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Tutorial for BEFORE ugrading from WM5 to WM6.

Yes, we're all noobs!!!
I have a brand new Excalibur (I bricked my first one five mins. out of the box) and I attempt to upgrade following instructions on the tutorial posted on these forums.
What's not stated on said tutorial (and no one tells you, only after you bricked your phone) is that YOU MUST BACK UP YOUR ORIGINAL ROM before the upgrade, because if anything goes wrong, that is the only ROM you can flash to your phone to restore it, otherwise IT IS BRICKED. (Believe me, it happened to me).
So, to all you experts reading these, please, help us noobs and post here a complete guide on how to back up your original ROM.
We will thank and worship you forever!!!

These days, there is no need to backup your own Rom.
We have a collection of ROMs on this site alone. Or in my signature.
I do suggest to download one prior to updating your ROM.
This forum uses most of a collection of ROM i have uploaded for everyone.
Click here for the forum of original ROMS

Mikey1022 said:
These days, there is no need to backup your own Rom.
We have a collection of ROMs on this site alone. Or in my signature.
I do suggest to download one prior to updating your ROM.
This forum uses most of a collection of ROM i have uploaded for everyone.
Click here for the forum of original ROMS
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I have two questions: Firstly, there is no official O2 Xda Cosmo ROM or? Secondly, if you back up the ROM first, how can you flash it back to the device? Is there a tutorial for this?
Thanks

READ this thread

uccellino said:
I have two questions: Firstly, there is no official O2 Xda Cosmo ROM or? Secondly, if you back up the ROM first, how can you flash it back to the device? Is there a tutorial for this?
Thanks
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yeah i'm waiting for the official O2 Xda cosmo ROM. i need it badly because my camera doesn't work anymore with new ROM. and i am totally agree to write a clear reminder to backup your original ROM first before upgrading in the upgrading ROM thread. just in case for noob like me....

Mikey1022 said:
READ this thread
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After rereading, I still have the questions:
1. How is it possible to flash back a saved backup ROM image?
2. If I use a USPL and then something goes wrong while flashing a cooked ROM, can I only re-flash my original ROM (i.e. for XDA Cosmo which doesn't exist)?
Thanks

Okay - maybe I just figured out the answer to my own question: if I flash the USPL-RUU first before flashing a ROM update, maybe this means I can reflash if something goes wrong? Is this correct, or is there a chance that the SPL get overwritten before the error and I still get stuck?

Well, in fact, it is necessary...
Mikey1022 said:
These days, there is no need to backup your own Rom.
We have a collection of ROMs on this site alone. Or in my signature.
I do suggest to download one prior to updating your ROM.
This forum uses most of a collection of ROM i have uploaded for everyone.
Click here for the forum of original ROMS
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...When I mean original ROM, I mean the ROM that could only work on a CID-Locked-by-a-carrier Excalibur, not the HTC WW ROM release.
Also, many of us noobs are international, I doubt that on the ROM database on this website we'll be able to find, say, the Movistar Mexico HTC Excalibur WM5 1.15.0000 ROM, which in my case, is the only one I would be able to flash in case anything goes wrong on the upgrade attempt. (I dedicated a week searching this ROM for the first Excalibur I bricked, no results)
Therefore - and I really hate to contradict -, for many of us, a ROM backup IS necessary and a tutorial from you experts on how to do it would be a great, great contribution to this community. (And also to the database, 'cause I'll definitively upload my ROM once I back it up)

velascoperroni said:
...When I mean original ROM, I mean the ROM that could only work on a CID-Locked-by-a-carrier Excalibur, not the HTC WW ROM release.
Also, many of us noobs are international, I doubt that on the ROM database on this website we'll be able to find, say, the Movistar Mexico HTC Excalibur WM5 1.15.0000 ROM, which in my case, is the only one I would be able to flash in case anything goes wrong on the upgrade attempt. (I dedicated a week searching this ROM for the first Excalibur I bricked, no results)
Therefore - and I really hate to contradict -, for many of us, a ROM backup IS necessary and a tutorial from you experts on how to do it would be a great, great contribution to this community. (And also to the database, 'cause I'll definitively upload my ROM once I back it up)
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Actually, it's quite easy to CID unlock your phone to load whatever ROM you want. Much easier in fact, than dumping your current ROM and restoring it. I was able to flash my first ROM within about 30 minutes of reading on this forum, and had no problems at all.

velascoperroni said:
...When I mean original ROM, I mean the ROM that could only work on a CID-Locked-by-a-carrier Excalibur, not the HTC WW ROM release.
Also, many of us noobs are international, I doubt that on the ROM database on this website we'll be able to find, say, the Movistar Mexico HTC Excalibur WM5 1.15.0000 ROM, which in my case, is the only one I would be able to flash in case anything goes wrong on the upgrade attempt. (I dedicated a week searching this ROM for the first Excalibur I bricked, no results)
Therefore - and I really hate to contradict -, for many of us, a ROM backup IS necessary and a tutorial from you experts on how to do it would be a great, great contribution to this community. (And also to the database, 'cause I'll definitively upload my ROM once I back it up)
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I completely agree with you
I just have no idea how to restore a backed-up ROM and I haven't read anything saying how to do it either. As you say, many of us a stuck with devices CID locked to some international ROM that is impossible to get.
So once again the question: Does anyone know how to re-flash a backed-up ROM?

