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My first ever flash!

My T-Mobile Vario 2 (UK) is being returned to me next week, and it's running an ancient WM5 rom + bootloader and radio! I've decided to get rid of the old ROM and flash WM6 Black Satin as well as updating my radio to 1.48. Now it's my first ever time flashing the phone. So I have a few questions (I have read through a lot of posts but I just want to make sure I'm doing everything right)
1) If I upgrade my phones radio to 1.48 before I flash WM6, will the 1.48 work in the UK with WM5? And will the 1.48 radio work with the new Black Satin due to be released?
2) Apart from updating my phones O/S to WM6 Black Satin, my phones radio to 1.48 are the any other parts of my phone I should be updating? Do I need to update my bootloader before upgrading the radio and OS?
P.S When I receive the phone back I'll be able to tell you the radio, O/S and bootloader version the phones using.

the answer to all of the above questions is yes.
before flashing anything, you need to first upgrade your SPL to Olipro's HardSPL. read MrVanx's guides here.

The best thing to do is to read through the wiki and various threads BEFORE doing any updates on the device.
the BARE MINIMUM you should do first is to Update to HardSPL v7
Updating the radio has no effects on updating ROMs etc... so by all means go for it with the Radio update...AFTER you have installed HardSPL though.
At the moment black satin is still not released...the version being downloaded by users has issues which the author (JasJamming) has acknowledged, I recommend AGAINST downloading this version until i have updated the Black Satin thread with the new links to the re-released version once it is fixed. Even though users are reporting no errors the ROM is still not fully functional so DO NOT download it.
You can always try Black Majik....which is also VERY good.

mrvanx said:
The best thing to do is to read through the wiki and various threads BEFORE doing any updates on the device.
the BARE MINIMUM you should do first is to Update to HardSPL v7
Updating the radio has no effects on updating ROMs etc... so by all means go for it with the Radio update...AFTER you have installed HardSPL though.
At the moment black satin is still not released...the version being downloaded by users has issues which the author (JasJamming) has acknowledged, I recommend AGAINST downloading this version until i have updated the Black Satin thread with the new links to the re-released version once it is fixed. Even though users are reporting no errors the ROM is still not fully functional so DO NOT download it.
You can always try Black Majik....which is also VERY good.
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I forgot to mention HARDSPL. I've been looking through the Wiki etc which is why I now feel confident I can do it. So just to reconfirm, when flashing I should do the following in order:
1) Backup (rom, documents etc)
2) Install HardSPL
3) Update radio
4) Update to WM6 Black Satin (when released)

Satin's ETA is unknown due to unfortunate circumstances beyond JJs control.
I am still using Majik and would thoroughly recommend it in the mean time.

OMG my phones back!! YAY! Right here's my software currently on it:
Bootloader: HERM300 IPL-1.01 SPL-1.11
ROM Version: 1.21.110.3
ROM Date: 06/16/06
Radio Version 1.05.05.00
Protocol Version 32.36.7010.04H
Anything else that can be upgraded apart from Radio, WM6 and hardSPL? I assume hardSPL is the latest version of the bootloadeR?

HardSPL v7 is an "alternative" bootloader yes, an "insurance policy" if you like against bricking your phone. In case something goes wrong, ESPECIALLY with the RADIO flashing, you can re-vive your phone into working condition.
If you have normal SPL on your phone and flashing is interrupted for example, you will have to return your brick to the service center again.
So FIRST do HardSPL and THEN breathe
edit: and by the way Majik is *ABSOLUTELY* excellent. I've had it since day 1 of its release and I never had to soft-reset, wait or otherwise be unhappy with my phone. Haven't tried radio 1.48 yet, but will sometime soon.
Another option is to flash one of the "official" wm6 roms that are floating around this forum.

chrisvor said:
HardSPL v7 is an "alternative" bootloader yes, an "insurance policy" if you like against bricking your phone. In case something goes wrong, ESPECIALLY with the RADIO flashing, you can re-vive your phone into working condition.
If you have normal SPL on your phone and flashing is interrupted for example, you will have to return your brick to the service center again.
So FIRST do HardSPL and THEN breathe
edit: and by the way Majik is *ABSOLUTELY* excellent. I've had it since day 1 of its release and I never had to soft-reset, wait or otherwise be unhappy with my phone. Haven't tried radio 1.48 yet, but will sometime soon.
Another option is to flash one of the "official" wm6 roms that are floating around this forum.
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very imformative post, I feel confident enough to flash it now. I shall post later on when I've flashed. Thanks for all your help everyone, you've been very helpful. Wish me luck!

