WM6/ROM/Backup question - P3600 ROM Development

hallo everyone.
Just a shortie: is it possible to backup all the data (for example with SPB Backup) and then restore everything after flashing a different ROM (also WM6 obviously).
I'd like to play a little bit with ROMs to find THAT PERFECT ONE, but configuring everything to suit my needs takes a few days after flashing. I have a life, you know...
Thanks for looking. Cheers!

I know what you mean ;-)
For Backup/restore I am using PPCPimBackup - This tool works perfect for my issues.

sabestian said:
hallo everyone.
Just a shortie: is it possible to backup all the data (for example with SPB Backup) and then restore everything after flashing a different ROM (also WM6 obviously).
I'd like to play a little bit with ROMs to find THAT PERFECT ONE, but configuring everything to suit my needs takes a few days after flashing. I have a life, you know...
Thanks for looking. Cheers!
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It is possible but not a good idea!
PIM informations are the same on every rom...but the setting stored in registry can be different.
Full backup save the registry files, and recover them to different rom. This can couse instability, speed problems and so on....
Full backup data is suggested to recover to the same rom!

Hi.
I have the same question a few days ago, but make the test. A backup with SPB Backup under WM5 and restore only the contacts in WM6.
I can tell you the first problem I encounter was with the speed dial function.
Before I restore the contacts, I can assing any contact (created in the moment) to any number in the dialpad. After restore the contacts, appart from loose the previous speed numbers, I got an error when try to configure any of them and was impossible to configure any numeber for speed-dial.
The only solution was in WM5, make a complete sync. of the contacts with outlook, upgrade to WM6 and sync. again with outlook. I know some stuf was lost, but for me the most important was my contact numbers and I got it all.
Hope this help.
Good luck

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Backup of my entire device?

Hi,
First of all: Happy New Year!
Over the last couple of days I have updated my Qutie 9000 for the x-th time, but now I am finally happy with the whole thing.
Installed all my tools and applied all skins and tweaks etc. Now I want to make a backup of the entire thing (OS, apps, registry etc.). So I can re-apply this backup after a crash or when I have gone to far in customising my Qutie... believe me... it happens..
Is it possible to make such a backup that you can re-apply? If not, what would be the best approach to take?
Thanks in advance.
ireneus said:
Hi,
First of all: Happy New Year!
Over the last couple of days I have updated my Qutie 9000 for the x-th time, but now I am finally happy with the whole thing.
Installed all my tools and applied all skins and tweaks etc. Now I want to make a backup of the entire thing (OS, apps, registry etc.). So I can re-apply this backup after a crash or when I have gone to far in customising my Qutie... believe me... it happens..
Is it possible to make such a backup that you can re-apply? If not, what would be the best approach to take?
Thanks in advance.
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U could try sprite backup mate
but I should warn u...do not backup your messages
Would like to know this too. Entire backup, emails, accounts and everything. Have no computer so to set up outlook accounts on etc so my Uni is my baby for everything.
ireneus said:
Hi,
First of all: Happy New Year!
Over the last couple of days I have updated my Qutie 9000 for the x-th time, but now I am finally happy with the whole thing.
Installed all my tools and applied all skins and tweaks etc. Now I want to make a backup of the entire thing (OS, apps, registry etc.). So I can re-apply this backup after a crash or when I have gone to far in customising my Qutie... believe me... it happens..
Is it possible to make such a backup that you can re-apply? If not, what would be the best approach to take?
Thanks in advance.
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use spb backup... it will be optimum for your needs... and you can keep the backed up file on your storage card... so if your uni ever crashes, all you ot to do is to run the backup file....it also supports sequential backing up
kingdomraj said:
use spb backup... it will be optimum for your needs... and you can keep the backed up file on your storage card... so if your uni ever crashes, all you ot to do is to run the backup file....it also supports sequential backing up
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Quite a good program indeed. But, does it actually copy everything?
I did the mistake of backing up AKU2 and restore on AKU3.5. Crashed everything. Even if I only choose specific things.
But, nuff said. Good program, if you use it wisely.
Basically is should be a safe options is to restore (if needed) on the same OS version?
So I would only have to restore the ROM and then restore the backup?
I mean... I have a lot of tweaks and use skins on all my apps... will the registry and the applications be restored as they are now?
Thanks.
Please read http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=278037
Thanks... really helpful stuff!
Not to be used after an upgrade
ireneus said:
Basically is should be a safe options is to restore (if needed) on the same OS version?
So I would only have to restore the ROM and then restore the backup?
I mean... I have a lot of tweaks and use skins on all my apps... will the registry and the applications be restored as they are now?
Thanks.
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yes... you can not use it after upgrade.... for that matter when i upgraded from 3.3 to aku 3.5 and then used it to restore... the system showed aku 3.3 again.... but works great otherwise... have been using it for more thn a yr now
Sprite can restore after a ROM upgrade, SPB cant, provided you follow the instructions in the Sprite FAQ step by step, everything can be restored to the new ROM apart from pop accounts
Sprite it is...
I decided to use Sprite. Works like a charm. Thanks for all your help/advice.
Cheers,
-Ireneus

