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Just got my Touch Pro II... here's my problem, perhaps you can help...
1. Even though bluetooth is advertise in the specs, it does NOT HAVE VOICE COMMAND... you'll have to buy that software separately...
2. WILL NOT RUN ON 3G NETWORK... I could almost live with the first faux pas... but not running on 3G is a deal breaker!!! Youtube stuttered... CNN was horrible...I even downloaded SkyFire... still no help. Called HTC, he said the Taiwanesse phone was not designed for this market. He said the Rom will not accomodate this 3G network.... I'm sending the damn thing back and wait on ATT version... AM I MAKING A MISTAKE? Please answer before I box it up... Len
I am sure I read here somewhere, that the non US versions don't support 3G. You may want to read some other threads to verify yourself though.
Lenstar said:
2. WILL NOT RUN ON 3G NETWORK... I could almost live with the first faux pas... but not running on 3G is a deal breaker!!! Youtube stuttered... CNN was horrible...I even downloaded SkyFire... still no help. Called HTC, he said the Taiwanesse phone was not designed for this market. He said the Rom will not accomodate this 3G network.... I'm sending the damn thing back and wait on ATT version... AM I MAKING A MISTAKE? Please answer before I box it up... Len
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Are you blind or just being lazy to read?? Posts of european version of TP2 is not compatible w/ AT&T 3G is all over here (it's even listed on HTC official website). Who could you blame if you are not doing research before you purchase???
did you read anything about this phone before buying it?
Can he actually read?
ok ok that was a lame one ..
but yes, you should do research about these things before buying it.
for the xperia as example they have an Xi and an Xa a for US and i for europe.
Lenstar said:
Just got my Touch Pro II... here's my problem, perhaps you can help...
1. Even though bluetooth is advertise in the specs, it does NOT HAVE VOICE COMMAND... you'll have to buy that software separately...
2. WILL NOT RUN ON 3G NETWORK... I could almost live with the first faux pas... but not running on 3G is a deal breaker!!! Youtube stuttered... CNN was horrible...I even downloaded SkyFire... still no help. Called HTC, he said the Taiwanesse phone was not designed for this market. He said the Rom will not accomodate this 3G network.... I'm sending the damn thing back and wait on ATT version... AM I MAKING A MISTAKE? Please answer before I box it up... Len
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Yes, you made a mistake.......by even breathing all day today !!!
You seem the type to buy a car from the U.K and ship it to the U.S and then complain that the steering wheel is on the wrong side of the car.
are you kidding me?! where have you been the past few months? its been stated multiple times in this forum that th euro version doesn't run US 3G. and why would you buy a phone without researching it first? if you knew the US 3G bands and compared them to what the euro TP2 uses, then you would have known. and its not the ROM that doesn't support it. its the hardware on the phone. people who don't read and search and do research annoy the s*** out of me.
You don't just buy a phone because it looks cool.
So you are an American then I will swap you my X1a (works with ATT 3G), including original Box, including extra 3600 extended mugen battery, and Samsung SCH-I760 for your phone.
poetryrocksalot said:
You don't just buy a phone because it looks cool.
So you are an American then I will swap you my X1a (works with ATT 3G), including original Box, including extra 3600 extended mugen battery, and Samsung SCH-I760 for your phone.
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haha sounds like a good deal!!!
Lenstar said:
1. Even though bluetooth is advertise in the specs, it does NOT HAVE VOICE COMMAND... you'll have to buy that software separately...
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I wrongly presumed that pretty much anybody buying a TP2 would know how bluetooth works... I really had to laugh at this one, sorry about that.
How can you think that 'bluetooth' reads 'voice command'. Bluetooth just means bluetooth, nothing more, nothing less, just bluetooth.
It's like buying a car advertised as a manual gearbox (stick shift) and then complaining "where's the twin turbo and NOS!?"
LordLugard said:
Yes, you made a mistake.......by even breathing all day today !!!
You seem the type to buy a car from the U.K and ship it to the U.S and then complain that the steering wheel is on the wrong side of the car.
