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Hi, i just got an XDA IIs and have been reading up as it does seam to crash regually. and i heard that removing the o2 active peice of crap helps. but i cant find anywhere how to do it?
Cheers Paul
The best way to get rid of O2 active is to hard reset, when the screen apears asking "PRIVATE OR CORPORATE" install select corporate then enter 0506 in the password field.
If you do this back up your phone and address book to the SD card, before you hard reset - do not try to re-install all your programs etc from back up following the hard reset, as doing this re-loads part of the rubish you are trying to get rid of - believe me if you do this it really screws up the handset - I tried it - wouldn't charge in the car, kept locking up etc. The sooner you do the hard reset the easy it will be - less applications to re-load - good luck _ Mike
Hi all,
I to am trying this reset process with an O2 XDA, when it hard resets I am not getting the screen asking me for "PRIVATE OR CORPORATE", any ideas as to why?
Can someone also confirm the Hard Reset sequene?
Many thanks
Paul
what i do is, after the hard reset (and choosing personal) and having it do all its stuff, first, remove/disable all O2 stuff from the today screen (start -> settings -> today -> remove all the o2 stuff in both tabs).
then start -> settings -> remove programs, remove all the o2 active VR stuff.
probably a message will pop up, noting some directories it doesn't remove. after removal is done, just go to file manager, and manually delete those directories.
seems to remove it for me =)
Mackster, you only get about five seconds to select the mode you want, if you don't do anything it will install personel mode as default - Why O2 insist on puting this rubish on there badged machines is beyond me - it makes a nice bit of kit into rubish, Ive had no problems since getting shut of it, even O2 support by phone will tell you to take it off as the first line for most queries - Mike
Paul, the thing I did was hard reset, and when it gives me a warning that programs will be installed in 3 seconds, I did a soft reset. After the soft reset, it won't try to install the programs anymore. I think this gives you the CLEANEST install.
When I did the Corporate setup, it still installed the PDF viewer, blah blah... I would like to control what I put in my PDA, even if they are useful programs. Hope this helps.
Sam
Sorry to dig this topic up, but I was looking for a solution and came up with one myself and thought I'd post it incase it comes in handy for anyone else.
Right, to disable the O2 Active UI from running...
Code:
Programs -> File Explorer
- Go to \Windows\Startup (make sure you have \ not \\ at the beginning if entering a path name)
- Delete the "connections" program
Soft Reset
This should stop the little O2 icon from appearing in the taskbar. For completeness, you'll probably want to stop any of the other O2 apps from running as well...
Code:
settings -> today -> items
- untick o2aui
- untick clockinfo
- untick o2BatteryPlugin
- OK
Soft Reset (to be sure)
Personally, I like the battery plugin, because its actually quite practical. Anyway, if you want to completely remove the software, do as follows...
Code:
Programs -> File Explorer
- Go to \Windows\Fonts
- Delete or rename the xpdr_02 (font) file
Settings -> System -> Remove Programs
- Select the O2 active UI from the list and click remove.
The UI should now be removed. It will probably tell you that it was successful, though some directories remain. You can delete them manually if you wish, but they shouldn't matter.
If you need/want to re-install the O2 software, you can do so from the software CD provided with the XDA, or it may be still available from the add/remove programs menu in ActiveSync.
You'll have probably noticed there's quite a lot of programs in the \Windows\Startup folder. I'm not sure what all of them do, but I bet you can get better start up times by removing some of them. Be careful though!
Enjoy
Thankyou to all that helped me out.
Many thanks
Paul :lol:
Mackster said:
Thankyou to all that helped me out.
Many thanks
Paul :lol:
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Thanks, finally got rid of o2 Active with the help I found here
I think I want to do a corporate install (Because I'm now having problems with vanishing clocks) but was to keep my o2batteryplugin
Does anyone know where it is so I can copy it - I've tried searching but nothing comes up
thanks
Patrick
Maybe it's
windows\batteryinfo.dll
?
sunpat said:
Maybe it's
windows\batteryinfo.dll
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I copied that accroos to my iPaq - doesn't work...;(
Thanks Trin
O2 Active removed successfully - thanks for the help.
