O2 official websit has already introduced Xda Atom in the market. I am wondering if anyone has already seen it in HK yet. If yes, I have some questions below and please help me out with. thank you very much.
1. How much is it?
2. Is English and Chinese version also available in HK?
3. Who carries this PDA?
1) It's HK$4,980 so it's approx. US$638.50
2) English version will be out before X'mas so they say.. And Chinese version in Jan.
3) It's not out yet, but you should be able to get it anywhere *if* they don't sell out... Or just order it from Expansys...
Some O2 info on the HTC Prophet:
http://www.seeo2.com/product/XdaAtom/template/XdaAtomProductInfo.vm
For some strange reason, the specs listing shows some peculiar "mistakes" (such as CPU 'Intel PXA272 416MHz' instead of 'Texas Instruments OMAP850 200 MHz' as quoted from Mobile.review... :roll:
Any more info, anyone?
Greets, Leon Steyns.
Leon_Steyns said:
Some O2 info on the HTC Prophet:
http://www.seeo2.com/product/XdaAtom/template/XdaAtomProductInfo.vm
For some strange reason, the specs listing shows some peculiar "mistakes" (such as CPU 'Intel PXA272 416MHz' instead of 'Texas Instruments OMAP850 200 MHz' as quoted from Mobile.review... :roll:
Any more info, anyone?
Greets, Leon Steyns.
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Not that strange Leon... In fact YOU are making some mistakes by getting your devices mixed up :lol:
1) O2 Atom is NOT HTC Prophet, but a device made by Quanta.
2) O2 Atom has PXA272 where HTC Prophet has sloppy OMAP850/195Mhz
I really like the Prophet, although HTC should have given it a faster CPU.
CT.
O2 Atom is competely diffenent device than HTC. Please noted that
Jerry
Thank you for your informaiton CL55. I may go to HK if I got a chance in Jan. Can you give me a full name of where I can order it from?
Jerry
The price of O2 Atom in HK should be HK$5980. For $4980 is Dopod 818 Pro.
CL55 said:
1) It's HK$4,980 so it's approx. US$638.50
2) English version will be out before X'mas so they say.. And Chinese version in Jan.
3) It's not out yet, but you should be able to get it anywhere *if* they don't sell out... Or just order it from Expansys...
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I stand corrected...
What's the point of "wasting" such a wonderful device with a less-capable engine? haven't consumer electronics manufacturers learned from carmakers? :roll:
Sorry.
Greets, Leon Steyns.
Are someone actually owing the Dopod 818 Pro yet?
Althought the device is out for sale for almost a week now, there doesn't seems to be anyone that actually owes one.
I'm dying to hear from first hand opinion about the prophet.
Frankly speaking, the engine for the prophet is not that bad. The only problem is that probably none of the Pocket PC are currently optimise to take advantage of parallel processing using the OMAP processors.
Given that Universe and Wizard are also using OMAP, I would think it will take 6 months to a year before the software developers will do something about it, and that means more upgrade $$$.
Although Prophet is about SGD$200 cheaper than Atom, the savings is zeroised if you take into consideration of the additional software upgrade costs.
Demand and Supply. That's how free trade works.
Expansys - O2 XDA Atom (HK Warranty, EN)
Hi Guys
Bit of a newbie - I'm considering buying the atom from expansys which is available on this link
http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=126950
Would anyone be able to give me a feel on the implications of the HK warranty.
I'm a little concerned I may end up with a rushed out model with poor english etc etc etc
Cheers guys
Related
hi
i want to get as many ppl on this band wagon.... DOnt buy any new ppcs.. lets wait it out and try to get companys like o2,vodafone,qtek and imate to give us 2005 upgrades...
i figure if we dont buy..they might just give in...
BTW: applause to HP and dell for the upgrades
Hello!
Do we know that they are NOT gonna offer this upgrade to us?
Björn
well not sure about s and i
but somebody did get some reply to a mail that 1.72 was the last
rom for xdaII from o2 or something
actually no confirmation yet.. but judging from the support or lack of it more to the point from imate etc.. i can safely assume they will not..
plus the best defence is a good offence..
Hello!
Why is everybody complaining about the support? What has happend?
