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a little lost

ok, i am going to get a pda phone for cingular wireless, but of course, they only have 1 PDA phone. i'm guessing i will get the XDA phone from somewhere?
i just need to know exactly what i need to do, i have looked on the forums and don't really understand any of the things your talking about, so please help.... thakyou alot!

travman said:
ok, i am going to get a pda phone for cingular wireless, but of course, they only have 1 PDA phone. i'm guessing i will get the XDA phone from somewhere?
i just need to know exactly what i need to do, i have looked on the forums and don't really understand any of the things your talking about, so please help.... thakyou alot!
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Sjeesh man, life is too short to be vague. :| What is it you wish to accomplish?
(Since you posted in 'Unlocking it', it may well be that you wish to use this phone on some other provider than the one that is providing you with the phone, and that you suspect that the phone has a SIMlock set....)

XDA-Developers
i've got an MDA Vario II and just updated it to the original WM6 ROM which was available from T-Mobile, but I am very disappointed - in some things:
- The Power Consumption has increased
- Some Programs are even not in this ROM like the "Notes" Application and the Calculator
- The Performance is not as good as under WM5
- The WMP cannot play MP4 Files
...There are some more issues but I don't want to list them all, because this is not my core question
What I want to know is if it is possible to install the O2 Rom or if you can recommend me another ROM, it is no problem if it is in english, it just should be having all the WM Standard Programs and it should have more performance.
Can I get the original HTC ROM somewhere ?

Extended Rom unlock and Intent cab??

Has anyone been able to figure out how to unlock teh extended rom on the Dash (actually more specifically the s620/excalibur)?
The reason I'm asking is I'm looking for a cab for the intent midlet manager. I'm curious to see if it handles the high mem version of opera mini better than teh default esmertec one does. I'm not patient enough to wait for their "fix" I guess
TIA

there isn't an extended ROM in the smartphone OS.
*BUT*
The high memory version of Opera mini works great on my Dash running the S620 OS.
-K

sweet. does that mean you wanna trade!!
apparently the problem is in the midlet mgr tmo usa bundled, hence the request for intent.
thanks tho

bittermormon said:
sweet. does that mean you wanna trade!!
apparently the problem is in the midlet mgr tmo usa bundled, hence the request for intent.
thanks tho
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Why don't you just install the HTC ROM?

re-read my post. I own a Dash and loaded the s620 FW on it. Best think I ever did.
ANYTHING to get rid of XT9!!!!
-Mc

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re-read my post. I own a Dash and loaded the s620 FW on it. Best think I ever did.
ANYTHING to get rid of XT9!!!!
-Mc
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Ah I missed that part. I received teh reply notification while I was in the car. Typed teh reply at a red light
I've debated bewteen installing it or not. Here's my reasons why not:
1) I'm cheap. I don't know if I wanna spend the $40 to unlock.
2) This is the first smartphone I've bought from tmo. I'm still nervous about voiding any warranty. I need to research a bit about being able to either reflash to the stock tmo rom or backing up my rom to a microSD like I did with teh MDA, as well as being able to CID lock my phone again just incase I have problems.
3) I'm coming from an MDA that I've flashed probably 15 different times. Its a slippery slope to Phone geekdom once I start.
We'll see what happens, thanks for the tips tho. (Eliminating xT9 would be nice though...

Reasons to unlock your phone and flash the s620 ROM on it...
1. the original T-Mobile ROM is available so you could always go back.
2. I'd pay T-Mobile 40 bucks if they'd tell me how to at least turn XT9 off permanently!
3. I hate carrier branding.
4. You'll get that good java client you want
5. You know you want to
6. You'll be able to use *ANY* ROM that comes out in the future.
-Mc

McHale said:
Reasons to unlock your phone and flash the s620 ROM on it...
5. You know you want to
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LOL... i loved that one

ok iv been searching for the t mo rom for the dash.....can u shed some light thanks...i wanna get hacking...

