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hey guys, this question is for tmobile users. ive called tmobile, and nobody knows what theyre talking about. im trying to figure out the difference between the 5.99 tzones plan and the 29.99 total internet package. i guess i just wanna figure out what i can do with the 5.99 plan. thanks
ps. anybody hear when tmobile is gonna release the wm6 update? ive been hearing that wm6 is also gonna have office mobile, anybody hear this? thanks
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tmobile is in the process of locking down the 5.99 plan so depending on where you live the results may very. some are getting unlimite internet with NO plan whatsoever and others are getting full internet with the 5.99 plan but still no proxy.
its SUPPOSED to work like this: the 5.99 plan allows wap access to mobile wap sites, email and sms. The proxy currently allows http browsing and limited streams/downloads but this may be locked down at some time if they can ever figure out how to allow email and wap but not http. be aware that java apps like opera mini as well as msn messenger/mail will NOT work with the proxy.
there is an option to the total internet plan. you can sign up for the blackberry plan for 19.99 which gives unlimited access but does not include tmobile email or hotspots. you can however set up blackberry connect which i have no experience with but some here seem to like it.
go to howardforums.com for the best info on tmobile plans.
thanks, chris
they wont tell you the proxy. just order it and don't say that you have a smartphone. the 5.99$ plan is great. the settings are all over the internet.
they always want to argue with you that this is not for pocket pc and smartphone users. but who cares.
They shut me down and I called and complained. I was told that I would have to use their $29.99 plan for internet, and the Dash was incompatible with T-Zones ($5.99) internet plan. I told them when I bought the phone the salesman signed me up for T-Zones, and if the Dash didn't support it why was there a T-Zone button on the Dash? They turned me back on to the $5.99 plan. I get to every site I need to get to with T-Zones. If they try and shut you down complain, and tell them that the Dash has a dedicated T-Zone button on it right next to the camera and email button.
I'm using the same setup with my Treo 680. I just swap out my Dash's SIM card and put it in my Treo. I go to preferences>network>and select T-Zones and it connects. I can surf, and send email.
In the states, I had to upgrade to the $29.95 plan. It includes the $5.99 plan, plus gives me hotspots for use with my laptop when I travel. It's been worth it. And allows me to use the phone as an ISP modem as a last resort. I did need to add the proxy for T-Zones to work properly.
The problem is T-Mobile is turing off T-Zones on Dash owners, it has nothing to do with their wifi hot spot connections. They want to charge $29.99 to use their EDGE network unlimited. They can't get away with this because they put a T-Zone button on the Dash, therefore allowing Dash customers to get the $5.99 plan T-Zone plan. They turned me right back on when I told them that they have a T-Zone button on the phone, it's not my problem they've just decided that Dash customers should pay $29.99 for their slow EDGE network. That little pink t-zone button on the Dash is biting them in the @$$. They've got to honor the $5.99 price.
There's a lot of misinformation here... here's how it is:
The $5.99 T-Zones plan is very limited. You get weather updates, TMobile account info, movie showtimes, news headlines and a few other similar offerings. You don't get email, or unlimited browsing. Very basic and only works with the WAP browser on the Dash, not IE.
For quite some time, if you had T-Zones, you could set up IE with the T-Zones proxy info and get unlimited browsing without upgrading your plan. I could also access my Exchange email using the email application on my phone. It was great when it worked for me, but at some point it stopped -- I called customer support and the guy explained that it wasn't supposed to work this way and they were in the process of upgrading their systems to enforce the T-Zones level of service, and that I had to upgrade to the Total Internet package. Some users are still able to utilize the T-Zones proxy settings for this, but eventually it won't be possible for anyone.
The Total Access is over-priced. You have to subscribe to the HotSpot service to get Internet access, priced separately but only available as a bundle. I don't like it as I never use the HotSpot (Starbucks/FedEx/Kinkos WiFi) service but have to pay for it to get internet. That is until recently -- a user posted that if you go to your settings at the TMobile web site, change your phone type to a Blackberry, and then add the Internet plan priced at $20. I did this and it works, without any proxy settings, but as with the TZones thing, who knows for how long.
chaznet said:
There's a lot of misinformation here... here's how it is:
The $5.99 T-Zones plan is very limited. You get weather updates, TMobile account info, movie showtimes, news headlines and a few other similar offerings. You don't get email, or unlimited browsing. Very basic and only works with the WAP browser on the Dash, not IE.
