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Microsoft Gears Up Windows for Devices (6.0 R2 on Nov. 15)

Operating system maker Microsoft is currently working hard on delivering the next version of Windows Embedded CE in November and on tapping the lucrative market for service-enabled devices. Kevin Dallas, general manager of Microsoft's Windows Embedded Business group, said the company plans to launch Windows Embedded CE 6.0 R2 on Nov. 15 at the Embedded Technology 2007 show in Yokohama, Japan, known as one of the "world's largest trade show and conference for embedded system designers and managers."
The new operating system will be the foundation for service-oriented devices, Dallas told eWEEK in an interview. Windows Embedded CE 6.0 will feature support for Web services on devices, VOIP (voice-over-IP) video technology capabilities and Internet Explorer updates. "We're clear on the opportunity moving forward and we're going to deliver an operating system to go into an intelligent device," Dallas said.
http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,2203123,00.asp
Any chance we can get this to work on Trinity? I have been told that upgrading to 6 at the moment is pointless as it is very slow, whilst this release fixes that and is the same speed as WM5.

Nighthawk2050 said:
I have been told that upgrading to 6 at the moment is pointless as it is very slow, whilst this release fixes that and is the same speed as WM5.
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I haven't noticed much change in speed although it uses more program memory.

It is much slower than WM5.

Nighthawk2050 said:
It is much slower than WM5.
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You are the first one to hear something like that...
Are you serius???
When you are in a clean install try to open the windows folder (with hidden file's enable) in wm5 and try it in wm6 to understund and see what you say.
After that post the result's...
He he

I don't think wm6 is slower than wm5 at least not the versions I have been trying out over the months,plus the icons on wm6 are kind of different and smoother so this could cause the system to lose some speed.
As for the battery,both last the same to me,these are just my personal experiences.
If you ask me wm6 is faster I can notice just by opening the file explorer.

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It is much slower than WM5.
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What?!?!?!?...I don't think so...In my opinion, WM6 is way faster...
This is something that has been so debated...

I believe this is talking about real WM6. What we consider WM6 is just a nicer looking WM5 with a few changes. I believe WM 5.2.2 is what WM6 is for us, and the WM6 they're talking about is the real deal.

WM6 is quite faster than WM5
The best way to emphasize the performance difference between WM5 and WM6 is effectively to browse files in the system library.
Difference is huge...

What your talking about there is accessing lists of files, what we are talking about is opening times of applications etc. as in performance benchmarks. WM5 on Trinity is much faster than WM6 in its current form. Hense the reason for the new update from MS.

Windows Embedded CE has nothing to do with Windows Mobile.

Beg to differ as this is will be for both for devices and for mobiles

see below
http://www.windowsfordevices.com/news/NS8714882631.html
Oct. 22, 2007
Microsoft reportedly has been talking more than usual about the future of embedded Windows OSes. Recent revelations range from the short-term -- the release of "Windows CE 6.0 R2" next month -- to a long-term vision of "MinWin," the stripped-down kernel that will be at the heart of "Windows 7."
Windows CE 6.0 R2, XP Embedded SP3, Vista Embedded
Regarding Windows CE 6.0 R2, Kevin Dallas, general manager of Microsoft's Windows Embedded business group, used an interview with our sister publication, eWEEK.com, to reiterate plans first revealed in his keynote at September's Embedded Systems Conference (ESC) in Boston. The new version of Windows CE will feature new support for Web services on devices, new VoIP (voice-over-IP) video technology capabilities, and Internet Explorer updates, he said.......................

Or
Windows Embedded CE 6.0 R2 Launch
http://msevents.microsoft.com/CUI/W...&EventCategory=2&culture=en-US&CountryCode=US

It's WinCE not mobile!
As for WinMob, M$ will update WM6 Standart to Wm 6.1 Standart at may 2008.
http://www.fiercedeveloper.com/story/microsoft-blogger-leaks-windows-mobile-6-1/2007-10-02
New type of menu will be available in wm7 Prof wich will be released in 2009

When is WM 6.1 available???

I thought that WM 6.1 is out already, after reading all the articles and seeing the video demonstrating the OS. do u guys have any good guess when it might come out, i would love to see the Dash with that kicking ass home screen and improved ROM.