McHale said:
5. You know you want to
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hahaha. Yeah I know. I'll do some research and see what I come up with. Thanks

t mobile dash shipping rom ,nice to see new roms!
bgniko said:
ok iv been searching for the t mo rom for the dash.....can u shed some light thanks...i wanna get hacking...
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go to this link to download
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Uploads/Excalibur/

My understnding is the HTC ROM doesnt support teh push and hold feature to get teh alt of each key?? I've really gotten used to that now.

that is correct, no push and hold. The only other thing that is wierd in the s620 ROM is when you're surfing a mobile webpage where you can hit a number for an option instead of highlighting and selecting it, it doesn't work. Typing 7 to delete your hotmail works on the T-Mobile ROM but not the s620 ROM. No idea why.
*BUT*
That XT9 irritated me SO much, I don't care what I lose. Losing XT9 is the best feature of this ROM and my main motivation for doing it. Also, you get the native JOGGR functionality back (which is a little buggy and slower than using the D-PAD but I digress).
It is a very solid ROM and the Intent Java client is a nice bonus.
-Mc

hey bro
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LOL... i loved that one
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can you confirm this that no such extended rom on smartphones

yup. There is no extended ROM on Smartphones but POF can probably answer better than anyone.
I'm saying there isn't... But I've been wrong before.
-Mc

i think you are!
there is other smartphone with extended roms and to clarify to those who do not know what extended rom is ,when its visible on your device it is a folder with all the applications and carrier settings in it ,that when you hard reset your device they are installed,and one thing is to find how to make it visible with file explorer and another is to unlock it to be able to copy the files some where else ,!!!

Ideas for B&B version 4.2

I know that 4.1 is only just out & I think it's brilliant. I'm spending every evening checking new posts and playing with my phone like never before. So, before the 4.1 thread becomes the next thread with 1200 posts, I thought I'd start a new thread for ideas for 4.2
Tom - before I found the magic that is B&B I was using Wisbar Advance desktop and an application called innesoft address book which had a great feature that when someone called you, their photo was displayed full screen with their name (see thumbnails) rather than just the standard windows window.
Any chance you could devlelop something similar for 4.2 !!!
Cheers

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I know that 4.1 is only just out & I think it's brilliant. I'm spending every evening checking new posts and playing with my phone like never before. So, before the 4.1 thread becomes the next thread with 1200 posts, I thought I'd start a new thread for ideas for 4.2
Tom - before I found the magic that is B&B I was using Wisbar Advance desktop and an application called innesoft address book which had a great feature that when someone called you, their photo was displayed full screen with their name (see thumbnails) rather than just the standard windows window.
Any chance you could devlelop something similar for 4.2 !!!
Cheers
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Here is something that may hold you over, I am still trying to figure out how to use the caller id without the actual slide to unlock, bit here is something to tide you over, jsut a thought

Have a pretty much full screen keyboard for texting in landscape mode? The text appears at the top?
Is there a way we can assign a button to lock the phone rather than go thruogh the menu?
Cheers

Anybody knows if it is legal to include trial versions of apps in cooked rom?
Was thinking rom with included sktools, english dictionary of some kind, IM+, resco explorer, spb gprs monitor included on rom would save time and space. Apps included would be trial versions and ppl haveing bought them could just enter activation keys/serials, others could buy app if thy liked it.

kakainis said:
Anybody knows if it is legal to include trial versions of apps in cooked rom?
Was thinking rom with included sktools, english dictionary of some kind, IM+, resco explorer, spb gprs monitor included on rom would save time and space. Apps included would be trial versions and ppl haveing bought them could just enter activation keys/serials, others could buy app if thy liked it.
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This would be a waste of time and energy for most, these Roms are made to be efficient, the least amount of space used so that you as an individual can place your desired programs, once a rom is built there is no removing/uninstalling of any apps, hence the reason to not put trial versions into a rom, I use several of the above mentioned, but to "Bloat" a rom with them would be ineffecient. Best thing to do is install on your sd card, keep all your initial install cabs in one folder and use that as your rebuild folder. Cheers.

Juice05 said:
Have a pretty much full screen keyboard for texting in landscape mode? The text appears at the top?
Is there a way we can assign a button to lock the phone rather than go thruogh the menu?
Cheers
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This may assist you in this matter, Cheers.