I'm no expert but all I'm going to say is this. If you have a Rom from a different carrier that has not leaked to the public, then you are probably out of luck. You take the risk of hoping your phone will not have serious problems down the line of your contract or usage. You should pick up insurance on your phone depending on the stipulations your carrier has about lost or stolen or even broken phones. In that case you could return/replace your phone if need be after modifying it to your liking. I also would suggest that the entire reason we are here is that we don't want to be like the norm. We want what we paid for and don't want to be restricted. It's a risk. You must make that choice and succeed or fail that's not anyone's problem but your own. With all the Roms out there you should find one to your liking. If you brick your phone which seems so much more difficult than my razr modding days, than sell it for parts and lesson learned.
In the U.S. the Open Headset Alliance is our future so what we do to our phones in the future will be our choice.
Good Modding
Pfunk

C'mon guys...
Wy all the negativity?
I'm I conspiring against copyright laws if I want to have a backup of the ROM I paid for?
Is backing up a ROM frowned upon on this community? or is it so easy (from what I can gather it requires "dumping" and "restoring") that it is even insulting for me to ask you how to do it?
Yes, we are all here because we don't conform to the norm, but we are all HERE to help each other out. Why the closure? Why the elitism?
Like all of you, I want to take full advantage of the piece of technology I acquired without the restrictions installed on them by the phone corps. Yes, I would like to have the minimum risks while doing so, and yes, I would like to do it as cost effective as I can, just as anyone of you would.
It is a risk to upgrade a Cid.Locked phone with the bypass provided on this website, It happened to me and to many: USB cord unplugs and voila, bricked phone.
One alternative is to pay $40 bucks for a permanent Cid.Unlock, which will allow you to flash and flash and flash, even if you get stuck in the middle of one process.
The other, used by many here who wont pay, is to use the Cid bypass, while having a backup original rom "just in case".
What I only ask (for myself and my peer noobs) is to have this same other alternative as many, many of you.
Really, is it to hard to post the following?
1. Downoad these softwares;
2. Do this to "dump";
3. Do that to "restore";
4. To re-flash, do this.
C'mon, all for one and one for all right?
p.s. For my friend asking how to re-flash a backed up ROM, from what I've gathered, it goes something like this: your backed up ROM must be in a *.bn format (I still don't know how to even achieve this); then you must get a hold of any HTC RUU Software, extract it (Winrar) and replace the *.bn file inside the extracted folder with your *.bn file; with the HTC connected in bootloader mode, run the exe file in the extracted folder.

velascoperroni said:
...I doubt that on the ROM database on this website we'll be able to find, say, the Movistar Mexico HTC Excalibur WM5 1.15.0000 ROM, which in my case, is the only one I would be able to flash in case anything goes wrong on the upgrade attempt. (I dedicated a week searching this ROM for the first Excalibur I bricked, no results)
Therefore - and I really hate to contradict -, for many of us, a ROM backup IS necessary and a tutorial from you experts on how to do it would be a great, great contribution to this community. (And also to the database, 'cause I'll definitively upload my ROM once I back it up)
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The Official ROMs collection is as full as I can make it. To have more images, we need everyone to upload ones that are missing to something like rapidshare, mediafire, or one of a few dozen other hosting sites, then tell up here on xda dev. Or upload it to several yourself. Spreading things on the net is much easier than ripping the ROM out anyway, and you benefit from the online backups, too.
So, yes, if you aren't going to back up your ROM, hope that someone else already has. Or, even better, be that first guy who does it, to make things easier for the rest of us. Besides, we might want to see what kinda goodies are tucked in the Movistar version

Indeed!
Profezza said:
...Or, even better, be that first guy who does it, to make things easier for the rest of us. Besides, we might want to see what kinda goodies are tucked in the Movistar version
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Thanks for the support Profezza, indeed I intend to be the first, but in order to do that, I need to know how to do it.
I'll keep my hopes up for someone to post here the procedure for backing up my own ROM.
Also, the Movistar version is pretty lame, at least it would be a language addition to the database since it is originally in Spanish.

velascoperroni said:
Thanks for the support Profezza, indeed I intend to be the first, but in order to do that, I need to know how to do it.
I'll keep my hopes up for someone to post here the procedure for backing up my own ROM.
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My post kinda ignored that point, as... I don't actually know how it is done.
velascoperroni said:
Also, the Movistar version is pretty lame, at least it would be a language addition to the database since it is originally in Spanish.
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I think the version # system is controlled by HTC and fairly consistent across brandings, so it looks like it is a rather old one, but yeah, it could handy just for the Spanish. And ya never know, maybe a better graphic or two in some odd corner. I'll come back and bump this if it looks like it is fading away.

velascoperroni said:
p.s. For my friend asking how to re-flash a backed up ROM, from what I've gathered, it goes something like this: your backed up ROM must be in a *.bn format (I still don't know how to even achieve this); then you must get a hold of any HTC RUU Software, extract it (Winrar) and replace the *.bn file inside the extracted folder with your *.bn file; with the HTC connected in bootloader mode, run the exe file in the extracted folder.
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Hi velascoperroni!
Thank you for your help - this is helping me to get closer to understanding
Basically I have my old ROM image as .img files (actually 5 of them) produced by bkondisk, together with a log file saying what goes where. So now all we need to figure out is how to turn these back into a .bn file and we'll be in business. For info on bkondisk, which lets you save your ROM (as .img files), see this wiki http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=bkondisk
Could anyone point me to some resources on these two file formats? Then maybe we could come up with a conversion program when one doesnt exist

Getting closer!
Great, it seems we are getting closer to our goal!!!
But still surprises me that no one has posted a complete how to... perhaps the only few who know the deal haven't read this thread yet.
Now we know the following:
1. Bkondisk: software that allows to backup ROM in *.img format.
2. The original format of the ROM is *.bn
We don't know if the *.img file needs to be converted to *.bn or if they are compatible.
I also found out about an easier method to re-flash the ROM:
1. Format your SD Card in FAT32;
2. Copy your *.bn file to your SD Card;
3. Turn off phone, insert SD Card, Turn on phone in bootloader mode;
4. The phone should automatically recognize the ROM and start the flashing process.
Uccelino: Try placing the *.img file in the SD Card instead of the *.bn file. Maybe, just maybe the phone also recognizes *img files!

