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1-2-3 Simplest way to upgrade Hermes to WM6

Dear Friends,Its been a while that I asked amost everyone, on all forums, all moderators, senior members about the simple stepwise method to upgrade Hermes to Wm6 but unfortunately the forums talk of hifi things and all the information is very disorganised. Mostly the new people are getting confused like I was. Anyways, I hope the community will realize it.
SIMPLE STEPS TO UPGRADE (forget everything)
* Install hard SPL V7
* Get the official ROM from HTC or DOPOD (avaialble on XDA-DEVELOPERS also) and just run it.
You don't need to EXTRACT the NBK or use the CUSTOM ROM or Flash OS only. In contradicition to what is said on the forums, the official very nicely upgrades radio etc...everything including EXTrom.
Any problems ... please write back.
I have tried all HTC and DOPOD ROMS and they works fine.
Dont use custom roms they all are leaky. When installed they have around 30 MB free program memory but leave it for some time and then it is only 2-3 MB without any new activity. So, you will be resetting every 8-9 hours.
Regards,
Alber

OEM roms are nice - if you like a canned setup loaded with bloat from the manufacturers that may or may not perform any better - usually worse - than a cooked rom.
If you're uncomfortable with shifting into high gear or moving into the fast lane to pass someone - then an OEM rom is perfect.
I hardly leave the fast lane personally

mattk_r said:
OEM roms are nice - if you like a canned setup loaded with bloat from the manufacturers that may or may not perform any better - usually worse - than a cooked rom.
If you're uncomfortable with shifting into high gear or moving into the fast lane to pass someone - then an OEM rom is perfect.
I hardly leave the fast lane personally
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what good are fast lanes if you are changing tyres every 8-9 hours ????/!!!!!!1

alber786 said:
what good are fast lanes if you are changing tyres every 8-9 hours ????/!!!!!!1
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Where did you get this kind of information?
Mine runs perfectly on Cyphol latest release for days on end.....and also very, very fast!

alber786 said:
Dear Friends,Its been a while that I asked amost everyone, on all forums, all moderators, senior members about the simple stepwise method to upgrade Hermes to Wm6 but unfortunately the forums talk of hifi things and all the information is very disorganised. Mostly the new people are getting confused like I was. Anyways, I hope the community will realize it.
SIMPLE STEPS TO UPGRADE (forget everything)
* Install hard SPL V7
* Get the official ROM from HTC or DOPOD (avaialble on XDA-DEVELOPERS also) and just run it.
You don't need to EXTRACT the NBK or use the CUSTOM ROM or Flash OS only. In contradicition to what is said on the forums, the official very nicely upgrades radio etc...everything including EXTrom.
Any problems ... please write back.
I have tried all HTC and DOPOD ROMS and they works fine.
Dont use custom roms they all are leaky. When installed they have around 30 MB free program memory but leave it for some time and then it is only 2-3 MB without any new activity. So, you will be resetting every 8-9 hours.
Regards,
Alber
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Just for my understanding:
If you do the steps above and simply run the shipped .exe file from the official release after flashing to Hard SPL V7 the HardSPL will be overridden with the one from the official release, right?
So i have to flash HardSPL again if i want to flash an other (may be cooked) rom.
Can you clarify this for me?
Thanks in advance,
Hype

hellejoep said:
Where did you get this kind of information?
Mine runs perfectly on Cyphol latest release for days on end.....and also very, very fast!
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If you see even at the standby and no applications launched you will find the available memory dips. try to keep it alive and see what is the maximum uptime.

The Black X RC is VERY stable for me, I now go several days without a reset. On the official AT&T rom, I'd be lucky to go a day without a reset.

pkley said:
The Black X RC is VERY stable for me, I now go several days without a reset. On the official AT&T rom, I'd be lucky to go a day without a reset.
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Did you check the memory? where can I get this and how many additional application do you use ?

