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Something about O2 Xda Atom

O2 official websit has already introduced Xda Atom in the market. I am wondering if anyone has already seen it in HK yet. If yes, I have some questions below and please help me out with. thank you very much.
1. How much is it?
2. Is English and Chinese version also available in HK?
3. Who carries this PDA?

1) It's HK$4,980 so it's approx. US$638.50
2) English version will be out before X'mas so they say.. And Chinese version in Jan.
3) It's not out yet, but you should be able to get it anywhere *if* they don't sell out... Or just order it from Expansys...

Some O2 info on the HTC Prophet:
http://www.seeo2.com/product/XdaAtom/template/XdaAtomProductInfo.vm
For some strange reason, the specs listing shows some peculiar "mistakes" (such as CPU 'Intel PXA272 416MHz' instead of 'Texas Instruments OMAP850 200 MHz' as quoted from Mobile.review... :roll:
Any more info, anyone?
Greets, Leon Steyns.

Leon_Steyns said:
Some O2 info on the HTC Prophet:
http://www.seeo2.com/product/XdaAtom/template/XdaAtomProductInfo.vm
For some strange reason, the specs listing shows some peculiar "mistakes" (such as CPU 'Intel PXA272 416MHz' instead of 'Texas Instruments OMAP850 200 MHz' as quoted from Mobile.review... :roll:
Any more info, anyone?
Greets, Leon Steyns.
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Not that strange Leon... In fact YOU are making some mistakes by getting your devices mixed up :lol:
1) O2 Atom is NOT HTC Prophet, but a device made by Quanta.
2) O2 Atom has PXA272 where HTC Prophet has sloppy OMAP850/195Mhz
I really like the Prophet, although HTC should have given it a faster CPU.
CT.

O2 Atom is competely diffenent device than HTC. Please noted that
Jerry

Thank you for your informaiton CL55. I may go to HK if I got a chance in Jan. Can you give me a full name of where I can order it from?
Jerry

The price of O2 Atom in HK should be HK$5980. For $4980 is Dopod 818 Pro.
CL55 said:
1) It's HK$4,980 so it's approx. US$638.50
2) English version will be out before X'mas so they say.. And Chinese version in Jan.
3) It's not out yet, but you should be able to get it anywhere *if* they don't sell out... Or just order it from Expansys...
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I stand corrected...
What's the point of "wasting" such a wonderful device with a less-capable engine? haven't consumer electronics manufacturers learned from carmakers? :roll:
Sorry.
Greets, Leon Steyns.

Are someone actually owing the Dopod 818 Pro yet?
Althought the device is out for sale for almost a week now, there doesn't seems to be anyone that actually owes one.
I'm dying to hear from first hand opinion about the prophet.
Frankly speaking, the engine for the prophet is not that bad. The only problem is that probably none of the Pocket PC are currently optimise to take advantage of parallel processing using the OMAP processors.
Given that Universe and Wizard are also using OMAP, I would think it will take 6 months to a year before the software developers will do something about it, and that means more upgrade $$$.
Although Prophet is about SGD$200 cheaper than Atom, the savings is zeroised if you take into consideration of the additional software upgrade costs.
Demand and Supply. That's how free trade works.

Expansys - O2 XDA Atom (HK Warranty, EN)
Hi Guys
Bit of a newbie - I'm considering buying the atom from expansys which is available on this link
http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=126950
Would anyone be able to give me a feel on the implications of the HK warranty.
I'm a little concerned I may end up with a rushed out model with poor english etc etc etc
Cheers guys

O2 AKU 3, when?

Does anyone know when O2 is likely, if ever, to release a AKU3 ROM? Heard some good things, and not so good things, but would welcome the upgrade.
Answers on a postcard please

Univerval is EOL so not shure we will see an official AKU3 ROM

EOL???????
What do you guys recommend then????

Nokia N95 looks pretty cool!!!

I have upgraded my exec to AKU 3.2 and it works a treat, I seem to have lost task manager but gained other apps such as usb hdd option, I've had no hick ups yet.

mark,
can you give me rough guide of how you did this?
Thanks

No further AKUs for O2 customers then...?????????

poussin69 said:
Univerval is EOL so not shure we will see an official AKU3 ROM
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Oh no, was there an official announcement I've missed?!!