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No no, the steering wheel is on the "RIGHT" side of the car
I have TP2 for the US and it works fine.
JR1977 said:
I have TP2 for the US and it works fine.
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yeah, but you do not have 3G though.
if the European TP2 could run on 3G here in the states i would already have one.
people don't realize that EDGE data really isn't THAT bad. I've been using it for a couple of days just to see how slow it really is, and it's actually pretty fast. sure, it's not as fast as 3G, but it's decent. and besides, an unlocked TP2 still has Wi-Fi capability, and in most cases Wi-Fi is faster than 3G. if I had the money, I'd buy the unlocked version and save myself the stress of waiting for it to come out for ATT
EDGE is fine for US networks compared to the overcrowded WCDMA that AT&T is currently touting. They need a major upgrade at some point. Most iPhone users have been getting dropped down to EDGE speeds without realizing it since they don't ever check their bandwidth. Same thing happens with most WM users in the US. On a good day, you'll get 1.2Mbps but on a bad day you'll end up with 60kbps T_T. In any case, the US should come out of the CDMA stoneage and get on the same good networks like the rest of the world. It's funny but I get higher speed everywhere else in the world except in the US. Consistency is key.
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people don't realize that EDGE data really isn't THAT bad. I've been using it for a couple of days just to see how slow it really is, and it's actually pretty fast. sure, it's not as fast as 3G, but it's decent. and besides, an unlocked TP2 still has Wi-Fi capability, and in most cases Wi-Fi is faster than 3G. if I had the money, I'd buy the unlocked version and save myself the stress of waiting for it to come out for ATT
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I agree. I've had 3G on my Xperia and my Tilt and I can't say i'm dying cause on edge. With push pages it helps a lot. I know that even after having it for a while i would still buy it again and recommend it to anyone even on edge.
Lenstar said:
Just got my Touch Pro II... here's my problem, perhaps you can help...
1. Even though bluetooth is advertise in the specs, it does NOT HAVE VOICE COMMAND... you'll have to buy that software separately...
2. WILL NOT RUN ON 3G NETWORK... I could almost live with the first faux pas... but not running on 3G is a deal breaker!!! Youtube stuttered... CNN was horrible...I even downloaded SkyFire... still no help. Called HTC, he said the Taiwanesse phone was not designed for this market. He said the Rom will not accomodate this 3G network.... I'm sending the damn thing back and wait on ATT version... AM I MAKING A MISTAKE? Please answer before I box it up... Len
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Words escape me.... but there had to be a first, but congratulations Lenstar, you are the first..
On a serious note.. have you tried switching to the 2100 WCDMA frequency?
Not totally sure of the options on the TP2, but i believe under the network settings there should be an option to scan for a different network.
The Taiwanese HTC web site states that the Taiwanese version of the handset is built for European and Asian 3G networks running at 900 and 2,100 MHz.
...not to mention the sorry battery life that 3g get you even if it were fast all the time i would struggle with keeping it on because ei use my tp2 all the time for work and pleasure and i would have to charge it twice a day if i used 3g
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people don't realize that EDGE data really isn't THAT bad. I've been using it for a couple of days just to see how slow it really is, and it's actually pretty fast. sure, it's not as fast as 3G, but it's decent. and besides, an unlocked TP2 still has Wi-Fi capability, and in most cases Wi-Fi is faster than 3G. if I had the money, I'd buy the unlocked version and save myself the stress of waiting for it to come out for ATT
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I 2nd that
I currently have the Tilt 2 by AT&T, and is currently thinking about switching to the Touch Pro 2 by Verizon. Why am I falling for the hype about Verizon having the largest 3G network, because if I'm driving on the highway, I like to stream video, but the network switches to EDGE unless I'm in a Metropolitan area.
I like the fact the Tilt 2 has 6.5, but the Touch Pro 2 only has 6.1. I also like the Xpressmail by AT&T, does Verizon has something similar. The PTT button also comes in handy, but not for PTT.
I've also heard that Verizon's network is faster due to fact that AT&T has so many Iphone users hogging the network.
