on by default, but you can turn it off in the Today setup and use the much less memory intensive standard Window Mobile screen. Go into the Today setup and turn off Sense by removing the check mark in the list and putting a check mark on Windows Default.
As for the bloatware that comes with the phone, anything on the ROM can not be removed except by flashing a new ROM. You can delete shortcuts from your start menu for programs you don't/won't use, but the programs will still be there. Do a search for Crud Scraper, a neat little tool that can 'remove' stuff from specific phone models (it worked great on my Tilt 2). Beyond that, read up as much as you can on modding your phone. This place is a great resource. Unfortunately, easy answers are hard to come by. You have to roll up your sleeves and get a little dirty.