FALSE ALARM
hardSPL and radio 1.48 have been completed successfully! Now for WM6 Black Majik! I'm so excited!!

TheOracle said:
HELP ME QUICK!
I'm using hardSPL 2.10, so shall I select "SPL -2.02/2.10 New Bootloader" or shall I pick SSPL?
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I have the same problem so everytime I flash something to my phone I pick "SPL -2.02/2.10 New Bootloader" and it works just fine...

I've finished..WOW! I noticed the speed increase as soon as I booted up, WM6 flys compared to my old install! Thanks for all the help guys!

How to EXACTLY undo a wm6 upgrade?

Hi Everybody
My hermes is the following:
Vodafone 1605 ITA WM5
ROM: 2.07.165.1 (02/13/07)
Radio: 1.32.00.00
I don't know If I'm going to tryu the wm6 update, but, before even thinking about it, I want to make sure that I can restore it back to what it was in the beginning, in case anything goes wrong...
How can I save my Rom, radio and everything OR where can I find my exact rom and all the necessary stuff to revert it back?
I noticed a guide for wm5 downgrade, but that wolud probably only bring back wm5 in some form, and not MY wm5 and everything that comes with it...
I hope you understood what I mean
Is that even possible?
Thanks in advance

Happily, it's easy mate.
Download your original rom from the archive so you've got it to reinstall from. (Check your current versions of rom, radio, etc. to make sure it's the right one.)
When you want to downgrade, just plug in your phone and run the downloaded exe. It'll take LOADS longer for the 'old' rom to install than your upgrade to wm6 did. This is mainly because the 'old' (original) rom you download will install spl, ext rom, os, plash 1 + 2 and radio all at once.
Thats the easy way.
You could extract just the bits of the original you need to save time, but there are instructions in threads, wiki and downloads for that so I won't repeat it all here. It's Dutty's Good NBH Tool you'll be using (start your search with that if you want to go down that road).

Thanks for the quick reply
By "archive" do you mean this?
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Upgrades
So I guess my rom should be this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298541
It also matches my ROM and Radio version.
There's just one thing I don't understand... I looked at the WM6 guides on mrvanx.org, which show many many steps. Are you saying that I could just grab the latest original HTC exe update and launch it and it would update everything? And still only launch another exe to revert to the old stuff?
Then why do people take the risk and flash all the components separately? Just to use homemade roms?
Thanks

No, it's about the CID (area and carrier-specific idintifier) of your phone.
Your phone'll accept your old rom back because it's from the right country and carrier.
'Cooked' roms aren't the 'right' one for your phone and so you have to alter the phone so it won't care which rom you use. That's what all the messing about before installing wm6 is basically all about - to convince your phone that any CID is fine.
Similarly, I use OrangeUK as my provider and the phone 'wants' a hermes rom from them. Thusly you can't just download and use the latest HTC rom as it's not got the CID code your phone wants. Once you've used the OliPro software you'll be able to use all the roms you like.
The 'archive' is exactly what yopu found there, aye. With downloads coming in zips and rars I shouldn't have called that page the archive, soz.
As to the right rom, I wouldn't like to say, but if it's right country, carrier, radio and rom then you're laughing, download it and tuck it away safe.
Mine for example is the OrangeUK (ORANG001) one. The one with the AKU in bold. So that's been on my laptop since day one of having my hermes.

http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/
all your questions answered here!