Total data backup

Hi all,
I have flashed my Universal several times so far, and every time I did so, I have lost some of my data or had problems with backing them up and restoring them again. What I lost were, for example, all the calendar events and tasks, because AS recognized my phone as a new one and didn't let me restore backup from the "old" one. I managed to successfully backup my SMSes, but when I restored them, each of them was restored twice, and as I never delete messages I send and receive, deleting all the duplicates one by one would take about two eternities. Oh and of course I had to reinstall all my apps and games and lost all the topscores I spent ages making.
Anyway, what I want to say is that while backing up all the data could make problems to an ordinary user, I'm sure that there are some gurus that handle this with no problems, so..could any of them possibly write a tutorial on backing up all the data from important contacts to not-so-importnant-but-still-desired game scores? I know that what I'm asking for is pretty comprehensive and would take some time, but I'm sure that many users would benefit from such article. Thanks in advance to anyone who reads this and decides to reply or help
Longlife
As a TOTALLY new user this month - I was surprised to find that I can't back up my total configuration to SD card (like I could with my old HP IPAQ)
Does this mean I have to re-install applications from a PC and re-sync from a PC each time the XDA EXEC 'hard resets' ?? (quite often at the moment)
Or has someone got a 'Back up to SD' tool that can restore after a 'Hard reset' ??
OK - I Just found SPB and Sprite - which one for a Novice ??
On a related subject , how can I transfer calendar and contacts from my IPAQ ?
eddieorz said:
As a TOTALLY new user this month - I was surprised to find that I can't back up my total configuration to SD card (like I could with my old HP IPAQ)
Does this mean I have to re-install applications from a PC and re-sync from a PC each time the XDA EXEC 'hard resets' ?? (quite often at the moment)
Or has someone got a 'Back up to SD' tool that can restore after a 'Hard reset' ??
OK - I Just found SPB and Sprite - which one for a Novice ??
On a related subject , how can I transfer calendar and contacts from my IPAQ ?
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Hi and welcome I use Sprite to backup, it has upgrade mode which allows you to restore after a ROM update, saving me countless hours installing apps and re-configuring my device. SBP only restores to the same ROM
lol remind me to use sprite backup after iv re installed and downloaded al my apps after updating to windows 6 doh
MrMiguel said:
Hi and welcome I use Sprite to backup, it has upgrade mode which allows you to restore after a ROM update, saving me countless hours installing apps and re-configuring my device. SBP only restores to the same ROM
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Sounds pretty good..I'll check it out for sure thx
Well so I downloaded some kind of trial version of Sprite backup for WM5 to try it out, but when I tried installing it, at about 30% of the installation process, it told me that "the app is not intended for this type of device" and the installation enden unsuccessfuly. Could someone please post a working CAB file for Sprite backup for WM5 trial? Thanx a lot, Longlife
Longlife said:
Well so I downloaded some kind of trial version of Sprite backup for WM5 to try it out, but when I tried installing it, at about 30% of the installation process, it told me that "the app is not intended for this type of device" and the installation enden unsuccessfuly. Could someone please post a working CAB file for Sprite backup for WM5 trial? Thanx a lot, Longlife
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Um theres no trial version.. What kind of device to you have? You most likely got the PPC version when ur device is actually an SP (smartphone) or vice versa
Please USE the forum search engine and READ http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=278037 - it answers ALL your questions.
MrMiguel said:
Um theres no trial version.. What kind of device to you have? You most likely got the PPC version when ur device is actually an SP (smartphone) or vice versa
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I have no idea what I downloaded then I tried to backtrack the site I got it from so I could read the decription again, but I didn't find it. Anyway, it was saying that it's for WM5 and as I have HTC Universal running WM5, I thought that is should work. Now, I got SKTools though, which are free and seem pretty cool (I just hope I will be able to restore the backup I made, once i need it )
Can I just point out something, if you use a backup utility, you should only restore that backup to the same ROM build you backed up from.
Otherwise, nearly all of the optimisations in the registry, and included application shortcuts will be lost if you decide to flash a new ROM and restore your backup.
You will be wasting your time reflashing if this is what you're doing.
AlanJC said:
Can I just point out something, if you use a backup utility, you should only restore that backup to the same ROM build you backed up from.
Otherwise, nearly all of the optimisations in the registry, and included application shortcuts will be lost if you decide to flash a new ROM and restore your backup.
You will be wasting your time reflashing if this is what you're doing.
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Umm, sorry if this question is stupid, but what should I use to backup my data when flashing a new ROM then? The idea of getting a new ROM BUT losing all my data doesn't sound very good to me. Thanks,
Longlife