Also found how to add the BatteryInfo.dll back in on this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=26995
Rob
O2 Active removal
Hi,
first hard rest ur device..when it will start installin a few files after u finish da setup...soft rest it..i.e. dun allow it 2 copy files nd u r done.
cheers,
ind
remove O2aui
Hi there,
I have seen so many clever hints how to successfully remove the O2aui from the device that I wonder what's wrong with simply goint to settings/system/remove programs and remove Mobile Solutions SRL O2ActiveUI v... ?
Would this remove more functions that I actually need?
Thanks for your comments.
Cheers
Trin said:
Sorry to dig this topic up, but I was looking for a solution and came up with one myself and thought I'd post it incase it comes in handy for anyone else.
Right, to disable the O2 Active UI from running...
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Trin said:
You've sorted something I've been trying to do for ages. That interface was really annoying.
Thank you.
QF
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ice man said:
The best way to get rid of O2 active is to hard reset, when the screen apears asking "PRIVATE OR CORPORATE" install select corporate then enter 0506 in the password field.
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0506? Thought it was 0504?
quinbus_flestrin said:
Trin said:
Sorry to dig this topic up, but I was looking for a solution and came up with one myself and thought I'd post it incase it comes in handy for anyone else.
Right, to disable the O2 Active UI from running...
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Trin said:
You've sorted something I've been trying to do for ages. That interface was really annoying.
Thank you.
QF
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You guys are amazing.
That company HCT should put you people on a permanent retainer.
I can testify that 0506 works to stop the O2 interface program being installed.
My XDA is now O2-free, and my lady's XDA is running an Orange Pay-as-you-go card.
As good as we think the XDA is, it would be nowhere near as good without this board and forum. The only problem we have had is actually finding the tricks to use.
A sticky or a permanent post would be most helpful. You folks all know how to do things like Hard Re-sets and have forgotten the time when you didn't. Just those two simple things... a hard re-set and that 0506 trick... have profoundly enhanced my use and experience of my XDA.
BTW in case anyone is thinking of buying one, we got a Stowaway Portable Keyboard with one of our XDAs, and we think it's pretty good. You have to remember to turn off the IRD when you want to use the keyboard, but aside from that, it was a good addition for us.
QF
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hey guyz,
wwhooo got my MDA today finallY!!!
just wanted to know. is there a way to showing the contacts with first name, first because at the moment its showing the surname. is there an option for this? coz i cant find it anywhere.
thx guyz,
Snoop
Hey snoop
There's a hack available for you in order to do that. It was made for the Exec, but it works on my Orbit, so should be ok for you. It's attached.
kool thanks. i downloaded and installed the file on memory card.
how do i activite it now?
sorry for obvious question
Sorry for the delay in posting.
If you've installed the cab file then there's no need to do anything now. You can now go to contacts and by accessing the menu on a particular contact you can see the "Save as: First Last" in the contact menu.
I hope this was of any use.
Thats a great hack by Grogo, this has been annoying me for a long time, what i do to get around this after adding contact on the PDA I then sync with my MS Outlook and change contact details "File As > pick option" which Grogo's hack does.
hi there !
I just installed this hack, but I see no additional menu in my contacts.
Maybe because I've Italian version of WM5 ?
Hi Gabro,
this hack wasn't made by me, so I'm not 100% sure if it'll work on a italian version of WM5.
Here's a link to the original post, try asking the author. Cheers and good luck.
de-installing and re-installing again made the job.
Windows deja-vu !
this simply does not work for me ... unfortunately ... is there alternative way to fix this issue ?
doesnt work for me either (wm6), i see the option in the menu but it does nothing.
I used to have this on my exec and it worked fine though
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cancel that, If i hold down my stylus on a contact and choose "File As:First Last" it works a treat, only trouble is I cant do it en-mass, I have to select each contact individually :/
Yes, I've finally gotten around to looking into this whole cab making malarkey and while this is an existing one customised to fit my needs, it's a good learning curve
It's the palm threaded SMS app and it just plain rocks - really
So anyway, I've tested this on WM6 (Black 4) and it really works. Everything is already set up in this for using with T-Mobile and MMS works too! It integrates nicely with the HTC homescreen and includes a custom alert tone (hope you like it! )
Just to make sure the install goes OK, please use the task manager to stop the messaging \ poutlook \ tmail processes before you run the cab as I believe this could cause problems.
You will lose your existing SMS and MMS messages in the standard messaging app so if you want to keep them, use PIMBackup first
It's a fantastic app and I recommend giving it ago and if you're on T-Mob, I've just made it a little easier for you
Cheers,
Smiffy.