chunkymonkey said:
No, it's about the CID (area and carrier-specific idintifier) of your phone.
Your phone'll accept your old rom back because it's from the right country and carrier.
'Cooked' roms aren't the 'right' one for your phone and so you have to alter the phone so it won't care which rom you use. That's what all the messing about before installing wm6 is basically all about - to convince your phone that any CID is fine.
Similarly, I use OrangeUK as my provider and the phone 'wants' a hermes rom from them. Thusly you can't just download and use the latest HTC rom as it's not got the CID code your phone wants. Once you've used the OliPro software you'll be able to use all the roms you like.
The 'archive' is exactly what yopu found there, aye. With downloads coming in zips and rars I shouldn't have called that page the archive, soz.
As to the right rom, I wouldn't like to say, but if it's right country, carrier, radio and rom then you're laughing, download it and tuck it away safe.
Mine for example is the OrangeUK (ORANG001) one. The one with the AKU in bold. So that's been on my laptop since day one of having my hermes.
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Ok that wes pretty clear
Let me just see if I got it right.
To go WM6:
- Upgrade CID to an unlocked version
- Either
1. Use HTC official exe upgrade, which updates ROM, ExtROM and Radio
or
2. Update Radio first and then ROM+ExtROM with a custom version
To revert to Vodafone WM5:
It's not assured that my radio can be safely downgraded (http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=41&Itemid=27), so:
- Use Dutty's tool to extract my Vodafone ROM+ExtROM (no Radio) from the exe
- Downgrade SPL (not mandatory)
- Flash Vodafone ROM+ExtROM
Kinda?...

Yep, kinda!
But if you're planning to upgrade to WM6 with the correct VODAFONE release for your device you do not need to CID unlock your device and all that crap!
Sorry, I am not trying to confuse you!
Here an example:
Lets say you have an HTC Hermes from Vodafone UK with WM5 on there!
If Vodafone UK provides you an WM6 upgrade on their site (or if you find it in the 'archive' here in the Wiki then you do not have to CID unlock but you can run the upgrade without doing anything more than downloading the ROM and running it.
After you upgraded with the Vodafone UK WM6 you can 'downgrade' again with the Vodafone UK WM5 without any problems - even here a CID unlock is not necessary! Both ROMs contain the same CID code because of they are from the same provider.
A CID unlock is only necessary if you are planning to flash your device with ROMs which are not from your network provider, as example you want to flash a Hermes ROM from O2 UK to your Vodafone UK device. O2 UK is a different network provider and has a different CID code. Therefore your phone would refuse the upgrade and give you an error message WRONG VENDER ID!
CID unlock will trick your phone and it just does not care anymore about the VENDER ID (CID code) submitted by the ROM you're trying to flash!
The best way for you to play around with that stuff for a while might be to use SOFT_SSPL.exe to temporarely 'CID unlock' your phone. If you think that you really need it permanently CID unlocked because of you're going to flash it a lot then download the Hermes_Unlocker_3a which will do the job for you!
Please keep in mind that you will lose all data in your device when flashing!

Thanks again, and no, you are not confusing me
In fact, the only reason why I skipped that solution is because there's no official WM6 upgrade from Vodafone IT
Actually I like that SOFT_SSPL.exe thingy... Does it mean that my CID is unlocked just for the time of flashing or what?
And... it seems that you talk about CID and SPL like if they were the same thing... what's the difference?
Thx

Yes.
You will have to copy the soft.sspl.exe to your pda and run it from there. Just have your stuff ready for flashing before doing so.
The soft_sspl.exe is not writing anything to your ppc permanently. After flashing it is gone.
Please read the UPGRADING FOR BEGINNERS section in the Wiki carefully, even about bootloaders and all that crap before starting to flash!
TAKEN FROM THE HERMES WIKTIONARY in the Wiki section:
CID
The CID (Carrier ID) of the device is a setting which determines which carrier ROMs should be allowed to run on the device, a table of valid CIDs can be found in the wiki pages. All bootloaders (apart from HardSPL and SSPL) will only allow a ROM with the correct CID to be flashed onto the device. A device which has been CID unlocked will have 'SuperCID' which allows ANY ROM to be loaded onto the device, SuperCID also unlocks the Ext_ROM and allows it to be mounted.
SPL
See Bootloader.
SSPL
SSPL is a modified bootloader (by Des) which is loaded into RAM when run, this allows us to overwrite any aspect of the ROM, Radio or Bootloader far easier than using mtty. See the official thread for more info.