Full Backup in 6.1?

I've been using SPB Backup sucessfully for some time and its been an essential for someone who like to play around with the system as much as I do. I've been trying to find a piece of backup software that will work to produce a full backup with 6.1 as SPBs doent seem to fully work, even with the help of PIMbackup.
Can anyone point me in the right direction?
Sprite backup
hairyman said:
I've been using SPB Backup sucessfully for some time and its been an essential for someone who like to play around with the system as much as I do. I've been trying to find a piece of backup software that will work to produce a full backup with 6.1 as SPBs doent seem to fully work, even with the help of PIMbackup.
Can anyone point me in the right direction?
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Have you tried sprite backup?
I think that spb backup is the best... but i must affirm that sprite backup offerts more options than spb software (you can restore your data after a rom update)
This is a link for spirites abckup:
http://rapidshare.com/files/108897792/Sprite_Backup_6.2.1_PPC.Regged.rar.html
can you restore your installed software after you flash a different rom
yes, all apps you've installed and your pim, all file in \My documents and registry... all.
guyvice said:
yes, all apps you've installed and your pim, all file in \My documents and registry... all.
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How can you do that and different roms have different settings, doesn't that effect current rom functionality
I tend to find if you restore a backup with spb backup using different roms but same wm06.1 versions what tends to happen is that you end up with the rom that was backed up... BUT because there may have been different apps cooked in you find errors cropping up with soft resets needed a lot and sometimes major lockups that require hard resets.. And thats my 2 cents... cheers
Same release only
ultramag69 said:
I tend to find if you restore a backup with spb backup using different roms but same wm06.1 versions what tends to happen is that you end up with the rom that was backed up... BUT because there may have been different apps cooked in you find errors cropping up with soft resets needed a lot and sometimes major lockups that require hard resets.. And thats my 2 cents... cheers
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This is the same with sprite backup also.
So, if you want a new rom then only backup contacts and messages as there is no point to backup complete OS... Everything needs to be reinstalled anyway. these programs are just in case of events that require hard resets, no good to backup apps or anything...
ultramag69 said:
So, if you want a new rom then only backup contacts and messages as there is no point to backup complete OS... Everything needs to be reinstalled anyway. these programs are just in case of events that require hard resets, no good to backup apps or anything...
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I've you restore after a hard reset or a rom upgrade? what app have you used spb or sprite???
with spb if you do a hard reset you can restore all apps you installed and their settings, before your hard reset (but i've tested only with the same rom).
I use SPB Backup. I was saying that the full os backup is only good for HARD RESETS as it puts the complete os, registry settings and apps onto your hermes. If you reflash your os then restore your backup it overwrites the NEW os with the OLD os, however, because the new os probably doesn't have all the apps that the old os had cooked into it you get errors as the os cant find things it requires. Hope that cleared it up instead of smearing everything with mud....
UC roms
ultramag69 said:
I use SPB Backup. I was saying that the full os backup is only good for HARD RESETS as it puts the complete os, registry settings and apps onto your hermes. If you reflash your os then restore your backup it overwrites the NEW os with the OLD os, however, because the new os probably doesn't have all the apps that the old os had cooked into it you get errors as the os cant find things it requires. Hope that cleared it up instead of smearing everything with mud....
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Its also make you have issue with the new now like freezing up and etc. Its just not worth the headache. Look in UC roms it is very little work to reinstall your app. Do a search for UC roms and read up on it. I'm tell is sweet I just did it for the first time it works like a charm.

after a ROM flash?

