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I'm ready to upgrade/flash my Dash, but just wondering, what exactly is the upside of WM6? I'm happy to be an early adopter and all that, but what will I notice to be improved?
if you haven't read every thread posted here about wm6 then you aren't ready to install it yet.
there are quite a few important changes you need to make imediately after installing.
the main advantages for me are the email enhancements and xt9 staying off pemanently. it also looks prettier. windows live seems to work better as well.
oh and the early adopters downloaded and installed it a month ago
lafester said:
if you haven't read every thread posted here about wm6 then you aren't ready to install it yet.
there are quite a few important changes you need to make imediately after installing.
the main advantages for me are the email enhancements and xt9 staying off pemanently. it also looks prettier. windows live seems to work better as well.
oh and the early adopters downloaded and installed it a month ago
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Thanks! Could you be more specific about the e-mail enhancements?
you can view HTML e-mail.
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you can view HTML e-mail.
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Is that it? How about alert customization depending on the account or something?
I have the files on my PC ready to go but I'm still using WM5 because I don't want my device phoning Microsoft or T-Mobile with my IMEI or other information. While you can disable it, the idea that your device phone's home should be kind of scary to you. Also, its BETA. I don't want my phone going crazy while I am on the road and I need it most.
JAmerican
its more then just html but that is nice.
you have the option to send mail when you hit send instead of having to hit send/receive as well.
you can keep mail on the server when you delete off the phone.
delete is moved to the left softkey instead of having to go into the menu.
I'm using WM6 on two devices, and although I wouldn't go back to the previous version, WM6 is JUST LIKE WM5. It's just that the majority of the applications have something or another that makes it that much more usable.
What I mean is, there are quite a few little features (and a couple additional applications) that make it an "upgrade." It's just like how WM5 was an upgrade to WM2003. It isn't an upgrade as much as it's update, if that makes any sense...
I'm pretty sure WM6 doesn't "phone home" or anything. I imagine this would have been found out by this point.
installation process
But, it sounds like upgrading is a whole lot more complicated than just running RUU_Excalibur... on my unlocked T-Mobile Dash. I then have to do a bunch of other mysterious steps?
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I'm pretty sure WM6 doesn't "phone home" or anything. I imagine this would have been found out by this point.
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He's talking about the app on the t-mobile beta wm6 rom which sends an SMS to a UK number frequently thus running up a high phone bill. Once that app is uninstalled it appears to be ok.
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He's talking about the app on the t-mobile beta wm6 rom which sends an SMS to a UK number frequently thus running up a high phone bill. Once that app is uninstalled it appears to be ok.
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Ugh... What app is that?!? Gotta make sure I uninstall that one...
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But, it sounds like upgrading is a whole lot more complicated than just running RUU_Excalibur... on my unlocked T-Mobile Dash. I then have to do a bunch of other mysterious steps?
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they aren't mysterious. they are all well documented here.
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they aren't mysterious. they are all well documented here.
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But there isn't exactly a step by step guide, at least none I found on a search.
You could write one...
I am using WM6 since first HERMES build appear.
PRO
Faster
Nice grafic presentation
Some applets (office mobile for smartphone could be one)
Windows LIVE (but is also available ad WM5 add-on)
CON
Is at least a RTM bur still some beta's DLL and drivers are out, meaning unpredictable results with some appz
No big improvements, I am using smartphone notes and documents to go and I HAVE a better office sute, having even some PPT editing, nice word usability and formatting
Needs to be patched just to work normally
HTML e-mail works ONLY with exchange server 2007
Conclusion
The Excalibur HTC ROM is fast and stable (we are talking STABLE in terms of a windows system ). Documents to go is much better than WM6 office, no compatibility for both with office 2007 doc formats, nothing really improved having the WM6 Rom at this stage .
WM6 is a MS business to boost VISTA compatibility and exchange server 2005 sales (all important new features are available ONLY uif you use exchange server 2005)
From user point of view better graphic is the only real enhancement
WM6 really shines when you are a corporate user with Exchange 2007 airsync. You have stuff like rights management, sharepoint proxy, calendaring enhancements and better office integration (with lates office clients you can also use new formats). There is much more info on the M$FT website.