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thats crap dude. they just tell this to you. don't tell them that you have the dash. just order t-zones and configure it manually. after that everything http based works great. socket transfers are blocked. thats right. but who cares...
I purchased my Dash last month and my salesman told me I only needed the Blackberry plan (19.99/mo) for unlimited Internet access (the 29.99 total access plan was needed for push e-mail only). I did have an opportunity to talk with Tmo customer support and they, as my salesman warned, told me I had the wrong plan, that my phone was not compatible with the Blackberry service but when I was firm about not needing their total-access package I was left alone. I think the cost of the package they push depends on the cost and capabilities of the phone your purchased, not what is actually needed for Internet access.
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thats crap dude. they just tell this to you. don't tell them that you have the dash. just order t-zones and configure it manually. after that everything http based works great. socket transfers are blocked. thats right. but who cares...
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Totally agree, I get every web page I need and all my email using the T-Zone plan. They're just trying to get more $$ out of us. It works, just configure it and you're good to go.
Um... sorry 'dude', it's the way it is. If it's working for you, great, it won't forever.
snudel said:
thats crap dude. they just tell this to you. don't tell them that you have the dash. just order t-zones and configure it manually. after that everything http based works great. socket transfers are blocked. thats right. but who cares...
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Did the guy tell you it wouldn't work with push email? It works fine for me with the blackberry plan.
stevemw said:
I purchased my Dash last month and my salesman told me I only needed the Blackberry plan (19.99/mo) for unlimited Internet access (the 29.99 total access plan was needed for push e-mail only). I did have an opportunity to talk with Tmo customer support and they, as my salesman warned, told me I had the wrong plan, that my phone was not compatible with the Blackberry service but when I was firm about not needing their total-access package I was left alone. I think the cost of the package they push depends on the cost and capabilities of the phone your purchased, not what is actually needed for Internet access.
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I did previsously have it configured with TZones (read the post) and it worked -- then it stopped and can no longer be configured with the TZones proxy settings.
jeg815 said:
Totally agree, I get every web page I need and all my email using the T-Zone plan. They're just trying to get more $$ out of us. It works, just configure it and you're good to go.
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you need to call T-Mobile, I bet they shut you down. They did the same thing to me. They gave me BS that their servers did updates and found Dash owners were getting internet, and they shouldn't be. They said they had to turn it off. I said that I was sold a Dash with T-ZONE and it worked fine up until that point, there's a reason why there's a T-Zone button on the Dash. They probably turned u off, tell them to turn you back on.
This happended before I got my Dash, I had the SDA at the time. They actually offer TZones with the Dash, it works with the WAP browser (the one that comes up when you push the TZones button) but not IE.
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you need to call T-Mobile, I bet they shut you down. They did the same thing to me. They gave me BS that their servers did updates and found Dash owners were getting internet, and they shouldn't be. They said they had to turn it off. I said that I was sold a Dash with T-ZONE and it worked fine up until that point, there's a reason why there's a T-Zone button on the Dash. They probably turned u off, tell them to turn you back on.
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lafester said:
tmobile is in the process of locking down the 5.99 plan so depending on where you live the results may very. some are getting unlimite internet with NO plan whatsoever and others are getting full internet with the 5.99 plan but still no proxy.
its SUPPOSED to work like this: the 5.99 plan allows wap access to mobile wap sites, email and sms. The proxy currently allows http browsing and limited streams/downloads but this may be locked down at some time if they can ever figure out how to allow email and wap but not http. be aware that java apps like opera mini as well as msn messenger/mail will NOT work with the proxy.
there is an option to the total internet plan. you can sign up for the blackberry plan for 19.99 which gives unlimited access but does not include tmobile email or hotspots. you can however set up blackberry connect which i have no experience with but some here seem to like it.
go to howardforums.com for the best info on tmobile plans.