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Is it not worth remembering that everyone has a different list of killer apps they MUST have on their device?
If Tom & Meschle etc added every app - the rom would only just fit on a 40gb hard disk!!!
To my mind - the idea is that the cooked roms are a basis onto which you install your own apps to make your own device work?
Constanlty asking for new apps to be added to a rom just complicates the issue. Or am I wrong?

something so i can remotly use my desktop via PPC
then im complete

automated network setup like in the O2 WM6 Premium 1.0 WWE rom

Extended timers & alarms application
I'd like to avoid installing SpbTime on each version
Great job!

OK, i agree, rom should be as slim as possible, but why the hell there is cube, psshutXP, PHM regedit/traylaunch, and office mobile on it then?
Could make an ultra lite wersion. (=
P.S. Dont get me wrong, i think 4.1 is great and it is a lot faster than O2. Just throwing around ideas about how to make it better.

with my original post, I was not really asking for a copy of the app, just would like a much bigger photo to pop up with caller id and liked the look of the inesoft one.
Tom - what do you think?

Just trying to make the ROM easier to use, more efficient.
B&B 4.1 is far better than original ROM from this point of view
TouchFlo for example helps to have everything we need with a single finger move..
Phone app is a lot more usable also.
Perhaps also the possibility to customize HTC Home by default, with more options (number of apps in the launcher, ..)

i don't think that is constructive to add as much apps, i can imagine, when it's released, everbody is shouting "this is not good" and "why did you use this app and not the other one"...and so one. I like it clear, not too much apps...but that's my opinion.
If i want it with all apps included then i start (to learn ) cooking my own ROM... IMHO i am very satisfied with the work that Tom is doing for us all. And 4.1 is just released. Enjoy it and let Tom make a break. He is hard working all the time!

Plugins for new version
Alarms extension (SpbTime style)
USB PenDrive emulator (WMstorage style)
Phone call recording (Audio Recorder style)
Thanks for B&B! Great job!

i have a great idea
Why dont we support Tom and all off his hard work and all the other wizards here, and stop complaining or asking for more.
like a bunch of kids in a sweet shop.

Improving File access
What I would like to see is the File Dialog Changer, I don't know who has heard of it but it is very good! Usually when you want to save files or open them in any application you get access to you My Documents folder. Only some smart apps like TCPMP and others have the option to access your entire pda.
File Dialog Changer changes the way you access your files in opening and saving them for every application, it's just 50 KB and you can activate / deactivate it in System Settings.
bbracer16valver said:
something so i can remotly use my desktop via PPC
then im complete
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And about your wish I can only say that there is already Remote Desktop for WM6, I think I've downloaded it in the Wizard forum. Or use PocketVNC, that is the pda version for VNC. I am successfully using that with TightVNC on my computer. I just have to be in range of my WLAN and can turn on my computer by sending a wake on lan signal (not with vnc) and then access my computer through pocketvnc or access the files on my computer.

neilhhardy said:
Why dont we support Tom and all off his hard work and all the other wizards here, and stop complaining or asking for more.
like a bunch of kids in a sweet shop.
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Thread is: Ideas for B&B version 4.2, nothing to do with sweet shop

brainstorming said:
Thread is: Ideas for B&B version 4.2, nothing to do with sweet shop
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I think he had a point though. In the whole thread there is not one message of Tom Codon himself. Did you ask what he thinks? Maybe he has a few ideas of his own? After all, it will be his ROM...

Who says it will be B&B v4.2? Why not 4.3 or 5.0? If there will be another version let him take care of the numbers.

3 (Three) UK Diamond ROM?

If such a ROM exists, i would like to use it to brand my phone to 3 to get the free skype calls, is there such a ROM?

what do you mean to get free skype calls?
You would still have to be on the 3 network.