Hi all,
I tried skype mobile version on my trinity, i see my contacts and they are able to call me to. but wenn i try to answers the call the phone keeps ringing. I search this forum but see a lot of thing for wm6. I want to stay on WM5 untill WM6 rom works 100 %. I went to skype to see the P3600 is supported en it seem the processor's not ? How can i get this to work ? I don't need skype any other voip program is good. The only thing i need is when at home i'd like to change or add a profile so i could call my home when i'm not in my country. Maybe some answers are abouvious for some guy of you but sorry i'm kind of new with this stuff.
tnx
I tried skype as well, when we where using cooked roms for wm5 and it worked fine.
Another program that also worked fine is SJ phone, but I don;t know any good internet voip servers
I can install SKYPE 2.2 on my Dopod D810. Once I try to login, everything alright, but it get restart when accepting any incoming call.
Skype chat ok. Calls do not work
I finally installed skype on my SPV M700, but it cannot make/receive calls.
Can anyone help?
Thanks
Raffavito
I read somewhere that skype 2.2 does not support calling functions... what you need is skype2.2 beta... I guess you would need to search for that....cos I can't remember where I found it... the problem I have is that I can't seem to run that cab file under mun's rom. it says application not found for cab... anybody can help on that? is there a zip application I need to install or something?
Skype 2.0 works on trinity WM5
Hi
I had the same problems with the last version of Skype.
I found on Emule the version Skype Mobile v2.0.0.51 and it works ok.
If you need it send me an e-mail to raveiga32 at gmail dot com and I will send you this version.
Good luck
Try this one:
http://rapidshare.com/files/37248486/SkypeForPocketPC_Beta.CAB.html
It's 2.2.0.18 beta but everything seems to be working fine.
Download link for Skype for Pocket PC version 2.2.0.20.2 Beta is provided at the end of this post. I believe it should work fine for both WM5 and WM6 Trinity ROMs. I say this because it was clearly intended for WM5 but works fine with WM6. At this point I believe this is the most recent version they listed and offered specifically for the P3600.
Those are some curious issues being described! To be honest I had never been the biggest fan of Skype (some disappointing results in the past, plus the lack of outgoing Caller ID - which is finally being partly remedied). I have always prefered SIP for VoIP due to the potential for superior call quality, faxing and many other features that are possible. But the snag has always been that it is hard for SIP to get past blocked ports, firewalls and NAT, unless you have direct admin access to those things. The strength of Skype is that it will simply revert to using TCP web ports if needed so it will always work almost anywhere, even if it sounds awful at times!
All that said, I have found Skype it to be finally working really very well over WiFi on the LVSW 2.0.1.1. WM6 ROM for Trinity. But the version I am using is no longer provided for public download.
My Skype version 2.2.0.20.2 Beta.
When it was available as public download from Skype (really quite recently) it was clearly listed as the right version for the P3600. I notice that it has now been replaced with release version 2.2.0.36 and the nearest compatible phone shown is the P4350.
It seem old versions of Skype can be downloaded from their Developer Zone but it is necessary to sign a Non-disclosure agreement first to get at the old versions. Seems a little over the top if all that is desired is a previous Skype build. I don't want to know their secrets, just be able to get at an older version!
WiFi works great. 3G.... don't bother trying (in my opinion). Doesn't have the Skype to SMS feature but otherwise seems very functional and completely stable.
I hope this is helpful.
Here is a link for a download of the Skype for Pocket PC 2.2.0,20.2 Beta.
http://rapidshare.com/files/37978278/SkypeForPocketPC_2_2_0_20-2_Beta.CAB.html
Edit: BTW I find it works best with echo cancellation on and when used with the headset because otherwise sound comes out of the rear loudspeaker, not the phone speaker.
Would it be possible with the member who has the 2.2.0.51 beta to please put it on Rapidshare or elsewhere so people can get at it easily please? It would be great if we can figure out exactly which build seems best for the Trinity... might be different for WM5 and WM6 but I suspect the odds are it will be one of these two builds. All the best
Scratch that last bit. I misread the post. It was the 2.0.0.51 beta previously mentioned... older than mine not newer. Sorry for my mistake. My guess is that the 2.2.0.20.2 Beta I have linked above is probably going to be best. Good luck!
