I have followed the Blackberry-related threads, but a couple of questions remain. Forgive me if I missed an answer that's already posted.
First, I'm using the PDA2K with a Cingular SIM. I have the the "unlimited PDA data" plan, which a Cingular data support technician tells me should qualify me for Blackberry service. In fact, I used that plan when I had a Blackberry 7290 through Cingular before I got the i-Mate device.
I installed the O2 version of the Pocket PC Blackberry client software- with no problem (even though after the install a message appeared telling me that the client software might not display properly because it was meant for an earlier device).
Question 1: When the Blackberry client is running on the Pocket PC, the handheld won't sync with ActiveSync. Is this to be expected?
Question 2: My company's BES redirector software on my desktop doesn't see my Pocket PC even when the Blackberry client software is running on the handheld, the handheld's in its cradle and the cradle's connected via the USB port to my desktop. Is this because of some conflict with ActiveSync perhaps?
Question 3: In checking the settings on the Blackberyy client software on my handhled, I see no PIN #. Is this because Cingular's ROM doesn't serve up a PIN # for the device - because, in turn, Cingularl doesn't support Blackberry connect software? I take it there's no other way to load my old Blackberry PIN # (from my Blackberry 7290 days - it's still "alive" on the Cingular Blackberry website) short of through a ROM update of some sort?
Many thanks.
Charlie
We are in the same exact boat except for i am on AT&T. I tried the O2 version and had the same problem. That is because the PIN on blackberry devices are harcoded into the device it self and the PIN from blackberry connect is generated by the software(most likely in association with IMEI, which is the truly globally unique ID for mobile devices). Then I installed the .CAB file extracted from the German T-Mobile III(same device as ours) and the desktop software. Except for the Connect software on the device is in German, there is no problem. The software generated PIN when I opened it, and talkes to the desktop, so the BES side also get the new PIN. Seems like evrything should be working now but no--I think the blackberry APN and IP need to be changed from the BB Connect settings but I don't know how, since those are carried over from the German T-Mobile settings. I will try to contact German T-Mobile to see if T-Mobile US supports it or not, if yes, I will switch.
I know of Blackberry, but I never heard about a client on the PocketPC. I currently have the $19.99 Media Works Unlimited plan, can I use that application as well? What benefits would I have in using it? If I could use it, where can I download it? Thanks.
Here is a very complete guide for everybody who is using blackberry but tired of the limited functionality and want to switch to pocket pc using blackberry connect. I have IMate PDA2K, also named as Blue Angel, XDA IIs, MDAIII and some other names and I am trying any possible solution to have blackberry connect work on this device
1. At the current time, blackberry connect is officially offered in the following countries: A. UK by O2, supported device is XDA II/MDA II or the same device under other names, but essentially all are the same, manufactured by HTC, but the support and connectivity from O2 is ver poor. The blackberry version on this is 1.2, designed to work with pocket pc 2002. It's english version so the cab file should install on WWE version. B. Germany by T-Mobile, supports both MDAII and III. The software is blackberry connect version 2.0, designed to work with pocket PC 2003. The software is in Germany and the ROM update will not install on WWE version devise. C. Austrlia and Netherland also by T-Mobile under the same capacity.
2. There is no U.S. carrier right now who supports blackberry connect officially right now, either on the pocket PC or Palm platform. Might be available on Sony-Ericson 910, which is Sybiam based. Even if that is the case, it's of no value to pocket pc users.
3. There are examples of the O2 version BB connect working on MDA II here through T-Mobile. Go to www.xda-developers.com and looking for articles posted by cbrow51. He has detailed guide on how to make it work(Through BWC, not BES)
4. All installable .CAB and desktop BB can be found from the xda site.
5. I installed the german version of the BB connect .CAB file on my device as well as the desktop software(that can be installed in English version). The device talkes to the desktop PC and the BES side getts the correct PIN. I put my SIM card from my AT&T blackberry handheld on my new device. It's not working yet, I think I need to change the built in APN and IP address for connection from the BB connect software(which should be connecting to German) through someway to make it work.
Anybody interested in this, Let me know
Let's make it work!
Latest update on Blackberry Connect in the U.S.
Talked to AT&T support and the BES support from my company today. This is especially relevant to SX66/MDA III/XDA III/Blue Angel/QTeq 9090/IMate PDA2K, basically all the same device manufactured by HTC for different branding, which runs Pocket PC 2003. And it is related to BES.
1. The wireless carrier should have no problem with the connection. The only thing realte to the carrier side is your SIM, which doesn't really affect the connection as long as your BES side have your correct PIN. The carrier automatically recoganize your PIN when it's registrated in your BES. And it does not use IMEI at all.