Getting closer!
Great, it seems we are getting closer to our goal!!!
But still surprises me that no one has posted a complete how to... perhaps the only few who know the deal haven't read this thread yet.
Now we know the following:
1. Bkondisk: software that allows to backup ROM in *.img format.
2. The original format of the ROM is *.bn
We don't know if the *.img file needs to be converted to *.bn or if they are compatible.
I also found out about an easier method to re-flash the ROM:
1. Format your SD Card in FAT32;
2. Copy your *.bin file to your SD Card;
3. Turn off phone, insert SD Card, Turn on phone in bootloader mode.
4. The phone should automatically recognize the ROM and start the flashing process.
Uccelino: Try placing the *.img file in the SD Card instead of the *.bin file. Maybe, just maybe the phone also recognizes *img files!

Also...
Sorry for the double post back there!!
Also check out this thread I started when I bricked my first Excalibur:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=378050
I never got a feasible response to wether sprite backup would work or not, and I did not want to spend $30 bucks to find out.

velascoperroni said:
Great, it seems we are getting closer to our goal!!!
But still surprises me that no one has posted a complete how to... perhaps the only few who know the deal haven't read this thread yet.
Now we know the following:
1. Bkondisk: software that allows to backup ROM in *.img format.
2. The original format of the ROM is *.bn
We don't know if the *.img file needs to be converted to *.bn or if they are compatible.
I also found out about an easier method to re-flash the ROM:
1. Format your SD Card in FAT32;
2. Copy your *.bin file to your SD Card;
3. Turn off phone, insert SD Card, Turn on phone in bootloader mode.
4. The phone should automatically recognize the ROM and start the flashing process.
Uccelino: Try placing the *.img file in the SD Card instead of the *.bin file. Maybe, just maybe the phone also recognizes *img files!
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I just had an idea: I will flash a ROM, back it up, and compare the *.bn files to the *.img files I get from backing up - maybe they are or are almost the same, and we can convert them
I will try. Thanks

Quick How-To for gps/rev a flash/upgrade

ok well i just made up this list a while ago to help someone out, and have ended up giving it to quite a few ppl now, so i figured i might as well post it here under an appropriate title for all to easily see and access.
i know dharvey wrote a great tutorial, and that there are prob others, but..what the heck. plus this is pretty quick and easy, though i cant say that it is as full and thought out and great as dharvey4651's (thx man!)...
IMPORTANT!!! ONLY SPRINT users follow below steps 5 and 8-11!! Altell users can follow all the steps except step 5 as long as they use a different ppst.exe, not the one mentioned below.
"#1- Backup all pim info and anything else you might want.
#2- Ensure you are currently running your carriers original official oem rom (os and radio) (if you have never flashed it at all then dont worry youre good to go).
#3- Unlock using imcokemans 2.31 unlocker (this for gps roms)
#4- run the sprint leaked rom.exe (here, close to the bottom where it says "original rom")
#5- SPRINT ONLY:allow all customizations to complete and run (i know - it takes a lil while)
#6- flash to desired rom.
#7- after she's all booted up, hard-reset.
#8- download and run cab from here (altell users run your own ppst stuff on the same post, non-sprint and non-altell users SKIP TO STEP 12): http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showpost.php?p=282955&postcount=139
#9- allow soft-rest.
#10- navigate to \windows folder and run ppst.exe
#11- allow soft reset.
#12- allow boot-up, customize, restore pim info etc...
credit to boggsie"

didnt use unlocker
I just ran the leaked ROM upgrade. It found my phone and flashed it. I never ran any of the SPL unlockers. Should I be worried about not being able to unlock later, or have trouble flashing an 'Official' release?

d1rtyd33z said:
I just ran the leaked ROM upgrade. It found my phone and flashed it. I never ran any of the SPL unlockers. Should I be worried about not being able to unlock later, or have trouble flashing an 'Official' release?
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hey nope you'll be just fine, assuming that you arent going to flash to a custom rom. what is your current spl? you just will not be able to flash a custom rom until you unlock.

what happened to the link for the leaked rom ????

avalanchedude said:
what happened to the link for the leaked rom ????
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oops lol must not have copied over quite right and how i wanted...updated first post
thanks.

HI i have been reading alot on this new rom, will this work on bell and also is there a way to "backup" the current bell rom so that way we can "undo" what we have done to get back to original in case we ever need to? thanks again for everyones hard work.

hi all .....im newbie...using htc touch 2nd gen.... how to unlock the gps in my fon???

Hi All. I just recieved my touch last week and like the phone alot. I have flshed my old phone ( old I-mate PDA) a few times with files from here and it worked great.
But with the Touch you guys are talking about different kinds of touch phones. Where do I check what kind do I have. I am from South Africa and use MTN as my SP.
Will I be able to use the GPS ( Seen it in other threads)
Thank you for your help
Beast

how can I backup my phone?
I never flashed it before, its a Sprint Touch 2007 October.

