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overwhelmed

hi,
i recently got a xda trion and it's my 1st ppc. since i'm quite experienced with PCs i thought it would take me probably two days to get my device in a state that makes me happy. well,.... far from it ; )
i am completely overwhelmed at the moment and the worst thing is.... everywhere i go i notice that i lack the basic knowledge to join the conversation. since i get personally quite easy annoyed by rtfm-newbie questions i am in a starnge situation right now. i know that if i'd bite the bullet and read and work through everything related i will pretty soon master most of the required skills. i just really don't have that kind of sparetime at the moment. so maybe someone can give me a little shortcut and point me to the right places.
1st, i basically need a good foundation. until yesterday i havent heard anything about kitchens, romcooking and all that. is there a place where the basics are explained for dummies?
and now my actual problem. my device came with a german WM5 by O2. and it's causing already some problems. (paths not found by skinning application etc.) since my PC OS is also english I'd like to change it on my PPC. So I want to make a exact backup of my devices OS in case of some warranty issue and then install a english OS. one thing i dont know at all... does O2 usually try to prevent such action. for example by including some essential files which do not come with a clena install, but are required to use the phone with O2 as a carrier. I hope that was not too confusiong.
so... i would be very happy if someone could point me into the right directions, so that my waste of time by looking in the wrong places stays to a minimum.... and maybe letting me know about any problems that i might naturally run into when trying the above mentioned : )
thanks alot for your time
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ummmm... one more thing. i spent hours yesterday to find some information on how to record phoneconversations. i cannot believe that there is really no way to do that with such a device. anyhow... the info i found was quite scattered and some of it seemed dated. what is the current status on this?
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aaargh... : ) why didn't i see this earlier. I guess most of my questions will be answered in the WIKI !!! Well, I was only checking out the FAQ which was kinda thin that's why I asked here : )thnanks
thanks

http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=355

xda orbit running wm6pro...noob help plz

ive just got my xda orbit
its running windows mobile 6 pro
im new to smart phones as my last phone was an n70
but i know my computers (comptia a+ and network+)
just wanted to know what i can do with this thing
ref homebrew software, cracked software ect
but in noob language plz as im not familiar with all the shorted terms ect
cheers guys/gals

xda-orbit-wm6 said:
ive just got my xda orbit
its running windows mobile 6 pro
im new to smart phones as my last phone was an n70
but i know my computers (comptia a+ and network+)
just wanted to know what i can do with this thing
ref homebrew software, cracked software ect
but in noob language plz as im not familiar with all the shorted terms ect
cheers guys/gals
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Regarding software, best bet would be to ask for something specific, and before asking, check through the forums to see if anyone else hasn't asked, or just released something you want.
cracked software will not get discussed here, if you want something like that, there are plenty of places on the web to look, but that discussion here isn't acceptable.
best bet would be to look through the custom(cooked) roms and see what you like, both Meschle and Tom have good roms out which add extra functionality to your phone.
I'm using Meschles Touch 3.01 (without cube) at the moment, very nice and complete, i'd read through the first few pages of the thread to get a few hints and tips also.
Have fun

i know what you mean
but i want like a noobs guide into what everything means
as what i know as a rom doesnt seem to mean the same thing when regards to phones
ive taken a guess at cooked means homebrew
just an idiots insite would be helpful
many thanks for your reply
adam

xda-orbit-wm6 said:
i want like a noobs guide into what everything means
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I don't much care where" - Said Alice in Wonderland, "so long as I get somewhere".
"Then it does not matter which way you go", answered the Cheshire Cat.
Be more specific, like software for your PC there are 1001 different kinds of software and ways to use a handheld device. I myself use it mainly for navigation, adressbook, agenda, 'gameboy', Radio/MP3 Player, an occasional (GPS localised)photo and of course telephone and SMS. The herefound personalized Roms give you some extra options which often are mentioned in the first post in the corresponding threads.
Try to get hands on the manual, read the wiki/stickys and reconsider what you are asking .

As a starting point, i'd recommend you check out http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Artemis

Use 4GB sd card in HTC P3300

Is possible to inform me some if it is possible to use a 4 GB SD card in my PDA without any problem?

If its running WM6 as the OS then SDHC cards will work 4GB, 6GB and 8GB - Mike

mikealder said:
If its running WM6 as the OS then SDHC cards will work 4GB, 6GB and 8GB - Mike
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That's not right.
You need bepe's fix or a ROM with bepe's fix in order to make the SDHC work.
You didn't search for the answer, so I'm going to tell you something you can search for in this forum.
There's a .cab (WM installation) file which you can use to make SDHC work on your device.