What is the easiest way to get all of my settings contacts and e-mail settings back on my phone after I do a Rom upgrade?
use a backup utility before you re flash
Will a back up remember all the programs and contacts and mail settings?
I'm by no means an expert, but it was my impression that it was not a good idea to restore a backup onto a new rom. Things are not necesarily in the same place and it can cause problems. That being said i don't really know of any solutions for you.
Haven't tried it yet, but the new Spb Backup v2.0 will restore data between upgrades, don't know about each setting though. On the other hand, if it saves all registry settings and certain files (i.e. ".ini") then everything should be the same.
if you're installing another ROM, you'll do best by reinstalling all your programs. this will ensure that the programs work with the newly installed ROM. i use MS Outlook to backup contacts... backing up email settings depends on what you use for email; if you're using a POP3 account, i suggest you reenter them.... in my opinion, using backup software to reinstall your programs, settings, etc., is risky and may cause unexpected issues. good luck!
cortez.i said:
if you're installing another ROM, you'll do best by reinstalling all your programs. this will ensure that the programs work with the newly installed ROM. i use MS Outlook to backup contacts... backing up email settings depends on what you use for email; if you're using a POP3 account, i suggest you reenter them.... in my opinion, using backup software to reinstall your programs, settings, etc., is risky and may cause unexpected issues. good luck!
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THANK YOU CORTEZ!!! See I am totally new at this and its a damn good thing I dident listen to people that think they know what they are talking about.
It's outlook that i am useing. Last time I had to call me network administrator from the offi ce to get my e-mail running again. How can I save those settings?
TheChampJT said:
Haven't tried it yet, but the new Spb Backup v2.0 will restore data between upgrades, don't know about each setting though. On the other hand, if it saves all registry settings and certain files (i.e. ".ini") then everything should be the same.
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Spb Backup has been incredibly buggy for me on my Telus Touch... does it work well for anyone else?
It freezes unless I do this: back up my documents only, turn off the option to create an exe and don't use encryption.
spb back up and ROM upgrade
so,on the telus touch,have you tried the rom upgrade and used spb backup to restore?
TheChampJT said:
Haven't tried it yet, but the new Spb Backup v2.0 will restore data between upgrades, don't know about each setting though. On the other hand, if it saves all registry settings and certain files (i.e. ".ini") then everything should be the same.
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Alright, I've been able to use Spb Backup now, and it is great! You can restore on a different ROM or device!
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this may sound dumb,but ive never used spb backup(ive just downloaded it) do you install to device ,or to storage card.If installed to device,after rom update,i would need to reinstall then do a restore,correct?
imradar said:
this may sound dumb,but ive never used spb backup(ive just downloaded it) do you install to device ,or to storage card.If installed to device,after rom update,i would need to reinstall then do a restore,correct?
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Not dumb, there are always questions when you install new software. But, this is another great feature of Spb Backup, it creates self-extracting restore files, with an option to create a copy of the software as well. So install it to your main memory, and have the files kept on your card. Whenever you need to restore, just run the file, you don't even need the app installed. Also includes a desktop sync app.
Rom update
Thanks for the speedy reply,I'm just looking now for any issues doing Rom update with vista 64(Telus tech said there should be no problem,but I've yet to get the same response twice from them)Ok i hope this new update is worth the sweat!
imradar said:
Thanks for the speedy reply,I'm just looking now for any issues doing Rom update with vista 64(Telus tech said there should be no problem,but I've yet to get the same response twice from them)Ok i hope this new update is worth the sweat!
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No prob, almost forgot to mention, after restoring the data, your PC will recognize it as it did before. I really like this feature, thought all my data was going to be duplicated.

What software do you use to back up your device before a flash?