Rom for HTC 8525

I just updated my at&t 8525 and well i got the i guess official rom its kinda laggy on my phone which is alright but ive uploaded some programs on it and i got my sms threaded which im loving just wondering what would be a good rom for it and would it be the same affect as me updating the official one so i dont brick my phone and mess it up cause there too much to be getting a new one thanks in advance for any help

If you want one that is simple, safe, and made for at&t, you should go with VP3Gs last rom. Its nice, and stable.

Holy Repeat Noob thread openers batman
Jeez how many of these threads are we gonna see? Someone should count them and keep track for the noobs!

Ya, and its always people with the 8525 lol.
I would use Binkys or MRH if I were you, thats what I use on my 8525. But in reality with SPB Mobile Shell you can use almost any ROM which is what im doing now.

jblakk said:
If you want one that is simple, safe, and made for at&t, you should go with VP3Gs last rom. Its nice, and stable.
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I ran his roms for about a year.
While they are VERY good roms, if you're up for manually inputting Data, SMS settins, and tweaking a few other things, the new 6.1 roms FLY.
I am using this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=388523
And it is damn fast.

sorry
yes guys i am a noob i just would like to get my 8525 goin good for me im sorry for the stupid noob ? but i just feel that the official rom does not perform that great. can anyone tell me where to download these roms at

We were all noobs at one time. You need to read this first:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299462
It explains everything you need to know to flash ROM's. Then you will need to flash many different ROM's and see which one has what you want. No ROM is the same, and everybody wants something a little different.

Hmmm
GldRush98 said:
I ran his roms for about a year.
While they are VERY good roms, if you're up for manually inputting Data, SMS settins, and tweaking a few other things, the new 6.1 roms FLY.
I am using this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=388523
And it is damn fast.
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I havent tried the new ROM that he just posted but I flashed his rom on the 17th of June and it was SLOOOOW... I mean really slow - boot menu etc and it also sucked the battery down fast w.o WIFI and BT on. Really buggy for me. So, I switched back to a Schaps win 6.0 Rom - stable for now. But if you say this new one works pretty good and is stable, I will give it another shot.
Also, I cannot find out how to fix my QUERTY effin Keyboard. The blue buttons are all effed up - i.e. @ is ? etc... I have seen people talk about this encounter, but I do not know how to fix it. Has this happened to you at all? If so, do you know how to fix it?

so if i get one of these other roms i gotta flash it is there not any already on here made for the 8525 thats already flashed for cingular i mean im not getting this

tombstone said:
I havent tried the new ROM that he just posted but I flashed his rom on the 17th of June and it was SLOOOOW... I mean really slow - boot menu etc and it also sucked the battery down fast w.o WIFI and BT on. Really buggy for me. So, I switched back to a Schaps win 6.0 Rom - stable for now. But if you say this new one works pretty good and is stable, I will give it another shot.
Also, I cannot find out how to fix my QUERTY effin Keyboard. The blue buttons are all effed up - i.e. @ is ? etc... I have seen people talk about this encounter, but I do not know how to fix it. Has this happened to you at all? If so, do you know how to fix it?
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I'm running his version in my signature and it is fantastic.
With his rom there is a utility that lets you change the keyboard settings. It's called Advanced Config or something like that.

joshkoss said:
Jeez how many of these threads are we gonna see? Someone should count them and keep track for the noobs!
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Everyone was a noob sometime .. does it mean we shouldnt help?
I cant talk for AT&T but I use CRC v11 .. very good
Remember most importantly step 1 is to use HARDSPL V7 this will prevent your mobile phone becomming a brick. You can find details about flashing and hardspl in MRVANX's sticky at the top of this forum.
Good luck .. become an expert and give back to the community.