2. The BES side should not have problem either since once you have your BB Client on your device talk to your desk top, the PIN should automatically recoganized by the BES
3. The trick is that all PINs on blackberry devices are hardcoded in the device, while through BB Client, it is generated from the software. The RIM server need to recoganize your PIN. I think the BB Connect i am using, which is the the .CAB extracted from the German MDA III(T-Mobile), has some utility to register the software generated PIN with RIM if you are on the T-Mobile German GPRS network, while other carriers don't have.
I will talk to RIM on Monday to see if they can register my PIN. I will keep you guys updated.
Any one interested in this topic, please let's form a ring
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rwu said:
Latest update on Blackberry Connect in the U.S.
Talked to AT&T support and the BES support from my company today. This is especially relevant to SX66/MDA III/XDA III/Blue Angel/QTeq 9090/IMate PDA2K, basically all the same device manufactured by HTC for different branding, which runs Pocket PC 2003. And it is related to BES.
1. The wireless carrier should have no problem with the connection. The only thing realte to the carrier side is your SIM, which doesn't really affect the connection as long as your BES side have your correct PIN. The carrier automatically recoganize your PIN when it's registrated in your BES. And it does not use IMEI at all.
2. The BES side should not have problem either since once you have your BB Client on your device talk to your desk top, the PIN should automatically recoganized by the BES
3. The trick is that all PINs on blackberry devices are hardcoded in the device, while through BB Client, it is generated from the software. The RIM server need to recoganize your PIN. I think the BB Connect i am using, which is the the .CAB extracted from the German MDA III(T-Mobile), has some utility to register the software generated PIN with RIM if you are on the T-Mobile German GPRS network, while other carriers don't have.
I will talk to RIM on Monday to see if they can register my PIN. I will keep you guys updated.
Any one interested in this topic, please let's form a ring
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This is great news! I'm getting my SX66 on Tuesday and I was just going to hack at it till I could get the BB Connect to work.. I've been reading several posts about converting the German to English and people who have problems generating PINs that come up with a "0". The problem is all I can do is research at the moment and just think about how it should work. Do you have any tips for a newbee who will probably blowup the unit a few times??
Any help or guidance will be appreciated.
Very interested in this! I have successfully installed the BB Connect cab on my XDA2i and now just need to know if the pin issue can be sorted.
Do you think this is possible?
I believe the PIN issue can definitely be resolved as long as RIM is willing to take the software PIN, since they are doing so in German already. I am also attaching the BB Connect .CAB file extracted from the German T-Mobile ROM for MDA III. Just copy it to your device and click install it from there shouldn't cause any problem to your SX66
Also, here is the BB Desktop softie, this does have the English installation.
Hokay,
I've installed the BB COnnect on my XDAIIi and the desktop configuration sofware on my laptop, but the BB connect software says the PIN is 0 and the config software on the PC says that the PIN is "Not Configured".
How do you get it to generate a PIN in the 1st place?
squiggs1982 said:
Hokay,
I've installed the BB COnnect on my XDAIIi and the desktop configuration sofware on my laptop, but the BB connect software says the PIN is 0 and the config software on the PC says that the PIN is "Not Configured".
How do you get it to generate a PIN in the 1st place?
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Do you have the latest radio on your IIi? I know on the MDA III the radio has to be upraged as well for the BB Connect software to read the IMEI and generate the soft PIN #.
Again this is only from what I can gather from forums that I have been reading. I will not be able to verify anything until next week when my SX66 comes in.
Hope this helps you.
As follows:
ROM Version 1.10.00 WWE
ROM Date 24/12/04
Radio Version 1.00.00
PRotocol VErsion 1337.39
ExtROM VErsion 1.10.124 WWE
squiggs1982 said:
As follows:
ROM Version 1.10.00 WWE
ROM Date 24/12/04
Radio Version 1.00.00
PRotocol VErsion 1337.39
ExtROM VErsion 1.10.124 WWE
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Have you run any firmware updates on your unit?
I have read on this forum that the Radio needs to be upgraded for the BB Connect to read the IMEI properly in order to generate a PIN#. Most of the reasearch I have been doing is on the Blue Angel. But I do know that there is a higher rev of the Radio than 1.00.00.
Hope this helps.
squiggs1982 said:
As follows:
ROM Version 1.10.00 WWE
ROM Date 24/12/04
Radio Version 1.00.00
PRotocol VErsion 1337.39
ExtROM VErsion 1.10.124 WWE
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Here is a link with a doc on how to get started with the BB Connect client.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=12589&highlight=blackberry+pin+radio
But again, I think the Radio has to be upgraded first.
I'm not sure if you have done so or not but there is one section on Page 15 of the PDF file that talks about creating a pin.
Tap Start > Settings.
Tap the System tab.
Tap the BlackBerry icon.