A50SNAKE said:
HI i have been reading alot on this new rom, will this work on bell and also is there a way to "backup" the current bell rom so that way we can "undo" what we have done to get back to original in case we ever need to? thanks again for everyones hard work.
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check on the ppcgeeks ftp, im pretty sure the stock bell rom/radio has been placed somewhere there.
jhanz said:
hi all .....im newbie...using htc touch 2nd gen.... how to unlock the gps in my fon???
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just read my post! so who is your carrier? when you say 2nd gen, it makes me think your touch is gsm...is that the case?
Da_Beast said:
Hi All. I just recieved my touch last week and like the phone alot. I have flshed my old phone ( old I-mate PDA) a few times with files from here and it worked great.
But with the Touch you guys are talking about different kinds of touch phones. Where do I check what kind do I have. I am from South Africa and use MTN as my SP.
Will I be able to use the GPS ( Seen it in other threads)
Thank you for your help
Beast
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im....not really sure. being on a different continent i dont think it would work the same, unless you were able to find a separate radio only rom for your carrier, in which case you could flash whatever rom you wanted (w/o letting the cusomizations run on first boot), then flash your carriers os only rom, then be good to go!
yrsmart said:
how can I backup my phone?
I never flashed it before, its a Sprint Touch 2007 October.
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what exactly are you trying to back up?

jim256 said:
what exactly are you trying to back up?
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contacts, my documents and appz if possible

yrsmart said:
contacts, my documents and appz if possible
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google and download pim backup
actually...you could just synchronize with active sync, and have it sync your contacts, calendar, and files?

new PPST direct link
This post should be a sticky!!!!
This works perfectly except for the fact that the link to ppcgeeks on #8 is busted. What is missing from that link is the file for ppst.exe. I beat my brains in trying to get the stupid gps to work before I finally realized what was missing from my install.
Here is the PPST file from sprint that you do in fact need to make the gps work great. I lock onto the gps sats in about 15 seconds, in my house, to about 9 of em.
http://www.box.net/shared/static/jk3xpkwwg0.zip

flashing cmda phone different from gsm?
Hi All,
I just got my new sprint vogue to replace my t-mobile wizard. I flashed my wizard extensively over the past 2 years but I'm not sure about the Vogue. How does a cmda phone retain its network settings and network contact info if it is flashed when theres no sim card? I'm not talking about PIM info but the info the phone uses to identify itself and communicate with the network.
thanks
Lotus

This worked great. It was my first time flashing and following these instructions everything worked out well and I get locked into satellites with the gps very fast. Thank you.

i have a couple questions. 1st is i have a sprint touch flashed to cricket if i were to install this rom will all my cricket settings stay intact or will i have to reflash to cricket? 2nd does this rom include WM6.1 along with gps, and rev. A?
thanks for any help.

lehrfeld said:
Hi All,
I just got my new sprint vogue to replace my t-mobile wizard. I flashed my wizard extensively over the past 2 years but I'm not sure about the Vogue. How does a cmda phone retain its network settings and network contact info if it is flashed when theres no sim card? I'm not talking about PIM info but the info the phone uses to identify itself and communicate with the network.
thanks
Lotus
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i must say that im not exactly sure how. but i can say that...it just does. if you flash a different radio rom...then you can be in trouble if it is not for your carrier. but we are discussing os only roms here and the network settings are therefore not really affected
and ps for you too, dont allow any files named "ppst.exe" to be run, unless you are sure they are for your carrier
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i have a couple questions. 1st is i have a sprint touch flashed to cricket if i were to install this rom will all my cricket settings stay intact or will i have to reflash to cricket? 2nd does this rom include WM6.1 along with gps, and rev. A?
thanks for any help.
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ok so..no specific rom is being discussed here. this is just a how-to for what/e rom you want.
and no you should not have to re-flash to cricket as long as you only flash an os-only rom, a rom that does not have a radio included, and you never allow any files named "ppst.exe" to be executed.
but most all the roms that you can flash using these instructions do have 6.1 with gps and rev a yes

BigRed Productions said:
This post should be a sticky!!!!
This works perfectly except for the fact that the link to ppcgeeks on #8 is busted. What is missing from that link is the file for ppst.exe. I beat my brains in trying to get the stupid gps to work before I finally realized what was missing from my install.
Here is the PPST file from sprint that you do in fact need to make the gps work great. I lock onto the gps sats in about 15 seconds, in my house, to about 9 of em.
http://www.box.net/shared/static/jk3xpkwwg0.zip
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thanks for pointing out the borken link
link fixed/first post slightly updated.

jim256 said:
i must say that im not exactly sure how. but i can say that...it just does. if you flash a different radio rom...then you can be in trouble if it is not for your carrier. but we are discussing os only roms here and the network settings are therefore not really affected
and ps for you too, dont allow any files named "ppst.exe" to be run, unless you are sure they are for your carrier
ok so..no specific rom is being discussed here. this is just a how-to for what/e rom you want.
and no you should not have to re-flash to cricket as long as you only flash an os-only rom, a rom that does not have a radio included, and you never allow any files named "ppst.exe" to be executed.
but most all the roms that you can flash using these instructions do have 6.1 with gps and rev a yes
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ok so what if i wanted to use a custom rom made using the leaked sprint rom that has the MMS program included i should be fine as long as no "ppst.exe" file run during the install?
thanks for the help

HELP: when i try to load the v3[1].02.rar it asks for a password?????
if i use spb backup to restore in the last step, will that screw things up, since it reinstalls programs, etc as well????