GldRush98 said:
I'm running his version in my signature and it is fantastic.
With his rom there is a utility that lets you change the keyboard settings. It's called Advanced Config or something like that.
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Schaps advanced config .. search and you will find it v2.1.0.0

so is there any unofficial roms out there that are faster and stable then then official one that is already flashed i mean what do i have to do just explain it to me i gave up a iphone for this and its alot better but iw anna make it faster

Ok
Step 1 : Read Mrvanx guide on how to HARDSPL your phone (and do it)
Step 2 : Load CRC's V11 rom
Step 3 : Enjoy
You will have to read MRvanx post
You will have to read CRC's post
Its all there so no one will repeat it here for you.
Heres the Link to Mr Vanx to start you off
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299462
The CRC Thread and Rom are here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=387990
You do need to put in some effort.

Upgrading O2 XDA Ignito - Problems sorted

Sorry to bother you, I'm sure this info is somewhere (or if I understood it a bit better), but if someone could clear a few things up:
1) Have downloaded Hard-SPL 1.23, 1.34 and the latest version - is the newer better/more stable? Or I do have to use the one that matches the ROM I am flashing to?
2) If I want to do a cooked a ROM, will any of the versions of Hard-SPL listed above work for that too?
3) Is there an easy way to back up operator settings (internet, voice mail number etc?) Just got it so there's nothing else on it that needs backing up.
4) Offical ROMs are in .exe format, can I just install them on to my XDA?
Edit: Found the official ROMs, just required looking through several pages (sorry). Can anyone answer the other questions, especially how to back-up network settings.
For the mo I just want to get rid of the O2 branding.
Thanks for your time - have been a mod on several forums and I know you end up having to answer questions 20 times over.
Cheers,
Joe

Regarding Hard SPL, read here fully and carefully. It will tell you all you need to know.
With regards to ROMs, you could use the official ones but you will find AZTOR ROMs far superior. (AZTOR = Alpha Zero Tweaked Official ROM) or alternatively Shaks.P ROM in my signature which is set up for the UK. Both will automatically detect your network and use the correct settings and both are as stable as the original ROMs but with improved performance

I have a UK o2 xda ignito, and the only hard spl I have used is 1.93 from this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=400950
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=101134&d=1216793074
Most of the modded roms can be flashed with the included utilities. But most of the official 2.03 roms can only be flashed from internal storage.
Any info you need can be found with the search function, with a little time.
All the best.

joeearl13 said:
Sorry to bother you, I'm sure this info is somewhere (or if I understood it a bit better), but if someone could clear a few things up:
1) Have downloaded Hard-SPL 1.23, 1.34 and the latest version - is the newer better/more stable? Or I do have to use the one that matches the ROM I am flashing to?
2) If I want to do a cooked a ROM, will any of the versions of Hard-SPL listed above work for that too?
3) Is there an easy way to back up operator settings (internet, voice mail number etc?) Just got it so there's nothing else on it that needs backing up.
4) Offical ROMs are in .exe format, can I just install them on to my XDA?
Edit: Found the official ROMs, just required looking through several pages (sorry). Can anyone answer the other questions, especially how to back-up network settings.
Cheers,
Joe
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Responding To Questions:
1) It doesn't have to match your original SPL...if the one you have downloaded works then use it. Very few chefs recommend a specific Hard SPL with there ROM. But this is so rare.
2) if you want to flash a unsigned ROM then you need a developers edition Hards SPL.....or jocky's works as well....I personally use 1.93 so I recommend that one.
3) don't worry about backing up operators settings.....most of these roms come with a "Connection Setup" which allows you to select from a list of operators and it does everything for you. I also have a little app for this if your rom doesn't have this.

@Everyone: thanks for your help.
Will install the 1.93 Developers HSPL and see how that goes.
Can anyone recommend a ROM (don't want any visual tweaks)?
Thanks again

Asking such a question can close this thread .........
This is out of the respect of the chefs who work hard. Please refrain from this topic regarding best roms, etc.
Just try them out and read the threads.

band27 said:
Asking such a question can close this thread .........
This is out of the respect of the chefs who work hard. Please refrain from this topic regarding best roms, etc.
Just try them out and read the threads.
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I understand people have put a lot of hard work in and have taken a look at a few cooked ROMs, and fully intend to start cooking my own when (if) I have learned the skills.
However just got it and it has O2 branding, so i'd like to play with the original interface for a day or two before I start seeing what can really be done with the interface

Yeah, good idea, this will allow you to compare the true difference between a original and a cooked Rom. That is where one can begin to truly see how much better a cooked Rom is.