On the BlackBerry Introductory screen, tap next.
Read the End User License Agreement carefully, and scroll to the very bottom.
To accept the terms of the End User License Agreement, tap Accept. Your PIN is created and the
service is started.
Good luck.
Hmm...
Looks like it might be the end of the road then. As far as I can tell, there is no newer radio version ...
So at risk of sounding silly.
Has anyone managed to succesfully configure a BlueAngel with Blackberry and if so, what levels of ROM were they using, what version of the client and what carriers as I would also like to be able to set this up.
Thanks
What is the BB Connect version u r using? I had the same problem with the 1.2 version stripped from O2's ROM. But the 2.0 version generated PIN with no problem.
Hi there,
Using version 1.2. Where would I come accross v2? I'm assuming the one you posted above is in German? Sadly, I don't speak any!
version 2 generates a pin fine - but the only one i've been able to get was using the german client and although this sounds picky, i'd quite like to use a client that I can understand the settings properly (to any german readers, please dont take any offence from what i've written, its my own fault I didnt study german more at school!!)
also, the german client uses the t-mobile access point settings. i'm on o2 uk so how do i go about changing the ap's over?
Ta
Actually, for me, the GErman client still doesn't generatethe PIN correctly? :?
Contacted RIM a couple of time and seems like the German version of BB Connect from T-Mobile is not working for AT&T, at least. The problem is that it automatically look for the german T-Mobile net work to connect to the blackberry APN and IP. It is possible to change that from the CAB file though so it looks for defferent carrier's network. Bottom line, the data transfer is through the SIM card, which is carrier dependent. That is why on your blackberry device you will see the carrier's screen when you power it on. The BB devices' PIN are pre-assigned to carriers. It won't work if you shift carrier. Now, come back to our problem, we need somebody who knows how to cook the CAB file. Who can help here?
squiggs1982 said:
Hokay,
I've installed the BB COnnect on my XDAIIi and the desktop configuration sofware on my laptop, but the BB connect software says the PIN is 0 and the config software on the PC says that the PIN is "Not Configured".
How do you get it to generate a PIN in the 1st place?
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Answering you purely from my experience.
I got BB client installed on my XDA2 and the desktop BBconfig s/w on my PC connecting to my office network. While my XDA2 is on my cradle and pressing the BBconfig connect button, I supposed the BBConfig establishes the connection to my company BES and generated a PIN which is also registered with the BES server. If any of these steps should fail (e.g. PC not connected to BES) , I suppose the PIN will not be obtained.
In any case, I haven't gotten it to work. My company BES server refuse to recognise my PIN as a valid one.
Hmm... so we need to find out how to register the PIN that is generated with the BB service.
Action points then, guys!
1. Find out how to register the software generated PIN with BES
2. Find out how to switch APNs for different carriers
Hi guys,
My company has MS Exchange and BES servers installed, and few of my co-workers are using the BlackBerry services with regular BB devices. Currently i'm trying to enable this on my XDA IIs (Asian, with latest ROMs). I got the service enabled on my SIM card via my local carrier (Orange Israel). I've tested the SIM on a regular BB device and it worked just fine.
I've installed Blackberry_1.2.4.19.cab (and also tried HTC_PocketPC_TMO_Austria_Germany_Load_Working-1.cab), but the service still does not work. Either the PIN number is not assigned, or the PIN number reported on the device does not match the one in the BES. When i run BBConfig on the desktop it reports that the PIN is not configured.
Also, where should i enter the "activation password", which is generated by the BES in response to a PIN?
Maybe someone can post a step-by-step guide on how to enable BB service on HTC Blue Angel with BES?
Thanks!
http://www.blackberryforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=32
When used as a BB what are the cost like? Is it just a case of installing the cab? Where do i get the cab?
What protocols does it support? just exchange?
There's a small initial connectivity fee for enabling access to BB APN (blackberry.net), and then there's a monthly payment. I'm not sure about the real costs as its handled by my company.
In theory installing the CAB on the device and BB Config on the desktop should be enough if you have a BES server that pushes your e-mail. CAB can be downloaded from forum's FTP site (use the search function to find the exact link).
However, after installing and enabling everythin i still can not get it work. Hitting the "connect" button on the BBConfig results in an error message, and the BB client on the device can not connect to the server.
I know that some people managed to get it working. It would be great if one someone could post a detailed guide, as my operator would not provide any support for HTC-based devices.
Getting BES to work on T-Mobile
Some non technical experience:
I run the BES on my MDA III. Whilst I am on T-Mobile UK, our Corporate BES is Vodafone based.
After downloading and installing the BB PC desktop software from T-Mobile Germany (it is in English) for the MDA III, the client software is already resident on my MDA III (it is in the latest extended ROM), I had to get it enabled by T-Mobile. T-Mobile had to send the appropriate service books to the device AND enable the individual sim card at a network level (this latter issue took some discussion between my IT Department and T-Mobile UK).