thanks, chris
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OK! I am sorry to say to you that this is incorrect
I JUST yesterday flashed to kavana rom...I had to play with the internet settings for awhile...but ALL my JAVA apps do work (btw I LOVE Opera Mini, I'm new to it) Gmail APP works...pocket IE works, EMAIL works (which was the *****y one to get working for me) everything internet related works...I can download files and the whole shabang...and I am on the $5.99 plan
here is a tutorial of how to get your internet working (I did this tutorial step-by-step and I can confirm it works 100%)
Using the web with just the $5.99 plan
Credit for the below information goes to the members of Howardforums.com
Unlimited internet with the $5.99 T-MobileWeb service
The $29.99/month T-Mobile Total Internet package is not required to have unlimited internet access on the Dash, instead the $5.99 T-MobileWeb service is all you need. Note the following limitations to the T-MobileWeb internet service:
1. The internet applications on your device will need to have an option to specify a connection to a proxy server, if it doesn't have this option then the application most likely will not be able to access the internet.
2. The following applications will not work over T-MobileWeb: MSN Messenger, Agile Messenger (without the proxy option), some streaming media, Hotmail, Pocket MSN, and Java applications.
To setup the internet connection over T-MobileWeb follow these instructions:
1. Add the $5.99 T-MobileWeb service to your current voice plan (it may take up to 72 hours to activate, but typically takes less than 24 hours).
2. Follow the below instructions to setup the Dash:
1. Add the T-MobileWeb (T-Zones) Proxy Connection
Start Menu -> Settings -> Connections -> Proxy -> Menu -> Add
Description: T-Zones Proxy
Connects from: Wap Network
Connects to: The Internet
Proxy (name : port): 216.155.165.50:8080
Type: HTTP
User name: <blank>
Password: <blank>
Press Done.
2. Configure the Existing Data Connection
Start Menu -> Settings -> Connections -> GPRS -> T-Mobile Data -> Menu -> Edit
Connects to: WAP Network
Access point: wap.voicestream.com
User name: <blank>
Password: <blank>
Primary DNS: 0.0.0.0
Secondary DNS: 0.0.0.0
IP address: <blank>
Press Done.
3. Configure Pocket Internet Explorer
Start Menu -> Internet Explorer -> Menu -> Tools -> Options -> Connections
Uncheck "Automatically detect settings".
Select Network: The Internet (Must be set to "The Internet" to work over WiFi. Try "WAP Network" if you're having trouble over the EDGE/GPRS connection)
Press Done.
4. Configure Messaging (follow these steps for POP or IMAP email accounts that have been manually setup)
Start Menu -> Messaging -> Highlight your email account -> Menu -> Settings -> Press Next twice
Select Network: WAP Network
Press Next three times then Finish.
The following applies to email on WM6:
In Settings/Connections/GPRS/T-Mobile Data: Tmobile Data
Connects to: Wap Network
Access Point: wap.voicestream.com
AND add another GPRS option:
T-Mobile Data2
Connects to: Work
Access Point: wap.voicestream.com
Then create TWO Proxies:
Settings/Connections/Proxy
First Proxy:
Name:Tzones Proxy
Connects from: WAP Network
Connects to: The Internet
Proxy: 216.155.165.50:8080
Type: HTTP
Second Proxy:
Name Tzones Proxy2
Connects from: Work
Connects to: The Internet
Proxy: 216.155.165.50:8080
Type: HTTP
In connections, click menu, then advance and set ALL connections to AUTOMATIC
To get the Exchange Server working:
(Exchange Server settings)
Options/Advanced
Connection: Internet
To get Pop mail accounts working:
(This will need to be done for each account you have)
Options/Account settings/Advanced Server Settings
Network Connection: Work
NOTE! The option to select which way to connect isnt available until you finish creating the POP account (go back in and change to: Work)
To get IE working:
(In IE)Menu/Tools/Options/Connections
Check "Automatically Detect Settings"
Select Network: WAP Network
Thanks for posting those settings. Since upgrading my Dash to Windows Mobile 6.1 I could no longer use the internet using the T-Zones plan (I could send and receive email only). With the above settings I can use the internet and email, thanks again for posting these!!