Anthony2oo5 said:
what do you mean to get free skype calls?
You would still have to be on the 3 network.
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i know. but my current diamond is orange-branded.
i have got hardspl on it, and its unlocked, but i would like the free skype calls as i said, so i would just need the branded ROM as well as a 3 sim.

http://www.htc.com/au/SupportViewNews.aspx?dl_id=451&news_id=24
does anyone know if that ROM has skype on it? also can someone give me the serial number of a 3 Australian HTC Diamond, as the page is asking for it in order to download?

warsng said:
http://www.htc.com/au/SupportViewNews.aspx?dl_id=451&news_id=24
does anyone know if that ROM has skype on it? also can someone give me the serial number of a 3 Australian HTC Diamond, as the page is asking for it in order to download?
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Why not just download the Skype app?
http://www.skype.com/intl/en/download/skype/windowsmobile/

if it was that easy, dont you think i would have done it by now???
to use the free calls offer, you have to use the 3 skype software, not the usual version.

warsng said:
if it was that easy, dont you think i would have done it by now???
to use the free calls offer, you have to use the 3 skype software, not the usual version.
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Sorry but perhaps you should be clearer next time about what you need and why.
You actually don't need a rom you need the software. You might be better off putting this in the general hacking section as I am sure all you need to do is get it from a WinMo based device. Not specifically a diamond.

Hi all,perhaps you may help out here.I have an HTC touch diamond and I'm in South Africa.
Now,I want to flash my rom as well to escape all the problems that are ROM related.I came across this rom:1.94.421.2 wwe,has anyone tried it and saw it is any good for a South African based HTC Diamond p3700.
Thanx

brumhee said:
Sorry but perhaps you should be clearer next time about what you need and why.
You actually don't need a rom you need the software. You might be better off putting this in the general hacking section as I am sure all you need to do is get it from a WinMo based device. Not specifically a diamond.
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you do actually need to download the 3 skype software, they don't let the normal skype software use the free calls things
http://www.three.co.uk/Internet_Services/Call_chat/Call_chat_service?content_aid=1220455597804
the only way to get the 3 skype software at the moment is to either buy a 3 skype phone, or use a ROM that has the software on it already. i also have a kaiser which i have heard has an official UK 3 rom, but don't use it as my primary phone.
3 have said they will be enabling all 3g phones to use their own version skype software later this year though, but i want to start using it now.

nice idea along with me being on 3 - ive scanned plenty and cant seem to find anything
keep reverting back to the Sony if i need it but sim swopping is a nightmare
bookemarked just incase anything comes up

Here you are:
http://www.3g.co.uk/3GForum/showpost.php?p=393278&postcount=46
Iskoot is the skype client 3 uses. Works perfectly for me

When I had my n95 on three to get the skype app all I did was go to planet3 on the phone and download skype on that. Im sure that could be done with windows mobile

Pabster said:
Here you are:
http://www.3g.co.uk/3GForum/showpost.php?p=393278&postcount=46
Iskoot is the skype client 3 uses. Works perfectly for me
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awesome find dude, many many thanks. are you able to use the free calls offer on this too?

warsng said:
awesome find dude, many many thanks. are you able to use the free calls offer on this too?
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Yeah it works for the free calls. I left it running on a skype call for half an hour and my voice minutes remained the same.
I'm not sure if there's a 3 windows live messenger for windows mobile. Someone got a java version working but it's a little low res for the diamond. Works great nonetheless.
http://www.modaco.com/content/kaiser-kaiser-modaco-com/263056/kaiser-on-3-network/#entry873798
Go down to post #9.

Pabster said:
Yeah it works for the free calls. I left it running on a skype call for half an hour and my voice minutes remained the same.
I'm not sure if there's a 3 windows live messenger for windows mobile. Someone got a java version working but it's a little low res for the diamond. Works great nonetheless.
http://www.modaco.com/content/kaiser-kaiser-modaco-com/263056/kaiser-on-3-network/#entry873798
Go down to post #9.
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nice one mate, it does indeed work. i feel like sending you actual money to show my gratitude
edit: ****, i spoke a bit soon there, the stupid iskoot is not persisting my changes to the registry, therefore it is no longer working, despite my repeated attempts to re-modify the registry after uninstalling and re-installing. argh!

warsng said:
nice one mate, it does indeed work. i feel like sending you actual money to show my gratitude
edit: ****, i spoke a bit soon there, the stupid iskoot is not persisting my changes to the registry, therefore it is no longer working, despite my repeated attempts to re-modify the registry after uninstalling and re-installing. argh!
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Thats strange, maybe it could be down to the rom youre using. Ive tried it on several roms and it worked fine.
The only thing I do is change BackupHost, CallURL, DefaultSKHost and BaseURL to http://mobile.three.co.uk/948, and run the program. That guide doesnt tell you to change 'BaseURL' which could be the problem. Do you change the phone number in the registry or anything else?