Sorry to bump the post. Did some research.... well more like just a lot of reading on the Skype website! The current official Skype Mobile Gold Release 2.2 (non-beta) has a list of phones which are now ONLY supported for text chat.
I am both surprised and dsisapointed to say that BOTH the Trinity and TyTN are specially listed as now being only capable of text chat.
The last Beta version of 2.2. (Skype for Pocket PC 2.2.0,20.2 Beta) as linked in thre post above, did specifially list the Trinity and TyTN as support for calling. The trinity works wll with that version over WiFi.
So download it, back it up and hang on to it real tight!
Any download problems, please post and I will be happy to upload it again elsewhere. While I do feel very sure this one should be best for WM5 and WM6do please post feedback if that is not the case so we will all the exact sitituation.
Many thanks.
Thank you for the useful info. Using the link you gave,I downloaded the older version of Skype 2.2 to use on my HTC TyTN but it has no exe file and I do not know how to proceed from here. Could you please help.
Just to test the water, I sent an e-mail to Skype asking for the older version but they refused, saying that I should try to get it from some third party !!!!
I am a new member to the forum and am not sure how to operate but I have saved the page as a favourite and hope I can get your reply. Thanks
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Thank you for the useful info. Using the link you gave,I downloaded the older version of Skype 2.2 to use on my HTC TyTN but it has no exe file and I do not know how to proceed from here. Could you please help.
Just to test the water, I sent an e-mail to Skype asking for the older version but they refused, saying that I should try to get it from some third party !!!!
I am a new member to the forum and am not sure how to operate but I have saved the page as a favourite and hope I can get your reply. Thanks
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The linked file... here it is again
http://rapidshare.com/files/37978278/SkypeForPocketPC_2_2_0_20-2_Beta.CAB.html
is not a desktop .exe file. It is a .cab file. Connect your device to your computer then use the Explorer Pocket PC option (may be called something abit different) in ActiveSync or Mobile Manager to move the file onto to your phone. The file has to be moved onto the phone then installed there. You use the File Manager program on the phone to locate it and then double click in it to install.
The phone will see the cab file as installable. To your desktop computer it will appear to be an uninstallable archive only.
In short it is on-device installable only. It is not installed directly from your desktop computer.
Hope this helps
Skype 2.2 on DOPOD 838Pro is CRASHING
After upgrading from Skype WM 2.1 to 2.2, I managed to sign-in but noticed my skype-out account was not recognized (no credits were shown) nor did I succeed to make the echo call. Skype just crashed! When I followed the link to activate my skype-out, I got a "page not found" message!. Since I knew I had credits available, I then tried to call using the dial and it crashed as well! This is serious as I had install an old version 2.0.0.39 because my previous version 2.1 was overwritten by the new executable that I downloaded!
BEWARE OF INSTALLATION ON ANY HERMES100 DEVICE
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After upgrading from Skype WM 2.1 to 2.2, I managed to sign-in but noticed my skype-out account was not recognized (no credits were shown) nor did I succeed to make the echo call. Skype just crashed! When I followed the link to activate my skype-out, I got a "page not found" message!. Since I knew I had credits available, I then tried to call using the dial and it crashed as well! This is serious as I had install an old version 2.0.0.39 because my previous version 2.1 was overwritten by the new executable that I downloaded!
BEWARE OF INSTALLATION ON ANY HERMES100 DEVICE
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Sounds very frustrating. Please would you share exactly which version works for you and which caused the big problems? Any numbers involved after 2.1 and 2.2 and is this beta or release versions? Clearly this is tricky stuff, so the more exact info we can share the more it may help people. Perhaps we should also try to track the exact ROM version of our phones which work and don't with Skype versions so we can kind of build a little knowledge base for ourselves.
Also, was this over WiFi or 3G? I am wondering if the Page not found could be a DNS issue occuring which may be complicating factor.