Björn
I'm having trouble understanding how 2005 can realistically work properly on an XDA2...
isn't it a bit like putting XP on a PentiumII 333?
Ant
well newer pda's with 2005 is not that more powerfull then xda2's
cpu speed or memory have not really skyrocket'd that much
newer devices just come with wifi really and maybe 500Mhz cpu's insted of 400
and VGA
RE
I would be happy if O2 gives my O2 XDA II the WM2003SE upgrade... with a small fee though.
What makes you think they would provide the WM2005 upgrade?
I think O2 is trying to monopolize the market.
@zohaer21: i can agree on your frustration cause the product is not made compatible with other types then the xdaII, coincidentally the type being used the most probably and being modified to the rightful end-owners wishes use, likely against the wishes of the developers.
WM2k5 is launched but forgot to mention that at this moment it's only available for a certain type of mobile phone. Which type of wm2k5 is being discussed and described on all the sites? Neato.
Applause to HP & Dell indeed. Their prices are the same as XDA types yet their upgrades on software... ohlala, what a difference.
@WaspWorld: reading many informational sites on Mobile phones, it's more like one local/geographical user will have luck and another can bite the dust, which is wrong yes. Try finding a general QTek support site, you'll end up biting the dust paying more where you bought it.
@ Anton: from what I've been reading here, wm2k5 runs smooth on an xdaII. Isn't more like it's built with more extras, so the end-user would be obliged to buy a new phone because the current phone doesn't support it? Remember the fact that it's (new) software with new 'features'.
I could get XP running on a PentiumI 200MMX, sluggish system but it ran ok, bugged out the non-necessities and it ran better.
@Rudegar: true, so it's not that the xdaII isn't up for wm2k5.
by not upgrading ?
they dont make their money selling the devices
since the device cost alot more if you dont get it
with a cellphoen subscription
so they are spending money when people buy their phones
of cause they plan on making even more on the subscription
the reason i think they would not offer the upgrade is because of
the support cost it would bring yet another platform for their tech's to
advice people about how to get working and how to get working like their old nokia worked and ....
and about monopolize then i guess that depend on where you are
because they are not present here at all
@Rudegar: so true. That's why large OEM companies like HP & Dell have such a large support staff. For the rest of them like most of use are subject to, it's tougher to provide excellent support. I guess that's one of the major reasons for the existence of this forum.
I think they will never offer an uograde to make us looking always for the missing things as I am sure they will never offer us the device of our dreams. there will be always something missing to look forward to buy it when they offer it in a new device lacking some other things,... and so on
Does the wifi work?
Do you like the mouse button?
Does it take 2 GB mini SD cards?
How many hours can you use TomTom on one battery load? (wifi, Bluetooth, GSM, FM Radio, enabled)
(That's 5 receivers!)
T-mobile germany has a P3300 (T-Mobile MDA compact III) on the website.
A dutch guy maggoo has a preproduction? T-Mobile compact III, only he is on Holiday now...
His wifi is not working BTW...
Offcourse BengalBoy (King of gadgets) has a preproduction? P3300 since august 2006.
Apparently, Bengalboy has posted his on ebay
http://cgi.ebay.com/HTC-Artemis-P33...ryZ64355QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Nice Phone and a ugly Woman
LOL,
i wish i would own such a sweet device for changing it with my Trion or Wizard. The only thing i really appreciate is the FM receiver. Everything else i wouldnt exchange with my Trion. Due the fact that this device is not that perfomant like other PDAs
But why not having a small device in the pocket? Fits perfectly to my suit
I was thinking about the GPS.... Does the GPS work fine?? I really2 like the size
That ebay auction looks fishy to me. No recent feedback, bank transfer, no warranties etc etc....
guess it has not been release yet still, same here for my country singapore, anticipating it release along with the p3600
Hi!
I did actually test the device last Saturday. It was displayed at the Microsoft stand on a Norwegian multimedia exhibit. The device performed very well and the GPS and FM tuner worked perfectly. The head of Microsoft Windows Mobile in Norway confirmed that the mass production started October 13th, and that the device would be shipped to Europe after 15 days (October 28th).