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Thats strange, maybe it could be down to the rom youre using. Ive tried it on several roms and it worked fine.
The only thing I do is change BackupHost, CallURL, DefaultSKHost and BaseURL to http://mobile.three.co.uk/948, and run the program. That guide doesnt tell you to change 'BaseURL' which could be the problem. Do you change the phone number in the registry or anything else?
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i tried it on the reconstructed 3 rom which was probably a bad idea, as the rom is a bit old now. i did change all those values to http://mobile.three.co.uk/948
i didnt change the phone number though, am i supposed to?
anyway i am off sick from work, so gonna try out a few different roms
annoying thing is, it did actually work. but when i exited, it just reverted the settings back to the defaults.
btw, which roms have u tried it on?
edit: yesssss, got it working again, using shifus latest rom.

warsng said:
i tried it on the reconstructed 3 rom which was probably a bad idea, as the rom is a bit old now. i did change all those values to http://mobile.three.co.uk/948
i didnt change the phone number though, am i supposed to?
anyway i am off sick from work, so gonna try out a few different roms
annoying thing is, it did actually work. but when i exited, it just reverted the settings back to the defaults.
btw, which roms have u tried it on?
edit: yesssss, got it working again, using shifus latest rom.
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Thats great that its working now. The link I provided had a different number to the one that came up in my registry so I think 3 changed it, therefore it wouldve been a bad idea to change the number in your registry.
I tried it on Nataly 2.4, Shaks 4.20 and several Energyroms. I think some roms revert the registry back to default after soft resets.

just as an aside, i recently bought a skypephone (S2), this is before i found out i could use iskoot on any WM6 phone.
the version on the S2 is 2.9.18. it doesn't appear to be a java app, but the voice quality is a lot lower than what i get on Windows XP Skype.
is the latest WM Iskoot version the 1.1 version? has anyone tried signing up through their form to see if they have updated it at all? i might give that a try...
3 have stated on their website that they will soon make the skype software available to all 3g users. i'm guessing they are going to do this using java, as how else would they be able to support the myriad phones OSes out there?
edit: looks like 1.1 is the latest....

Android - Wing Linux 0.4pre4 is out

Hi,
For those interested in the effort to port Android to the Excalibur, wing-linux android 0.4pre4 has been released with support for the Excalibur. Installation should be pretty easy (must install to the micro SD card).
For details and download: http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/wing-linux/wiki
This project is looking for more developers, so you're welcome to join.
Please Note: to reset your device after using android you'll have to take out the battery. As mentioned, the software does not install to the phone's ROM, so it's nice and safe no flashing!
Biggest issue is that sound doesn't work yet. GSM works if your SIM card has no pin. For information on setting up GPRS, please see the wing-linux forum.
Please test all you can, and report back either here, or even better at the wing-linux forum.
Cheers,
Update:
To fix the problem that the console is rotated the wrong way, after installing, go to the linux folder on the SD card and edit the "default.txt". In the CMDLINE variable, remove "fbcon=rotate:3".
For those of you that want a normal linux console, i.e. so Android doesnt start automatically, change the "4" on the end of this line to a "3" (this is the runlevel)

help
Can you hel me? I want to know if i can to install this so on my excalibur telcel (mexico) and how can i install it?
thanks

uccellino said:
Hi,
For those interested in the effort to port Android to the Excalibur, wing-linux android 0.4pre4 has been released with support for the Excalibur. Installation should be pretty easy (must install to the micro SD card).
For details and download: http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/wing-linux/wiki
This project is looking for more developers, so you're welcome to join.
Please Note: to reset your device after using android you'll have to take out the battery. As mentioned, the software does not install to the phone's ROM, so it's nice and safe no flashing!
Biggest issue is that sound doesn't work yet. GSM works if your SIM card has no pin. For information on setting up GPRS, please see the wing-linux forum.
Please test all you can, and report back either here, or even better at the wing-linux forum.
Cheers,
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Hey great news......
Good going ..........
Hats off to all the geniuses on this project,
and a special thanks to UCCELLINO to get it on our beloved DASH

Hey Just one question ,
Is it the same cab for all the models ?