FYI there is no need for the $29.99 plan. I have a $19.99 unlimited internet plan that allows me to do everything, and INCLUDES hotspot access. Maybe they just messed up on mine, but I have no problems with it, unlimited internet and push email (but not through tmobile email servers -- i have my own).
All you guys need is the total internet add-on for 19.99 and just set up the vpn or run the automatic wizard setting for tmobile.
Unlimited internet with the $5.99 T-MobileWeb service
The $19.99/month T-Mobile Total Internet package is not required to have unlimited internet access on the Dash, instead the $5.99 T-MobileWeb service is all you need. Note the following limitations to the T-MobileWeb internet service:
1. The internet applications on your device will need to have an option to specify a connection to a proxy server, if it doesn't have this option then the application most likely will not be able to access the internet.
2. The following applications will not work over T-MobileWeb: MSN Messenger, Agile Messenger (without the proxy option), some streaming media, Hotmail, Pocket MSN, and Java applications.
To setup the internet connection over T-MobileWeb follow these instructions:
1. Add the $5.99 T-MobileWeb service to your current voice plan (it may take up to 72 hours to activate, but typically takes less than 24 hours).
2. Follow the below instructions to setup the Dash:
USE THIS SITE AND SCROLL TO THE BOTTOM AND IT EXPLAINS TO YOU HOW TO SET THIS ALL UP...
http://dashapps.googlepages.com/
wow this is new ;P
It's not really new. You actually can't access it with the latest Tmobile ROM for the Dash (which includes WM6). They have disabled it. You USED to be able to access the web with the old ROM but they disabled it for the most recent one. I pay the $20 a month, and I use it quite a bit, but I also have a laptop and connect to TMobile hot spots pretty regularly as well.
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It's not really new. You actually can't access it with the latest Tmobile ROM for the Dash (which includes WM6). They have disabled it. You USED to be able to access the web with the old ROM but they disabled it for the most recent one. I pay the $20 a month, and I use it quite a bit, but I also have a laptop and connect to TMobile hot spots pretty regularly as well.
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Funny, I use WM6, pay $5.99/month and I can still use PIE and get Gmail through Edge. Glad you're utilizing the $20/month plan to its fullest, but I'll take the $168/yr savings.
Oh This works... I use it on my WM6 all the time, and I do not pay 20 bucks a month but rather 5.99... HAHA
saying its disabled might be some jive from someone that works for t mobile or is some weird corprate loyalist fan boy maybe. cause i have wm6 and the 5.99 trick is still solid
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saying its disabled might be some jive from someone that works for t mobile or is some weird corprate loyalist fan boy maybe. cause i have wm6 and the 5.99 trick is still solid
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Just what I was thinking.
yeah, it works like a charm for me...and there is nothing that T-Mobile can do for it because I used to work for T-Mobile for about 5 years now...
Thank you it work like a charm
I just receive the "The remote party has ended the Connection". It was working fine yesterday and I've also have the 5.99 plan already. I tried to google but none of the solution seems to help me. I've tried to hard reset, turn off /on phone in com manager. Recheck my proxy settings. Internet explorer connection change to "internet, and WAP network" nothing seems help....
NVM I just flash my rom all over again and now it seems to working like normal. Still if the the remote party has ended the connection come up again what shall i do? is there a fix for it.
Is there another Internet browser that work w/ the proxy settings? I've been using IE but notice its very sluggish and slow. I heard Opera and thunderhawk 2.0 is super fast comparing to IE. I've tried Opera but there was no setting for it to connect to the proxy......
yea i dont think it works with the new ver of the dash(rom)1.22.531.6 cuz i had it working on my previous dash before it got stolen now i cant get it work on this dash my t zones have limited mobile web access and when i try to use IE to access a website it says u dont have access to the site can anyone help me
is there any program like AIM that works for this $5.99 plan?.. I'd really like to sign in.. :-/
Actually it works on WM5, and when you upgrade to WM6, the settings have to be entered just slightly different for everything to work...