PK
paalkr said:
Hi!
I did actually test the device last Saturday. It was displayed at the Microsoft stand on a Norwegian multimedia exhibit. The device performed very well and the GPS and FM tuner worked perfectly. The head of Microsoft Windows Mobile in Norway confirmed that the mass production started October 13th, and that the device would be shipped to Europe after 15 days (October 28th).
PK
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oct in europe so soon wow, dunno when it will b shipped to singapore or whether it would b sold in singapore under htc
Blackberry on Artemis?
Does anyone know if it will support Blackberry connections?
The Artemis Proto is available for purchase. The ebay auction was mine and not fishy.
As for the "ugly woman", I suggest getting your eyes checked immediately, or, should you be at CES in Vegas this January, come introduce yourself to me and say it to my face. Hehe... but we all know you never would..
BegalBoy - don't know if anyone else has greeted you, but it's great to have you on the forum! You're a legend! Keep up the exceptional work.
V
Thank you Vijay555 for the welcome. I visit XDA-Devs all the time. This is the "Site" for operating system development and individual work for improving the performance of the devices we all love. It has been the only place since I got my first XDAII (imate Pocket PC) back in the day to offer assistance and improvement on issues with the operating systems long before solutions are provided by the manufacter. I always have respected the "code warriors" here and the fact that you rarely see any juvenile posts,,, only tech and device related. But I couldn't resist when I saw that unusual comment about one of my girls.
Thanks to all of you for assisting the community, if I can ever be of any help providing ROMs on unreleased devices don't hesitate to ask.
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Thanks to all of you for assisting the community, if I can ever be of any help providing ROMs on unreleased devices don't hesitate to ask.
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It would be nice if you could dump the roms on your unreleased devices and post them here, if you need technical assistance just ask
just out of curiosity, where do u get the devices so early?? I saw that no one bid for them on ebay... but what you have to do if you want to sell them is send the ebay auction link to people at imei-check, they usually buy preproduction devices at any price to have the unlockers ready when the devices are released.
was really tempted to bid n buy the item coz its not available in singapore yet, really a neat device after seeing the video introduction on Youtube by none other than bengalboy himself, the p3600 n p3300 are really devices worth waiting for, would choose either one to replace my exisiting O2 mini aka magician which have been serving me well still...
any idea regarding the price over in your country yet?
Zomg it's BengalBoy
hey there bro nice to see you here, yeah this is probably the best gadget forum in regards to wm phones, hope to see ya around more often you could contribute greatly to the community,
p.s. nice site you have
Be happy to dump the ROM for you guys, got some instructions??? Its prototype, but, maybe you guys can help me.... I have this proto rom as well as a new ROM with Tom Tom on board.. Which do you want? Would be nice if someone could help me CID unlock my device to install the new ROM on.. Also have the Trinity if you want that ROM as well...
pardon my newbie-ness but just whats the purpose of dumping the ROM here?
BegalBoy, this is a good description of how to dump roms the "hard way", so to speak. There are other easier tools, but they've given mixed result on the Treo, so this method is generally sound.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_HowtoDumpRom&action=BackLinks
lmf_slacker: we enjoy taking roms apart to see what's been changed, updated, perhaps incorporate new features that haven't migrated into our roms yet. Not all operators are diligent in updating "obsolete" devices, but we like to keep them alive!
V
i can see from the link http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index...on=Back Links that u can change the language of the device if u change the ROM, is that all u change?
(Anxiously waiting for the WM6 ROM)
Read this...
O2 Asia is about to offer free Windows Mobile 6 upgrade for the Xda Atom Life! This free update will be available to all current Atom Life users, and will involve either a download from the O2 Web site or a visit to one of its service centers. The upgrade will change the operating system on the Atom Life from Windows Mobile 5.0 Pocket PC Phone Edition to Windows Mobile 6 (WM6) Professional.
Since its availability from May 12, the Atom Life will become one of the first commercially-available Windows Mobile products to sport the newer OS. Atom Life handhelds sold in stores from June onwards will also be preloaded with WM6. In comparison, Dopod, which will be acquired by HTC, will be upgrading its selected devices to WM6 in July.