Good luck!
p3600 or p4350 for best skype experience
whats the best phone for a better skype experience?
tapan
firiel said:
I tried skype as well, when we where using cooked roms for wm5 and it worked fine.
Another program that also worked fine is SJ phone, but I don;t know any good internet voip servers
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Hi.
I use www.voipcheap.com as my voip provider and to me it rocks,I call Spain and other countries in Europe for a really nice rate and I live in USA.
Take a look at some destinations,because it´s free.
You can also use www.voipstunt.com and www.voipbuster.com, but like I said voipcheap works great.
Bye guys.
Since 2 days I've got a hermes and read a lot in this mobile 6 forum. I installed several ROM but still have some questions.
I there a default windows mobile 6 rom, so not a customized one? I there a default site for downloading messenger live and office 2007? I looked at the microsoft site but couldn't find it.
Already searched the forum but couldn't get a answer.
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Since 2 days I've got a hermes and read a lot in this mobile 6 forum. I installed several ROM but still have some questions.
I there a default windows mobile 6 rom, so not a customized one? I there a default page for downloading messenger live and office 2007?
Already searched the forum but couldn't get a answer.
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Yes there is, but first; you got your hermes for about 2 days and you're allready flashing it? hmm..ok..but just be carefull, dont wanna see you opening a thread with "I ****ed-up my hermes." Its good you read alot, try WIKI if you dont understand some things.
ok..this link is a (pre-released, I would say, leaked version of) HTC Windows Mobile 6 ROM and as far is I know, Its not customized. And I think it includes office 2007 and if you want Windows live messenger, try this link.
good luck
thanks for you reply, I know how to flash my hermes, did it already 7 times now I'm also having some experience with my Imate Jam, which i've got now for over 3 years.
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Yes there is, but first; you got your hermes for about 2 days and you're allready flashing it? hmm..ok..but just be carefull, dont wanna see you opening a thread with "I ****ed-up my hermes." Its good you read alot, try WIKI if you dont understand some things.
ok..this link is a (pre-released, I would say, leaked version of) HTC Windows Mobile 6 ROM and as far is I know, Its not customized. And I think it includes office 2007 and if you want Windows live messenger, try this link.
good luck
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i flashed mines in one day but read the hermes thread a week in advance. lol
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...if you want Windows live messenger, try this link.[/COLOR]
good luck
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Just a head's up... the link you posted is for an old version of WL4WM (10.6.0026.1400) which has some minor random issues of locking up the Hermes if you use the Live Services on your today screen via WiFi. The current version is 10.6.0028.2700, which resolves those issues and a few others. Many of the current Rom cooks are using this new version and may be able to post it here for you. (Add-on packages for BLACK include the old 10.6.0026.1400 version of WL4WM)
I found this site and started flashing WM6 on my Hermes less than a week from purchasing it, with no prior knowledge of flashing. Was a little scary but boy was it slow with WM5 on there.
Sorry but need to go off-topic
Duttythroy you use Windows X-Bow WM6 Black Majik TOUCHFLO STYLE hmm..is it touch or button flo..if it is button flo, its useless. I really want touchflo
Here's your answer for Mobile Office 2007.
http://msmobiles.com/news.php/6431.html
I also remember seeing this on Microsofts website at some point and it will be offered as a free upgrade to mobile users.
My boss has the 8525 from Cingular. We recently upgraded it to the latest WM5 rom and the thing works fine, except he can't get his gmail accounts to work anymore. I have a Treo 700wx myself and have messed with it a few times on stuff like this. But what I was wondering what is the most stable WM6 rom out there that we can upgrade to so it resolves that problem, BT problems he has as well?
And is there a way to go back to the original ROM? I can't seem to find a download of it anywhere. Thanks!
you might want to start reading here: and here
its imperative that you read through this very important links not unless you want to end up with an expensive paper weight.
also, before somebody starts to flame you with your "whats the best ROM question" (it has been covered here a million times) it really depends on what you want. again you need to patiently search through the forums for your answers. it definitely is there.. good luck..
