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Updating JASJAR

Hi all,
I have been trying to check out the forum here, to try and solve my problem, I literally bought my JASJAR today, and it was giving some wierd behaviour. In an attempt to reload the software (I prefere to reload the entire ROM), something went wrong, now all thats on my screen is "USB" and a lil lower down "v1.01".
ActiveSync obviously not connecting now bcos the OS is not on the JASJAR no more, in my device manager is a "Microsoft USB Sync" under my mobile devices.
I downloaded what I am guessing is WM6, 'JASJAR_WWE_20106_20301_11300_wwe_ship' from another thread in this forum, tried to load that but cant communicate with device cos no activesync.
I have tried the different reset options, like the 2 function keys and the reset on the back, I push 0 to clear, and then it jus goes back to the USB v1.01 thing.
I am running windows vista home basic, with the Windows Mobile Device Center, it synced perfectly with this software, communicated properly with the update tool, until my device reset and activsync lost connection, then i was stuffed.
Any help will be appreciated.
Thanks in advance.

Sounds like it is your first time with the upgrade. What you are seeing on the screen is the bootloader, which is what we use for flashing new ROMs.
ActiveSync or Windows Mobile Device Center (how come you have both on Vista?) will therefore not respond. This is fine, because we use a different program to load the new ROMs.
If you look at the folder you downloaded, chances are that there should be a program called "ROMUpgradeUt" or something similar. Provided that you have not changed anything in the folder, you should be able to flash the new ROM by simply following the instructions in the program.
You can also read this link for more information: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Universal

Here is an instruction guide on ROM upgrading: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=269118

how come you have both on Vista?
Sorry, I don't mean to sound like I have both, I recently moved to Vista, and am used to calling it activesync and not WMDC.
Thanks, will have a look

Ok, well I have got it up and running again, only problem now is activsync keeps freezing when I try and sync the device...any ideas?
I landed up using my work computer, which has XP on it, and then used MTTY and that connected fine, on Vista it simply didnt wanna work.
I ran the utility for those 'stuck on serial/usb', and that fixed it. Now I would like to load up WM6, but it keeps getting communication failures.

Thanks for the help guys....I got it working...running on WM6 now...whoo!!

Windows Vista, WM6, and Tethering

Ok I searched on the forums hard for this one so forgive me if this has already been answered. I see to find people with Windows Mobile 6 and Windows XP or people with Windows Vista but Windows Mobile 5.
Since I'm running Vista, I use Windows Mobile Device Center instead of ActiveSync. The functionality of the program is fine, so I have no complaints. However, to upgrade ROMs or anything...I use an XP Machine as it seems Vista seems to think the device disconnects upon the loading of the bootloader. I've read somewhere in the forums that there is a driver update to fix that, but after applying...WMDC doesn't work properly...so I'd save the trouble and use a machine that has XP running instead until a better fix comes along.
My 8525 came stock with a program called Wireless Modem as of ROM 1.34.502.1 shipped, which seems to have been replaced by Internet Sharing.
The Wireless Modem application worked fine after setting up the modem with the Vista driver also found in the forums. I also tested the bluetooth connection and set that up to tether as well and it worked fine.
I finally decided to upgrade after days of reading and I tried to use the Wireless Modem feature. I noticed it wasn't there and tried to use Internet Sharing. The layouts are similar...but when I hook up the phone under USB, my computer doesn't even recognize it as a new device (modem) as I did uninstall the last driver.
When connected via Bluetooth, it recognized the device and installed the driver as Windows Mobile-based device support by default. Under services, only Active Sync is only available...as opposed to before when I had Dial-Up networking available. When I set up a PAN, the computer and device are connected together, however I do get the same problem as some others with a connection that is limited or local only. So the tethering is unsuccessful.
I recently upgraded my Cingular 8525 to WM6BE v1.2 (Cingular Edition)...which I can't seem to find in the threads anymore. I'm also running Radio 1.38.00.11...but I don't think that would affect anthing. I reverted back to my shipped ROM to check for alternate settings that might have helped...then I was going to revert back to WM6BE v1.2 Cingular...then I realized I accidently deleted that custom ROM and I couldn't find it anymore. I was stuck putting on the WM6BE v1.2 on the sticky thread after which forced me to reinstall the data settings/keyboard fix from the cab files. Haven't had problems with them but I did like that customized ROM for Cingular a little better considering I really like "clean" ROMs.
Anyway, I'm attempted to connect via MEdia Net AND Cingular GPRS settings provided by the Cingular Data Settings cab floating around the forums. It works fine it seems...it just seems like the problem is getting Vista to recognize the device as a modem, or at least having modem capabilities.
I guess thats as detailed as I can get right now. Hopefully someone can help now ^_^

You are right. I tried updating rom on Vista's Windows mobile Device and end up damaging my xda2i. The device displays "USB" when connected to cradle and "Serial v1. 01" when not. Do you have a solution apart from upgrading?

