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I have planned to buy O2 XDA IIs from my frnd (2nd hand for sure)
Does it comes under the name, blueangel???
also please tell me pros and cons about this dmobile device
I already own O2 xda exec, typhoon and voyager
what about this one???
cud U, experienced users please guide me....am i gonna upgrade its rom to WM6 or not??
It's a great device, you won't make a mistake It has Intel PXA263 400mhz processor (This is the only thing i don't like in blueangel. It is not so fast. If you plan to play 3d games it is not very good for this. But you can easily overclock it with pocket master to 530mhz. With this frequency it handles everything without Snow Rally - there's a little lag and you can't play Playstation 1 games even if you overclock it to 590. I got 21-23fps in Tony Hawk Pro Skater with @530mhz and Frameskip - 2), 128 ram (This is great! With so much ram you don't need real close button.But there are no applications that wants more than 32 ram, so this is not a big advantage), Big screen and the best design for games(The screen is perfect. It wouldn't be bad if there was VGA screen but QVGA is not so bad either. In web browsing the qvga resolution is a big dissadvantage. You have to scrool a lot. But now there are browsers now that supports Zoom function.With it the browsing is good even on qvga device. When Opera 9.5 comes out it will rock And the design is great for games. It's like joystick when you handle it in landscape position and there are many buttons), 64mb Flash Storage(It's not much but you don't need more. There are SD Cards for that), SD/MMC expansion slot( The bad thing here is that it doesn't support SDHC, there are no drivers for that and there won't be in future ), CIF camera (It is really badd. The image quality is similar. If you try to record video it lags. I don't know why :/ It does it wven in the lowest quality), WiFi( No problems here), Bluetooth (No problems here either), IrDA( It can't be used as a remote controller because the irda range is around 3 meters)
And finally the PocketPC comes with WM2003. You can install WM6.1 but I recommend you to wait for explode's WM6.1. His roms are the best With the new windows the pocket becmoes really fast and stable. That's all, it's a great device
dark_prince said:
I have planned to buy O2 XDA IIs from my frnd (2nd hand for sure)
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Nice choice. I recently picked up a hermes and while it is very nice, there are some things I miss from the Angel.
dark_prince said:
Does it comes under the name, blueangel???
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I don't quite understand this question. If you are asking if it was sold under the name of Blue Angel, no. Blue Angel is the HTC internal name for the phone. It was never sold by HTC directly, but to the various cell carriers who rebadged it with their own plastics and ROM/applications.
dark_prince said:
also please tell me pros and cons about this dmobile device
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Pros:
Good CPU speed (the keiser runs at the same speed, 400 mhz)
The CPU has been around for a while, so 3rd party apps that are designed for the CPU work well.
Good physical size on the screen
Lots of storage and program memory when the extended ROM is resized/removed.
Cons:
Since it is an older platform, any MW version after 2003 is a hack. The drivers are generally ported from other phones and there are various bugs that will probably never be fixed due to a lack of hardware drivers. Everything does work, there are just various quirks.
Radio range (bluetooth, wifi, etc) are not the best. Heck, they often tend to be down right crappy.
Unless someone is able to write and release a SDHC driver for the card slot, it will never support SDHC cards, which will limit the phone to 4 gig cards. 2 gig is the official spec for SD, but there are a few 4 gig non-SDHC cards out there.
dark_prince said:
I already own O2 xda exec, typhoon and voyager
what about this one???
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I still like mine and plan on passing it to my wife or using it for testing and development if she doesn't want it.
dark_prince said:
cud U, experienced users please guide me....am i gonna upgrade its rom to WM6 or not??
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I would. MW6 is a huge improvement over 2003 and 5. The latest ROM builds out there work very well, if not 99% perfectly, and are fast.
In my opinion, Hemli releasing wm6 for the angel breathed new life into the device.
Really, I wish HTC would revive the device, make an updated version of it. The form factor, while is a bit big for a phone, is great for usability as a PDA.
jdc said:
In my opinion, Hemli releasing wm6 for the angel breathed new life into the device.
Really, I wish HTC would revive the device, make an updated version of it. The form factor, while is a bit big for a phone, is great for usability as a PDA.