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you might want to start reading here: and here
its imperative that you read through this very important links not unless you want to end up with an expensive paper weight.
also, before somebody starts to flame you with your "whats the best ROM question" (it has been covered here a million times) it really depends on what you want. again you need to patiently search through the forums for your answers. it definitely is there.. good luck..
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I have been searching for the past 2 hrs trying to figure out what ROM. There are so many I can not figure out which one to get. From people who have tried them I want to know for a CFO of the company which one is the most stable and works with AT&T. And how can I go back to the original ROM. Anyone have that ROM upgrade/downgrade available?
dude, you gotta read each ROM's thread... and see what people are saying about it... if it is a hermes rom then it will work for AT&T .. and you can ALWAYS go back to the original ROM by going to www.htcamerica.net and downloading it and installing it.
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My boss has the 8525 from Cingular. We recently upgraded it to the latest WM5 rom and the thing works fine, except he can't get his gmail accounts to work anymore. I have a Treo 700wx myself and have messed with it a few times on stuff like this. But what I was wondering what is the most stable WM6 rom out there that we can upgrade to so it resolves that problem, BT problems he has as well?
And is there a way to go back to the original ROM? I can't seem to find a download of it anywhere. Thanks!
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How was your boss accessing his gmail accounts prior to the WM5 upgrade?
i.e.
-Pocket Outlook
-the web (www.gmail.com)
-gmail java client
-Exchange Server (Google Apps)
Seriously, I have been testing most WM6 roms posted on this site for the same reasons. Our whole company uses 8525s.
I would NOT recommend ANY of them for corporate use. Let alone for my boss!
Wait for the 'official' Dopod 838Pro ROM out tomorrow.
http://www.asia.htc.com/asia/event/WM6/index.html
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I would NOT recommend ANY of them for corporate use. Let alone for my boss!
Wait for the 'official' Dopod 838Pro ROM out tomorrow.
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Yeah, I'm sure it'll be ready for prime time alright, especially for use with AT&T.
Seriously though, what are you people smoking when it comes to the fervor over this impending "official release"? I believe I'm having iPhone deja vu...
My 2 cents
Well the original poster was asking about what the best ROM was. I've tried a few of the WM6 ROMs and at least my 2 cents, the best has been vp3G's 2.01h. I had issues with the keys not lining up with othe versions - though was able to fix them with a patch. Also, vp3G's version has the data connections configured for AT&T - though you could possibly do that manually with other ROMs. I did have to install the other Cingular apps like MobiTV and XM radio that wasn't included in his ROM.
Before I upgraded to vp3G's ROM (I didn't keep the other WM6 ROMs for very long so I can't speak to their stability), but on the 2.15 "official HTC" upgrade for the 8525, I was resetting my phone daily - some days multiple times - but I seldom have to reset my phone now. Bluetooth also has improved. I have a logitech bluetooth stereo adapter which was hit or miss before when I tried to sync the two. Now it syncs without any issues. There's also the added benefit of a registry editor, as well as addition tweak settings included in the ROM.
Great work vp3G! - got my 3 other friends with 8525's to take the plunge and upgrade as well.
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2hrs is not nearly enough.
Try a minimum of 12hrs.
(read, research, search, read, search, read)
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...clip... And how can I go back to the original ROM.
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And now you'll need to set aside another 2-4hrs.
Wait until all your symbols are messed up.
(easy fix - but that question gets asked over and over)
If you're like alot of new people here, you will just start a new thread on every possible question you could have.
Happy Learning.
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My boss has the 8525 from Cingular. We recently upgraded it to the latest WM5 rom and the thing works fine, except he can't get his gmail accounts to work anymore. I have a Treo 700wx myself and have messed with it a few times on stuff like this. But what I was wondering what is the most stable WM6 rom out there that we can upgrade to so it resolves that problem, BT problems he has as well?
And is there a way to go back to the original ROM? I can't seem to find a download of it anywhere. Thanks!
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If everything is ok only except his gmail. Please check the gmail setting.
In the gmail setting, there is a "forward & pop", check the pop.
I just pruned the living hell out of this thread to keep it technical. Any more OT crap and I start handing out bans.....
Those of you whose posts were deleted: You've been warned...
geez....
Anyhoo....