Tested
Tested!
And...
Success!
It works...
Since it is nowhere near finished ill mention only the cool things...
D-pad works and all of the other buttons too... (qwerty including)
Amazingly good integration for non touch screen phone... (I could almost imagine using it)
I would played bit more with it but to my biggest disappointment
THE SCREEN IS INTERLACED AND FLASHING(flickering) ALL THE TIME
Tested on MDA Mail
I almost forget: Thanks to all the involved geniuses...
I still can't believe it works, simply amazing

woohoo!!!!!!!

cant get it to start it fails and takes me to command prompt

Anyone has screenshot of this new Wing Linux?

Hi,
Thank you for doing this testing... the interlaced screen issue does not happen on my device... maybe there really are different models. I will check this out - it is probably a problem with screen timings. If you want to help, check out the Excalibur forum on the wing-linux forum and try another device profile.... Once I know what other device worked better for you, I can try and support it better within the Excalibur profile.
For other people: there is one main cab to install and then another smaller one to set it up for the Excalibur.
Once again, thank you to all for the help in testing! Next step is working audio and then we can really be on our way
istosevski said:
Tested!
And...
Success!
It works...
Since it is nowhere near finished ill mention only the cool things...
D-pad works and all of the other buttons too... (qwerty including)
Amazingly good integration for non touch screen phone... (I could almost imagine using it)
I would played bit more with it but to my biggest disappointment
THE SCREEN IS INTERLACED AND FLASHING(flickering) ALL THE TIME
Tested on MDA Mail
I almost forget: Thanks to all the involved geniuses...
I still can't believe it works, simply amazing
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What process did you go through exactly... this may be a bug can you give me any more info?
Just some points:
it must install to the micro SD, which needs atleast 250+ MB free available
you must install two cabs, the main one and then a little one for the Excalibur
in theory, if you do get to a command prompt, you can log in and use linux to start android.
Login is as follows:
username: root
password: wing
trinidad716 said:
cant get it to start it fails and takes me to command prompt
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Sorry, no screenshots as yet. But it runs Android Cupcake, and pretty fast too (for an old phone). Really, this project is going somewhere, and Android is very usable on the device with such a great keyboard.
Perhaps a very techy person could make a little video?
All you need is an micro SD card, may be 30minutes and being prepared to pull your battery when you're done...
If you're a linux programmer, that'd be cool too.. I desperately need info on how to reset the Excalibur in software
Cheers
10507 said:
Anyone has screenshot of this new Wing Linux?
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uccellino said:
What process did you go through exactly... this may be a bug can you give me any more info?
Just some points:
it must install to the micro SD, which needs atleast 250+ MB free available
you must install two cabs, the main one and then a little one for the Excalibur
in theory, if you do get to a command prompt, you can log in and use linux to start android.
Login is as follows:
username: root
password: wing
Type "/android.sh" to start manually (from memory)
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Which is the main one....i found the small one for excalibur...

This is how it looks like on my MDA Mail
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vk3myrxh-5g

is functional??? thanks in advance!!

rafaelgsm said:
is functional??? thanks in advance!!
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tested by me... crashes when incoming call... best than anothers versions... progress is notorious , thanks in advance

I cant get it to work, I installed both cabs to my card and when I launch it all I get is different colors shifting on the screen :S

HUGE progress!

How long did it take you guys on first boot?

hello geniuses,
Does any one have an idea abt how to feed in the APN in this version of android, so that we can have a feel of the browser.
Please Help....

wow great work! the screen is flickering and is interlaced mode, but it's pretty nice and works! I could not make a call, but sent sms from messaging. keep going!