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I second that! Just ditched my Hermes for my old trusty Blue Angel, which blows the pants off it! I forgot how much I loved the 3.5 inch screen!
Rookie as well with the Blue Angel
I am getting started with the Blue angel as well (O2 Xda IIs)
I like it a lot this will probably become my best buddy during my travels
I got a couple of complementary questions about it.
I intend to use it for business purposes, mainly Internet through
Wifi and GPRS, pdf and offices documents.
I saw on this forum that you advise to change from WM 2003SE to Windows Mobile 6 (the last published by Microsoft)
-My question is: This PDA is already a bit old now, is it going to work smoothly wit the very last OS, which is designed for more recent PDAs (i.e which should be more efficient).
I mainly want to use it for Internet, wich browser do you recommend ?
Internet explorer? Opera Mobile? Opera Mini? other browser?
By the way what is the difference between Opera Mobile and Opera Mini
you should go with opera mobile, as it is better suited for pda's. opera mini is suited for java based mobile phones.
jdc said:
Really, I wish HTC would revive the device, make an updated version of it. The form factor, while is a bit big for a phone, is great for usability as a PDA.
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man i wish they would do that, or release a device with the same glorious screen but with contemporary features, all in all the blu angel is still a killer device 4 years on.
Absolutely right. I had been using the subj for 4 years in nearly extremal conditions, uprading and downgrading firmware dozen times. But, unfortunately it died as hero. Really great gadget, legend of HTC platform challenging ages.
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Well with WM 6.1 it does everything I need and thats for sure I have my pick of devices and always come back to this one - and the 11i which is just about as good
I cant think of a time I have been upset with what it does or doesn't do. I intend keep one for as long as it will run....
John P
Hi all,
HTC Touch Diamond is out and u can see in these links the beatiful new touchflow 3D that will be very welcome on our trinity
TouchFlow 3D
Video
"The most important factor of this new device is HTC's new Touch Flo 3D interface. The new interface aims to compete against Apple's iPhone touch interface. From a video demonstration by MoDaCo it appears that the technology suffers from some common drawbacks to Windows Mobile's own interface and system. Occasionally freezing and not always responding to screen taps correctly. Checkout the video below to see what I am referring to. HTC has integrated Opera's mobile browser into the device and it appears to offer an improved interface for web browsing on Windows Mobile devices. A YouTube specific application features on the device almost like the iPhone equivalent."
(neowin.net)
This may be discussed on xda, sorry if dble post.
WOOOOW, ITS AMAZING..waiting for it to come to egypt )
the bad thing about HTC Diamond that its VGA not QVGA
BUT i hope that we can put the 3d home screen on P3600
Yes the Diamond looks like a nice phone, it's even smaller than a HTC Touch. BUT, it is only triband so if you live or travel to north america it won't get reception in some country areas. Even though it has 4gb of built-in memory it would have been nice if there was a microSD slot since they will soon be up to 16 and 32gb.
Otherwise I'd be the first in line for this tiny brother of the Trinity. Maybe the next model called the Raphael which is a Diamond w/keyboard will be quad band.
Aqrab said:
the bad thing about HTC Diamond that its VGA not QVGA
BUT i hope that we can put the 3d home screen on P3600
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More bad news, Diamond has 3d acceleration hardware... so i think it will be almost imposible to bring this new Touch Flo 3D to ours trinitys.... but i will try..
It's MANILA!!!
Do you remember???
was anticipated sometime ago as manila interface!!
also elia said me that manilla is too slow unlucky....
Finally HTC seem to have realized the importance of RAM amount to keep WM running smooth: 192 MB DDR SDRAM.
This interface will not come to our trinity's
aburman said:
Finally HTC seem to have realized the importance of RAM amount to keep WM running smooth: 192 MB DDR SDRAM.
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yah but you know that VGA device take more RAM than QVGA device to run any apps
our video card is not badly, but we haven't got 3d driver!
many applications 3d that they turn on our device are simulated by some dll librery.
in more we have not the codes sources....than we cannot modify the functionalities of the video card.
the problem of vga-qvga remains on second level
sorry for eng...
i am getting one in october
im off to hong kong
i am going to get one while there
can't wait......looks a great phone
Oh my God, I WANT THIS!!!!
any idea about the price and is it avilable yet?
alaaassem said:
any idea about the price and is it avilable yet?