EastExpert said:
Oh no, was there an official announcement I've missed?!!
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You did not miss an announcment, you just missed the obvious signs. The MDA Pro is dropped from T-Mobile's catalog, the Qtek 9000 is increasingly difficult to come by. The Universal device is around a year old. That's ancient for a PDA. It's successor has not been announced yet, but rumours are already to be heard ...
Manufacturers just rarely announce this kind of thing in order to make sure that old stocks can be sold.

MarkJL said:
I have upgraded my exec to AKU 3.2 and it works a treat, I seem to have lost task manager but gained other apps such as usb hdd option, I've had no hick ups yet.
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How do you go about connecting a Mass Storage Device to the Univesal on AKu 3.2? Do i need any special cable or something?
Keen to know, before I even upgrade to it.

So where to now..... I like the VGA, I like the keyboard and I can live with the other problems to have the first 2????

So where do we go from here. Don't know about anyone else but I like the format of the XDA EXEC ie keyboard and VGA etc and can put up with the faults...........
Anyone in the know as to what would be considered an upgrade?

omega_ said:
How do you go about connecting a Mass Storage Device to the Univesal on AKu 3.2? Do i need any special cable or something?
Keen to know, before I even upgrade to it.
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There is no way to directly connect a HDD to the Uni. It doesn't support USB hosting.
There is a topic of someone who says they have a Wi-Fi caddy connecting to the device and using it that way:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=280193

wait a second!
I e-mailed O2 to ask whether they are planning to release any new ROMS and got the following response:
"Thank you for your email.
At the moment we don’t have any information on whether or not a ROM version with the AKU3 will be available for the XDA Exec. We are usually advised of a new ROM for the XDA series 4-6 weeks prior to their release but we haven’t heard anything yet. As the XDA Exec hasn’t reached the end of its life cycle there should be a new ROM versions released.
If you have any further queries please contact us."
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Sounds as if the Universal isn't EOL after all. Do you think it's Microsoft holding the process up or HTC?
Mach

YEAH!
Sweet, I agree and disagree (yes and no)
Yes (agree) XDA EXEC is a year old ..... but
there is nothing like it on the market still .... No (disagree)
Is there life in the old dog yet???????????????????

mrbrightside1977 said:
Sweet, I agree and disagree (yes and no)
Yes (agree) XDA EXEC is a year old ..... but
there is nothing like it on the market still .... No (disagree)
Is there life in the old dog yet???????????????????
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so what the best thing on the market now. and dont say dell x51v. its crap

Could the XDA Flame be the replacment that we are all looking for??
"The Xda Flame encapsulates everything the O2 brand stands for - innovation and performance in a sleek, beautiful, desirable package. The Xda Flame breaks technology barriers by being the first dual processor PDA-phone, incorporating the powerful NVIDIA GoForce GPU for sublime screen graphics, movie playback, photo viewing, and gaming performance, on top of a 520MHz Intel processor chip. A large 3.6' VGA touchscreen and a host of multimedia features ensure that customers stay productive and are entertained while on the go."

Meeting with HTC

Hi all
i'm an engineer doing R&D for Leaf Wireless in South Africa. We supply wireless solutions and HTC phones to Africa.
i'm going to Taiwan to meet and recieve training from the HTC engineers from monday the 12th. And since i've received so much help from XDA developers in the past i thought i'd offer.
if there are any customisation questions you have or HTC issues that are proving difficult to solve post them here. i'll ask the guys when i get there and try get some answers.
cheers,
Greg

hmm this thread sounds like it could take off.
i dont think you know what you got yourself into supaspud. i know lots of people are going to have questions and suggestions for htc.
i for one would like to see them implement a wheel mouse not unlike the one in the danger sidekick 3. that would make wm experience 100 times better.
also ask if crossbow will officially be released as an upgrade for the wizard.
when i think of more questions or suggestions ill reply again

?Why don't they make a full size (3.5" or whatever) screen in a cdma with more memory. Hell it doesn't even have to be vga. I use mine as a pda, if I wanted a tiny screen, I'd just get a damn phone.

hiimcliff said:
also ask if crossbow will officially be released as an upgrade for the wizard.
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Save yourself the bother. It would be up to the telco's to decide on releasing an official update and they would then pay HTC to build the rom. Expect that to happen about the same time as the telco's decide to donate all their profits to third world charities.

It's not a telco thing. If you are refering to the companies who re-brand the HTC machines (most of whom are not telcos) the decision will be based mostly on whether HTC will actually supply the ROM and at what cost if any. They would have a fairly good idea about what they are going to do for some machines as they own one such company that retails their machines (Dopod). Find out about possibility of Artemis crossbow ROM if you can

Linux
It would be interesting to get their opinion on Linux on the HTC platform, and whether they would consider contributing to the development of a well rounded Linux based phone environment.