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EDIT 1: Fixed MMS settings
http://rapidshare.com/files/36981262/Lordsmiff_-_Threaded.cab.html
If you ever vist bristol I may be tempted to reward you. thanks.. a handy cab.
Any screen shots of threaded SMS? Also if i uninstall your cab, does everything go back to normal?
Thanks
nbedford said:
Any screen shots of threaded SMS? Also if i uninstall your cab, does everything go back to normal?
Thanks
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Good point! Nice work on the cab Lord but some reassurance would be fantastic
Service provider?
Have installed it and its quality. I can't send mms though. In the settings its set to cingular. I've got the tmob settings bar the centre number any ideas?
screen shot
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2006/10/18/treo-750v-threaded-sms-mms-app-hacked-for-all/
looks like that
I'm looking at it now - I did test it on mine first but I think it probably kept the registry settings when I uninstalled it and re-installed it.
As for uninstalling...on my T-Mobile UK MDA Vario II, it uninstalled perfectly and everything reverted to the standard messaging app...BUT, as with anything like this, please don't just take the poster's word for it - use PIMBackup and and back it all up first!! It will most likely work OK, but...sh*t happens ;-)
Smiffy.
Thanks man. Your word is always good enough
OK, there were 2 places in the registry where the MMS settings were stored and I only changed 1 but it's sorted now (tested 3 times ;-)
And no, my word isn't good enough ;-) Back it up!! :-D
Cheers,
Smiffy.
Fixed and fantastic
Think this will quite possibly be the first cab i'll install after future flashes. Intelligent fuctionality.
Cheers Lordsmiff nice work
Forgot to say that when i uninstalled first version my old sms and mms were still there. When i reinstalled the new ones reappeared. Like lordsmiff says back up just in case but it didnt completely remove messages only temporarily when using the app.
You're right, it doesn't remove the old messages, it just uses a different message store but, at the risk of repeating myself ;-) back it up anyway
Which reminds me - if you want to reflash your device and then get all your threaded SMS messages back, you need to backup a file in the Windows folder called "PalmMsgV001" and also a folder in Windows called "MMS"
The file has all the text messages and stuff in and the folder has all the images etc from MMS messages in (I found that out the hard way )
Copy those two to your storage card and then back after a reflash to have everything back in threads
Cheers,
Smiffy.
Moved to rapidshare at mod's request
Anyone have any ideas where better to put it as I know some people (myself included) can't get them during working hours...damn those proxys
Cheers,
Smiffy.
Is it possible to install this threaded sms cab then alter the network settings by installing one of the available operator cabs or does the setting need to be entered manually?
Thanks.
i havent looked at lordsmiff's version... but if its anything like the ones i posted there is a possible issue of mms not working if you enter the settings manually... but his could be different...
There's not much chance of it being too different - it's based on your cab
If you want me to mod it for your provider, I can do that for you
Just PM me the connection details and I'll see what I can do
Cheers,
Smiffy.
i had another thought if you wanted to run with the idea.. i go back to work today so my time is going to be limited again.
The original version where based on the sprint connections, when i extracted all the files from the cingular treo rom and dumped the registry i compared them, i noticed all the reg settings were pretty much the same except for 2 lines and of course all the provider settings. But im thinking that if we left out the hard coded provider settings and allow the user to enter them manually that this may stop the "sometimes" apparent connection issues with MMS. So basically have a generic threaded cab with no provider settings hard coded at all... and if someone wanted to feel ambitious enough they could make cabs with just the hard coded reg settings for different providers (not the whole app)..
Hi!
Sounds great! Can it also be used for a other provider ? If yes; how do I know my settings ?
Does it show a alerts and integrates it good in the HTC Home Screen ?
XIvius
Lordsmiff said:
There's not much chance of it being too different - it's based on your cab
If you want me to mod it for your provider, I can do that for you
Just PM me the connection details and I'll see what I can do
Cheers,
Smiffy.
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I really love this app and would like to go back to it. MMS has always worked for me when using shogunmarks version but I think its limited to 300k.
Since your offering lord would you make one for AT&T?