I am sorry you think that I am wrong, However, I can assure you I do have a HTC as supplied ROM running WM6 it is not a "Bepe" sepcial not did I have to install the CAB file it simply works ROM is 3,13,405,1 WWE dated 08/28/07 - Mike

Don't give information that has 0,00001% chance to work.
Just read the older SDHC topics in this forum.
e.g.: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=310456&highlight=sdhc

mikealder said:
I am sorry you think that I am wrong, However, I can assure you I do have a HTC as supplied ROM running WM6 it is not a "Bepe" sepcial not did I have to install the CAB file it simply works ROM is 3,13,405,1 WWE dated 08/28/07 - Mike
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Some people say they got a non-standard 4 GB non-micro-SDHC card. If it's NOT a SDHC card it will work in WM5 and WM6 regardless of any SDHC patch. Since you didn't say anything about that your information about your pda is probably true. Most people will buy SDHC cards (without knowing what that means) and therefore TryOG is right.

here ya go.
No need to start arguements and discussions over something when all they asked was for a bit of help. We were all quite new once, and sometimes forgot / neglected to use / or didnt know about the search feature.

So, whats the max capacity for a SDHC card for use in the Artemis? I've seen some on www.mymemory.co.uk which go up to 16gig! ! !
fubofo = PM me an email addy that you have linked to Paypal (if you use Paypal!) and I will buy you a couple pints as promised.

very thank you
i bought a 4 gb micro cd this morning but it's doesn´t work ,after apply the cab every fine.
i have a artemis with wm6
thena for the help.
long life to the forum

Just for information: I set up balck and blue 5 on my spv m650 and kingston 4GB sdhc works fine, without any modifications.

I used to frequent this forum a lot a few years ago when I had an O2 XDA II. It was great, lot's of helpful friendly people and a lot of fun too as we tried different things with ROM's etc.
Last couple of years though I moved to a Blackberry which was issued as part of my kit when I changed jobs. No PPC so I didn't view the forum for a long time.
Last month however I changed jobs again, handed in the Blackberry and bought myself a Dopod P800W returning to the PPC platform.
Thought I also return to the old haunt, ask a few questions and learn a bit more about the Dopod unit and what has happened in the filed of PPC's while I was away.
Well folks I can tell you the forum has changed. In reviewing the posts I was amazed at the number of times people answer a simple question with a somewhat aggressive response of "you haven't searched the forum!" type comment.
I posted some questions about my Dopod and though over 60 people read it, no one, not one person offered an answer.
So my advice is lighten up a bit and enjoy the interaction of sharing with people. We can all use a hand every now and then, who knows you may even make some friends.

It Works for me !!!
i faced the same issue of 4 GB card not getting recognized in my new P3300 (whereas the seller told me that it supports 4 GB). Anyways thanks a millon tons !!! for the cab. My P3300 now is recognizing the micro SDHC card. And yes , i am using Sandisk MicroSDHC card.

4GB Card
Hi .. I have a P3300 with WM5. Will this accept a 4GB SDHC card ? i tried the patch spoken about earlier, but i guess its only for WM6. I lost access to my Storage Card completely ...... even the old one

MOIJHB said:
Hi .. I have a P3300 with WM5. Will this accept a 4GB SDHC card ? i tried the patch spoken about earlier, but i guess its only for WM6. I lost access to my Storage Card completely ...... even the old one
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I'm using 8gb on my orbit so no problem at all

one of my senoir in office using o2 XDA with WM6 and have tried using this SDHC thing but could not make it work.. i think its not just OS dependent, it also depends on the ppc hardware. whether the mobile slot supports that or not matters i guess

Agree, mate...
Thanks for the link....

woeijing83 said:
I'm using 8gb on my orbit so no problem at all
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what abt o2 xda

mybonny said:
Agree, mate...
Thanks for the link....
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agree to whom?