Yes, their opinion on linux would be good to know
Ask if they have any future plans to support it officially.

Ask them what (apart from soldering the chips on and editing the rom file for memory alocation) needs to be done to make 128mb of ram work on UNIVERSAL (it origionally had it, so the motherboard supports it and it can work

Hello Leaf Wireless
Well, well Greg, I thought that Leaf would not come out of the closet.
I have been the source of information till now, but now please take the stage.
A few months back I introduced a few of your staff to the XDA site.
I am now and then fed tit bits of information which I share on the forum. The ROM 1.35 update is a good example.
There are some clever guys here and we can all all learn together.
The problems I raised with Renier was:
1. Storage card getting lost in Media Player
2. Windows 5 is full of unresloved problems, with the BT stack poor.
3. Battery life on 3G is shocking. I have upgraded to 1.27 to see if things improve.
4. I have an Email from Dan Mackie @HTC Eupope stating that an Major ROM upgrade would be released at the end of January 2007, "to resolve all known issues on the TyTN". Nothing has happened yet!
The issue with the storage card was a known issue and I was informed at the end of September that it would be sorted with the next upgrade.
It hasn't happened yet but I have noticed that the TyTN's that you have received do not have this problem.
Please feel free to contact me should you wish.
Enjoy the trip and let me have a copy of the new ROM before you leave.
Regards
A wish list would be for the keyboard have some kind of a lock to prevent it opening when retrieving from the pouch. I find that I often drop call on closing the keyboard.
The magnets in the pouch are also troublesome and cause screen rotation and also dropped calls at times when rotating back.

GPS in the Hermes
What component of software (hardware??) is missing in the Tytn compared to the Trinity to make the GPS work.
Thanks
Francisco
PS. My first post, and I would like to thanks all the excellent XDA-developers community for this great forum.

@SupaSpud: Tell them to produce a Hermes with VGA screen and GPS and 256Mb ROM, RAM....
Thanks.

SupaSpud said:
i'll ask the guys when i get there and try get some answers.
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Several people have already asked this question:
- How can we install 128Mb RAM on Universal?
HTC never replied.

sheesh...
wow... looks like I opened up pandora's box. i'm making a list of all the queries and i'll ask them on monday. keep em coming...
ps: i'll find out bout the rom now.

Hey SSpud - gr8 offer !
1. I''d like you to ask why they dont set the default Bluetooth (a2dp) to Stereo (and the bit rate / max bit rate to 40+) ... and generally fix stereo BT.
2. How do they acvtually work with customers (eg BT in the UK) .... I get the inpression they are extremely slow and unresponsive.
2. Camera - if even cheap sony ericons can have autofocus and macro settings why cant HTC ?
3. Stereo Jacks (3.5 or 2.5mm)
4. Direct access to microSD card
5. When will they update their FAQ's and trouble shooting guides beyond the patronising " check that it is turned on type " answers.
Thanks for this oportunity !!
(I'm especially intersted efor Artemis/ XDA orbit)

Hello 'Spud,
Apart from sorting/mentioning the listed problems here - especially the poor bluetooth stack IMO - please do bump the question regarding their future GPS roadmap for TyTN/Hermes series of phones.
Now that will make a true convergence of technologies.
Kind regards,

Mine is a small and trivial request... could they please please please fix the battery meter on the hermes... the [email protected] +/- 10% drives me nuts... wish we could get the +/- 1% like the other devices.

Hello Greg
SupaSpud said:
Hi all
i'm an engineer doing R&D for Leaf Wireless in South Africa. We supply wireless solutions and HTC phones to Africa.
i'm going to Taiwan to meet and recieve training from the HTC engineers from monday the 12th. And since i've received so much help from XDA developers in the past i thought i'd offer.
if there are any customisation questions you have or HTC issues that are proving difficult to solve post them here. i'll ask the guys when i get there and try get some answers.
cheers,
Greg
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Tell the guys at HTC to watch the XDA-Developers site to find out what's wrong with their phones and what features are needed to turn them into great devices - remember the IPhone is comming!
Basil

Tell them not to save cents in devices that cost hundred of dollars. For instance they use cheap and weak cpus like samsung (which has only ARMv4T) ot OMAP with it's low clock frequencies. Or they save memory and instead of using 128MB or more RAM! RAM is cheap! I'd like to see smaller touchscreen displays with VGA resolution! Look at the size and resolution of some nokias: E60 or E70. I'd like to see hermes (device with foldable keyboard) with gps, 624MHz intel cpu, 128MB RAM and 2.2 inch touchscreen in the near future!
YES! Tell them about this forum! Tell them not to do stupid things in locking their devices - this simply reduces their markets!
And tell them that maybe it is about time to see their x86 UMPC! Look at the sony vaio UX180P or UX280P!