I've been running my company's 8525 equipped execs on WM6 for over a month w/o complaints. In fact, they love it. We've also been able to mass upgrade to Office 2K7 because of this since the ROM I'm loading has Mobile Office 2K7 installed and can read native attachments.
We use direct push to Exchange 2k3 currently.
I'm also keeping the security folks at bay with WM6's SD encryption capabilities.
No worries Sleuth, apologies. It got crazily out of hand, I thought my posts were pretty low key. Sorry.
Anyway, I hope you don't mind me reposting some of the relevant info minus the BS. I think it has merit.
As stated, I still think WM6 is not ready for an environment where high reliability is required.
The latest WM5 AT&T ROM works flawlessly with MS Push for all 35 of our 8525 users. It does not stop syncing.
I have tried most current WM6 ROMS and MS Push will occasionally stop syncing at some point we find.
We are a large corporation and tested the 8525s thoroughly for MS Push before dumping Goodlink and moving to MS. We still have 250 Blackberries in the UK which will also be migrating to MS push/Hermes. (MS did it like they always do, take someone else's idea, offer it free and wipe out the competition!)
I'm not implying the official AT&T ROM is perfect, far from, the one big bug is that PIE will stop showing pages and device then needs a reboot.
But the killer app for us is MS Push and that works as we need it to.
Thus, I am hoping that the official HTC/Dopod WM6 ROM does indeed work better than the current 'cooked' WM6 roms. Fingers crossed!
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Anyhoo....
I've been running my company's 8525 equipped execs on WM6 for over a month w/o complaints. In fact, they love it. We've also been able to mass upgrade to Office 2K7 because of this since the ROM I'm loading has Mobile Office 2K7 installed and can read native attachments.
We use direct push to Exchange 2k3 currently.
I'm also keeping the security folks at bay with WM6's SD encryption capabilities.
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Really?! That's good news! Which ROM and what Radio ver?
I find that using EDGE/GPRS and not 3G improves battery life considerably and minimizes the stops in syncing.
Does your WM6 ROM not stop syncing using push at all then?!
I'd really appreciate any info you can give me.
Cheers.
I agree, SD encryption along with remote wipe is a plus.
There is an issue with the RTM CommManager that appears to affect direct push. The WM6 release our execs run pre-dates this. Direct push is completely stable.
That being said, I'd hold on WM6 updates in your case until you get a chance to test the ROM I'm currently working on. I know how to fix the sync bug but have several options. See the latest posts in my current ROM thread (click on my sig) for more information on this.
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I just pruned the living hell out of this thread to keep it technical. Any more OT crap and I start handing out bans.....
Those of you whose posts were deleted: You've been warned...
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Thanks for the clean-up Sleuth.
I can confirm that the Sleuth ROM is indeed stable enough for a corporate environment. Looking forward to the next release.
Sleuth255 said:
There is an issue with the RTM CommManager that appears to affect direct push. The WM6 release our execs run pre-dates this. Direct push is completely stable.
That being said, I'd hold on WM6 updates in your case until you get a chance to test the ROM I'm currently working on. I know how to fix the sync bug but have several options. See the latest posts in my current ROM thread (click on my sig) for more information on this.
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Thanks Sleuth!
Well, am testing the new Dopod ROM. It seems they left the old CommManager in that too, obviously for the reason you just mentioned. I have good hopes for this new ROM.
Thanks again.
Update - so far so good! This Dopod ROM looks promising. have been using all day. No stops in Syncing. Lets see how it pans out when I take the subway home. Always the decider as to whether it will start syncing when I come out.
Hi
I just got my T-Mobile Dash Unlocked / S620. It has the T-Mobile WM5 ROM installed and works great. So my question is, is it worth to upgrade to WM6 ROM? Will it help improve performance? Will it save battery power?
I only use my phone for calling, internet browsing and Calendar functions. Not outlook email.
If it is still worth upgrading then which ROM is best? T-Mobile official or HTC official or some hacked version?
Please let me know. Any guidance / link will be helpful.
Thanks
yes. always yes.
i also doupted. but i really like wm6. the new call history rocks.
take htc official rom.