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It will be available during June, and it will cost around 600 €.
Cheers.
ark666 said:
It will be available during June, and it will cost around 600 €.
Cheers.
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But note: No Memory Slot!
Maybe because of the 4 Gig storage memory you dont mind. but rumours say that there will be a business edititon with memory slot later...
Launch in Italy
In Italy it will be available 15 june 2008 at 699 euros....not bad i think :-D
http://www.mobilestyle.it/htc_touch_diamond_garanzia_italia.phtml
Cheers
Florin
Aqrab said:
yah but you know that VGA device take more RAM than QVGA device to run any apps
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Folks pls note the battery is really low only 900amh as i know
Monday, 14th July, 590 Eur here
Hope that's true about business edition with slot mem card
but I wonder how much more will cost...
I too have read somewhere that HTC Diamond doesn't have memory-card slot ...this seems very disappointing.
Check out this UI for the meizu phone..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eq_qk4Rxn-0
It is running on windows mobile.
Will it be possible to port the code to HD?
http://www.meizume.com/m8-firmware/7812-m8-firmware-0-9-0-0-a.html
Probably possible - but difficult. The M8 uses only the Windows CE6 core, not Windows Mobile itself (which is still based on the crappy CE5 core). What Meizu did is take the good CE6 core and build a nice interface onto it.
This is exactly what Microsoft, HTC and all the other manufacturers should have done long time ago. Get rid of WM6 and its crappy CE5 core and build a new system on top of CE6.
Windows Mobile has both a crappy core and a crappy interface. I can't understand why Microsoft still has not built a new interface onto CE6, which was already released two-three years ago. That would've been easy but they just didn't care about Windows Mobile for another two years and let HTC and others do the work of replacing the WM interface - which is hard because there's always the crappy WM interface underneath.
The Meizu system is a bit like what Windows Mobile 7 will be - better core, nice interface. But Windows Mobile 7 is coming two years too late.
Anyway...
I suggest you do a Meizu M8 skin for iContact/PocketMusic/Resco Explorer/ThumbCal/Wisbar Advance Desktop and others in the meantime. Then replace the default Windows Mobile applications with these programs and voilà...
And make a finger-friendly alternative to Outlook...
And get rid of TouchFlo scrolling and implement the Windows Mobile 6.5 scrolling/zooming engine.
katolo said:
Check out this UI for the meizu phone..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eq_qk4Rxn-0
It is running on windows mobile.
Will it be possible to port the code to HD?
http://www.meizume.com/m8-firmware/7812-m8-firmware-0-9-0-0-a.html
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maati said:
Probably possible - but difficult. The M8 uses only the Windows CE6 core, not Windows Mobile itself (which is still based on the crappy CE5 core). What Meizu did is take the good CE6 core and build a nice interface onto it.
This is exactly what Microsoft, HTC and all the other manufacturers should have done long time ago. Get rid of WM6 and its crappy CE5 core and build a new system on top of CE6.
Windows Mobile has both a crappy core and a crappy interface. I can't understand why Microsoft still has not built a new interface onto CE6, which was already released two-three years ago. That would've been easy but they just didn't care about Windows Mobile for another two years and let HTC and others do the work of replacing the WM interface - which is hard because there's always the crappy WM interface underneath.
The Meizu system is a bit like what Windows Mobile 7 will be - better core, nice interface. But Windows Mobile 7 is coming two years too late.
Anyway...
I suggest you do a Meizu M8 skin for iContact/PocketMusic/Resco Explorer/ThumbCal/Wisbar Advance Desktop and others in the meantime. Then replace the default Windows Mobile applications with these programs and voilà...
And make a finger-friendly alternative to Outlook...
And get rid of TouchFlo scrolling and implement the Windows Mobile 6.5 scrolling/zooming engine.
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This maybe possible but you would need to shift everything around to make it Windows CE 6.0 compatible. I was looking into doing a project like this after building a ROM or two for my phone. Anyone up for a group project?