Do be aware that almost everyone ignores SSPL and upgrades their bootloader and SuperCIDs their phone with the OliPro software.
Although I always use SSPL myself, that's only because I keep a 'safety-net' copy of my own provider's most recent official ROM on my storage card. That way if I naff up the upgrade to wm6 and 'brick' my phone, I can easily restore it to out of the box condition without a PC.
(If you were thinking about using SSPL to avoid altering your bootloader - and remember you'd be going against the grain on this one - can I at least recommend you go here http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_SDCardFlashing and set yourself up a HERMIMG.nbh on your microsd card before considering it? You don't want to go from all excited to gutted and no hermes.)

chunkymonkey said:
Do be aware that almost everyone ignores SSPL and upgrades their bootloader and SuperCIDs their phone with the OliPro software.
Although I always use SSPL myself, that's only because I keep a 'safety-net' copy of my own provider's most recent official ROM on my storage card. That way if I naff up the upgrade to wm6 and 'brick' my phone, I can easily restore it to out of the box condition without a PC.
(If you were thinking about using SSPL to avoid altering your bootloader - and remember you'd be going against the grain on this one - can I at least recommend you go here http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_SDCardFlashing and set yourself up a HERMIMG.nbh on your microsd card before considering it? You don't want to go from all excited to gutted and no hermes.)
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Thanks for this really helpful advice!
I'll try to do some research on this option before doing anything, just to make sure that I know all the options before taking a definite road...
I still need to figure out what are the disadvantages of going HardSPL instead of using SSPL every time and if it's worth to update the radio firmware to the latest version, instead of just keeping my own.

If all radio functions seem good and reliable you could leave the radio upgrade.
On a 'new radio version' thread try to find any references from a user from your own country, region within that country and provider as regards any radio versions. each new one is simply the most recent that a provider somewhere has brought out. the latest version number by no means that any given phone on X provider in X region of X country will be improved. It could easily be worsened.
Another way to do it, and very long-winded, is to flash the latest radio and, if dissatisfied, go backward thorugh the versions till you get it performing satisfactorily.
If you're happy wwith your radio performance don't change it tbh. Just my opinion on that, some people may differ.

Gatz said:
... I still need to figure out what are the disadvantages of going HardSPL instead of using SSPL every time and if it's worth to update the radio firmware to the latest version, instead of just keeping my own.
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HardSPL will be permanently written (hard-coded) to your phone! This can be a problem if you have to mail in your phone for service! You would lose your warranty!
SSPL is just temporary for the moment. It executes from the RAM until the flash job is finished. Afterwards it is gone!
BTW: I made some experiments on my 8525:
It was not very difficult to 'undo' HardSPL! I simply took my original shipped ROM image file (nbh) and flashed it entirely with CustomRUU - afterwards HardSPL was gone.
If I ever get a new device I will use SSPL only. All you have to do, is, to copy it to your SD card and run it when you want to flash your device. That makes it only 1 more step compared to having your phone HardSPLed ...

Mmm, considering both your answers, I might go for SSPL, at least for the first time.
I thought that the official HTC update contained also a new radio version, so there should be no difference between carriers... that's a point that confuses me a bit.
I mean, are there HTC radios as opposed to Vodafone radios and so on?

[HELP]HELP!!!!!

I Have Got An Orange Uk Diamond And Have Been Trying To Upgrade From Rom 1.37.405.1 Wwe To 1.93..... But Was Unsuccesfull. I Have Got Few Questions.
1. Is It Possible To To Do It(1.73 Rom To 1.93)
2. Do I Need To Hard Spl For This As It Is I Believe An Official Rom
3. Is There Anyone Who Managed To Backup The Orange Rom 1.37 So If Something Goes Wrong I Can Return And Reflash My Phone Back To The Original Rom It Came With.
I Maybe Asking For Too Much Here.
And Sorry Guys For The Newbie Questions. As It Might Have Already Been Answered A Million Times. I Just Couldnt Find Them.
Thanks In Advance.