Any opinions?
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I currently have the Tilt 2 by AT&T, and is currently thinking about switching to the Touch Pro 2 by Verizon. Why am I falling for the hype about Verizon having the largest 3G network, because if I'm driving on the highway, I like to stream video, but the network switches to EDGE unless I'm in a Metropolitan area.
I like the fact the Tilt 2 has 6.5, but the Touch Pro 2 only has 6.1. I also like the Xpressmail by AT&T, does Verizon has something similar. The PTT button also comes in handy, but not for PTT.
I've also heard that Verizon's network is faster due to fact that AT&T has so many Iphone users hogging the network.
Any opinions?
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Here's my opinion, having a Touch Pro2 with Verizon. First of all, the ONLY thing I heard you mention in the pro column for the Tilt 2 is 6.5, which obviously Verizon will have via official ROM (I personally would be surprised if it's not out within 30 days) or cooked ROM. So, that almost becomes irrelevant. So, you can only really compare hardware and network. I think it's obvious that Verizon's TP2 wins in hardware with the 3.5mm jack and far superior (IMO) keyboard with dedicated number row. I can think of a single hardware advantage of the Tilt 2. Ok, so then network. I don't know where you live, but where I live AT&T is virtually useless compared to Verizon. Check the network maps in your area, or do the whole trial period and find out for yourself.
On sidenote into the future, I personally think Verizon's LTE rollout will be much faster than AT&T, so that is something to consider as well.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550431&highlight=rhodium
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550431&highlight=rhodium
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I personally think that thread is irrelevant because it was created prior to Touch Pro2 availability in the US (well, t-mobile launched 2 days prior, but they don't count).
I mean seriously, the poll was created 3 weeks before Sprint's TP2 availability, 4 weeks prior to Verizon, and more than 8 weeks before the Tilt 2 was available.
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Just to know what is members preferences when choosing a model of (Rhodium) TP2.
Mods please give your opinions
I tried both and decided to stay with the Tilt2. I get faster data speeds on the Tilt2 here in Minneapolis, the voice quality on the Tilt2 seems better as well and you can be on a call and surf the web at the same time when you are in 3G. There are also numerous reports over at ppcgeeks.com of the Verizon TP2 getting stuck in 1X, although that only happened to me once and a soft reset fixed that. Lastly, the hardware keys on the front of the Tilt2 are much easier to push in than on the Verizon, somewhat weird.
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I currently have the Tilt 2 by AT&T, and is currently thinking about switching to the Touch Pro 2 by Verizon. Why am I falling for the hype about Verizon having the largest 3G network, because if I'm driving on the highway, I like to stream video, but the network switches to EDGE unless I'm in a Metropolitan area.
I like the fact the Tilt 2 has 6.5, but the Touch Pro 2 only has 6.1. I also like the Xpressmail by AT&T, does Verizon has something similar. The PTT button also comes in handy, but not for PTT.
I've also heard that Verizon's network is faster due to fact that AT&T has so many Iphone users hogging the network.
Any opinions?
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I've also heard that Verizon's network is faster due to fact that AT&T has so many Iphone users hogging the network.
^^^ I read about that in the newspaper...
I enable cellular data, and there is like a 5% chance it will ever work. The rest 95% times I have to restart my phone for it to work. Sometimes its working fine and then all of a sudden it stop, and again I have to restart my phone.
P.S my data connection is perfectly fine. No problems there.
Not seeing this on my phone and the DVP is notorious for some of its issues. So, maybe it's not WP7, just your phone.
Happens to me quite a bit. It just refuses to load over 3G. H and G work although the later is far too slow
I don't have any connection issues either. It's most definitely your phone. Maybe you could try and install another radio?
What is your carrier?
I have the same problem on my Omnia 7. It works for a week, and then it doesn't for a couple of hours. So frustrating! It's not branded, and I've talked to my carrier, but they cannot find any problems at their end.