I've spent a little time adding a few apps to my current Schaps reflash, but I'm about to flash again with CRC's latest 6.1 build as there's a few lingering problems with Schaps' WM6 rom.
I backed up my data (or at least I thought I did) before flashing the first time with SPB Backup, but it didn't save my text messages.
If I decide to revert to the previous ROM, I'd love to be able to just restore it back to exactly how it was - if SPB Backup doesn't actually save all of the PIM data (including SMSes etc), what's the best backup software for our phones which can save an entire "state" of a device to rollback to?
PIMBackup seems to get everything except attachments to MMS messages.
Ah, completely forgotten about PIMBackup! I gave Sprite Backup a go this time around, I remember I tried PIMBackup out many moons ago when it first came out... But as I wasn't flashing different ROMs back then I didn't really have a use for it
is PIMBackup your personal preference?
I like SPB Backup 2. Backs up everything. Not free though....
PimBackup
I use PIMbackup 2.8 its about as good as it gets...
I use PIMBackup 2.8, it fits me and it's free
Using PIMBackup 2.8, too. Free and easy to use.
Agreed, PIM Backup and UC ROMs do it for me.
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I like SPB Backup 2. Backs up everything. Not free though....
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I have that, I've just used it today because I'm having charging problems with my phone...well that's a different story.
When the backing up process finished it said that there were problems, that there was something in my windows folder could not be read it's .dll file.
I haven't tried the back up file yet since I'm still changing it to a stock rom, I'll use it after I've flashed it with josh's m2d rom again. Hopefully it did back up everything.
SPB backup 2...
....used it several times in the last couple of days...and nothing lost
Including text messages. Makes it easy to downgrade because does entire system restore after flashing to old ROM.
BAck to Square 1 after a test with just a few clicks....very cool.
gypsygirl13, I tend to find it has "several problems while backing up" but that nothing is lost. It may be that it was designed to work on WM06/6.1 and here I am using it for 6.5. Had the same teething problems with SPB Backup when 6.1 came out. However, backup 2 seems to not die like backup did. Never had trouble where I lost info (unlike SPB Backup).
I find its always the windows\oem\msvcr80.dll that gets stuffed up but never have problems when restored.
Cheers...
for large backups (like ghost images) i use SPB backup 2- one main advantage is that it create a standalone self extract EXE file and backup EVERYTHING including SD.
for call logs\contacts\etc. - i use PIMbackup 2.8 - fast free and super reliable.
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gypsygirl13, I tend to find it has "several problems while backing up" but that nothing is lost. It may be that it was designed to work on WM06/6.1 and here I am using it for 6.5. Had the same teething problems with SPB Backup when 6.1 came out. However, backup 2 seems to not die like backup did. Never had trouble where I lost info (unlike SPB Backup).
I find its always the windows\oem\msvcr80.dll that gets stuffed up but never have problems when restored.
Cheers...
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Wow you're right, everything was restored even my fonts (I'm using Setting++). Now I don't have to worry when I need to hard reset my phone. (^_^)
having a lot of bugs after restoring 6.1 backup using spb backup 2.0.
I recommend using sktools - it can restore anything except messages.
SPB & PIM
Im using SPB and PIM back-up for assurance. SPB if im only using same ROM no problem with all the settings that I made previously. PIM if SPB will not be installed for some ROM but later I found out that I could restore my SPB back up even though i havent installed it yet but the problem will be back up your file for some ROM if SPB will not be installed.
mountainmark
I have a lot of bugs with spb pocket plus 4 after restore backup created by spb backup.
Version 2 was very good for wm06 but I don't believe it liked the wm6.1 or 6.5. Error messages displayed but no problems. Backups always work fine.
obaz said:
mountainmark
I have a lot of bugs with spb pocket plus 4 after restore backup created by spb backup.
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what bugs are you experiencing mate? currently im using SPB in my wm6.1 created by kareem
mountainmark
on today screen appears scroll, and do not want go away. spb + today can`t work with "show on top" options enabled.
other software works sometime strange.
The past Year im using PIM Backup its great to backup all ot my pim data, but after i tried tai_sw wm6.5 evil and downgrade to josh V15 color3g, starbase64 or any of M2D roms. the touchflo cant start.
Theres no problem after flashing but when itried to restore using PIMbackup the thouch flo wont start i dont know why... it never hapend before.
ive tried hard reset soft reset it doesnt work the touchflo always stop functioning afetr i restore my pim. any clues??
if it because wm6.5 i dont hav problem with josh wm 6.5.
well ill try SPB backup2 lets see how it goes.

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