When You Type In All Caps It Makes Your Words Normalised But Every Word Has A Capital Letter
Just In Case You Wanted To See Who The Idiots Were

yuv said:
I Have Got An Orange Uk Diamond And Have Been Trying To Upgrade From Rom 1.37.405.1 Wwe To 1.93..... But Was Unsuccesfull. I Have Got Few Questions.
1. Is It Possible To To Do It(1.73 Rom To 1.93)
Yes but you need hardspl unsigned 1.34 or 1.40
2. Do I Need To Hard Spl For This As It Is I Believe An Official Rom
Yes see post above
3. Is There Anyone Who Managed To Backup The Orange Rom 1.37 So If Something Goes Wrong I Can Return And Reflash My Phone Back To The Original Rom It Came With.
Mine is sim-free so cannot help you there but I am sure someone else can.
I Maybe Asking For Too Much Here.
And Sorry Guys For The Newbie Questions. As It Might Have Already Been Answered A Million Times. I Just Couldnt Find Them.
Thanks In Advance.
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1. Is It Possible To To Do It(1.73 Rom To 1.93)
Yes but you need hardspl unsigned 1.34 or 1.40
2. Do I Need To Hard Spl For This As It Is I Believe An Official Rom
Yes see post above
3. Is There Anyone Who Managed To Backup The Orange Rom 1.37 So If Something Goes Wrong I Can Return And Reflash My Phone Back To The Original Rom It Came With.
Mine is sim-free so cannot help you there but I am sure someone else can.

Since you're not giving any details I don't know what your exact issue is. It depends on your Phone and where you got it.
Most likely your issue can be resolved by reading the thread which I link to in my signature.

daleski75 said:
1. Is It Possible To To Do It(1.73 Rom To 1.93)
Yes but you need hardspl unsigned 1.34 or 1.40
2. Do I Need To Hard Spl For This As It Is I Believe An Official Rom
Yes see post above
3. Is There Anyone Who Managed To Backup The Orange Rom 1.37 So If Something Goes Wrong I Can Return And Reflash My Phone Back To The Original Rom It Came With.
Mine is sim-free so cannot help you there but I am sure someone else can.
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If you HardSPL you wont be able to install a standard HTC ROM without some faffing, I had this problem this week, so if your 1.93 is the released Standard OEM HTC one then dont HardSPL whatever you do.

thanks alot guys. what a quick response. and sorry for the caps lock if it got u confused.
as far as the details of the phone is concerened. its an orange UK contract phone with the ROM version 1.37.405.1 WWE radio 1.00.25.03. the phone hasnt been flashed at all. i did try to flash it to _QMR_RUU_Diamond_HTC_WWE_1.93.405.1_Radio_Signed_Diamond_52.29.25.12_1.00.25.05_Ship.exe but was unable to. i guess i should have hard spl it before.
i m guessing the only thing i need to do is to hard spl it right. or do i need to do something else as well.
again thanks alot guys for the quick responses.

hi tony.
i have actually tried to do it without hard spl but it would get stuck on 1%. is there any other way to do it. i believe the ROM i m trying to flash to is an official one as far as the thread i downloaded it from is concerend.

one thing to clear here. its the first time i m trying to flash from 1.37 to 1.93 official rom. could someone confirm that there is a 1.93... official rom available or is it one of the cooked ones. and could one confirm as well that i need to hard spl even flashing from oficial to official rom. coz two post before tony mentioned not to hard spl.
any ideas guys. thanks