ednap said:
I used to frequent this forum a lot a few years ago when I had an O2 XDA II. It was great, lot's of helpful friendly people and a lot of fun too as we tried different things with ROM's etc.
Last couple of years though I moved to a Blackberry which was issued as part of my kit when I changed jobs. No PPC so I didn't view the forum for a long time.
Last month however I changed jobs again, handed in the Blackberry and bought myself a Dopod P800W returning to the PPC platform.
Thought I also return to the old haunt, ask a few questions and learn a bit more about the Dopod unit and what has happened in the filed of PPC's while I was away.
Well folks I can tell you the forum has changed. In reviewing the posts I was amazed at the number of times people answer a simple question with a somewhat aggressive response of "you haven't searched the forum!" type comment.
I posted some questions about my Dopod and though over 60 people read it, no one, not one person offered an answer.
So my advice is lighten up a bit and enjoy the interaction of sharing with people. We can all use a hand every now and then, who knows you may even make some friends.
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I agree mate, its changed a lot since the good old days and whilst collectively there is a lot more help out here many of the people feel its below them or something, i think the problem is two fold, firstly free loaders that take everything and offer nothing, like not even responding to your question, secondly there are so many more people on here now i think its became to big which is partly why people just say search the forums, i think its a shame its got this way but as they say, evolution doesnt always equal positive progress.

arinjayw said:
what abt o2 xda
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i have an O2 Orbit Running WM 6.1 with an 8GB class 4 Micro SD card and it works fine, no probs bob.

Looking for help with Tilt 2 w/broken mic.

My first Tilt 2 got some water damage and no longer has microphone ability. Can anyone cook me up a rom with no phone stuff? A tilt tablet so to speak. It does everything else perfectly even bluetooth works and will handle calls. But as you all can see this streak is my main device. I would like to outfit it with tts and other augmentive communications for my Autistic boy. A mini computer so to speak. It is already running roms as I am no stranger here. Maybe ondra can give this a whirl. My axim is mint but aging in the view of froyo on my Streak. It is not suited for the task of mini pc. A nice Rom with no phone apps and no drivers pointing to the radio.... No radio... What have you. You guys would know better than me.
Any help would be appreciated. Funds are tight. But just ask anyone, I'm not shy with donations.
Thanks for reading.
Sent from my Dell Streak using XDA App

why not just take the sim card out? everything will still work except the phone and texting. the internet will still work if u have a wifi connection.

OMG!
Why of course What a Simple Solution!....
You obviously miss the entire scope of WHY ROM building exists my friend. With the ability to have a cooked Rom on a smaller footprint within the device. Smaller Roms can free up pagepool memory with the right kitchen and cook. Apps can be installed into ROMS. Heck even tweaked to be more "embedded" into the OS or the GUI etc etc... do I really have to get into all of it with you...? I mean come on, why are you here if you don't know "why" XDA exists?
Anyone can workaround this idea..... I want to streamline the ROM as I have done with the Axim X51v in the past. Heck I'm even putting a new Rom on that Axim AS, I type this.... and my other Fully working Tilt later today....
Where do you think my SIM card was and is, when I started my thread from my STREAK?
Uh, Hello! Thanks for your reply though!

Honestly what's with the attitude? You could have just said that instead of going off on one just because he/she suggested something!
OK you want a ROM without all the phones stuffs to free more ROM/RAM but was there any need for your attitude in your reply??
I mean come on, why are you here...
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Why are you here if you can't be more civilized against another members reply, whether it is not what you're looking for or not... You could have quite easily said his/hers reply was of no help to you

The perceived attitude comes from the evident lack of Internet Etiquette.... Civilized.... Read on Man You 2 aren't even following simple forum rules and common sense.
To answer your question directly..."You could have just said that instead of going off"
THAT "WAS" STATED in the first post! My Goodness another one!
Had the individual bothered to exercise simple courtesy through reading - they would have read this excerpt.... from the first post. and NOT asked it in his reply.
I wrote... "as you all can see, this streak is my main device"
This indicates that the SIM CARD IS indeed in my streak and not inside the damaged Tilt 2. The existence of the text itself conveys my desire to have this information KNOWN to the reader.
I end with this... Sent from my Dell Streak using XDA App
This also confirms that I am on the STREAK writing the post from the device containing the SIM Card.
Do you get that.... ? They ignore the REASON XDA EXISTS... and the SECTION HEADER ENTITLED MOBILE SOFTWARE DEVELOPMENT. He ignores the CONTENT of the thread and DISCARDS the FACTS of the MATTER within my post.
HE then asks me a question that was and would have been answered for him... already had he exercised simple internet etiquette.
And then look at you... you come on and Say.. WHy didn't you just say that.... You ask me to REPEAT MYSELF!
Well, I did by referencing the first post instead of hand holding and typing it all again!!!! Mind you friend, YOU SKIPPED OVER IT TOO. Now that's 2 of you.. off topic and asking for hand-holding.
So do me the favor and stop ignoring common sense, forum and internet etiquette, the topic and category section titles... and then ask someone to hold your hand and explain it... When it WAS ALREADY EXPLAINED.... Do you see the problem here?
I asked for ROM development help at XDA in Windows Mobile Development...
His question and post would not have existed if he and YOU bothered to note. WHERE we are, Where I posted... and What the Facts of the case were.
Simple... I'm not being rude, nor do I have an attitude... These thing cannot be inferred or gleaned through TEXT. I'm just pointing out the truth. How you handle said truth is not my affair.
Although I appreciate you chiming in... Please if you cannot help me with my REQUEST that I have posted in the appropriate place... I'd like to reserve the commentary to those who wish to help out and talk about COOKING up a STREAMLINED ROM for my AUTISTIC BOY to get more out of the device in it's current state. I do not wish to be called to view every reply that is as out of touch as the two of these are.
If anyone wishes to mull over the particulars of the START of the thread and haggle about it in such a way as depicted in the previous posts that are in reply... please start your own thread and I will link to it. This way everyone else who chooses to "NOT" read the THREAD STARTING POST and UNDERSTAND my request will have a place that they can all be confused together and ignore each other in peace.
I did not post... Hey what can I do with my Tilt 2 in the general forums, now did I?