O2 Atom Life will still feature its enhancements, the O2 SMS Plus and O2 MediaPlus. They have been tested on the new OS, and will still be available on the Atom Life after the upgrade. O2 added that they are currently testing WM6 on its upcoming Xda Flame (Specifications) and all of their phones which will be launched in 2007 will be opearting with WM6. The only thing left is to hear about an upgrade for the Xda Zinc and Xda Graphite soon.
Source : cnet
Im hopeful, but o2 is generally slow at this type of thing so I would not be to impatient. For my uses WM6 doesn't offer much more either. But its always nice to have the latest...
I found this while googling other sites about the flame.
"Wm5 disapointed but i made the sales person call his friend who works at the o2 shop in hong kong and he said that wm6 will be available in a month. They are still testing it and i will have an update as soon as it is released."
I don't know how realiable this is but who knows.
From this page...
http://forum.mypdacafe.com/viewtopic.php?t=13042&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=270
Hi guys,
Just got a negative reply from O2
Here goes
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Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 4:34 PM
Subject: [Case#BF19151/1] Flame - TT0 - WM6
Dear Jim,
Thank you for contacting O2 Asia Technical Support.
You may wish to be advised that O2 has recently released the Windows Mobile 6 upgrade for Xda Atom Life users. Aside from that, O2 Asia currently has no plans of providing WM6 for current models including XDA Flame. You may wish to refer time and again in the near future to www.seeo2.com for further information on the devices with Windows Mobile 6.
Please inform me of any other assistance that you may require. I wish you success in your future endeavours.
Sincerely,
Judith Taan
O2 Technical Support (Email)
Asia Pacific Region
SACODE: jutaan#
For full listing of retail outlets and information on the latest products,
please visit http://www.seeo2.com
Overall, faster and stable. Better than wm6 838pro. I use spb full keyboard, just as good as a qwert kb. Batteris bad, cannot stand for one day for normal use, also the volumn of speaker is weak that cannot always hear phone rings. hope can improve in near future. I do not need wm6 as no material difference with wm5, I do not use office in pda....
I wouldnt give up just yet fellas, I mean think about how much HTC and Dopod denied they would do WM6 ROM or even a GPS ROM for the trinity, and sure enough eventually both of those were announced etc.
Im just thinking come next month when alot more WM6 Roms roll out, O2 might jump onboard as well, whats the point of having a pretty powerful device, but being too cheap to give consumers a WM6 Rom?
Osir1s said:
Im just thinking come next month when alot more WM6 Roms roll out, O2 might jump onboard as well, whats the point of having a pretty powerful device, but being too cheap to give consumers a WM6 Rom?
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I agree. I'm sure something like this would happen. It's pretty stupid to release such a powerful PDA with an outdated OS...
jimlau said:
Hi guys,
Just got a negative reply from O2
Here goes
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Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 4:34 PM
Subject: [Case#BF19151/1] Flame - TT0 - WM6
Dear Jim,
Thank you for contacting O2 Asia Technical Support.
You may wish to be advised that O2 has recently released the Windows Mobile 6 upgrade for Xda Atom Life users. Aside from that, O2 Asia currently has no plans of providing WM6 for current models including XDA Flame. You may wish to refer time and again in the near future to www.seeo2.com for further information on the devices with Windows Mobile 6.
Please inform me of any other assistance that you may require. I wish you success in your future endeavours.
Sincerely,
Judith Taan
O2 Technical Support (Email)
Asia Pacific Region
SACODE: jutaan#
For full listing of retail outlets and information on the latest products,
please visit http://www.seeo2.com
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This is some idiot who is responding from O2.
Today wm6 for zinc has been announced, check out msmobiles / seeo2.com for details.
I think flame is the flagship model of the company and they will surely release wm6 for it.
Reply from O2 Asia Pacific
Dear Flame Users,
I'm using XDA flame and whoever posted that reply tried to discourage Flame users.
Because i got an offical reply from O2 that they are currently testing Flame upgrade and will release soon
i got following message from O2
kindly note that O2 has a policy of testing new software and applications thoroughly to ensure that potential faults and issues are mitigated so that the customer experience and enjoyment of the new device is not affected. As a result, we are conducting rigorous tests on Windows Mobile 6 with the unique O2 applications and other software intended for the Xda Flame. Customers can expect to an announcement on the availability of Windows Mobile 6 upgrades for the Xda Flame in the near future.