AZTOR version for UK?
Gonna try the AZTOR, looks like its got some solid improvements without affecting the UI, which version (WWE/GER) are using for the UK Mike?
Thanks again everyone, you've been a great help.

A mod can close this thread if you want now, got my problems sorted.
Thanks all.

joeearl13 said:
Gonna try the AZTOR, looks like its got some solid improvements without affecting the UI, which version (WWE/GER) are using for the UK Mike?
Thanks again everyone, you've been a great help.
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I always use WWE, have tried lots of roms, but my fall back roms are usually shaks or udk.
currently trying the 6.5 roms. Cloudyfa's beta2 has a very fast manilla.
You won't have much spare time now you have started flasshing

[REQUEST]Need New Version of TouchFlo 3D

Hello everybody ! I'm using HCT HD and Original ROM.Can I install new version of TouchFlO 3D?If can could you provide me a cab file for me?I try to download it for my phone but I when I install it it show nothing.
Thanks advance

you will have to flash a custom ROM, you can't just install a new version
you can read all about it here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505377
its not something to do lightly, but take your time, and learn what to do, and you should be ok

Flashing is easy take out sim and ur memory card put the flash file u want onto an 2Gb memory card name it BLACIMG.nbh, turn fone off reboot into bootloader, hold volume down and press power button and will ask u to press power button to flash ur fone. DONE!! EASY!!!
MAKE SURE BEFORE YOU DO THIS DO HSPL UR FONE WITH OLINX 1.56.

you cannot simply install touch flow 3d becuase a lot of the files used by it are in the ROM. this means that you cannot overwrite them without flashing a whole new ROM image, hence why you need to flash a new ROM to get an updated version of touch flow. Youll notice how it is often referred to as "manilla". this is simply its codename - they mean the same thing. Good luck

Yes thanks for all of your replies.Maybe I have to find custom rom for my phone.Could you give me some suggestions which rom is run smooth and fast for my HD?

Aboyhtc said:
Yes thanks for all of your replies.Maybe I have to find custom rom for my phone.Could you give me some suggestions which rom is run smooth and fast for my HD?
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Everyone will have different opinions on this one. There are many good chefs here and on other sites. My suggestion as always is to read up about the different roms. Read the threads which will give you a sense of whether there are any significant issues with the rom which will be a problem for you. Once you have decided which rom you want to try, follow the step by step guide (link in my signature) and flash. You can then try a few different ones yourself and decide which one best suits your need. People are going to give you their opinions which may or may not be what you are looking for.
This thread will now most likely be closed down as it calls for an opinion and could lead to huge debates about the relative merits of each rom. Only you can decide what suits your needs.

Yes thanks for your ur seggestions.

Aboyhtc said:
Yes thanks for your ur seggestions.
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Just do what i did and flash all of the popular ROMs and then choose which one you liked best. Alternatively, on the ROM developement forum, theres a benchmark thread (its a sticky, so itll be near the top). There you can see the best performing ROMs and may want to choose one of the best, if speed is a priority.

Tilt 2, can I get Manila 2.5?

Hay guys, let me just say im complete newb at all this phone stuff unforchunalty. I dont know anything about this stuff so im asking for your help please. Ok, i want to get the upgraded HTC tf3d on my AT&T titl 2. I'm sick of the blue AT&T blue. Is it possible to get Max Manila 2.5, (I think that whats it called) for my phone? I dont know how to dl it onto my phone, or aanything. So please if any of you guys can help id be very thankful. Note, I dont know how to unlock or flash my rom, I dont even know what that mean but i see them alot. Thank guys.