First time installing what do ya think?

Like the title says this is my virgin flash. So what do you guys think should be my first ROM? I've looked at a bunch.
Looking for stability and style.
Just to get this correct I need to unlock my phone even though it's att and I'm using att. (Should I just unlock the CID or both)
Then I need to install HardSPL 7.1?
Then flash the ROM I choose.
Then load APPS as needed?
Thanks for the help!

Hardspl v7 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296722
I would unlock and supercid http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293665 then I ran hardspl again just to make sure, because unlocking changes the bootloader.
Then you should be good to go. Hardspl will help you in case you get a bad flash or bad rom, it's easier to recover. Supercid will allow to flash unsigned code (custom roms).
Looks like your on the right track, I'm just not sure where you got v7.1 for hardspl? That's why I included the links.

Also, "any rom you choose", but only from the Hermes forum. Flash a rom for another device means instant brick and you may not be able to recover it.
Hard SPL is a safety net only, there are NO guarantees you won't end up with a permanent brick, Hard SPL or no...
Most times you have to do something REALLY dumb to end up with a total brick but there is a miniscule chance, especially if you are playing around with the radio rom.
Happy flashing...

It was late last night and I couldn't remember if it was 7 or 7.1 lol. I'm charging the phone now. Gonna make sure it's nice and full then I'm gonna give it a shot. Thanks to you both for the help. I just needed to hear I was going about this the right way. I think I'll try one of Schaps ROM's first then try one of Josh's and see what I like about each. I've only got about 50 pages in on each so I'll read alittle more while the phone is charging. Thanks again!!
Oh wanted to ask also is there a Page or sticky just for Apps, skins, themes, and such or do I need to know what I'm looking for and search it?

Dang I thought my other phone had a microSD card in it.....turns out it's M2. Guess I'll stop on the way to work to pick one up. Non SDHC 2gb or less! Another question when it states now copy this to your phone....What file do I copy it to? (I'll head back to the Wiki and see if I can find that myself but figured I'd ask).

copy the RUU_signed.nbh and rename it hermimg.nbh the exe file is the flashing utility, and you don't need it if your flashing via the sd card.
make sure the card is formatted as fat32 (not fat).

Ok I did it the RUU way without the SD card. I'm now at 2.10.01 so I'm good. Now off to work and will hit the unlocker next. Thanks for the help!!

Ok unlock has been completed now I'm going to run Hardspl again. What about the radio I see that is has changed. Should I change that back to what it was at some point?

Ok I've done my first ROM flash wow! I grabbed Schap's WM6 Pro 4.31. I'll try it out and see if I like it. If not try another. Thanks again for helping me thru!

If you wish to risk changing the radio, do so but only if theres a problem. If the radio rom flash is interrupted, you will almost certainly have a brick on your hands.
Use the sd card method to flash so you then minimize the amount of problems you may have.
Remember though, if the radio rom is working fine, don't touch it....
Cheers...

boog321 said:
I would unlock and supercid http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293665 then I ran hardspl again just to make sure, because unlocking changes the bootloader.
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Hard-SPL makes your device appear as SuperCID... it's all you need.

vp3G said:
Hard-SPL makes your device appear as SuperCID... it's all you need.
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Ah, cool! Thanks, vp3G! I guess I took all the info wrong. Reading the 2 threads it wasn't clear. I guess my method worked though! haha

Yea, it's all quite confusing... Hard-SPL ended up negating the need to use pof's unlocker. Olipro is a friggin' genius (as is pof).

So all I needed to do was Hardspl and I would have been good to go? I have another hermes I'm doing for myself. I do find I'm not getting very little service if not none at all in the house. I use to get 3 or 4 bars. Should I change the radio? Does the radio change with each ROM loaded?

You can try going back to the radio that you originally had, just do it the sd method to minimize the chance of something going wrong.
You could compare the difference between the 2 hermes.

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Hard-SPL ended up negating the need to use pof's unlocker).
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True, but if you wish to sim unlock then you still need Pof's unlocker.

I have to admit I'm getting there myself LOL. It really isn't that hard after you do it the first time. Some things I got stuck on (Pure newbness).
Some ROMs are compressed with .rar and .7.....I found you must download a unzipper/compressor to extract the files you need. I used Winrar some use 7zip. I'm getting there. There is soooo much info on this site. You find that you search for an answer and you get a page of answers with 3 different ways to do it LOL!

We have all been there at one point, too!
When I first brought my hermes home and it was still locked to the at&t network, I was so worried I was going to break it.
Lots of reading, and lots of tinkering later, and I am working on my own rom. Granted, I didn't port it, but I have done so much tweaking that I don't think anyone could tell where it came from.
Funny thing is, I still keep learning so much more. I think it's like my other hobby, ham radio, I don't think anyone can try everything! It seems to go on and on.

Ya know you gotta love the internet LOL. I've learned about so many things (mostly due to them breaking lol). Here's another question for you guys. For those who have Josh's 6.1 ROM. Where is the lock unlock button??? I see the lock device setup for password protection but I don't see a regular lock the screen so I don't make but calls button. LOL I'm gonna try to load his S2U2 thing when I figure out how to do it.