Hope this information is useful. Thank You.
Warmest Regards,
Joanne Goh
O2 Technical Support (Email)
Asia Pacific Region
SACODE: jgoh#
For full listing of retail outlets and information on the latest products,
please visit http://www.seeo2.com
I'm using XDA Zinc ... and prior to wm 6.0 launched, I asked O2 about the upcoming wm 6.0 but they answered exactly like the one posted above that they were not providing wm 6.0 for zinc ... but guess what now they have it ...
I guess it is standard answer for someone that asked about availability of wm 6.0 ... i believe wm 6.0 will be available for flame also ... just wait patiently ... after all it is the current flagship of o2 ...
From the information above, some may conlude that O2 would finally release the WM6 rom, just as I do. Actually I think, maybe there're still something imperfect of the WM6 drivers for the indepent graphic card in FLAME, so it is still being tested time and again.
Nowadays, I noticed in a Chinese online shopping website, that they have the unique FLAME to sold with WM6(simplified Chinese edition)!!!
http://auction1.taobao.com/auction/0/item_detail-0db2-7bbf4068423ebb333ff1cd39fb0804c1.jhtml
I wonder where they got it, is that a signal? Oh, the seller also claim that they have a forum which is the official one of O2(www.iio2.com).
NOT ADs! cauz I'm not quite believe that.
solaluna said:
From the information above, some may conlude that O2 would finally release the WM6 rom, just as I do. Actually I think, maybe there're still something imperfect of the WM6 drivers for the indepent graphic card in FLAME, so it is still being tested time and again.
Nowadays, I noticed in a Chinese online shopping website, that they have the unique FLAME to sold with WM6(simplified Chinese edition)!!!
http://auction1.taobao.com/auction/0/item_detail-0db2-7bbf4068423ebb333ff1cd39fb0804c1.jhtml
I wonder where they got it, is that a signal? Oh, the seller also claim that they have a forum which is the official one of O2(www.iio2.com).
NOT ADs! cauz I'm not quite believe that.
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Actually, this is truth. WM6 Chinese version are published already
danny3358 said:
Actually, this is truth. WM6 Chinese version are published already
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I looked around that website-iio2, and found that it is not an official verison, as it is replanted from D900. Amazing! But I guess there is not a proper driver for the independent graphic card in this version.
im looking for someone to upgrade my htc to 128Mb
Best rgds
Hi tsebol12
I've just spoken to retronix www.retronix.com about this procedure. They quoted me £50 for the labour and £15 each for the 2 ram chips - total cost £80. A bit of a bargain I would say.
Kind regards,
Jon Pyle
.........
Anyone done this yet?
Please, anyone upgraded in the UK yet? How did it go?
anybody know how to do it in indonesia?
Can i use the ram from HTC Himalaya??
By RAM do you mean SYSTEM RAM or some form of FLASH RAM?
thingonaspring said:
Hi tsebol12
I've just spoken to retronix www.retronix.com about this procedure. They quoted me £50 for the labour and £15 each for the 2 ram chips - total cost £80. A bit of a bargain I would say.
Kind regards,
Jon Pyle
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Why 2 ram chips? I thought what is needed is an additional 64mb ram.
thingonaspring said:
Hi tsebol12
I've just spoken to retronix www.retronix.com about this procedure. They quoted me £50 for the labour and £15 each for the 2 ram chips - total cost £80. A bit of a bargain I would say.
Kind regards,
Jon Pyle
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Hey Jon,
Have you had this done yet? If I were to phone them up and ask them about upgrading an O2 Exec to 128MB would they know what I am talking about or do I need to mention some techincal details?
regards
Darren
sofene said:
Why 2 ram chips? I thought what is needed is an additional 64mb ram.