I linked the settings I would have just posted them here but didn't want to miss something so I linked the main page for you.
http://www.wireless.att.com/answer-...le=en_US&_dyncharset=UTF-8&solutionId=KB71325
thanks
One thing everyone should know when using this app is if you use any kind of app that closes programs like HTC Task Manager for example you need to add the Palm Threaded app to the exclusive list so it does NOT close when pressing x.
What happens a lot of times is most people write their txt msg and just click the x but with the threaded you have to wait until the msg is actually sent.
So the app should be running most of the time..
Hi,
What about the new sms notify; does it show an alerts and integrates it good in the HTC Home Screen ?
Xivius
I know that 4.1 is only just out & I think it's brilliant. I'm spending every evening checking new posts and playing with my phone like never before. So, before the 4.1 thread becomes the next thread with 1200 posts, I thought I'd start a new thread for ideas for 4.2
Tom - before I found the magic that is B&B I was using Wisbar Advance desktop and an application called innesoft address book which had a great feature that when someone called you, their photo was displayed full screen with their name (see thumbnails) rather than just the standard windows window.
Any chance you could devlelop something similar for 4.2 !!!
Cheers
pna said:
I know that 4.1 is only just out & I think it's brilliant. I'm spending every evening checking new posts and playing with my phone like never before. So, before the 4.1 thread becomes the next thread with 1200 posts, I thought I'd start a new thread for ideas for 4.2
Tom - before I found the magic that is B&B I was using Wisbar Advance desktop and an application called innesoft address book which had a great feature that when someone called you, their photo was displayed full screen with their name (see thumbnails) rather than just the standard windows window.
Any chance you could devlelop something similar for 4.2 !!!
Cheers
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Here is something that may hold you over, I am still trying to figure out how to use the caller id without the actual slide to unlock, bit here is something to tide you over, jsut a thought
Have a pretty much full screen keyboard for texting in landscape mode? The text appears at the top?
Is there a way we can assign a button to lock the phone rather than go thruogh the menu?
Cheers
Anybody knows if it is legal to include trial versions of apps in cooked rom?
Was thinking rom with included sktools, english dictionary of some kind, IM+, resco explorer, spb gprs monitor included on rom would save time and space. Apps included would be trial versions and ppl haveing bought them could just enter activation keys/serials, others could buy app if thy liked it.
kakainis said:
Anybody knows if it is legal to include trial versions of apps in cooked rom?
Was thinking rom with included sktools, english dictionary of some kind, IM+, resco explorer, spb gprs monitor included on rom would save time and space. Apps included would be trial versions and ppl haveing bought them could just enter activation keys/serials, others could buy app if thy liked it.
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This would be a waste of time and energy for most, these Roms are made to be efficient, the least amount of space used so that you as an individual can place your desired programs, once a rom is built there is no removing/uninstalling of any apps, hence the reason to not put trial versions into a rom, I use several of the above mentioned, but to "Bloat" a rom with them would be ineffecient. Best thing to do is install on your sd card, keep all your initial install cabs in one folder and use that as your rebuild folder. Cheers.
Juice05 said:
Have a pretty much full screen keyboard for texting in landscape mode? The text appears at the top?
Is there a way we can assign a button to lock the phone rather than go thruogh the menu?
Cheers
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This may assist you in this matter, Cheers.
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Is it not worth remembering that everyone has a different list of killer apps they MUST have on their device?
If Tom & Meschle etc added every app - the rom would only just fit on a 40gb hard disk!!!
To my mind - the idea is that the cooked roms are a basis onto which you install your own apps to make your own device work?
Constanlty asking for new apps to be added to a rom just complicates the issue. Or am I wrong?
something so i can remotly use my desktop via PPC
then im complete
automated network setup like in the O2 WM6 Premium 1.0 WWE rom
Extended timers & alarms application
I'd like to avoid installing SpbTime on each version
Great job!
OK, i agree, rom should be as slim as possible, but why the hell there is cube, psshutXP, PHM regedit/traylaunch, and office mobile on it then?
Could make an ultra lite wersion. (=
P.S. Dont get me wrong, i think 4.1 is great and it is a lot faster than O2. Just throwing around ideas about how to make it better.
with my original post, I was not really asking for a copy of the app, just would like a much bigger photo to pop up with caller id and liked the look of the inesoft one.
Tom - what do you think?
Just trying to make the ROM easier to use, more efficient.
B&B 4.1 is far better than original ROM from this point of view
TouchFlo for example helps to have everything we need with a single finger move..