Welcome to forums
yes you can have Manila 2.5
Have a deep read here to learn how to flash:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550540
Then select the ROM of your preference on the Rhodium section
Read, Search, Respect and Emjoy!
Good luck,
And don't forget to vote for Rhodium!!

Hay thx orb3000!

Since you are newbi I recommend the Energy
To have most of the work done for you check out:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=562773
I am running NRGz 21855 Dec 31st Standard build and it is pretty sweet. A few bugs but it is still nice. NRG also puts out another TP2 ROM which is less than bleeding edge but more stable codenamed Pheonix. Also sense 2.8 (used to be called Manila) has recently been released for the Leo so we will see it baked into Roms including the above listed one very soon!

Omg kroniced thank you to for repling, Im having a hard time with this, there is a good chance im going to be asking for help. Thanks alot for the link man, I really mean it.

kroniced said:
Also sense 2.8 (used to be called Manila) has recently been released for the Leo so we will see it baked into Roms including the above listed one very soon!
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Wait, what?
As in, Touch Flo 3D 2.8? As in a new version over Sense UI 2.5, already found on Leo & custom roms for other devices?

Progress report lol, Ok ladys and gents here is where im at. Well sadly i dont get alot of time to work on this, only weekends mostly because of work and what not. kroniced send me this perfect really cool ROM on the link of this page, its just like Max Manila 2.5/2.8, its really cool. So im looking around to the pages on how to get it and im stuck at step one. For some reason it keeps giving me a fatal error when i try to back up my phone with Rhodium-HardSPL_V2_00R3. I read from the forums you need to back up before changing ROM's. I dident know that I thought it would be like changing the wall paper or theme of the phone. Sorry really noob at this. I need like a dumbies video of how to do this or some really easy way to understand how to do this please i beg you all lol. Sorry guys this is just giving me a hard time, im gonna try and do it by tonite. please all your feed back is very helpful to me and I thank you all for it, remeber I have the tilt 2. Thank you all, wish me luck! All help is appreshated very much!

theherofromdoom said:
Progress report lol, Ok ladys and gents here is where im at. Well sadly i dont get alot of time to work on this, only weekends mostly because of work and what not. kroniced send me this perfect really cool ROM on the link of this page, its just like Max Manila 2.5/2.8, its really cool. So im looking around to the pages on how to get it and im stuck at step one. For some reason it keeps giving me a fatal error when i try to back up my phone with Rhodium-HardSPL_V2_00R3. I read from the forums you need to back up before changing ROM's. I dident know that I thought it would be like changing the wall paper or theme of the phone. Sorry really noob at this. I need like a dumbies video of how to do this or some really easy way to understand how to do this please i beg you all lol. Sorry guys this is just giving me a hard time, im gonna try and do it by tonite. please all your feed back is very helpful to me and I thank you all for it, remeber I have the tilt 2. Thank you all, wish me luck! All help is appreshated very much!
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So what exactly happens when you run Rhodium-HardSPL_V2_00R3.EXE? Is it a connection error, a program error, a device error? If you have a Tilt2, you probably need to install this to your device before you run the executable. BTW, you're not backing up your device with HardSPL, you're replacing the stock, HTC bootloader with a patched bootloader, a process which you only need to do once. It's also not necessary to back up your device before flashing a new ROM, it's just recommended if you have important stuff saved to main memory, since you lose all the data on your device each time you flash. You will not lose data when installing HardSPL with this executable.