You can add device lock to the today screen under settings>today (at least it should be there), but if your using manilla I don't have a clue lol

NEw, and need help

Hi, im new here.
im 15 yrs old [LOL]
but im a smart kid
however, i need a lil help her
i have a Vogue
and installed manilla2d on it
Yet, i can't add programs, i click on the + abd nothing happens
and each time i try playing music, it says something about a file error
and wen i click pictures, it says albumsearcher.exe is missing.
What is this :O??

Boobuntu said:
Hi, im new here.
im 15 yrs old [LOL]
but im a smart kid
however, i need a lil help her
i have a Vogue
and installed manilla2d on it
Yet, i can't add programs, i click on the + abd nothing happens
and each time i try playing music, it says something about a file error
and wen i click pictures, it says albumsearcher.exe is missing.
What is this :O??
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hello,
are you running a stock rom (phone as is) or did you flash to a custom one ? we'll need much more info to be able to help you.

Boobuntu said:
Hi, im new here.
im 15 yrs old [LOL]
but im a smart kid
however, i need a lil help her
i have a Vogue
and installed manilla2d on it
Yet, i can't add programs, i click on the + abd nothing happens
and each time i try playing music, it says something about a file error
and wen i click pictures, it says albumsearcher.exe is missing.
What is this :O??
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lol if you're a smart kid you wouldve flashed to a custom rom with m2D on it.
Jk. I've had that problem before where i couldnt add programs to the "launcher page" of manilla as well as having issues adding favorite people to the peoples tab.
I would try 1 of 2 things.
1) try a different version of manilla 2d for example if you used version 21 try version 20.
2) BUT i would highly reccommend using a custom rom with manilla 2d. Why? first off we have great chefs (people on this forum who make great roms). They optimize the rom (or basically the operating system for your phone to run more efficiently --> FASTER)
I would suggest NFSFAN who makes vogue roms. He also added other mods that are featured in the touch pro and touch diamond. Cant go into detail here but if you need help flashing to a custom rom you can pm me

intimidatorx31 said:
lol if you're a smart kid you wouldve flashed to a custom rom with m2D on it.
Jk. I've had that problem before where i couldnt add programs to the "launcher page" of manilla as well as having issues adding favorite people to the peoples tab.
I would try 1 of 2 things.
1) try a different version of manilla 2d for example if you used version 21 try version 20.
2) BUT i would highly reccommend using a custom rom with manilla 2d. Why? first off we have great chefs (people on this forum who make great roms). They optimize the rom (or basically the operating system for your phone to run more efficiently --> FASTER)
I would suggest NFSFAN who makes vogue roms. He also added other mods that are featured in the touch pro and touch diamond. Cant go into detail here but if you need help flashing to a custom rom you can pm me
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hmm
lelz im using sprints default ROM
I need instructions on using a custom ROM and how to install it+Where to get

Boobuntu said:
hmm
lelz im using sprints default ROM
I need instructions on using a custom ROM and how to install it+Where to get
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do a search for " roms "
I got 155 hits with excellent info
http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=22772941

Boobuntu said:
hmm
lelz im using sprints default ROM
I need instructions on using a custom ROM and how to install it+Where to get
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1) You should upgrade your radio --> maybe 3.42.30
honestly the easiest way is to use this utility from htc. This upgrades your htc touch to the newer windows mobile 6.1 with GPS enabled and Rev A for faster data downloads. http://www.htc.com/us/supportdownloadlist.aspx?p_id=76&act=sd&cat=all By doing this it will upgrade your radio. But note: this is not the only way to upgrade radio its the simplest way for newbies ​2) You need to unlock your phone
This is the Unlockerhttp://rapidshare.com/files/113951076/Vogue_unlocker_MFG_2.31.exe​If you need instructions here is where i got it. Just read we all had to read to figure it out. http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=20370​3) After doing that you can finally install a custom rom.
I suggest this one. Here is a very good and stable WM 6.1 Rom with Manilla 2D aka Touchflo 2D incorporated in this rom/os made by NFSFAN: http://74.53.45.2/%7Eevadmin/nfsfan/Public%20Releases/Sprint/NFSFAN%27s%201.12%20Sprint%20ROM.rar​There are 2 ways of flashing your phone...actually any windows mobile phone for that matter. 1) Flashing by your micro SD card or 2) flashing through your computer via USB cord​
Flashing Through microSD card
I Personally Like this method because it works 100%. The usb method sometimes has errors with active sync connection. Basically you download the rom (provided above) and thers a file called RUU_signed.nbh For the Sd card method you have to copy that to the root of your microSD card and rename it to VOGUIMG.nbh. Please note that you shouldve unlocked your phone by now and you shouldve backed up everything from you fone/sd card to your pc because everything will be deleted. Now after the VOGUIMG.nbh is on the root of the SD card, you now press and hold the power button on your phone AND press and hold the camera button on your phone at the same time --> keep holding it and then insert your stylus into the reset button. KEEP holding it until you get a 3 color screen red blue green. ANd follow the onscreen instructions.​
Flashing via USB cord
If you flash by this method, with the rom provided above, NFSFAN has provided u with a .rar of all the stuff you need to flash. Just unzip/unrar it. In there theres a file called ROMUpdateUtility.exe. open that. Make sure you plug in your phone and have an active sync connection. that program u just opened has onscreen instructions. DO NOT REMOVE YOUR PHONE FROM THE USB CORD AND HOPE YOU DONT HAVE A POWER OUTAGE WHILE DOING THIS BY USB CORD. This method is the easiest way to flash...but easy to me is subjective and it may not be easy for all.​
Anyways after its done whether u flashed by sd card or usb cord...it takes a while to start up dont panic. YOu shuold see that screen where u have to align your screen... after that ur phone will perform a customization let that **** run do not cancel.