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Reception is poor on the HD7 as well, compared to the Vibrant. Factorably poor to the point that anyone who is buying the phone primarily for a phone would pass up the HD7 for the Vibrant due to Reception/Call Quality/Speakerphone quality disparity between the two.
I think Microsoft needs to update the driver, to strengthen the radio (probably set rather weak to conserve battery).
Connection is awesome on my Mozart, both for voice and data. I get stable HSDPA with good speeds at home where the iPhone (bad benchmark, but still) only got Edge, and HD2 constantly switches from 3G to GSM. I talk easily in my office elevator where even most dumbphones fail.
Guess it depends on many factors including the combination of device and operator. Generally, coverage here is better than in most places in the US, judging by my personal (although limited) experience and what I'm reading in tech blogs.
In truth, not decided 100% on my next phone. But I like the look of this one.
The phone I want does not really exist (there is always something newer, better, and when thats there, I want something else). Ideally now I want a Galaxy with a keyboard. Most keyboard phones are not high spec - Samsung Captivate Glide is close, as is the Droid 4, so am looking at something like this and give up on a keyboard.
Picking a phone is subjective and a personal choice. I dont care about ICS much, I care more about having a MicroSD. I care about removing bloat, and upgrading outside of LG software updates (or any carrier)
Q1) Where to get it from - cell2get.com? Needs to be unlocked for the UK.
Q2) Will there be any dev on this phone?
My impression is, LG have good hardware, poor rep and not good software/too much bloat. A lot of phones have that, some are worse than others. I don't expect LG to fix it. XDA-developers is a power house and make phones usable. If I had the skills/experience/time, I would do it myself but I bow out to others.
i also think the look is underrated on this guy... but a main selling point in the US is that it's pretty much the highest spec ATT phone w/ LTE, so without that overseas, it wouldn't be worth the price.
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i also think the look is underrated on this guy... but a main selling point in the US is that it's pretty much the highest spec ATT phone w/ LTE, so without that overseas, it wouldn't be worth the price.
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LTE is on trial here in London, but not out for everyone until 2012, so its quite a bit of time.
There is the Galaxy Nexus, but there is not much mobile choice over here, not with 720p screen.
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LTE is on trial here in London, but not out for everyone until 2012, so its quite a bit of time.
There is the Galaxy Nexus, but there is not much mobile choice over here, not with 720p screen.
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is it the same LTE frequency?? If so then i'd say go for it. The only LTE phone w/ 720p.. those were the exact same features i went after..
Dev wise, it all depends if the bootloader is locked or not (i have no clue)
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is it the same LTE frequency?? If so then i'd say go for it. The only LTE phone w/ 720p.. those were the exact same features i went after..
Dev wise, it all depends if the bootloader is locked or not (i have no clue)
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Probably not the same band for LTE. O2 is trying 2600 in a few spots. There is talk of 800 when the its free. LTE 700 is what the phone is set at so I doubt it will work.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s_ii_hd_lte-4198.php
this is the phone that you probably wanna get...
dalamchops said:
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s_ii_hd_lte-4198.php
this is the phone that you probably wanna get...
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Nice! Will take a look and find out more...
wi fi coverage lu6200
hello everybody , i bought 2 second hand lu6200 phones here in vietnam but their wifi coverage is awful , i can connect to wifi networks with an old phone and the
lu6200 just doesn't pick up the network, i installed an app to measure the db's and in the lu6200 it gets always atleast less 6 to 10 db's ,
first i thought that it was something wrong with the hardware but i switched phones in the store and have the same problem .-( ,
now i just don't know what to do , it's weird that a phone like this one has such a bad wifi coverage .... , i have tested a lot of roms also and
wifi always hard to connect with weak signals.... anyone knows something about this?????
thanks.
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h69pc said:
hello everybody , i bought 2 second hand lu6200 phones here in vietnam but their wifi coverage is awful , i can connect to wifi networks with an old phone and the
lu6200 just doesn't pick up the network, i installed an app to measure the db's and in the lu6200 it gets always atleast less 6 to 10 db's ,
first i thought that it was something wrong with the hardware but i switched phones in the store and have the same problem .-( ,
now i just don't know what to do , it's weird that a phone like this one has such a bad wifi coverage .... , i have tested a lot of roms also and
wifi always hard to connect with weak signals.... anyone knows something about this?????
thanks.