Solution on Vista
Hello Guys, I'm running vista too and I bothered 2 hours before getting it done.
So this is one of the "Step-By-Step Instruction Guides".
0. Extract the attached file into a directory of your choice
1. Disconnect your Device
2. Goto Settings > Connections and choose "USB To PC"
3. Uncheck the option there
4. Reconnect your Device
5. Goto your DeviceManager and search for "HTC USB Sync", double click it and choose Drivers
6. Click on the "Update Driver"-Button and choose search on the computer
7. Click "Choose a driver from list..."
8. Click the button to the right (Open from Media)
9. Choose any INF File from the extracted ones.
10. You're done, upgrade your ROM.
11. To Rollback drivers, use the "Automatic Update" instead of Manually selecting (it will choose the newest ones)
12. Recheck the option of step 2 unless you're planning to use the slow variant.
Have Phun and Good Luck

Have I understand right? With this tweak We will be able to applied ROM upgrades to our HERMES from windows VISTA?

Confirmed.
I did already update my ROM in this way.
Cheers,
soniX
EDIT:
Please use HardSPL or something equal to be sure the risk is at a minimum.
And I can not be held responsible for any damage to your Hermes or your Brain
But as I said, for me it worked perfectly, remember to Restore the new Drivers or the Mobile Device Center will not work.

Hmm I don't think you people understand what I was asking...
I already know about that method to update with Vista...I actually tried it yesterday and for some reason it didn't work so I just use an XP Machine for now...but I was just asking merely about TETHERING.
I already have the ROMs of my choice loaded on my device.
In simpler words: How do I go about tethering (Running Internet Sharing) when my computer does not recognize the device as a modem...through USB or Bluetooth.
I'm running WM6BE v1.2 and Windows Vista Ultimate.

Maybe its Wm6BE, but I have used all the other roms (xda live, des, lsvw) and all I do is plug in the usb, start internet sharing and it connects no problem. Have to start internet sharing before wmdc starts. Internet Sharing works great, better than wireless modem. I was not able to use the WM6be due to problems with sbp pocket plus. I am currently using XDA live .30 and Vista Ultimate.

Does the technique in the post above work??
Also once that procedure is carried out can rom updates and RUU programs be used exactly the same as on XP??
If anyone is available to do some screenshots for me for an updated GUIDE, please PM me (i dont use or have a copy of vista )

I enjoy the community so I think I'll do my best to contribute to it. When I get the chance, I'll try to make a guide with screenshots on using Windows Vista and loading WM6.
I'm going to try to switch to LVSW build with his new update today and I'll see how that works out.
I REALLY like the one custom build someone made (I forgot who) with the Cingular connection settings defaulted from the Cingular Shipped ROMs...I wish I can find those files again.
It seems like the people developing the new Cingular data connection cab files are really working hard at getting the default settings as if they just bought their phoes straight from Cingular.
I'll let you know how LVSW goes with Internet Sharing and Windows Vista

sonixwarrior said:
Hello Guys, I'm running vista too and I bothered 2 hours before getting it done.
So this is one of the "Step-By-Step Instruction Guides".
0. Extract the attached file into a directory of your choice
1. Disconnect your Device
2. Goto Settings > Connections and choose "USB To PC"
3. Uncheck the option there
4. Reconnect your Device
5. Goto your DeviceManager and search for "HTC USB Sync", double click it and choose Drivers
6. Click on the "Update Driver"-Button and choose search on the computer
7. Click "Choose a driver from list..."
8. Click the button to the right (Open from Media)
9. Choose any INF File from the extracted ones.
10. You're done, upgrade your ROM.
11. To Rollback drivers, use the "Automatic Update" instead of Manually selecting (it will choose the newest ones)
12. Recheck the option of step 2 unless you're planning to use the slow variant.
Have Phun and Good Luck
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Also, I've seen this guide posted twice...yours missing one step where I was supposed to "End WMDC.exe Process in Task Manager"
I still can't get Vista to run RUU...do you run the RUU with your device in Bootloader? I think I even tried that once and and still couldn't get it to work with the older Driver.
Not exactly sure what I'm missing or doing wrong...but its definitely after I install the driver. It acts as if I didn't install it at all, even if I check in drive details and its all correct in there.

i tried the method above for upgrading in vista and it didnt work for me...
what am i missing?