I have been curious to know also. Everything I have read states that Microsoft will officially announce it in February, and new devices will start shipping with it in May. Given that, I would expect updates for older devices by year's end. I hope that the Dash gets the update.

Windows Mobile 6.1
Looks similar to what HTC and T-Mobile did with the T-Mobile shadow device. Changed the way the user navigates through the menus to make it "easier" anded a new homescreen and that was about it. I cant wait for win mobile 7 next year or so hopefully.

So the WM 6.1 will be announced in Feb 11:
The first vital news item is exact time and place of Microsoft's press conference, where, most likely, the Windows Mobile 6.1 will be announced:
Mobile World Congress 2008: February 11, 2008
15:00-16:00 Microsoft Press Conference
Microsoft Executive Meeting Centre
Hotel Catalonia Plaza
(organized by Microsoft Mobility Team at Weber Shandwick - a PR company that Microsoft uses)
Most likely the main speaker will be Pieter Knook (the highest in hierarchy manager responsible for Windows Mobile and not for other unrelated divisions) together with some other top managers from Microsoft and Microsoft partner companies (operators and manufacturers).

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Looks similar to what HTC and T-Mobile did with the T-Mobile shadow device. Changed the way the user navigates through the menus to make it "easier" anded a new homescreen and that was about it. I cant wait for win mobile 7 next year or so hopefully.
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Well, threaded SMS, IE zooming and page preview... not just homescreen

Any Updates
I am seeing a lot of 6.1 related posts for other phones, but nothing on the Excalibur. Does anyone have any updates/links for a 6.1 ROM for the Excalibur?

i'd love an update too. i read on another site a quick writeup. they said for smartphone the 6.1 update will help to resolve (note: not fix entirely) the memory leaking issues. that's my biggest hope, that and an updated IE... though with the new opera coming out, it might be outdone before it even has a chance anyway.

Windows Mobile 6.1 is out, emulator images also
Here is the official press release for Windows Mobile 6.1
EveryWAN Remote Support and Mobility Manager already work on those OS flavors.
You can download the Windows Mobile 6.1 emulator images.
Don't play too late with it this night !

Celio Mobile Viewer not WM 6.5 compatible, hardreset

Sounded to good to be true: WinMobile fullscreen on your XP/Vista, with Celio Mobile Viewer, with a number of HTC devices supported. Ok, HD not listed, but from experience we know that this does not always mean the end.
Installed the driver cab and desktop application, the cab reset my HD, and...HD would only show bootscreen and no longer load WM 6.5 (Deuk V7). Ok, no big deal, battery out, hard reset, restore, back to MyMobiler for HD on the PC desktop.
But you, after reading this post, dont have to fall into the same trap. But maybe it runs under WM 6.1, wanna test?
Promising application though - if they work out HD-compatibility, probably also WM 6.5.
http://www.celiocorp.com/viewer

HD with latest 5/1 build now appears on beta list, under WM 6.1

Same thing happened to me with my Titan and WM6.5
and dummy me...they came out with a new build which I tried AGAIN & had the same experience.
HTC Titan WM6.5 & Celio Redfly MobileViewer are not curently compatible as of 5/5/09

Any roumors about real Windows Mobile 6.5 on HTC Exca?

Any roumors about real Windows Mobile 6.5 on HTC Exca?

No there is no official WM6.5 to be released... Same goes for many phones with the same lifespan... Not forgetting there isn't even an official 6.1 for Excalibur...

Windows Mobile 6.0 to 6.1 Question for Engineering Device

Hi. I have an unusual situation - I device called a Nomad 900 that runs Windows Mobile 6.0 Classic. I have just purchased some new GPS/GNSS software for this unit but it will not run on WM 6.0. According to the experts I have talked to, my device need to be updated from WM 6.0 to WM 6.1. There is even an update file for my ROM that I have downloaded. Once the update process starts on my Nomad via my pc, I am prompted to enter a license key in order to install WM 6.1. I have googled and called like crazy to purchase a license key for the WM 6.1 and nobody sells it (they say they don't have the authority or ability to sell windows mobile licenses). If Microsoft, my dealer and/or the equipment manufacturer has units that currently run WM 6.1 but can't give me a paid license key for the OS upgrade, how can I successfully get WM 6.1 on my Nomad?
Thanks for any advice.