Here are the main settings for WM6:
T-mo Data 1
to : Wap
Access:
wap.voicestream.com
T-mo Data 2: Work
Access:
wap.voicestream.com
Proxy 1:
from: wap
to: internet
proxy: 216.155.165.50:8080
type: http
Proxy 2:
from: work
to: internet
proxy: 216.155.165.50:8080
type: http
Now for your email to work and internet browser, you may have to go into the email app and the Browser to specify the data source..(experiment a little)..but I gurantee this works on WM6 and the $6/mth t-mobile internet.
As you can see there is a proxy server involved so some apps like AIM or WIndows Live might not work. But I know it works for web browsing, pop email, Outlook email (yes even the push email), and most stuff in general.
By the way, if you don't already have the t-zones, it's best to have your sim card in a non-smartphone and nothing with qwerty or blackberry, because technically it is not avilable foe the dash and etc..So having the sim card in like a RAZR and used it a few times, then login to my t-mobile, add the $6/mth internet, will be active in 24 hrs. and use the above settings.
this still works like a charm for me...
Does anyone has unlimited access to Web, emails with T-Mobile Web $5.99 hacked working properly?
Please help, I can't access to Internet
Adavid
Timely question as I have been wrestling with the very same issue for the past 36 hours.
My phone also has the RW 6.1 ROM and I activated T-Zones a day and a half ago. I've followed the hack instructions on "dashapps" to the letter, booted and rebooted several times, yet no internet. I either get a "$MESSAGE$..." or "you cannot access.." message when I try to connect.
I read on another HTC (non-Excalibur) board that T-Mobile has closed this loophole: can anyone definitively verify? There's a member here -- JDOGG*** something that says he works for TMo, so maybe he knows for sure.
I hate to be the noob that asks the same question that's been answered a dozen times, but... I've scoured this board and followed all the hack instructions EXACTLY -- several times -- and still no luck, so I'm at a loss for solutions.
Any and all guidance is genuinely appreciated. Thank you.
i've had the $5.99 working for quite some time working with:
autosync/exchange
iris browser/pocket IE
IM+ (IM program)
VNC viewer
also, i'm using 6.1 & followed the dashapps hack w/ no issues. not sure what else to tell you guys.
Yes, the $5.99 proxy hack doesn't work in some regions (usually those with the highest data traffic.) For everyone else, it works perfectly, with the exception of a few apps that aren't proxy aware.
A related question which may help solve my issue:
Within "Connections" there are two GPRS choices: #5, "GPRS Settings" and #6, "GPRS". For "GPRS Settings" I have the option of authenticating using PAP or CHAP: which do I use?
Also, is there a preferred setting for "Disconnect GPRS When Dropped"? (Preferred in the sense that it may effect my ability to connect to the internet.)
Thanks again.
Minnesinger said:
A related question which may help solve my issue:
Within "Connections" there are two GPRS choices: #5, "GPRS Settings" and #6, "GPRS". For "GPRS Settings" I have the option of authenticating using PAP or CHAP: which do I use?
Also, is there a preferred setting for "Disconnect GPRS When Dropped"? (Preferred in the sense that it may effect my ability to connect to the internet.)
Thanks again.
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Just double checked my settings for you. I have it listed as CHAP, Hold Connection and checked GPRS Auto Attach. GPRS Auto Detach is not checked. Hope that helps, in St. Paul the settings work just fine.
hello can anybody confirm if they're in Miami, FL. and this hack works,
thanks in advance
i live in ft. lauderdale pretty close to miami and it works fine.
$5.99 Setting for WM6.1.....URGENT
ralph1o1 cal you write it down your phone set up?
I called T-mobile Yesterday to do the setting and the Lady toll me that I have to get the $19.99 plan to get access with WM6.1, I'm pretty sure a few peoples of "T-mobile support" doesn't have a idea when you change OS doesn't come with the original phone.
If you can bring me the setting I appreciated.
By the way..I went back to WM6 to try and I had access to T-Zones thru "winwap" but I didn't have the $5.99 plan to try it.
adavid
I Love Wm6.1 And I Don't Want Go Back.............