Here's what I've just done, I hope it helps -
Vodafone UK to UK release HTC ROM.
1. I read the info here, over and over and asked lots of questions.
2. I checked the current SPL of my fone (Volume Down & Reset) and found I had 1.37.
3. Downloaded Hard SPL 1.37 UnSigned and installed it - Here was my first problem. Everyone just says use RUU to install hard SPL however the SPL's I downloaded didn't come with RUU so I took a guess and decided that RUU was a generic flasher which could also flash the SPL for me.
4. Use RUU to flash the SPL, mine reported V1.0 as the new ROM version but installed and rebooted perfectly to reveal the coloured screen informng that I did now have a Cooked SPL installed.
5. Followed the fisrt startup procedure that the phone asked me to do.
6. Flashed the new ROM in a similar way to flashing the Hard SPL.
7. Phone flashed ok and I'm just in the process of setting it up now.
One issue I did have was using Vista I had to right click and run as Administrator to make it work.

tonyb15re said:
If you HardSPL you wont be able to install a standard HTC ROM without some faffing, I had this problem this week, so if your 1.93 is the released Standard OEM HTC one then dont HardSPL whatever you do.
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wrong. if you use unsigned hardspl (aka "developer hardspl") it will flash HTC ROMs just fine
1.93 is also unsigned.

vrstu said:
3. Downloaded Hard SPL 1.37 UnSigned and installed it - Here was my first problem. Everyone just says use RUU to install hard SPL however the SPL's I downloaded didn't come with RUU so I took a guess and decided that RUU was a generic flasher which could also flash the SPL for me.
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who's "everyone"? this information is totally wrong, wrong, wrong.
next time you download an attachment from a post, read the post where the attachment was, and you won't have this problem (the post that had the unsigned hardspl 1.37 also talked about where to get the special SSPL RUU for it - have a guess. it is in the same post in another attachment).

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HTC Touch Diamond On Orange?

Hi,
I have recently purchased a HTC Touch Diamond. I purchased it from Orange UK on contract
My current ROM version is: 1.37.405.1 WWE
Ive tried downloading the ROM from HTC website it says device not supported
Can somebody tell me how to update to latest 1.93 ROM. Anyone here that has bought the phone from Orange UK
PLZ HELP!!

You need to install hardspl in order to install any other ROM than the carrier's stock ROM.

I have a Diamond on Orange UK contract which came with the same ROM.
You need to install HardSPL before flashing any ROM other than an Official Orange UK ROM. I tried the official HTC ROM however I much prefer Dutty's ROM as it yielded better performance. I currently use Dutty's 1.5 and will probably flash 1.7 when it is released this weekend.

How about teh offical 1.93 ROM will I be able to flash that

Can you give me the exact method you used also the hard spl version etc signed or unsigned

As far as I am aware Orange UK haven't released an updated Orange branded ROM yet for the diamond, so the only way to flash a new ROM, whether official HTC 1.93 or other 'cooked' rom based on the official rom is to flash HardSPL 1.4 first (unsigned). If you are not comfortable doing that (there are plenty of threads on the subject), then you will have to wait until Orange UK launch their version of an official HTC rom, probably complete with Orange branded TouchFlo 3D - yuck!.

I used the information in the WIKI useful which contains a link to the following site which gives step by step instructions -
http://www.modmydiamond.info/

You can download the latest European ROM from
http://rapidshare.com/files/1376163...igned_Diamond_52.29.25.12_1.00.25.05_Ship.exe

Is this really the case, only way to flash is via hardspl?
I only ask because I have flashed mine twice now with official roms just by extracting the file and running it - worked both times without problems.
Tad confuddled...

Trixster101 said:
Is this really the case, only way to flash is via hardspl?
I only ask because I have flashed mine twice now with official roms just by extracting the file and running it - worked both times without problems.
Tad confuddled...
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Yes, it is. But is not a hard thing to do. Use Hardspl 1.40 (unsigned) and then flash the rom you want

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Originally Posted by Trixster101
Is this really the case, only way to flash is via hardspl?
I only ask because I have flashed mine twice now with official roms just by extracting the file and running it - worked both times without problems.
Tad confuddled...
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mml78 said:
Yes, it is. But is not a hard thing to do. Use Hardspl 1.40 (unsigned) and then flash the rom you want
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No, you do not always need HardSPL, this depending if your device is CID Locked or unlocked.
Carrier Id or CID - commonly used in the form `CID-Unlocking`. If you purchase your phone (example) from Orange UK (Orange is the 'carrier'), your phone will only accept Orange ROMs or official ROMs (the carrier's ROMs or HTC). If you want to flash ROMs from other carrier, you'll need to CID-unlock your phone, so that your phone will accept other ROMs. This is where HardSPL comes in to play.