Phone app is a lot more usable also.
Perhaps also the possibility to customize HTC Home by default, with more options (number of apps in the launcher, ..)
i don't think that is constructive to add as much apps, i can imagine, when it's released, everbody is shouting "this is not good" and "why did you use this app and not the other one"...and so one. I like it clear, not too much apps...but that's my opinion.
If i want it with all apps included then i start (to learn ) cooking my own ROM... IMHO i am very satisfied with the work that Tom is doing for us all. And 4.1 is just released. Enjoy it and let Tom make a break. He is hard working all the time!
Plugins for new version
Alarms extension (SpbTime style)
USB PenDrive emulator (WMstorage style)
Phone call recording (Audio Recorder style)
Thanks for B&B! Great job!
i have a great idea
Why dont we support Tom and all off his hard work and all the other wizards here, and stop complaining or asking for more.
like a bunch of kids in a sweet shop.
Improving File access
What I would like to see is the File Dialog Changer, I don't know who has heard of it but it is very good! Usually when you want to save files or open them in any application you get access to you My Documents folder. Only some smart apps like TCPMP and others have the option to access your entire pda.
File Dialog Changer changes the way you access your files in opening and saving them for every application, it's just 50 KB and you can activate / deactivate it in System Settings.
bbracer16valver said:
something so i can remotly use my desktop via PPC
then im complete
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And about your wish I can only say that there is already Remote Desktop for WM6, I think I've downloaded it in the Wizard forum. Or use PocketVNC, that is the pda version for VNC. I am successfully using that with TightVNC on my computer. I just have to be in range of my WLAN and can turn on my computer by sending a wake on lan signal (not with vnc) and then access my computer through pocketvnc or access the files on my computer.
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Why dont we support Tom and all off his hard work and all the other wizards here, and stop complaining or asking for more.
like a bunch of kids in a sweet shop.
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Thread is: Ideas for B&B version 4.2, nothing to do with sweet shop
brainstorming said:
Thread is: Ideas for B&B version 4.2, nothing to do with sweet shop
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I think he had a point though. In the whole thread there is not one message of Tom Codon himself. Did you ask what he thinks? Maybe he has a few ideas of his own? After all, it will be his ROM...
Who says it will be B&B v4.2? Why not 4.3 or 5.0? If there will be another version let him take care of the numbers.
Hello
Ive just got the HTC Touch and its the first time I use a WM phone.
I feel there are many options missing and I'd love some help from you guys. this is my first post.
First is there a way we can create a shortcut that directly starts a new SMS msg to send ?
How do I make some programs start automatically as windows starts ?
The built-in calculator is the ugliest thing ever, i want an easy to use calc and not scientific , not necessarily loaded with options. I used calcium for N95 i loved it it was just perfect and straight to the point. ( http://www.mtvoid.com/calcium/ )
what a good registry editor for WM ?
......eum , ill add more questions later
hope u guys can help
edit: Also how can i add more profiles ? like beep once and such ?
spacefonkey10 said:
Hello
Ive just got the HTC Touch and its the first time I use a WM phone.
I feel there are many options missing and I'd love some help from you guys. this is my first post.
First is there a way we can create a shortcut that directly starts a new SMS msg to send ?
How do I make some programs start automatically as windows starts ?
The built-in calculator is the ugliest thing ever, i want an easy to use calc and not scientific , not necessarily loaded with options. I used calcium for N95 i loved it it was just perfect and straight to the point. ( http://www.mtvoid.com/calcium/ )
what a good registry editor for WM ?
......eum , ill add more questions later
hope u guys can help
edit: Also how can i add more profiles ? like beep once and such ?
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Hi
First of all, welcome!
Then please READ here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Elf
or here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Elfin
depending on your device
Good luck,
Welcome to xda
Firstly we have a Q&A section here on xda. if you have questions, please post them there.
Secondly:
As orb has already stated just about anything you can ever imagine can be found in the wiki, as he included some links to get you started.
Thirdly (Yes i'm getting somewhere keep reading )
Shortcuts can be created to create new sms's
you will need to know how to make .lnk files which are simply pure text files containing a path, read on here.
To make programs start up with windows a link to the program needs to be placed in the windows\start up\ folder
Try total commander for a registry editor\ advanced file explorer
For programs check freeware websites such as these.