intimidatorx31 thanks for the amazing guide! If anything, it should be stickied at the top to help all newcomers here. Well done.

intimidatorx31 said:
1) You should upgrade your radio --> maybe 3.42.30
honestly the easiest way is to use this utility from htc. This upgrades your htc touch to the newer windows mobile 6.1 with GPS enabled and Rev A for faster data downloads. http://www.htc.com/us/supportdownloadlist.aspx?p_id=76&act=sd&cat=all By doing this it will upgrade your radio. But note: this is not the only way to upgrade radio its the simplest way for newbies ​2) You need to unlock your phone
This is the Unlockerhttp://rapidshare.com/files/113951076/Vogue_unlocker_MFG_2.31.exe​If you need instructions here is where i got it. Just read we all had to read to figure it out. http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=20370​3) After doing that you can finally install a custom rom.
I suggest this one. Here is a very good and stable WM 6.1 Rom with Manilla 2D aka Touchflo 2D incorporated in this rom/os made by NFSFAN: http://74.53.45.2/%7Eevadmin/nfsfan/Public%20Releases/Sprint/NFSFAN%27s%201.12%20Sprint%20ROM.rar​There are 2 ways of flashing your phone...actually any windows mobile phone for that matter. 1) Flashing by your micro SD card or 2) flashing through your computer via USB cord​
Flashing Through microSD card
I Personally Like this method because it works 100%. The usb method sometimes has errors with active sync connection. Basically you download the rom (provided above) and thers a file called RUU_signed.nbh For the Sd card method you have to copy that to the root of your microSD card and rename it to VOGUIMG.nbh. Please note that you shouldve unlocked your phone by now and you shouldve backed up everything from you fone/sd card to your pc because everything will be deleted. Now after the VOGUIMG.nbh is on the root of the SD card, you now press and hold the power button on your phone AND press and hold the camera button on your phone at the same time --> keep holding it and then insert your stylus into the reset button. KEEP holding it until you get a 3 color screen red blue green. ANd follow the onscreen instructions.​
Flashing via USB cord
If you flash by this method, with the rom provided above, NFSFAN has provided u with a .rar of all the stuff you need to flash. Just unzip/unrar it. In there theres a file called ROMUpdateUtility.exe. open that. Make sure you plug in your phone and have an active sync connection. that program u just opened has onscreen instructions. DO NOT REMOVE YOUR PHONE FROM THE USB CORD AND HOPE YOU DONT HAVE A POWER OUTAGE WHILE DOING THIS BY USB CORD. This method is the easiest way to flash...but easy to me is subjective and it may not be easy for all.​
Anyways after its done whether u flashed by sd card or usb cord...it takes a while to start up dont panic. YOu shuold see that screen where u have to align your screen... after that ur phone will perform a customization let that **** run do not cancel.
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Thanks alot for the amazing guide.
But, my phone is alredy unlocked by CLARO
so i skip that part and proceed to updating ROM?

Boobuntu said:
Thanks alot for the amazing guide.
But, my phone is alredy unlocked by CLARO
so i skip that part and proceed to updating ROM?
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yea if its unlocked then by all means flash to custom rom but ive never heard of CLARO before.. but if its unlocked its unlocked.
The "guide" lol if u wanna call it that is very basic and thers some lil details that are left out but i didnt wanna include all of it or else it may confuse you. I was just like you guys i didnt start flashin until 5 months ago and ive had windows mobile phones for 3 years now. I learned all of this from the htc touch wiki page on this site. And i also read it on PPCgeeks.com

OH OK ill google them then =D

Boobuntu said:
Thanks alot for the amazing guide.
But, my phone is alredy unlocked by CLARO
so i skip that part and proceed to updating ROM?
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By CLARO, are you referring to CLARO SAC, as in CLARO is your cellular carrier/provider?
If CLARO is an app its not one Ive ever heard of for unlocking HTC Vogues and a google search comes up with it being a cellular provider NOT an unlocking software to flash custom ROMs to your phone and the only thing I find close to unlocking a phone and CLARO isnt even for the HTC Vogue but rather a V220.
Detroit Doug

Detroit_Doug said:
By CLARO, are you referring to CLARO SAC, as in CLARO is your cellular carrier/provider?
If CLARO is an app its not one Ive ever heard of for unlocking HTC Vogues and a google search comes up with it being a cellular provider NOT an unlocking software to flash custom ROMs to your phone and the only thing I find close to unlocking a phone and CLARO isnt even for the HTC Vogue but rather a V220.
Detroit Doug
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LOL true.
Claro runs all the CDMAs in this country, and Viva is another competitor,
btw i mean claro by this http://claro.com.do/
and they unlocked my phone and even had their custom Rom which, apart from being slow had a hideous theme
and i've never unlocked a phone by myself
what is the purpous of unlocking?