Hay thanks for reasponeding DaveTheTytnIIGuy, here is what the error seys, "ERROR
[246] Device not reasponding" -"The update utillity cannot get respones from your PDA phone. Please check that your USB cradle/cable is connected properly between the pc and your PDA phone. And also check your PDA phone."
Now my phone is connected, im possitive it synced as well. I dont know why is seys that. As far as anything I have on my phone just all my numbers, the rest are things like music witch i can put back on, but thats on my 8 gig memory card.
I down loaded the link named "this" to my comp. How do I get them on my phone, extraced them to my phone?? Not really sure how or what to do.

theherofromdoom said:
Hay thanks for reasponeding DaveTheTytnIIGuy, here is what the error seys, "ERROR
[246] Device not reasponding" -"The update utillity cannot get respones from your PDA phone. Please check that your USB cradle/cable is connected properly between the pc and your PDA phone. And also check your PDA phone."
Now my phone is connected, im possitive it synced as well. I dont know why is seys that. As far as anything I have on my phone just all my numbers, the rest are things like music witch i can put back on, but thats on my 8 gig memory card.
I down loaded the link named "this" to my comp. How do I get them on my phone, extraced them to my phone?? Not really sure how or what to do.
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A .cab is an installer, just like an EXE or MSI on a desktop computer. Don't uncompress it, just put the .cab file as is onto your device, disconnect your device from the computer, browse to wherever you put it with File Explorer Mobile, and open it. Install it to internal memory and you're done. Also, try disabling your Antivirus/Firewall and ensure you have Windows Mobile Device Center (Vista/7) or ActiveSync (XP and lower). And no offence, but you might want to hold off on flashing for a little while, at least until you get a bit more acquainted with Windows Mobile. I recommend that everyone who flashes their device at least understand the technical aspects, since that highly reduces chances of bricking as an end result.

DaveTheTyntIIGuy thank so much I did what u sed and i instolled it with no problems to my phone. You just helped me in a big way. Now I know how to download programes to my phone. So I think I have an idea how to do what i first came here to do. But your are rite 100%, I gotta get a understanding of this before I do anything so I dont screw up my phone. Thank you alot. So now that I downloaded the enablerapinew my phone is ready for when I decide to get a new interface on the phone like the Manila 2.5 / 2.8 / ext. ?

Get accustomed to you phone by doing the minor cabs and tweaks found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=524655
Most of this stuff is harmless and will get you use to using cabs and changing things on your phone.

theherofromdoom said:
DaveTheTyntIIGuy thank so much I did what u sed and i instolled it with no problems to my phone. You just helped me in a big way. Now I know how to download programes to my phone. So I think I have an idea how to do what i first came here to do. But your are rite 100%, I gotta get a understanding of this before I do anything so I dont screw up my phone. Thank you alot. So now that I downloaded the enablerapinew my phone is ready for when I decide to get a new interface on the phone like the Manila 2.5 / 2.8 / ext. ?
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No, that .cab enables RAPI (Remote API) on the Tilt2, which allows programs like the HardSPL unlocker, on the PC, to control the device to an extent, which it needs to do in order to flash HardSPL.

Hi, How can I get the actual version of manila running on my Tilt 2
Thanks

It's listed in this key in your registry:
Its HKLM\Software\Manila\Version

sirphunkee said:
It's listed in this key in your registry:
Its HKLM\Software\Manila\Version
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minor correction: HKLM\Software\HTC\Manila\Version
On the stock Tilt2, the version is 2.1.19183217.0
Note that this can also be seen by looking at the About section of the Settings tab in TF3D.

This is awsome DaveTheTytnIIGuy, the programe you sent me worked. I was suscussfully able to flash my HardSPL, with Rhodium-HardSPL_V2_00R3. Thank you. So now I'm up to the next step witch is finding a ROM.

Is it possible to get Manila without flashing a cooked rom or is manila a cooked rom? I guess what I am asking is Can you get Manila as a CAB file or do you have to flash it as a ROM?

raveztaylor said:
Is it possible to get Manila without flashing a cooked rom or is manila a cooked rom? I guess what I am asking is Can you get Manila as a CAB file or do you have to flash it as a ROM?
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The only way to get a different version of Manila is to change ROMs. If you're using the stock ROM, you'll need to switch to a cooked ROM to get one of the newer versions of Manila.