Windoze9t8 said:
No, you do not always need HardSPL, this depending if your device is CID Locked or unlocked.
Carrier Id or CID - commonly used in the form `CID-Unlocking`. If you purchase your phone (example) from Orange UK (Orange is the 'carrier'), your phone will only accept Orange ROMs or official ROMs (the carrier's ROMs or HTC). If you want to flash ROMs from other carrier, you'll need to CID-unlock your phone, so that your phone will accept other ROMs. This is where HardSPL comes in to play.
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Gotcha.. Mine is SIM-Free so that will explain why it can flash without hard-spl then, at least the official roms as I've not tried another yet.

Will give it a try. Will contact orange first or go to their repair centres.
I have noticed the device does get hot with original orange stock rom.
I would recommend if admin makes this thread a sticky will help alot of people out

Newbie question and probably an obvious answer. I have installed HardSPL and upgraded my Radio with no problems. I am a wee bit nervous about a full rom upgrade. What will happen to my orange settings (voicemail etc) and if i were to restore my info and programs using spb backup will that restore everything

Windoze9t8 said:
No, you do not always need HardSPL, this depending if your device is CID Locked or unlocked.
Carrier Id or CID - commonly used in the form `CID-Unlocking`. If you purchase your phone (example) from Orange UK (Orange is the 'carrier'), your phone will only accept Orange ROMs or official ROMs (the carrier's ROMs or HTC). If you want to flash ROMs from other carrier, you'll need to CID-unlock your phone, so that your phone will accept other ROMs. This is where HardSPL comes in to play.
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@Windoze9t8
So just to confirm, IF I was able to get the official HTC WWE ROM from their website i.e. "RUU_Diamond_HTC_Europe_1.93.401.2_Radio_Signed_Diamond_52.29.25.12_1.00.25.05", are you saying that CID Locked Orange UK HTC Diamonds would still be able to update using this *without* having to do the HardSPL update first?
Alternatively.. IF the HardSPL is required.. would I need the HardSPL 1.40 (unsigned) as mentioned above.. or should I be looking to use HardSPL 1.38 Signed as the Official Rom has "signed" in the filename?
Sorry for (possibly repeated) questions - I just want to be sure, and no one has replied as concisely as you before

Ok.. please ignore my previous post.
My Orange UK Touch Diamond would not update with that latest HTC Rom without installing HardSPL 1.93 Unsigned.
I couldn't find 1.40 unsigned anywhere, and the ROM *wouldn't* update with any other version (1.37unsigned, 1.38 signed or 1.24mfg)
Using DiamondCustomRUU that came with 1.37, I copied the 1.93 HardSPL into its folder (this updated the SPL via a hard reset), and then used the RUU that came with the Official Update.

Upgrading Rom of already upgraded Uni... Unlock again?

So, I got my hand on an Uni G4 (xda exec) that has 6.5 on it... I want to downgrade to the Tmo UK WM5 rom.
How do I know if I have to unlock the sim and cid (again)?
Under what circumstances would the sim and/or cid be re-locked (after it had been unlocked)?
And how do I know if I should do a DOC format? I see that there are a few ROMs that once installed require a DOC format if you want to change the ROM again.
And I did search the forums first, and could find the answers I need. I'm still checking up on the ROM that is currently installed on my Uni - 5.2.23016 (5.3.0 Luca16)
TIA!

Once it has flashed the 1st cooked ROM it has to be full unlocked, no need to do it again so you can downgrade without any problem os locking sim.
Have a look here to get one great wm5 ROM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=549207
Hope it helped,

Awsome!
Thanks!