Please Help To Set Up Internet With $5.99 Plan
:d
My GPRS is set to PAP, but the other settings mentioned are the same. Here are my settings:
Under GPRS, I have three connections:
The first and third are labeled T-Mobile Data and T-Mobile WModem Link and are both setup the same:
Connects to: WAP Network
Access Point: wap.voicestream.com
Other settings are blank, except for the DNS entries are all 0.0.0.0.
The second connection is labeled T-Mobile MMS:
Connects to: Work
Access Point: wap.voicestream.com
Other settings are blank, except for the DNS entries are all 0.0.0.0.
Now onto the proxies...I have two setup:
Tzones Proxy:
Connects from: WAP Network
Connects to: The Internet
Proxy: 216.155.165.50:8080
Type: HTTP
Username and Password are both blank.
Tzones Proxy2:
Connects from: Work
Connects to: The Internet
Proxy: 216.155.165.50:8080
Type: HTTP
Username and Password are both blank.
I live in Ohio and it works all over the state and Michigan, if that matters at all.
Let us know if these settings work for you.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Excalibur_WM61tzones
thats what my settings are and it works for me and also make sure you have the 5.99 on your plan lol.
adavid said:
ralph1o1 cal you write it down your phone set up?
I called T-mobile Yesterday to do the setting and the Lady toll me that I have to get the $19.99 plan to get access with WM6.1, I'm pretty sure a few peoples of "T-mobile support" doesn't have a idea when you change OS doesn't come with the original phone.
If you can bring me the setting I appreciated.
By the way..I went back to WM6 to try and I had access to T-Zones thru "winwap" but I didn't have the $5.99 plan to try it.
adavid
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let me get this straight...you put a cooked copy of 6.1 on your phone....you then call tmobile and tell them that your new unsupported cooked rom wont let you access the whole net on the 5.99 hack plan like the wm6 did.
you do realize that the whole concept of what we are doing here has totally escaped you.
Yah just follow the instructions below and you should be able to access it.
Thanks guyz....
Thanks to you gauyz....jdoggraz and unasari1
I will try to setting on the phone.
I really wants to thanks to "ralph1o1".....
Your link works buddy...
Thanks
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Your link works buddy...
Thanks
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No problem anytime man.
do you know if goolge maps and the newly updated Live Search work with this hack, thanks
Other apps that might work
also Opera Mobile and Elecont Weather
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also Opera Mobile and Elecont Weather
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opera mini works great with this plan
So, let's say that I managed to get the proxy settings to make my Dash go wap without the data plan, am I gonna get caught? As in, do they do checks and is it easy to spot me? If so what happens? Am I in trouble? Thank you.
Well might as well tell you now. I changed my proxy settings to this proxy I found on a site, thing WORKED! But only for about 30 minutes. When I tried again, it didnt work and IE only had the page showing that I have to get the data plan.
Hey everyone,
I have been a searching and searching for new ways to get my fully unlimited 4G mobile internet through HotSpot, and up until 6 months ago, the changing of APN setting in "Mobile Networks" from epc.tmobile.com (Regular) to fast.tmobile.com (LTE) had worked and adding dun to the authentication types, but in the last week the HotSpot Block screen popped up again and I am now forced to revert to using user-agents to use the unlimited mobile internet I paid highly for, through my phone's HotSpot, like I had to before. Is there someone who knows a new way to get around this, without rooting my phone or paying for an app on Google Play?!
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Hey everyone,
I have been a searching and searching for new ways to get my fully unlimited 4G mobile internet through HotSpot, and up until 6 months ago, the changing of APN setting in "Mobile Networks" from epc.tmobile.com (Regular) to fast.tmobile.com (LTE) had worked and adding dun to the authentication types, but in the last week the HotSpot Block screen popped up again and I am now forced to revert to using user-agents to use the unlimited mobile internet I paid highly for, through my phone's HotSpot, like I had to before. Is there someone who knows a new way to get around this, without rooting my phone or paying for an app on Google Play?!
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The "APN" dun method is not working anymore for me either, I configured the settings correctly in the AP and got past the 5GB threshold but was only able to use my stock hotspot unlimited for one day up until now it has stopped working and reverted back to the upsell screen page with no fix has T-Mobile finally figured it out and cracked down or something? I don't want to root my phone! I want another method for none rooted users!!! Someone please help.