Where is it stopping?
Because I did it once, it has to work.
Where is it stopping? - At the bootloader (LSD-Screen with psychedelic colors ?) - or before ?
I will do an upgrade in the afternoon again and this time i will record ALL of my steps.
Hopefully I'll find the recept for the cake.
Cheers,
soniX

Yea it gets to the bootloader screen and I'm stuck as if I never loaded the AS4.5 drivers.

Sorry, too less time today for a screenshot-decorated guide.
I just upgraded my device again (only to proove it does work).
So here is again a guide, which differs to the first one.
I guess there are two ways to do this...
Prequesites:
- Search my previous post and download the USBAS.zip-File
- Extract it into a directory...
- You'll need your device and it has to be connected, too
The first approach:
Change the Serial-Driver
- On the device click Start > Settings, choose "Connections" there and click on "USB to PC"
- uncheck the item for "Enhanced..." there
- Click on OK.
- Now goto your Device Manager.
- Search an Item named "HTC USB Sync".
- Right-click it and choose "Update Driver".
- Choose the second option, then select to choose manually
- Select the directory where the zip has been extracted to and choose any inf file.
Start the Update-Tool
- After the driver-update you need to set the device back to RNDIS-Mode (follow Step 1 and recheck the option)
- Verify that you're running the correct drivers for the RNDIS-Device, the date in the device-manager has to be around January, 17th 2007.
- Start the ROM-Upgrade.
- It should work now.
For me it did not really work to switch from RNDIS to USB-Serial drivers in my localized (thanks bepe for the great work!) german WM6.
So if you have a problem with the first method use this one.
- Start your Device-Manager, we have to be very fast.
- Start the ROM-Upgrade as you've probably done before
- If the bootloader starts up, you'll notice a device/dettached,device/attached sound, this is your sign, goto to you Device-Manager.
- Search for the Entry "HTC USB Sync".
- Update drivers like it's written above.
- If it won't work and the upgrade tool dies with "cannot connect", don't worry. Reset your device (soft) and try again, this time you should not need to update the drivers.
Cheers,
soniX

I'm using XP and a USB cable. USed to work OK before upgrading to WM6 Black but now I get Error 797 on the PC saying modem not found or busy!

mrvanx said:
Does the technique in the post above work??
Also once that procedure is carried out can rom updates and RUU programs be used exactly the same as on XP??
If anyone is available to do some screenshots for me for an updated GUIDE, please PM me (i dont use or have a copy of vista )
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Take a look here
Code:
http://www.modaco.com/index.php?showtopic=252977
For Vista guide with screen shots, so far i've only flashed HardSPLv4 from inside Vista, but it worked i'm still plucking up enough courage to do a full flash of WM6
Nic

I do this (for Hard-SPL, don't know for other):
I have made what it was written on modaco (http://www.modaco.com/index.php?showtopic=252977), but
1) I was not in bootloader.
2) While active sync try to connect (but it does not succeed because they are not its driver) I've stopped WMDC.EXE and now hermes is connected.
3) NOW I do a flash.
If there is something that is not clear you say it to me.

My method also works (for me)
Can somebody confirm that my method works for vista?
soniX

I'm based also to your method, but it would be more complete to integrate it with the method on modaco.

It seems that most people didn't get the point of this thread...weird considering I put TETHERING in the subject line. However, it is nice to see people trying to help others with Vista to flash. I have the same problem myself but access to machines with XP nullify my real need for flashing on Vista for now.
I'm about to reinstall LVSW's latest ROM set for the billionth time and I'll try out tethering on that. It seems that people who were on WM6BE were having a hard time with Internet Sharing. I'll load a new rom and let you know how it goes.

Did I brick my Hermes??

My problem all started when I try to get BB Connect 4.0 to work on my Hermes. After searching all around, I decided the original ROM that came with my Hermes (4/19/07 version) would not work with BB connect 4 so I decided to install Black 2.5. Being a newbie (I had the phone for all about 3 days), I downloaded Black's .exe package and ran it with the Rom Update Utility provided with the package.
I selected the Force-SSPL option and everything went fine. However, after the installation finished, I can no longer perform activesync with the device. I uninstalled and reinstalled activesync 4.5 multipletimes with no avail. I searched all over the forum and can't find anything on it. I now can't even downgrade or reinstall the package because activesync doesn't recognize the phone anymore.
Please help!!!