Hi
hiimcliff said:
i for one would like to see them implement a wheel mouse not unlike the one in the danger sidekick 3. that would make wm experience 100 times better.
also ask if crossbow will officially be released as an upgrade for the wizard.
when i think of more questions or suggestions ill reply again
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I'm not exactly sure of what you mean about the wheel mouse. You mean like the one the Artemis has?
As for crossbow going onto the Wizard... i don't think that'll happen. But i'll double check.

Hi
cougargt said:
?Why don't they make a full size (3.5" or whatever) screen in a cdma with more memory. Hell it doesn't even have to be vga. I use mine as a pda, if I wanted a tiny screen, I'd just get a damn phone.
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I can't say too much, but if the rumour I heard is true, you might get something like that in the second half of this year. *wink-wink, nudge-nudge*

Let us show HTC, that we want support for SDHC microSD-cards > 2 GB!

In the near future bigger cards than 2 GB will be necessary. So let HTC know, we want a firmware update for those SDHC cards for the P3300!
So contact
http://www.europe.htc.com/de/htcp3300/support/csbyemail.html
(The IMEI-field would accept '---' as well!)
and ask them for a SDHC firmware update! I myself have already done it.

e-mail sent!
I have sent a similar e-mail and think it's a good idea!

already written .

upupup..........

it may not be a software issue at all
it could be a hardware limitation of the sd cntrl

Sent:
Dear sirs,
I am quite pleased with my P3300, except for one point: the SD card capacity is too little for modern use. I've been told that this is not a hardware issue. Please issue some kind of software path, so the almost perfect P3300 will work with topical flash memory cards.
Regards,
Paul Guijt

Rudegar said:
it may not be a software issue at all
it could be a hardware limitation of the sd cntrl
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I often read, that it should work! Look at all those digicams: Update no problem! And the P3300 is not that old.

Sent an email too. Would be nice to kick an 8Gig card in and forget about the ipod.

I also sent an email....

ditto
Ditto -sent email

Great idea, I just sent my email and would incourage others to do the same, let's keep this thread active and up at the top. If the problem is indeed software related, a patch would be nice

Hi guys,
I have found a driver that supports sdhc cards on an Eten phone.
Do you guy's think this could also work on the artemis??
I have installed the driver on my mda compact 3 and nothing went wrong.
I can still read my 1gb microsd card.
My probleem is that i don’t have a sdhc card to test this driver?
Can somebody test this for us?
http://eten-users.eu/index.php?showtopic=9410&st=45

Hi
I think there is no big chance to run in P3300 because the eten x500 and the P3600 use another type of cpu (Samsung SC32442). But i'll give it a try.
Groovie

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=310456&page=4

Send Mail
Regards from chile

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Upgraded universals?

Have you done the upgrade to your universal?
I am considering the upgrade myself, I now own two universals and I am probably going to do the upgrade on one of them!
What I want to know is, what programs do you use now that you could not use before the upgrade? How well does those programs work? Do you see any improvments on the device speed? Are the programs that you where able to run before running better now after the upgrade?
I would like to hear your opinions on this, and if possible make a list on whats running better, and what still can not run!
Thanks in advance!

No coments on this...?

I think it may help people respond if you let them know which time of upgrade you are considering. For example bigger SD card, 128MB ram chips, windows mobile 6.1?

RobinGill said:
I think it may help people respond if you let them know which time of upgrade you are considering. For example bigger SD card, 128MB ram chips, windows mobile 6.1?
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Oh sorry I forgot that little detail! Anyway, I was reffering to the 128 MB ram upgrade!

If you are planning to run lots of programs at the same time, or a fully featured Sat-Nav application. Then the 128Mb upgrade is worth it. you will not notice any real increase in loading speeds of programs, you might find browsing the internet over Wi-Fi a little quicker. Have you looked at the Uni wiki home page for info on what the upgrade involves.
look here http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Universal_128MBRAM

D.Apsley, after reading the update vendors list that you're able to do it yourself? How much would you charge?

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