Boobuntu said:
LOL true.
Claro runs all the CDMAs in this country, and Viva is another competitor,
btw i mean claro by this http://claro.com.do/
and they unlocked my phone and even had their custom Rom which, apart from being slow had a hideous theme
and i've never unlocked a phone by myself
what is the purpous of unlocking?
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Unlocking the phone is what allows users to flash a custom ROM onto them other than the locked, standard ROM from the Carrier we buy them from.
So your saying the carrier CLARO has unlocked the phone? can you verify this to be certain, if not check with them regarding flashing of a custom ROM and check out THIS for more information regarding unlocking and relocking your phone for custom ROMs
As far as you being a "foriegn" (at least to me as Im in the US and my experience and understanding of ROMs and Unlocking comes from use on US phones) you may want to double-check your phones state before going to far
Detroit Doug

Detroit_Doug said:
Unlocking the phone is what allows users to flash a custom ROM onto them other than the locked, standard ROM from the Carrier we buy them from.
So your saying the carrier CLARO has unlocked the phone? can you verify this to be certain, if not check with them regarding flashing of a custom ROM and check out THIS for more information regarding unlocking and relocking your phone for custom ROMs
As far as you being a "foriegn" (at least to me as Im in the US and my experience and understanding of ROMs and Unlocking comes from use on US phones) you may want to double-check your phones state before going to far
Detroit Doug
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Oh.. no, its not unlocked given the fact that the boot screen still shows the sprint one, i set the automatic roaming thing you said obn other post, its back to normal and says sprint pcs, and wen i upgraded to windows 6.1 a box came and auto installed some sht from sprint,
thanks alot every1 =D now i know what to do

[Q] questions before flashing new ROM

I'm thinking about flashing a cooked rom to my TP2 and before i take the plunge i want to check that i understand what has to be done
firstly i am not sure how to identify which type of Rhodium i have. its an orange UK handset.
once i have determined this i need to use the relevant hardSPL utility. am i correct in thinking that this simply enables you to install non official roms to the device? does it leave the existing rom intact or do i need to flash the new rom before the device can be used?
flashing the rom looks pretty straight forward, remove sim & sd card, sync with activesync / wmdc, run the custom rom.exe when complete power down device and replace sim & sd card, power on. anything i've got wrong here?
Finally i'd like to know a little about radio roms. is there a definative best one to use? what benefits are there in different radio roms?
Thanks in advance.
Ryan.

deejayry said:
I'm thinking about flashing a cooked rom to my TP2 and before i take the plunge i want to check that i understand what has to be done
firstly i am not sure how to identify which type of Rhodium i have. its an orange UK handset.
once i have determined this i need to use the relevant hardSPL utility. am i correct in thinking that this simply enables you to install non official roms to the device? does it leave the existing rom intact or do i need to flash the new rom before the device can be used?
flashing the rom looks pretty straight forward, remove sim & sd card, sync with activesync / wmdc, run the custom rom.exe when complete power down device and replace sim & sd card, power on. anything i've got wrong here?
Finally i'd like to know a little about radio roms. is there a definative best one to use? what benefits are there in different radio roms?
Thanks in advance.
Ryan.
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there are whole threads dedicated to most of these questions.
please, take the time to use the forums search function.
it helps the fine staff at xda from answering the same questions over and over and over and over and over and over and over....
gets repetitious, and annoying.
so now that youve learned something new, make use of it and hopefully youll have a newly flashed rom within the next 10 mins

deejayry said:
I'm thinking about flashing a cooked rom to my TP2 and before i take the plunge i want to check that i understand what has to be done
firstly i am not sure how to identify which type of Rhodium i have. its an orange UK handset.
once i have determined this i need to use the relevant hardSPL utility. am i correct in thinking that this simply enables you to install non official roms to the device? does it leave the existing rom intact or do i need to flash the new rom before the device can be used?
flashing the rom looks pretty straight forward, remove sim & sd card, sync with activesync / wmdc, run the custom rom.exe when complete power down device and replace sim & sd card, power on. anything i've got wrong here?
Finally i'd like to know a little about radio roms. is there a definative best one to use? what benefits are there in different radio roms?
Thanks in advance.
Ryan.
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Go to the ROM Development forum and check the "Flashing ROM ... for NOOBs" thread. I think your answers will be there. The radio is flashed separately and will not affect the underlying ROM.

deejayry said:
firstly i am not sure how to identify which type of Rhodium i have. its an orange UK handset.
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That's GSM I believe. Remove the battery, and it will show the model number under it: RHOD100, RHOD200, etc. Search on these forums to see which is which (I don't know off hand).
deejayry said:
once i have determined this i need to use the relevant hardSPL utility. am i correct in thinking that this simply enables you to install non official roms to the device? does it leave the existing rom intact or do i need to flash the new rom before the device can be used?
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You are correct, all it does is unlock the SPL, and allows the flashing of ROMs other than the official one(s) released by your carrier. Your ROM remains intact.
deejayry said:
flashing the rom looks pretty straight forward, remove sim & sd card, sync with activesync / wmdc, run the custom rom.exe when complete power down device and replace sim & sd card, power on. anything i've got wrong here?
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Yep, that's pretty much it. Be sure to read the n00b guide, make sure your phone is charged over 50% for each step, don't let your PC go to sleep, etc.
Also running Task29 is optional, but highly recommended before you flash you new ROM. It wipes/formats the memory, so you won't have any remnants of the old ROM remaining (which might cause random bugs). See the Task29 stickied thread in the ROM forum.
deejayry said:
Finally i'd like to know a little about radio roms. is there a definative best one to use? what benefits are there in different radio roms?
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No, there is no definitive best radio. The newest ones are sometimes the best. But it can be geographically dependent as well. It might take some trial and error to find the best radio for you (which gives the best reception and battery life for your area).
If your TP2 is GSM, than its easy to flash a new radio, it only take a minute or so, and it leaves the rest of the ROM intact, so you can easily try various radios to find the best one for you.