The project have been started?
i guess the music quality will be really good in this phone
MEIZU are well known about their good sound quality (i own the M6 MP4)
this going to be a really nice phone i think
At a net price around 325 euros during instant sale on the bay if the seller is in a good mood, and delivery ex Hamburg, it might be tempting to buy one... Just a pity there is no 3G, guess I wait for the M9
http://bit.ly/2nCJ3X
no G3??!
thats bad...too bad!
is this meizu m8 port to HTC blackstone possible?
I was wondering if anyone knows how to complie Numpty Physics for our Touch HDs. There are CABs for both QVGA and VGA over in the General Section but nothing for WVGA.
There's a link to the source code in post #38 of that thread.
Anyone reckon they can take on the challenge? I love that game!
That would be great! This game looks very promising.
Thx
Yes. Me too. I want this game on my Topaz !
Its pretty much a perfect time waster imo.
Have you tried running the VGA version with WVGAfix?
any updates on this, just hangs on my phone when I run it.
I would recommend you Crayon Physics. Game Type is nearly the same, it's also an physics puzzle, and it runs like a charm on my HD, imho one of the best games so far.
Maybe you'll stuck with it to until there will be any WVGA Version of Numpty Physics, give it a try.
Other thant that, here's the Thread of the Port Version from Numpty Phsyics hit me
and a little info if you read the whole thread:
For HTC Touch HD users:
It's pretty playable if you install VolDpad:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=552947
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Hi all,
As I am a bit of a window shopper and came to ANDROID from a WM device, I was browsing one of my favorite WM websites www.1800pocketpc.com and saw a review for SPB Mobile Shell v5.0 and it said that it would be being released for ANDROID.
SPB was one of my favorite things about using my Samsung Omnia i910 (as it was really the only thing that made it work very well... lol!) and I think for us ex WM users that this will add a familiarity to our devices and a GREAT 3D UI.
What does anyone else think? Do you like this or not?
SPB Mobile Shell is fancy looking, but heavy on the OS
in my WM phone i used it for a while, in the end i took it off, make the WM phone super slooooooooow
didnt make my i8910 super slow and it was nice.. but i think i prefer the android ones with up to 7 pages better.
AllGamer said:
SPB Mobile Shell is fancy looking, but heavy on the OS
in my WM phone i used it for a while, in the end i took it off, make the WM phone super slooooooooow
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Really? It never really slowed down my Omnia i910 but... I did use the steps found on www.samsung-omnia.org to move and delete un-needed items from the windows folder, etc to gain space.
I really liked SPB and there were a tom of mods you could find for skinning, icons, etc.
I might give it a try but that will depend on how much it costs as well...
I wouldn't mind it for android. But getting it running smoothly is a dif kettle of fish
slow my HP 612c and Atom too...
I tried some SPB software, and they are good, but most are too heavy and slow down my WM...
I've always found their products to be ugly.
Spb Mobile Shell 5.0 on Galaxy S
Here i found a nice video with demo of Spb Mobile Shell 5.0 on Galaxy S
http://bit.ly/aoPeSA
quite impressive! thanks for the link..
where can demo be downloaded and when the full ui will be released?
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where can demo be downloaded and when the full ui will be released?
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The full app has been released for the manufacturers and carriers: http://spb.com/press/pressreleases/...-shell-5.0-for-manufactures-and-carriers.html
What about us
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i find hard to believe that it didnt leak on the net
it looks exactly like the old one for windows
not a big fan of it, looks like it's going to lag the phone
i'll take LauncherPRO over SPB lag Shell (biased by its windows version)
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not a big fan of it, looks like it's going to lag the phone
i'll take LauncherPRO over SPB lag Shell (biased by its windows version)
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Compare the hardware of those old WM phones to the SGS, I don't think lag will be a problem. Especially if it has GPU acceleration.
In that video performance looked fluid and flawless.
Not sure I like it though. Going by their Symbian and WM versions, it will be a high priced paid app. Then again it was such a big improvement over the interface in those devices so the price could be justified, while here it already has plenty of competition that doesn't even cost a cent.
i'm planning to try it out and review it once it becomes available on Android Market for Trial
i'll definitely NOT buy it, that's for sure, as i like LauncherPRO as it does exactly what i wanted it to do down to the smallest detail
it was like a custom tailored app for me well worth the donation
Could you give link on different site? For example: mediafire, rapidshare. Please dude.
Could anyone provide links to download this??
Please. Help.
Its not available yet.
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