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if i'm right there are two 32mb inside, so must be changed for 2 64mb
darkblak said:
Hey Jon,
Have you had this done yet? If I were to phone them up and ask them about upgrading an O2 Exec to 128MB would they know what I am talking about or do I need to mention some techincal details?
regards
Darren
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hi, no i didnt do it, my english /technical term./ is nott so good so propably if i 'll call them they would not know what i want from them.
hi....so did anybody did 128 Ram upgrade in UK..? how did it go.?
cheers
thingonaspring said:
Hi tsebol12
I've just spoken to retronix www.retronix.com about this procedure. They quoted me £50 for the labour and £15 each for the 2 ram chips - total cost £80. A bit of a bargain I would say.
Kind regards,
Jon Pyle
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Quick question - what exactly did you ask of them? I'd be interested to get this done pending on what the results of the Android OS/ROM development process goes...
Cheers
Replacing RAM on HTC Wizard
Hi, I'm very interested in upgrading the RAM on my MDA Vario but needs some info first:
1. What are the chip numbers and chip make on existing 64Mb RAM systems (I don't want to take mine apart just yet).
2. How is the chip connected, e.g. does it have legs or is it using ball grid array (BGA) i.e. no legs are visible.
3. Can someone post a high detail photo of chips on board please so I can see how awkward it is to get at?
I have the skills to replace surface mount devices myself, if I know the original chip details I may be able to track down suitable 128Mb configuration.
Thanks
Wrong section
Welcome to forums
Universal does not means all devices!
In fact is a model
Please enter to the wizard section
Good luck,
Are memory chips from other devices any good?
I have an XDA II (HTC Andes, HTC Himalaya) with 128mb of RAM lying around. Is there any possible way one could use its memory chips to upgrade the Universal, and then put back the two 32mb chips back into the XDA II ?
Bump for this thread
I'm going to call Retronix to ask about this upgrade however i need to know what i'm asking them
Do i ask them about upgrading my O2 xDA Exec from 64mb to 128mb or am i asking about a type of upgrade? (i.e. BGA Reballing etc)
Can anyone help with this?
I am not allowed to post links, so decrypt that: look for ppctechs in the www, its a com domain. The Path on the Server is 'HTC-Universal_439/upgrades/64MB-to-128MB-Internal-RAM-Upgrade_1051-370.htm'.
They say it is BGA, and refer to that Forum as a base resource.
Am i right?
The upgrade is very expensive. I'd rather buy a new phone.
For Anyone Of You Looking For The Above Mentioned?
This's the response from MWG:
Dear Sir,
Thank you for contacting MWg Technical Support.
With reference to your query below, MWg Technical Support appreciate your response.
However, we regret to inform you that MWg has not release any news or any update(s) on upgrading the device's Operating System to Windows Mobile 6.1 for MWg Atom V.
MWg Technical Support will values your feedback to the relevant department for further possible reviews and actions (no further news at the moment).
NOTE : ROM version of O2 device(s) are not inter-exchangeable nor inter-flashable due to licensing issue and software limitation, as it may void off the device warranty if the device is still under warranty (based on proof of purchase). It is always advisable to upgrade your O2 Asia device(s) only with upgrade(s) released by O2 (for that specific country which you purchased from and the ROM version for that particular model to prevent any software conflict, which may arised).
We hope the information provided above is useful.
Do inform us if you require any further assistance in the near future.
Thank You.
Warmest Regards,
Thuwaibah Bte Abdul Rahman
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OH! Does it mean there will be not update for Atom V????
conclusion,
dont buy products from MWG.
MWG Atom V WM 6.1 Upgrade
Perhaps or no idea at all, since the person at MWG themself doesn't know if WM 6.1 is going to be released for Atom V.To think of it its true that MWG products are a reflections of O2.Promises are abundant but never delivered, I doubt they are going to make it big time in Asia already they are lacking behind from most of the competitors..even Eten(Acer bought over this Company recently) can managed to come out a better device than MWG.
What a shame...& what a regret for buying a ****ty products w/o the proper support!
if u want u guys can install wm6.5 on atom v
PM me if u need help
Hey i need 6.1 for my WMG Atom V, also need the firmware update if you have
masterg0g0 said:
if u want u guys can install wm6.5 on atom v
PM me if u need help
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I need the atom V 6.1 or higger version to udpate, my battery backup last not more than 1/2 day. need firmware update too.