Since then I have been up and running BES with no problems. The monthly service fee is around £30 from memory (so it is not cheap! :shock: )
Hope this helps.
J
Please forgive me if this was already addressed at some other point. I searched, but could not find the answers I needed. I found the BlackBerry Connect software (after a while on the forums) and installed it on my BA. The software runs, generates a PIN, etc...
Right now, I do not have BB service on my plan, and I am wondering - will this client only work on BB Exchange Connector, or will BB Web Connect work also? I want to make sure I get the service that best suits my needs...
If a PIN is generated w/o sync, do I still need to sync it w/ BB software on a Win PC? I use *nix and that would be inconvinent to say the least...
Also... How the hell do you uninstall BB software if you decide not to use it? There is no entry in the remove programs app...
Thanks!
Does anybody have any practical experience with this peice of software for other than BES connectivity?
Does anybody know if this can be used for PIN messages or other Blackberry push services?
I want to dump my blackberry phone and just use my jasjar. Early reviews of the German ROM with BB Connect seemed to indicate that I would need to download an older T-Mobile ROM with an older radio stack to get BB connect to work.
Can someone point me to a good combination of a more recent ROM (english) with the BB Client software that I can use with a US T-Mobile Enterprise BB account.
thanks,
--Kia
Hi,
you can download the BBC-Client from Vodafone (German version, dunno if there's a WWE one). It's not provider locked like the T-Mobile one and works great with my Uni.
I have the latest qtek rom with radio 1.09 on it.
DD here: http://www.vodafone.de/downloadarea/BBConnect_PocketPC_BB_2.1.2.16.zip
Cheers
Blackberry connect working on unversal
I managed to get everything working. Thanks for the link. In addition here is the link to the activesync with the Blackberry desktop software.
http://support.vodafone.de/publicfiles/ActiveSyncInstaller2.1.1.9.zip
First I installed the bbclient on the uni and then the desktop software it read my settings from the other blackberry desktop (the one used with my device) automatically.
Everything is fine except when the Universal is docked it disconnects the GPRS tunnel; probabely firewall issues.
any ideas?
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kbehnia said:
Everything is fine except when the Universal is docked it disconnects the GPRS tunnel; probabely firewall issues.
any ideas?
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Glad to hear that you got it working.
The disconnect is a normal behaviour. BBConnect will always disconnect from GPRS a soon as you attach the device to ASync. AFAIK there is nothing you can do about.
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kbehnia said:
I managed to get everything working. Thanks for the link. In addition here is the link to the activesync with the Blackberry desktop software.
http://support.vodafone.de/publicfiles/ActiveSyncInstaller2.1.1.9.zip
First I installed the bbclient on the uni and then the desktop software it read my settings from the other blackberry desktop (the one used with my device) automatically.
Everything is fine except when the Universal is docked it disconnects the GPRS tunnel; probabely firewall issues.
any ideas?
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Use Airfix and checkit out, it will not kill Wireless connection while Active Sync is on. Cheers,
Strange thing - when i turn off my device (having BB client running) after i turn it back on in 10 minutes - BB is down and there is no icon in the taskbar. It does even disappear in Settings !
I've installed BB Connect on SD card.
Anybody experienced anything like that ?
Resolved.
BBConnect HAS to be installed in the main memory - no way to make it work correctly been on SD.
One more issue noticed - from the first try i was not able to see the BlackBerry folders in the list of my messanger. Messages are comming and i can preview them at the bottom of the screen, but when i goto messenger (standard) i do not see anything.
I've created a new dummy mail account and - VOILA ! i can see the BlackBerry folders. After 3-4 hours is disappeared again. :-( . I removed the dummy account and again was able to see the BB folders for a while. Then the whole story repeats.
Don't understand how to overlwhelm this.
Anybody has any ideas ?
cross coupling threads so we don't loose anybody
http://forum.xda-developers.com/posting.php?mode=reply&t=60563
dependance on phone provider.
kbehnia said:
I managed to get everything working. Thanks for the link. In addition here is the link to the activesync with the Blackberry desktop software.
http://support.vodafone.de/publicfiles/ActiveSyncInstaller2.1.1.9.zip
First I installed the bbclient on the uni and then the desktop software it read my settings from the other blackberry desktop (the one used with my device) automatically.
Everything is fine except when the Universal is docked it disconnects the GPRS tunnel; probabely firewall issues.
any ideas?
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Do you know if this software can work with every mobile provider? I'm in spain, using vodafone but they told me doesn't support this sofware and said nothing is available to use BB in a universal...Maybe a commercial matter in order to sell BB hardware...