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nobody with these problems
I have recently upgraded from an old Moto Droid 2 to the Gnex on Verizon. I wanted to upgrade before the new cut went into effect so I could retain my unlimited data. I stream all my music from a music server at home, and stream netflix, and hulu plus alot as well. I have had the phone for about 5 days, and have unlocked, and roote dit but have left the Vanilla 4.0.2 as is for now so I could get a solid baseline for battery life and radio performance before tweaking anything in the future.
Today was the fist time I had to commute to and from work with the phone, and I am very upset with the coverage I got. I take the train and am constantly switching cell towers, and usually experiance spoty coverage because of it, however when using my Droid2 on 3g it was still good enough to stream music throughout my commute.
I have noticed that the majority of the time, the phone shows absolutely no data connection now, and when it does connect it never goes above 1 bar. How is this possible when the Droid 2 had a better signal? I have read that some people get "lemons" and that the Gnex has been known to have radio issues, I apologize in advance if I am spamming the forum, but I wanted to get some feedback from some of the advanced Gnex owners here.
IS this normal? How can I test my phone's radio or know if I have a "lemon". IS this scenario easily remedied through flashing a radio? I still have 11 days to test it out, if I want to return the phone to Verizon.
As much as I really wanted to have a Nexus device, I won't pay for a smartphone that can't maintain a data connection. According to Verizon's coverage maps, much of my commute is LTE territory but yet I can not even maintain a 3g connection.
FWIW, the only thing I have done thus far was toggled the radio to CDMA only in attempts to get a data connection, it did seem to help out, but overall it seemed that my connection was slower than when I was using my Droid2. I will try getting speedtests when I can to compare to ones from my Droid 2 as well, not sure what else to do.
If you need LTE, your best bet is to upgrade to 4.0.4 radios and see if that helps. If it doesn't, return the phone to 4.0.2 and exchange it for a new one.
You have a lemon if the data connection drops out completely, which is what it sounds like it is doing.
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I find that enabling 'Use only 2G networks' helps out with most signal issues, depending on where I am. For example, in central London I leave the option unchecked (ie, use all networks), and the speeds are great. Then when i leave London and the faster networks dissipate, the speeds decrease to little or no cover. Then I enable the 2G only option and streaming/reception is back to good. This is in the UK on GSM though...
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I find that enabling 'Use only 2G networks' helps out with most signal issues, depending on where I am. For example, in central London I leave the option unchecked (ie, use all networks), and the speeds are great. Then when i leave London and the faster networks dissipate, the speeds decrease to little or no cover. Then I enable the 2G only option and streaming/reception is back to good. This is in the UK on GSM though...
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The Verizon version doesn't have this feature.
I will try my commute home using only female no Ltd and see if any data connections can be made and will keep reading up on radios to flash this week
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Well I must say there was a noticeable difference with the phone on CDMA only, so I am truly hoping I did not get a lemon! I also read this interesting thread here which calmed my nerves:
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/25921-this-is-why-your-verizon-nexus-signal-sucks/
Often times, it is easy to jump to conclusions based on hunches, and I compared data fron a few speedtests while I was tethering on #g and they were indeed comparible to my previous phone.
I also went ahead and manually flashed the IMM76K Android 4.0.4 update before I got it OTA, I have read a few people's comments about 4.0.4 having better LTE performance, SO I will continue to try it out some more. I guess next stop is trying various radios/kernels, but I am a bit rusty. I havent done anything besides a one stop custom rom, since my HTC Dream days.
I have noticed a great improvement with 4.0.4 update.. actually in most cases, LTE has been more consistent than 3g... the handoff between the two seems to be the problem still, once it transitions from 4g to 3g it often craps out, but nothing an airplane mode toggle doesn't fix.
Does any one by chance know if it is possible to try mixing LTE/CDMA radios?