Alright guys, after 6 hour of searching on the forum, I figured out what it was. Using this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=302459 the checkbox under the settings --> Connection --> Usb to PC "enabled advaced network functionality" was checked. Unchecking it solve the problem.

you should also know that putting your phone into boot loader will do the same thing and also makes flashing just as easy or you could have flashed from an SD card. the term bricking means your phone will not turn on period bricking is not what you did. Not doing the research is what i you did,,,

Update just radio in Vista

I have a TyTN with official Russian WM6 onto it, which includes 1.16 radio version. I want a newer one, because this seems unstable, so i decided to update just radio (i don't want any cooked ROM or whatever for now).
Each new version of radio I found here failed earlier or later on a Vista x64 computer with error 260. What I have tried is 1.54.07.00 and 1.54.00.10 and 1.50.
To my surprise, packaging is different, but the effect is the same: after "Verifying the image on your device" (i can hear USB disconnecting and connecting back as the device enters bootloader) they time out with 260.
Right now I'm trying to revert what have I done to Vista as it won't allow me to turn off driver signing, as advised.
Ah, this doesn't work either (same error 260).
What am I doing wrong? My bootloader is, as said on that screen:
Code:
HERM200
IPL-1.01
HERM200
SPL-1.40.Olipro
Yes, I have installed some...er...thing before, maybe it was called "HardSPL", but it didn't come handy and wasn't any use to me as I decided against cooking a ROM.
Update: What I like the most is, despite all my attempts the device still works! Other than the radio troubles, that is.

I've updated from an SD card.

Try this my friend... http://www.mrvanx.org

Thank you, I did.
Please note the x64 drivers are unsigned so to use them successfully you must disable driver signing.
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This is what I'm unable to do, but I suppose is beyond this forum.

Hi
I have had the same problem with my x64 vista pc and the 260 error msg. It took me hours but what seemed to finally fix it for me was to:
1. completely remove WMDC from the pc, reboot the pc,
2. reinstall WMDC plus upgrade,
3. uncheck the allow USB connections option on your 8525, exit out of the window, then do a soft reset
4. now make a USB connection w the PC
Let us know how it works

Sorry, you'll have to wait till my next upgrade Everything is working so far - so until I need something that can't be achieved using SD flashing I'll stick to this technique. Thanks for the advice anyway.

Can't exit bootloader screen

Hi,
I tried to upgrade my XDA using Ranju's latest updater, the whole process failed and now I'm stuck at the BL screen "USB" at the top (when connected, otherwise it says "serial") and "v1.00" at the bottom.
My PC, SyncCentre and Windows Mobile Device Centre (I'm using Vista) all show the device as being disconnected (up until trying to upgrade everything had been fine).
As it's not showing up on my PC all of the software options for recovering it dont fail, all end with a plethora of USB not connected errors etc
I've tried the how-to on the wiki: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Uni_Stuck_Bootloader_Serial to no avail.
Does anybody have any ideas? Greatly appreciated,
Thanks,
Lee

with jasjar-bl1.01-ruu-v1.2 I always restart my JJ Leave your uni in bl and start the application Good luck......
I think the Vista is not the problem this upgrade don't use AS or "in italian centro gestione dispositivi WM"
Bye
M.C.

Well, I flashed my Qtek a while ago, it failed to flash (using Vista) and doing a hard reset after it whas hanging at the startupscreen(the one with all the rom/radio numbers). No matter what I tried, following the instructions on Vista windows mobile center all failed... The good news is that your computer and your PDA still see when it is connected, ie USB/Serial, like in my case!
I then tried it on my desktop/XP, it flashed without a problem...
The funny bit is that I flashed my herald (WM6) 2 times using Vista without any problem...
I cannot explain but if U have the possibility, try and see if it works on XP...!
Good luck!

are you trying to flash it WITH your SIM card and / or SD card inside? If so, try taking them both out! It worked for me a few times!

I would start by getting rid of vista !

i had the same xprience
the different was i downgrade from wm6 to wm5 (i need the vcall)
failed in vista, succeed in xp
-> my advice : try in xp !! don't forget to remove the sd card

Manual for how to flash a rom in Vista
Read this post, you have the solution to the problem here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=313001
You need to update the driver manually, if not, will not be able to install the driver.
You need to do this without sd/sdhc and without the sim.
If you follow these instructions, you can flash with success.
Greetings.
Kali.