I'll say one thing:
This is WINDOWS MOBILE SOFTWARE DEVELOPMENT forum yeah?
you are looking to have a ROM for your TILT 2?
Why not post in here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=490
Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development
And since you want a ROM DEVELOPED for you, try posting it in the correct forum?
I don't want to go to your level of Incompetence but it seems I had to....

This is not development, it's a request. Does not belong here. If you were making a ROM and had something to share, then perhaps, though a device forum would be better to use.
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[Q] Help out a fellow amatuer too new technology?

Hey guys i am both new too this forum and new too owning a great phone, i have the galaxy mini samsung and upgraded too note 2 becus it was cheap and insanly good.
now my problem is thought that i need to quickly learn whats what around the corners.
First of all can anyone give me some link too where i can find out what the defenition of the ROM i keep seen and small tips and tricks too handle my phone with care and dont distroy it the first day of useage?
like how to fiddle with it without making a neverend way back and need to buy a new one if this is the case if not i quess i can always recovery the unit but still would be cool too get some tutorials for customnizing my phone .
i posted a similar post on another phone i dont know how to find it again any tip on this see what i write all in 1 list ?

google all the way

Sorry, as a member of the grammar police force, I am unable to help you.
Sent from my GT-N7100 using XDA Premium HD app

the point is
my english isnt the best but its damn not that terrible either, sir please hold you're comment for youre self if its only complaints
i tried too be kind and ask for help by more experienced people and known facts but if you refere me too google it then why do you guys ahve this forum at all? really the point is?
i ask for a service open minded and you guys blew me off just like that?
now anyone else know about what the rom and these handy tips that can be EXPLAINED in a more mannered way and not these retailers talk bull**** and just go straight too the point?
Chronosphere out!

Hello!
I'd urge you to first take a look at the Note II Toolkit, click here to find it. With that, you should first do two things before you start modifying your phone:
1) Using the toolkit, make a full Nandroid backup of your phone so you have a backup of it on your PC in case something goes wrong.
2) Also backup the EFS, you can do that with the toolkit too! EFS backup backs up the IMEI information and a whole lot of other very very important things that you may need in the future if something goes wrong with your phone.
After you have done those things, you should explain here more clearly what it is you would like to know more about, because I think the people who have read this thread aren't sure about what it is you're asking for! Lots of helpful people here but you should explain a bit more clearly! I will help as much as I can.

Thanks man This is what i needed too hear, just a tiny beginner guide on how to do backups is always nice and this is exellent service !
yes next time i shall not be as grumpy either plus my "slam typings " is understandable if you not only just follow what it says but understand what each word means its clearly says i want too know how to costumnize my phone and i would like help with this ..xD but hey next time

If you ask specific questions and use just a bit more punctuation, we can help you out. I know getting the hang of the Android development scene can be difficult, so feel free to ask, and make the most of the guides on the top of the boards.
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You don't have to be 100% grammatically correct. But buddy this is an International forum where as per forum rules only English is allowed.
I'm an Indian, you know the national language here is Hindi, my mother tongue is Bengali, so in that sense English is my third language, but I hate it when I see someone else posting here with non English language or bragging about how to use another language on their Note 2.
Sorry, I just couldn't resist myself, but have absolutely no intention to abuse/insult you.
Swyped from my GT-N7100